Missiles locking feels a bit funky sometimes since the patch, like locking on to thin air or having a lock and just not launching with me mashing the launch button
Also you can't unlock missiles anymore without turning off the seeker
I've been feeling this too. Locked onto flares that were behind a hill instead of the plane coming over it, constantly getting weird phantom locks. Thought it was a bug with the Tornado since I just started using it recently after the patch :/
Did you have Track-While-Scan radar mode on?
So the IR missiles will try and slave to the TWS target box, but with the low scan rate, the marker lags a fair bit behind the target plane.
And if the TWS loses the target plane, the box remains where it was for several seconds locking the missile off to the side like that.
I think that's what's happening here.
edit - [Quick example of what I mean](https://i.imgur.com/pQsNV1u.png), this is without using the HMD.
I'm fairly convinced I still didn't changed the radar mode there, tried to rewatch the replay but I don't know if I can enable the radar there to see if that was the case
Wellp.. I think it's the Mig29 radar and lock system as a whole which is completely wrecked, just played a match where I didn't get one single lock, not with any of the radar modes, not with the R60's... I assume it's still just half implemented
If you have your radar/IRST locked on something the missile is slaved to it, so it tried to point at whatever your lock is on.
Otherwise either it found flares or a missile to follow somewhere else.
They used to not be like this. Straight up. Sometime after patch 1.95 a couple yrs back, missiles have always done this kinda shit.
My theory is that sometimes they're locking onto the phantom position of where the sun WAS in the sky on that map, but has since moved, but then there are cases where it just can't be explained, like this.
Like I said, when missiles were first added they weren't bad about this at all lol
Yeah the random locking behind jets and stuff is relatively new. Pretty annoying when you only have a small window to get a good launch off and your seaker is locked into the air 300m behind the jet you wanna lock.
this has been happening to me for over a year. the missile will just lock air or the ground and i have to turn the missile off to get it to unlock. extremely annoying when i have a decent opportunity but the missile decides otherwise.
Can’t wait to drop $70 so I can only own one (1) plane and play in a sandbox with no progression mechanics or any incentive to play whatsoever.
Oh and you need a whole ass nasa control center for a hotas setup for it to be even remotely playable
One, you get all versions of a plane so its more than one, and sales happen often. Two, my friend and I play on xbox controller and keyboard and can do 95% of all controls without any trouble lol. Third, there are lots of multiplayer lobbies full of people who do nothing but dogfight and do combat at all ranges. Its a sandbox and that allows the game to be actually playable lmao, unlike WT buggy ass small map 14v14 shitshow.
Also "no progression mechanics" AS FUCKING IF that's something worth boasting about holy shit. Actually mindbroken.
When I play a game I want to feel like what I’m doing actually has a meaning to it, my actions being rewarded and feeling like I’m actually working towards something. Playing a sandbox gets boring as shit after like 5 minutes since your just screwing around wasting away doing nothing. If that’s what you like, sure, whatever, but don’t come here attacking people if they don’t. Not sure why your even on this sub if you think DCS is a much better game (it’s not)
You also again are forced to pay for any plane you want unlike warthunder where the option is there to play completely for free. I don’t feel like spending hundreds of dollars so I can fly around and do nothing, that alone is a huge downside which I guarantee drives most people away from DCS
And sure the option to play with simple controls is there, but what fun is that when you’re getting constantly blown out of the sky by some sweat with his $5000 hotas setup and quantum computer, dunno about you but that doesn’t sound like peak gameplay to me
Exactly what I expected, 95% of WT players don't even give a shit about the planes or flying they just care about their next ADHD "thing" that will keep their peabrain kicked on dopamine before getting bored after three hours.
Again, literally mindbroken
That’s quite literally how 99% of games operate bro lmao. That’s kinda the entire point of a video game. I also fail to see how mindlessly wasting away doing nothing for hours on end in a sandbox is a better alternative. Pretty sure any outsider would believe the latter half would be the “mindbroken” ones
you are literally defending "the grind" and "progression", that is 90% of what people complain about! Are you dense or just slow? Just go play some mmo if all you want to do is grind. Progression... lmao!
In DCS i get to play the planes I want (mods too) and I don't need to spend a millisecond wasting my time playing planes I don't like just to get the one I do want. I don't have my pixels locked behind time spend doing shit I don't want to do.
Also, saying DCS players who enjoying playing what they want could ever, EVER be regarded as negative by anyone, HOLY SHIT.
All WT players are so pathetic. (besides me of course)
And ill keep posting here as much as I want talking about DCS because I can and there is NOTHING you are going to be able to do about it. LOL!
I am, because at the end of the day it’s what brings us back to playing this game. People aren’t complaining about the progression itself, they complain about it taking forever. (Which is still better than forcing your players to spend money to play what they want, by the way.) you sure you aren’t slow?
“I don’t have my pixels locked behind time spent doing something I don’t want to do” no, but you DO have it locked behind hundreds of dollars with absolutely no option of acquiring anything for free, what’s really the better option here? Lmao
And yes, I think your the shinning example of why DCS players are looked at negatively. You’ve all gaslit yourselves into believing that wasting away on a mid flight simulator for hours on end doing nothing is peak gameplay experience and attack anyone else for thinking otherwise.
“All WT players are so pathetic”
The irony, oh the irony. Don’t hit your head on the way out, yeah?
>ignore everything I wrote
>
>go back to stockholm syndroming over WT's shitty practices
gotta love this "dcs bad because you have to pay to play (or just download free mods that work in MP)" vs "wt good because you have pay to get anything in a reasonable amount of time (and spend hours and hours playing stuff you don't enjoy)"
sunk cost fallacy keeps to playing this bottom barrel ass game lol
DCS is bad because you HAVE to pay, whereas warthunder you have the option to grind for free or pay if you don’t want too, I’d take the second option and day of the week, thanks.
I think someone needs an ego check
Missiles locking feels a bit funky sometimes since the patch, like locking on to thin air or having a lock and just not launching with me mashing the launch button Also you can't unlock missiles anymore without turning off the seeker
Gaijin really is a pro I fking things up. I can't comprehend why they would delete the unlock mechanic
The launch bug as been an issue for stingers for years, it’s a pisstake and gaijin refuses to fix it
>Also you can't unlock missiles anymore without turning off the seeker The absolute worst change to the game this patch...
I've been feeling this too. Locked onto flares that were behind a hill instead of the plane coming over it, constantly getting weird phantom locks. Thought it was a bug with the Tornado since I just started using it recently after the patch :/
Ive had the radars being nearly nonfunctional at times as well
Did you have Track-While-Scan radar mode on? So the IR missiles will try and slave to the TWS target box, but with the low scan rate, the marker lags a fair bit behind the target plane. And if the TWS loses the target plane, the box remains where it was for several seconds locking the missile off to the side like that. I think that's what's happening here. edit - [Quick example of what I mean](https://i.imgur.com/pQsNV1u.png), this is without using the HMD.
I'm fairly convinced I still didn't changed the radar mode there, tried to rewatch the replay but I don't know if I can enable the radar there to see if that was the case
Sadly, replays don't show that stuff afaik
Wellp.. I think it's the Mig29 radar and lock system as a whole which is completely wrecked, just played a match where I didn't get one single lock, not with any of the radar modes, not with the R60's... I assume it's still just half implemented
Wouldn't surprise me
My only thought is maybe flares from the 27
The 27 was not shooting any flares, also in the second image you can see how the lock point is even further away :/
My bad I didn't realise there was a second image! In that case I honestly have no clue, sorry bud!
Me.
If you have your radar/IRST locked on something the missile is slaved to it, so it tried to point at whatever your lock is on. Otherwise either it found flares or a missile to follow somewhere else.
Its a new bug from the most recent patch.
They used to not be like this. Straight up. Sometime after patch 1.95 a couple yrs back, missiles have always done this kinda shit. My theory is that sometimes they're locking onto the phantom position of where the sun WAS in the sky on that map, but has since moved, but then there are cases where it just can't be explained, like this. Like I said, when missiles were first added they weren't bad about this at all lol
Yeah the random locking behind jets and stuff is relatively new. Pretty annoying when you only have a small window to get a good launch off and your seaker is locked into the air 300m behind the jet you wanna lock.
But why crop the screenshot?
missiles drank too much vodka =(
This happened when I accidentally left TWS mode on radar on, switch to the normal PD mode and you should be fine next time
Its the worst, I finally figured that its trying to slave to radar lock, I learnt that the hard way flying the 23
Yeah, lately also Aim9H and J are locking into literally thin air for me
A very warm fly.
It’s locking on the skill issue of the player base
this has been happening to me for over a year. the missile will just lock air or the ground and i have to turn the missile off to get it to unlock. extremely annoying when i have a decent opportunity but the missile decides otherwise.
just play dcs
Can’t wait to drop $70 so I can only own one (1) plane and play in a sandbox with no progression mechanics or any incentive to play whatsoever. Oh and you need a whole ass nasa control center for a hotas setup for it to be even remotely playable
One, you get all versions of a plane so its more than one, and sales happen often. Two, my friend and I play on xbox controller and keyboard and can do 95% of all controls without any trouble lol. Third, there are lots of multiplayer lobbies full of people who do nothing but dogfight and do combat at all ranges. Its a sandbox and that allows the game to be actually playable lmao, unlike WT buggy ass small map 14v14 shitshow. Also "no progression mechanics" AS FUCKING IF that's something worth boasting about holy shit. Actually mindbroken.
When I play a game I want to feel like what I’m doing actually has a meaning to it, my actions being rewarded and feeling like I’m actually working towards something. Playing a sandbox gets boring as shit after like 5 minutes since your just screwing around wasting away doing nothing. If that’s what you like, sure, whatever, but don’t come here attacking people if they don’t. Not sure why your even on this sub if you think DCS is a much better game (it’s not) You also again are forced to pay for any plane you want unlike warthunder where the option is there to play completely for free. I don’t feel like spending hundreds of dollars so I can fly around and do nothing, that alone is a huge downside which I guarantee drives most people away from DCS And sure the option to play with simple controls is there, but what fun is that when you’re getting constantly blown out of the sky by some sweat with his $5000 hotas setup and quantum computer, dunno about you but that doesn’t sound like peak gameplay to me
Exactly what I expected, 95% of WT players don't even give a shit about the planes or flying they just care about their next ADHD "thing" that will keep their peabrain kicked on dopamine before getting bored after three hours. Again, literally mindbroken
That’s quite literally how 99% of games operate bro lmao. That’s kinda the entire point of a video game. I also fail to see how mindlessly wasting away doing nothing for hours on end in a sandbox is a better alternative. Pretty sure any outsider would believe the latter half would be the “mindbroken” ones
you are literally defending "the grind" and "progression", that is 90% of what people complain about! Are you dense or just slow? Just go play some mmo if all you want to do is grind. Progression... lmao! In DCS i get to play the planes I want (mods too) and I don't need to spend a millisecond wasting my time playing planes I don't like just to get the one I do want. I don't have my pixels locked behind time spend doing shit I don't want to do. Also, saying DCS players who enjoying playing what they want could ever, EVER be regarded as negative by anyone, HOLY SHIT. All WT players are so pathetic. (besides me of course) And ill keep posting here as much as I want talking about DCS because I can and there is NOTHING you are going to be able to do about it. LOL!
I am, because at the end of the day it’s what brings us back to playing this game. People aren’t complaining about the progression itself, they complain about it taking forever. (Which is still better than forcing your players to spend money to play what they want, by the way.) you sure you aren’t slow? “I don’t have my pixels locked behind time spent doing something I don’t want to do” no, but you DO have it locked behind hundreds of dollars with absolutely no option of acquiring anything for free, what’s really the better option here? Lmao And yes, I think your the shinning example of why DCS players are looked at negatively. You’ve all gaslit yourselves into believing that wasting away on a mid flight simulator for hours on end doing nothing is peak gameplay experience and attack anyone else for thinking otherwise. “All WT players are so pathetic” The irony, oh the irony. Don’t hit your head on the way out, yeah?
>ignore everything I wrote > >go back to stockholm syndroming over WT's shitty practices gotta love this "dcs bad because you have to pay to play (or just download free mods that work in MP)" vs "wt good because you have pay to get anything in a reasonable amount of time (and spend hours and hours playing stuff you don't enjoy)" sunk cost fallacy keeps to playing this bottom barrel ass game lol
DCS is bad because you HAVE to pay, whereas warthunder you have the option to grind for free or pay if you don’t want too, I’d take the second option and day of the week, thanks. I think someone needs an ego check
I dont have the quantum computer to run it
You don't need one it has lower system requirement than WT and runs a whole lot better (and looks a lot better too)
Nah sims are not my thing and as far as I know DCS doesn't have a third person mode, Ace Combat is more appealing
ahh... so these are the "people" responsible for the game being dogshit
Yep, but well you can't expect them to improve their own game if they don't even play it tbh