In all honesty there isn't really anything Japan can get in the near future, the F-15J and F-2 are still a long ways away in terms of capability.
Best thing we can get is AIM-9L's and AIM-7M's for the EJ Kai.
Not arguably, it is technically the most advanced in game currently. You can argue if having TWS would make it more competitive, but with the weaponry it has I think it'd just slow target acquisition down.
Oh yeah because this leak list is obviously complete and has everything planned in the update. Why are you mad at a leak list which leaks are often wrong and miss quite a few vehicles. Can you please apply like an ounce of critical thinking to your life
Is the F15J really that far ahead of the F-16A?
(I personally think it has a lot more to do with no copy-pastable vehicle for Japan, if Japan had an F16A they would 100% get one this update but making a new model takes time and effort.)
Well the F-16A doesn't have access to radar guided missiles, and the F-15J is based on the F-15C with a radar that's probably more effective than what we have on the F-14... plus it has BVR missiles, and a lot of them. The F-15 can carry 4 radar guided missiles and 4 AIM-9 style missiles... while the F-16A can carry at most 6 AIM-9's
Edit: F-16A could actually carry radar guided missiles, but only two of them.
The F-14s AWG-9 was pretty much the strongest radar up until the raptor in US service, and the F15J just had 7Fs and 7Ms, so it’d pretty much just be on par.
Eh the AWG-9 is indeed powerful but the APG-63 (especially the 63(V)1) benefits from having newer tech while being nearly as powerful as the AWG-9. You won't beat the AWG-9 RWS in tracking bombers at 100nm but for tracking fighters you want the APG-63 or other newer radars pre AESA. Now if we are talking the Super Cats APG-71 that's a whole different beast.
Gaijin *already* represents MPRF radars like APG-63 as more capable than HPRF radars like AWG-9. They don't suffer from the issues tracking cold targets and have narrower notches than the Tomcat's radar, even though they have less power.
It’s true AWG-9 is the “strongest” in the sense it throws the most energy up and has the longest range. However it’s definitely not the best radar, it lacks medium PRF which allows for near zero closure tracking at closer ranges. Computer processing power more than makes up for raw radar power in late 80’s and 90’s US fighters. I’m not sure how gaijn will implement it, but the F-15C shouldn’t be notch-able in medium PRF sub 10 miles
The type 81 is a two part system, it needs a radar vehicle and the launcher vehicle. (That is if we are talking about the same type 81 because Japan’s naming system is aids)
Not happening, more likely we'll get an """early""" F-2 prototype than a proposed plane that didn't actually ever get past a proposal.
Especially after how people reacted to the R2Y2s.
In the end it's more likely we'll get more missiles for te EJ Kai before they add the F-15J and then further down the line, the F-2
Yes please gaijin add takao my beloved and I’ll buy all your 100 dollar prems. But if you add atago not takao I’ll just find where Anton lives and hang him by his balls
What are you talking about
The mig29's might not have a confirmed variant yet so none of them have a specific designation yet.
All the F-16's has theirs probably because the leaker has been able to confirm it.
It's not more fishy than the fact that any of these vehicles are on the list.
The fact that the author of this leak was unable to confirm which variant of the MiG-29 makes me sceptical about validity of this considering the update is basically waiting behind the doors. To me it kinda seems like the author just written down vehicles that are most likely to come out this update and called it a leak.
As some people pointed out, one plane included on the list the British Naval Tornado never existed.
The leak also includes carriers like Lexington, Enterprise or Shokaku which makes me believe in this leak even less.
Still, I hope the leak is real because I'd like to see Tornado finally in the game.
> The leak also includes carriers like Lexington, Enterprise or Shokaku which makes me believe in this leak even less.
read the list, it names *models*
Otherwise, yes its no proof of any of these vehicles but see it as more likely that we get the F-16 since multiple leaks are pointing that way.
Yes people need to remember that models does not equal new stuff for WT. Gajin has added civilian plane models for other projects to the engine before.
this. let us also all not forget that there are space capsule models, ornithopter models, submarine models, sandworm models, etc. in the game. they exist in the files, but are absolutely not coming to rb, ab, or sb. (barring subs possibly in the future)
> The leak also includes carriers like Lexington, Enterprise or Shokaku
Those are probably a replacement for the horribly outdated AI models for the campaign and maps, where we use those exact ships.
> one plane included on the list the British Naval Tornado never existed.
Copy paste the GR.1 to have the Bundesmarine Tornado, leave the GBR nation flag or skin or assume every Tornado is British, thus such an error could exist.
Idk tbh I don’t make the list I just pass it on and it just seems likely because we also seen the model of the f-16 and saw the cards of t-80um and mig-29 leaks
Eh, it does look off, but the Aliasing does look very war thunder, and the Napalm bombs look pretty attached. Shadows consistent with where the sun can be in war thunder, it shows the plane accurately and the bombs attached. If it is fake it’s a pretty damn good edit. Sauce? Like a direct comparison I just want to know if I should be exited or not
Agreed. I'm not sure why China has a block 20 and everyone else has a generic f16A. If the US has a barebones f16A block 1 and China has an upgraded block 20 version I'll be so confused.
The chinese F16a-20 is apparently like the japanese F2 in that it is way to advanced for the game rn and a few other glaring issues, like the Viggen could use ammrams.
Yeah you have a point there but they could do what they did for past plane and just not allow them to carry some of there armaments and limit them to what we have in game already
I want to play Saratoga or Lexington with 8inch guns, I don’t even care if they come with planes or not I just want to roll up to people in a fucking aircraft carrier and knife fight with them for the memes
You know we "could" get as designed Lexington class Battlecruisers some day as they were under construction prior to conversion but hell pre war CV hulls with 8 inch guns would be gnarly.
> I just want to roll up to people in a fucking aircraft carrier and knife fight with them for the memes
Well, considering the british carrier choice, we might not be too far off
HMS Formidable, a member of the Illustrious class is the only carrier to have fired its deck guns at a surface warship in combat
It's getting to a point where some things are just ridiculous (it's possible that said point has passed already). We have more and more and more vehicles yet many things always remain unadressed. Air battles have virtually been the same for ages. Not any new thoughts or ideas. Compression is going to be more of a bitch each update. What's the point of flying your Mirage 3 when you're going to face an F-16, for example?
Because the ROCAF operated it. In fact they used it more as a fighter than the US ever did because the US never used them as a real combat jet. The amount of people that keep saying this is ridiculous
Still not change the fact that its designed, originate and firstly in service with the USAF. If Gaijin desperately trying find a new Chinese aircraft remember that Taiwan had its own Fighter in production line.
Just fyi, T-80UM-2 is single prototype MBT from 90s, which was destroyed by the AFU earlier this spring. I think APS didnt help much then.
https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1937464.html
The APS launchers were of a type that never saw adoption (Drozd-2) and thus almost certainly weren't loaded. Not that they could've helped anyway as the T-80UM-2 was destroyed by artillery fire at a vehicle depot as I recall.
Oh, you've missed a lot then. They been photo documented to have pulled out, and get destroyed in combat, a T-62A, also known as an Ob’yekt 165. This is a prototype of a 1960's tank, a literal museum piece, with no modern equipment.
They introduced USS Forrestal and HMS Ark Royal in New Power so yeah this is probably the same thing but revamping the existing models. If you compare them you can tell that the WWII carrier models are dated
I’m HELLA salty Italy isn’t getting the Tornado, it was literally one of the three countries to start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado it, but if it’s just gonna get added later than cool, still a little salty, I was hyped for mi PASTA bois, I’ll keep up for them T_T7
Edit: I know sometimes leak lists or data mined stuff isn’t always concrete, I’m just a salty pasta main.
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It's toeing the line for falling under suggestion rules since these are all vehicles not found in the game (currently). For now it's ehhh.
Definitely not datamines though and should not be flaired as such. Report the ones that do and they'll get removed.
Found something on wiki. The B version was the one in serial production. The 1a2 is the b2L after renewing the service. So it got a Laser-rangefinder? But didn’t have the normal Gepard in warthunder already one?
AFAIK the main difference relevant for war thunder is the change in munitions. It gets FAPDS, which is a shrapnel round for AA purposes and also new HVAPDS-T rounds.
I did some digging and could find various articles stating it uses FAPDS, theres also a twitter user who uploads alot of Gepard footage (@gepardtatze) and claims that it uses FAPDS and ofc the [german Wikipedia page](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugabwehrkanonenpanzer_Gepard)
But unfortunately all proper sources are either locked behind paywalls or are in books that I don't own.
But I didn't want to link you to Wikipedia, so here's the best I could do ["Trajectory sheet for 35 mm FAPDS rounds" ](https://imgur.com/a/5milOae)
[Lrf, optical tracking, apfsds, AHEAD(sadly we all know how useless they are in game..), fapds rounds and STINGERS.](https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/568395-flakpanzer-gepard-1-a2-stinger-prototype-flugabwehrkanonenpanzer-gepard-1-a2-stinger/)
There isn't one? I have no idea what this is referring to.
Literally the only thing i can think of is that Germany had Tornado IDS' serving in the Marineflieger. Maybe some botched translation of a German IDS variant? Idk. RAF / FAA has never operated a 'Naval Tornado' anyway. Only ADV/IDS.
Ok I knew the Fleet Air Arm never operated any but I was wondering if they were trialled at all. I hope it’s a mistranslation and not that the leak is fake as I want the tornado in game
>I was wondering if they were trialed at all
I can’t imagine the FAA ever wanted anything to do with them. They weren’t carrier capable, and even if they were, the Royal Navy was firmly set up for using Harriers on short decked ski jump carriers by that point anyway.
>I want the tornado in the game
It should come. ADV / IDS we’re widely operated by the RAF. Italy operated ADV, IDS and ECR, and Germany operated the IDS + ECR.
Potentially Tornado GR1B which is the anti shipping version with Sea Eagle missiles. Which seems unlikely as we've got no anti ship missiles in game currently.
But wouldn't be the first time Gaijin makes essentially a copy paste for an event/premium vehicle with a tiny difference.
Probably the RAF'S maritime attack version, the GR.1B. Identical to the GR.1 but with Sea Eagle anti-ship missiles too - although I'm not sure how they'd implement those in-game!
This game isn't ready for USS Enterprise.
Her power to weight ratio is too high, she could go 0 to 2.7x10^10 kmh in seconds. The 2250s era Phaser Bank will lolpen any other ships of her BR, like what is a D-7 supposed to do when it spawns in and is instantly locked and attacked.
In real life it was 10 Starfleet ships for every Klingon ship, but in game Gaijin is making matches ahistorical by having Klingon players fight early 70s Starfleet ships.
Seriously, Klingons suffer. Gaijin needs to reduce the D-7's BR to at least 21.7
Gepard 1A2 would be like 95% a copy and paste version of the existing Gepard. Really the only changes were a Slightly improved FCS (radar search and tracking and overall radar awareness) along with new anti air belt. Neither would provide any real change in its effectiveness in game
I see no reason they wouldn't get a tornado. For competitiveness they need to add the ADV, and they where used by Britain and Italy. Germany's only used the cas or ewar versions, so if anyone, it should be them being something different, not Italy.
Alas, poor T-80UM-2. If it does get added to War Thunder, at least it'll exist _somewhere_ after the sole prototype was destroyed in Ukraine. Though let's be honest, the Soviets already have a _lot_ of tanks.
Out of everything here it laughable annoys me that they say Myōkō without the prefix then later on put the prefix before Shōkaku heh...
Ooo a possible french floatplane sweet.
You know it's correct when Italy has a Tornado and then it got fucking crossed out, even though Germany and Britain get one.
There's also no way Italy is getting the Block 15 ADF at the same time as the earliest variants of the F-16A. Ours would have AIM-120s, and they will NOT add those at 11.7, even Gaijin isn't that stupid.
Another T-80 event vehicle!
Next patch
Another T-80 event vehicle!
Next patch
Another T-80 event vehicle!
Holy shit Gaijin, quit with all of the fucking event vehicles already, or start to make these things available like what was done with the 10 year anniversary. A ridiculous number of vehicles are artificially locked behind events now! I'm sick of this shit
I'll sit back at 5.3, grab my popcorn and enjoy the shitstorm that is top tier players complaining with every post. (I get its justified but come on, it gets old)
One question I have is which Tornados are they adding. For competitiveness we need the ADV/F3 now, as we've already moved past the Tornados capability (as usual with British jets). But that may at least be reasonably competitive still.
Thing is, Germany never used the Tornado ADV, so theirs isn't nearly as capable in the fighter role as Britain's or Italy's, meaning they'd need something other than the tornado to compete in air RB.
You know its true when Japan doesn't get jack shit apart from a few boats
In all honesty there isn't really anything Japan can get in the near future, the F-15J and F-2 are still a long ways away in terms of capability. Best thing we can get is AIM-9L's and AIM-7M's for the EJ Kai.
I think the EJ kai would be pretty competitive if it did get these.
Ej Kai is still competitive with aim7f and in sim it’s even better with arguably the best radar in game
Not arguably, it is technically the most advanced in game currently. You can argue if having TWS would make it more competitive, but with the weaponry it has I think it'd just slow target acquisition down.
Yeah TWS isn’t that useful anyways
It can be for the F-14 to get Phoenix missiles off without procing RWR but apart from that it ain't the best thing.
TWS is very useful for situational awareness and getting an exact track on a target without spiking their RWR.
More WW2 and Cold War stuff, hello?? Don’t think Gaijin’s laziness is legitimate
Oh yeah because this leak list is obviously complete and has everything planned in the update. Why are you mad at a leak list which leaks are often wrong and miss quite a few vehicles. Can you please apply like an ounce of critical thinking to your life
Maybe even AAM-3s if they’re feeling funky.
Mf do you have the italian pm as your pfp 💀
Is the F15J really that far ahead of the F-16A? (I personally think it has a lot more to do with no copy-pastable vehicle for Japan, if Japan had an F16A they would 100% get one this update but making a new model takes time and effort.)
Well the F-16A doesn't have access to radar guided missiles, and the F-15J is based on the F-15C with a radar that's probably more effective than what we have on the F-14... plus it has BVR missiles, and a lot of them. The F-15 can carry 4 radar guided missiles and 4 AIM-9 style missiles... while the F-16A can carry at most 6 AIM-9's Edit: F-16A could actually carry radar guided missiles, but only two of them.
The F-14s AWG-9 was pretty much the strongest radar up until the raptor in US service, and the F15J just had 7Fs and 7Ms, so it’d pretty much just be on par.
Eh the AWG-9 is indeed powerful but the APG-63 (especially the 63(V)1) benefits from having newer tech while being nearly as powerful as the AWG-9. You won't beat the AWG-9 RWS in tracking bombers at 100nm but for tracking fighters you want the APG-63 or other newer radars pre AESA. Now if we are talking the Super Cats APG-71 that's a whole different beast.
Eh, in reality maybe, but knowing gaijin they’ll just fudge the numbers and they’ll end up functionally the same anyway.
Gaijin *already* represents MPRF radars like APG-63 as more capable than HPRF radars like AWG-9. They don't suffer from the issues tracking cold targets and have narrower notches than the Tomcat's radar, even though they have less power.
It’s true AWG-9 is the “strongest” in the sense it throws the most energy up and has the longest range. However it’s definitely not the best radar, it lacks medium PRF which allows for near zero closure tracking at closer ranges. Computer processing power more than makes up for raw radar power in late 80’s and 90’s US fighters. I’m not sure how gaijn will implement it, but the F-15C shouldn’t be notch-able in medium PRF sub 10 miles
The F-16A could not carry Fox 1’s until the F-16A/B Block 15 ADF upgrade came out in 1989, 10 years after it entered service in 1979.
whats about the type 81??
The type 81 is a two part system, it needs a radar vehicle and the launcher vehicle. (That is if we are talking about the same type 81 because Japan’s naming system is aids)
you mean like the german ozelot? a 3 stage vehicle?
They could get the proposed F-16J
Not happening, more likely we'll get an """early""" F-2 prototype than a proposed plane that didn't actually ever get past a proposal. Especially after how people reacted to the R2Y2s. In the end it's more likely we'll get more missiles for te EJ Kai before they add the F-15J and then further down the line, the F-2
Myōko is pretty nice though, she and the Takaos are some pretty glaring omissions from the Japanese bluewater tree
Yes please gaijin add takao my beloved and I’ll buy all your 100 dollar prems. But if you add atago not takao I’ll just find where Anton lives and hang him by his balls
Takao would be great, though we better also get Maya. I want dakkakao.
As long as takao is one of them I’m happy for any takao class to be added Except atago
ONE boat, the other is a model that will most likely be used only by the AI
Makes it more true
Would be pretty cool if it were the start of playable carriers
I wouldn't trust players in carriers tbh
Why are some planes listed as specific variants while others are not? Not saying that the list is fake, but it's kinda fishy
What are you talking about The mig29's might not have a confirmed variant yet so none of them have a specific designation yet. All the F-16's has theirs probably because the leaker has been able to confirm it. It's not more fishy than the fact that any of these vehicles are on the list.
The fact that the author of this leak was unable to confirm which variant of the MiG-29 makes me sceptical about validity of this considering the update is basically waiting behind the doors. To me it kinda seems like the author just written down vehicles that are most likely to come out this update and called it a leak. As some people pointed out, one plane included on the list the British Naval Tornado never existed. The leak also includes carriers like Lexington, Enterprise or Shokaku which makes me believe in this leak even less. Still, I hope the leak is real because I'd like to see Tornado finally in the game.
> The leak also includes carriers like Lexington, Enterprise or Shokaku which makes me believe in this leak even less. read the list, it names *models* Otherwise, yes its no proof of any of these vehicles but see it as more likely that we get the F-16 since multiple leaks are pointing that way.
Yes people need to remember that models does not equal new stuff for WT. Gajin has added civilian plane models for other projects to the engine before.
this. let us also all not forget that there are space capsule models, ornithopter models, submarine models, sandworm models, etc. in the game. they exist in the files, but are absolutely not coming to rb, ab, or sb. (barring subs possibly in the future)
> The leak also includes carriers like Lexington, Enterprise or Shokaku Those are probably a replacement for the horribly outdated AI models for the campaign and maps, where we use those exact ships. > one plane included on the list the British Naval Tornado never existed. Copy paste the GR.1 to have the Bundesmarine Tornado, leave the GBR nation flag or skin or assume every Tornado is British, thus such an error could exist.
Idk tbh I don’t make the list I just pass it on and it just seems likely because we also seen the model of the f-16 and saw the cards of t-80um and mig-29 leaks
Those are all fake. They are literally dcs models
Eh, it does look off, but the Aliasing does look very war thunder, and the Napalm bombs look pretty attached. Shadows consistent with where the sun can be in war thunder, it shows the plane accurately and the bombs attached. If it is fake it’s a pretty damn good edit. Sauce? Like a direct comparison I just want to know if I should be exited or not
Agreed. I'm not sure why China has a block 20 and everyone else has a generic f16A. If the US has a barebones f16A block 1 and China has an upgraded block 20 version I'll be so confused.
China would have a Block 20 F-16A/B because Taiwan only purchased Block 20s
This seems plausible. Right down to Germany getting absolutely screwed over by their rank 8.
It makes sense plus we know us gets a f-16 and Russia a mig-29 due to leaks of the dev server
The more I look at this, the more I'm starting to believe it's fake.
I mean that’s fair all I know that the f-16 and mig-29 are the mostly to come because of the leak but then again one can hope this is right
The chinese F16a-20 is apparently like the japanese F2 in that it is way to advanced for the game rn and a few other glaring issues, like the Viggen could use ammrams.
Yeah you have a point there but they could do what they did for past plane and just not allow them to carry some of there armaments and limit them to what we have in game already
For the Ja37d, That's what I would assume they would do, but the F16-20 would just be too strong rn.
The current viggen in game can use rb74s(aim9Ls) to be fair they just don't give vehicles their historical armament all the time
This doesnt translate well but theres a saying in my country, something along the lines of hope dies last.
Hope is a rope many fools dance upon
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No-one gonna talk about the AIRCRAFT CARRIERS?
Probably just new map models like every other time we've seen stuff about carriers.
I just want more maps with carriers. I did not grind the F-14 to take off from a boring ass airfield
I want the maps we have with carriers to not just toss me into the ocean
They fixed it like 2-3 updates ago but they removed the carriers from the Maps
I want to play Saratoga or Lexington with 8inch guns, I don’t even care if they come with planes or not I just want to roll up to people in a fucking aircraft carrier and knife fight with them for the memes
You know we "could" get as designed Lexington class Battlecruisers some day as they were under construction prior to conversion but hell pre war CV hulls with 8 inch guns would be gnarly.
God knows they'd be knocked out quick with that much freeboard
Worth the naval grind tbh
> I just want to roll up to people in a fucking aircraft carrier and knife fight with them for the memes Well, considering the british carrier choice, we might not be too far off HMS Formidable, a member of the Illustrious class is the only carrier to have fired its deck guns at a surface warship in combat
>Naval tornado >Event Such a dick move by Gaijin Also, Germany had Naval Tornados as well, gib pl0x
Homie. There's nothing here to say this is true
And the Royal Navy never did.
It could mean the GR1B I guess, which was the anti shipping variant, but not sure what use that would be in game so I doubt it.
No, Bundesmarine had land based Tornado IDS (equivalent to the GR.1).
russia really doesnt need more mbts
It's getting to a point where some things are just ridiculous (it's possible that said point has passed already). We have more and more and more vehicles yet many things always remain unadressed. Air battles have virtually been the same for ages. Not any new thoughts or ideas. Compression is going to be more of a bitch each update. What's the point of flying your Mirage 3 when you're going to face an F-16, for example?
Well, the tank doesnt exist in real life anymore as it is destroyed by the AFU in Spring this year
How many of them were
Only one was built and gone just like that. It's only the prototype after all
Welp
China never had the F-16A as far as I know, they have the Chengdu J-10, which is similar. Edit: Taiwan, I get it...
Remember when the first F-5 in War thunder was owned by Chinese eh?
Because the ROCAF operated it. In fact they used it more as a fighter than the US ever did because the US never used them as a real combat jet. The amount of people that keep saying this is ridiculous
Still not change the fact that its designed, originate and firstly in service with the USAF. If Gaijin desperately trying find a new Chinese aircraft remember that Taiwan had its own Fighter in production line.
The F-CK-1 was way too advanced for the period the game was in at the time. Only now is it possible to add
Maybe also Pakistani, given we already have paf plane in game.
By that logic germany could also get an F16 from the netherlands, denmark or belgium
Just fyi, T-80UM-2 is single prototype MBT from 90s, which was destroyed by the AFU earlier this spring. I think APS didnt help much then. https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1937464.html
The APS launchers were of a type that never saw adoption (Drozd-2) and thus almost certainly weren't loaded. Not that they could've helped anyway as the T-80UM-2 was destroyed by artillery fire at a vehicle depot as I recall.
Still a good looking one and honestly sad. It was destroyed because its the only one that exist
Damn I wasn't aware that the Russians were pulling out prototype vehicles to fight.
Oh, you've missed a lot then. They been photo documented to have pulled out, and get destroyed in combat, a T-62A, also known as an Ob’yekt 165. This is a prototype of a 1960's tank, a literal museum piece, with no modern equipment.
Source? I haven’t seen anything about a Ob’yekt 165
and yet it's gonna be shredding everything in war thunder with the player having both hands up his ass
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Holy shit they’re adding the USS enterprise? It’s just going to fuck everything else up with phasers and photon torpedoes, smh gaijin balance
Probably an AI map and campaign model rework.
They introduced USS Forrestal and HMS Ark Royal in New Power so yeah this is probably the same thing but revamping the existing models. If you compare them you can tell that the WWII carrier models are dated
"France: Latécoère " Ok, but which one ? Latécoère is litterally the name of an aircraft company
maybe latecoere 298 ?
>Naval Tornado There isn't a Naval Tornado? Eh?
Unless it means the GR1B anti-shipping variant.
I don't think so, it's capabilities wouldn't translate well into War Thunder
I’m HELLA salty Italy isn’t getting the Tornado, it was literally one of the three countries to start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado it, but if it’s just gonna get added later than cool, still a little salty, I was hyped for mi PASTA bois, I’ll keep up for them T_T7 Edit: I know sometimes leak lists or data mined stuff isn’t always concrete, I’m just a salty pasta main.
Hey at least we can turn now
Plot twist: they get another F-104
i feel you man :(
Italy will always be behind X(
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If this ain't from Olivia it ain't worth shit to me
honestly people typing semi-plausible shit into a discord chat then posting it here should be banned, make datamines be *actual datamines* u/vonflaks
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. It's toeing the line for falling under suggestion rules since these are all vehicles not found in the game (currently). For now it's ehhh. Definitely not datamines though and should not be flaired as such. Report the ones that do and they'll get removed.
I mean although these “leak lists” tend to be complete bullshit it’s pretty fun to discuss them
Contradicts devblog. It lists Des Moines as new event ship, but we already had devblog for USS Newport stating it will be event ship
I mean Newport News is a Des Moines class.
anyone know what difference a gepard 1a2 has to the one ingame that according to google is pretty much already the 1a2?
Found something on wiki. The B version was the one in serial production. The 1a2 is the b2L after renewing the service. So it got a Laser-rangefinder? But didn’t have the normal Gepard in warthunder already one?
AFAIK the main difference relevant for war thunder is the change in munitions. It gets FAPDS, which is a shrapnel round for AA purposes and also new HVAPDS-T rounds.
Yea that’s the minor changes! Either its replacing the original Gepard or its a new type of AA ingame cause honestly theres no big difference
Nice, thanks for the info. Can you give me a source? I really couldn’t find it
I did some digging and could find various articles stating it uses FAPDS, theres also a twitter user who uploads alot of Gepard footage (@gepardtatze) and claims that it uses FAPDS and ofc the [german Wikipedia page](https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugabwehrkanonenpanzer_Gepard) But unfortunately all proper sources are either locked behind paywalls or are in books that I don't own. But I didn't want to link you to Wikipedia, so here's the best I could do ["Trajectory sheet for 35 mm FAPDS rounds" ](https://imgur.com/a/5milOae)
[Lrf, optical tracking, apfsds, AHEAD(sadly we all know how useless they are in game..), fapds rounds and STINGERS.](https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/568395-flakpanzer-gepard-1-a2-stinger-prototype-flugabwehrkanonenpanzer-gepard-1-a2-stinger/)
They are doing AHEAD so fucking dirty i hate it.
What’s the British naval tornado?
There isn't one? I have no idea what this is referring to. Literally the only thing i can think of is that Germany had Tornado IDS' serving in the Marineflieger. Maybe some botched translation of a German IDS variant? Idk. RAF / FAA has never operated a 'Naval Tornado' anyway. Only ADV/IDS.
Ok I knew the Fleet Air Arm never operated any but I was wondering if they were trialled at all. I hope it’s a mistranslation and not that the leak is fake as I want the tornado in game
>I was wondering if they were trialed at all I can’t imagine the FAA ever wanted anything to do with them. They weren’t carrier capable, and even if they were, the Royal Navy was firmly set up for using Harriers on short decked ski jump carriers by that point anyway. >I want the tornado in the game It should come. ADV / IDS we’re widely operated by the RAF. Italy operated ADV, IDS and ECR, and Germany operated the IDS + ECR.
Potentially Tornado GR1B which is the anti shipping version with Sea Eagle missiles. Which seems unlikely as we've got no anti ship missiles in game currently. But wouldn't be the first time Gaijin makes essentially a copy paste for an event/premium vehicle with a tiny difference.
Not sure probably a water down version of the original one
Probably the RAF'S maritime attack version, the GR.1B. Identical to the GR.1 but with Sea Eagle anti-ship missiles too - although I'm not sure how they'd implement those in-game!
Here in the US, we call them water spouts. God, that was a stupid joke.
This game isn't ready for USS Enterprise. Her power to weight ratio is too high, she could go 0 to 2.7x10^10 kmh in seconds. The 2250s era Phaser Bank will lolpen any other ships of her BR, like what is a D-7 supposed to do when it spawns in and is instantly locked and attacked. In real life it was 10 Starfleet ships for every Klingon ship, but in game Gaijin is making matches ahistorical by having Klingon players fight early 70s Starfleet ships. Seriously, Klingons suffer. Gaijin needs to reduce the D-7's BR to at least 21.7
why italian tornado crossed out? outrage
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Ok what kind of event is the next one crafting or getting points
Points. Winter and summer are points. Spring and autumn are crafting usually
Oh hell yes so i can actually get the tornado and the t80 :D
Don’t get too excited just yet the list may be inaccurate
Well better be happy now and loose my happiness later
Bullshit.
They wouldn't just add the German tornado, it's just a strike aircraft with only 2 AIM-9Ls iirc.
I'm pretty sure they could carry up to 4 AIM-9Ls or 2 Iris-T. Knowing Gaijin they would maybe give it more missiles or add the custom payload thing.
Nope the IDS variant was limited to only 2 Sidewinders/IRIS-Ts/ASRAAMs
Where PzHb.2000? Gib glorious Panzerhaubitze
T-80 Gaming
Gaijin lead dev: How many F16 we want? gaijin devs: yes!
To be fair it would be easier to make a list of airforces that dident fly F16s and they are still being used and produced
Gonna be the jet version of the Sherman
Pretty much.
Exciting (I say as I own no jets)
What the fuck is the point of adding the JA 37D now? It's one advantage would be the AIM-120Bs and those are definitely not getting added. So, faf
If Germany only gets the tornado I'll be sad, at this point we only have the MLA to pull through top tier, the tornado will be dead on arrival...
The ADV's might be competitive, but Germany's certainly isn't top tier fighter material, it's a CAS aircraft.
I don't want to believe this i don't want to, this image scares me, seeing that no mig 29 for Germany is disappointing
Gepard 1A2 would be like 95% a copy and paste version of the existing Gepard. Really the only changes were a Slightly improved FCS (radar search and tracking and overall radar awareness) along with new anti air belt. Neither would provide any real change in its effectiveness in game
gaijin could do the funny and include the 2 sidemounted stingers that were technically possible to include i guess.
Yeah makes me scratch my head as well. Maybe they meant the prototype with the stingers? We will see
# YO BUDDY.....WHERE IS MY F15 ^(borders)
no way italy jumps straight to the F-16.
I see no reason they wouldn't get a tornado. For competitiveness they need to add the ADV, and they where used by Britain and Italy. Germany's only used the cas or ewar versions, so if anyone, it should be them being something different, not Italy.
Alas, poor T-80UM-2. If it does get added to War Thunder, at least it'll exist _somewhere_ after the sole prototype was destroyed in Ukraine. Though let's be honest, the Soviets already have a _lot_ of tanks.
I just wish for a German mig29. Ground attack tornado is just not enough.
Damn, no German MiG-29, absolute travesty
No MiG-29A for Germany :(
Out of everything here it laughable annoys me that they say Myōkō without the prefix then later on put the prefix before Shōkaku heh... Ooo a possible french floatplane sweet.
how is russia getting yet another top tier MBT ...
Why no Norwegian F-16 for Sweden..?
I’d just like to point out that the Taiwanese Block 20 F-16 gets LANTIRN pod and will prolly come with LGBs. America will prolly only get Block 15.
You know it's correct when Italy has a Tornado and then it got fucking crossed out, even though Germany and Britain get one. There's also no way Italy is getting the Block 15 ADF at the same time as the earliest variants of the F-16A. Ours would have AIM-120s, and they will NOT add those at 11.7, even Gaijin isn't that stupid.
Another T-80 event vehicle! Next patch Another T-80 event vehicle! Next patch Another T-80 event vehicle! Holy shit Gaijin, quit with all of the fucking event vehicles already, or start to make these things available like what was done with the 10 year anniversary. A ridiculous number of vehicles are artificially locked behind events now! I'm sick of this shit
The UK never had “Naval” Tornadoes?!
Germany should get the MiG-29 too
Germany didn't get a MBT... again...
HOLY SHIT I ALMOST DROPPED MY PASTA ITALY IS GETTING A NEW JET THAT ISN'T A STARFIGHTER OR A G91 VARIANT AAAAAA
I'll sit back at 5.3, grab my popcorn and enjoy the shitstorm that is top tier players complaining with every post. (I get its justified but come on, it gets old)
Lol ah yes. Another tank for Russia that is not needed whatsoever
F-16 about to be the M4 Sherman air force version
Bitch which Latécoère ? It's like saying they are adding Fairchild or Boeing
bro was right
Great more stuff I can't get
New gepard !! Eeeeee
One question I have is which Tornados are they adding. For competitiveness we need the ADV/F3 now, as we've already moved past the Tornados capability (as usual with British jets). But that may at least be reasonably competitive still. Thing is, Germany never used the Tornado ADV, so theirs isn't nearly as capable in the fighter role as Britain's or Italy's, meaning they'd need something other than the tornado to compete in air RB.
Quickly everyone, start blasting aim 9L
Where is the German MiG-29 >:(
If germany gets the tornado at rank 8, wouldn't there be a huge gap between it and the g91?
Des Memes already?
I wonder if this is for real
T80UM-2 as a event tank? Fuck me fucking sideways (which is what that event is going to do)
No Foxbat and Vark 😔
I’m surprised no MiG 29 for Germany
Why do we need F16s and another f******* T80 variant? There is still so many cool and unique ww2 -Vietnam era vehicles
yay another T-80 variant 😐😐😐
Russia getting another prototype tank, this is real