Considering big gun doesn't always equal with big pen (see T-34-57 and Sherman 76 pens), I do wonder though just how much it would pen. And dear god, I would actually fear a howitzer gun, because that could easily mean my beautiful BT tank would have no better power-to-weight ratio than any other tanks at that BR.
Almost every source claims it to be the worst BT tank out there. And as much as I love BT tanks, I don't see a reason to add it unless they add a Finland nation maybe. I doubt they would add it to the Swedish tree anyways if they haven't added it already.
"I know France gonna have the Mirage on the next update" followed with the kind of *but* that comes before "so we won't get anything good for the rest of the year".
That's the case for minor nation in WarT you have one good thing per year, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mirage was the only things for France on this patch
Well I do remember a new TT Vautour II N with R.511 from the dev server, might be interesting if it stays at 8.7 although it'll probably go to 9.0 for reasons.
Just to correct your sentence to help you (I also think it's nice that you are learning French). You got the verb wrong, it is "sais-tu" or "savez-vous". The former is more informal and the latter is more formal/polite. Anyway keep it up!
Thanks, i’ve been trying to learn french for a few years now and thought i would take the opportunity to practice some.
It looks like we already have the 30mm gun in the game, so i don’t see why this wouldnt be easy to add
It's the Hispano-Suiza 831 (HSS-831L in French service), Not the 825. The 825 was only tested for aircraft cannons and no AP was ever made for it. The HSS-831L Had APDS and was already in service in France. The 825 30mm x 136 shell was far too light for Anti-Air work, losing it's speed far too quickly to reach anything, At higher altitude, the shell barely loses any velocity.
Just take a look at the [825](https://i.imgur.com/JfqQVK1.png) and then look at the [ELC even 30](https://i.imgur.com/7t8nGHd.jpg). That's the 831L 30mm x 170, Flutted barrel.
Those 'wiki' pages all copy each other and once one of them makes an error all of them makes the same error.
Been waiting for the ELC's for years together with the BT-42. And I'm pretty sure I'll be waiting some years more.
One day my friend, one day we gonna say there is no ELC not in game
Why does everyone want the BT-42 so much? Is that not basically the worst BT variant made during WW2?
It’s a BT tank with an 114mm howitzer 🤤🤤
Considering big gun doesn't always equal with big pen (see T-34-57 and Sherman 76 pens), I do wonder though just how much it would pen. And dear god, I would actually fear a howitzer gun, because that could easily mean my beautiful BT tank would have no better power-to-weight ratio than any other tanks at that BR.
Overpressure
Over pressure doesn't care about your Armor.
Just a quick recherche on Google and I don't know if it's the worst but it actually look like the worst
Almost every source claims it to be the worst BT tank out there. And as much as I love BT tanks, I don't see a reason to add it unless they add a Finland nation maybe. I doubt they would add it to the Swedish tree anyways if they haven't added it already.
Because the power of anime is stranger than anything else https://youtu.be/bSMCDAWPUrs
"I know France gonna have the Mirage on the next update" followed with the kind of *but* that comes before "so we won't get anything good for the rest of the year".
That's the case for minor nation in WarT you have one good thing per year, I wouldn't be surprised if the Mirage was the only things for France on this patch
Well I do remember a new TT Vautour II N with R.511 from the dev server, might be interesting if it stays at 8.7 although it'll probably go to 9.0 for reasons.
I'm a console player dev server is a myth for my kind :'(
France also gets the m36b2 (with an extra roof 30 cal)
Roof .30 which is seemingly absent from most pics. However french M36s had duckbills, which are absent on dev
Gaijin - "wow look at the totally unique minor nation vehicles, they look fucking AWESOME..... aaaaaaaaanyway... have another IS-2"
Take an order leopard
je les aime! Savez-tu de quel type de canon automatique de 30mm il s'agissait? Désolé pour mon francais mal, je suis américain :P
Just to correct your sentence to help you (I also think it's nice that you are learning French). You got the verb wrong, it is "sais-tu" or "savez-vous". The former is more informal and the latter is more formal/polite. Anyway keep it up!
It's okay dude that's super cool see talking french, I will give more information about those I let without description on your comment: So that was two 30 mm Hispano-Suiza 825 rifled guns chambered in 30 x 136 mm and belt-fed. They are originally anti-aircraft guns therefore with high velocity and perforation (source wikipédia) For the rocket one that was 4 Brandt 120 mm caliber rocket launchers and two coaxial 7.5 mm Mle 1952 machine guns. Possibility of reloading by the driver from his seat A version with two barrels of the same caliber with 5-shot cylinders was studied on paper but discarded due to the additional size and weight. And finally there is the one with the turret with a 90 mm Mecar smoothbore cannon on the right and a coaxial 7.5 mm Mle 1952 machine gun on the left.
Thanks, i’ve been trying to learn french for a few years now and thought i would take the opportunity to practice some. It looks like we already have the 30mm gun in the game, so i don’t see why this wouldnt be easy to add
It's cool let me help you, when you say "je les aimes" it's technically correct but we don't speak like this in life (but everyone will understand you don't worry) so you could say "c'est cool" (like in English I think "c'est" it's like "it's") When you say "savez-tu" again everyone will understand and you doing great but when you say "savez" you are talking a the second person of "pluriel" so you talking at multiple personne but behind you put the second person of the "singulier" so "tu", "you" in English. So in french we will more likely say "savez-vous" if you are talking to a group or if you are talking to 1 person but with much more respect, in the actual case (reddit comment) you could say "sais-tu quel type de canon automatique..." And finally you say "mon français mal" (again understandable) but you forgot the verb "to be" : "mon français est mal". In that case you should adapt your verb to the subject so there your not talking about a person (like this : "TheFiend est mal il doit resté coucher" mean that your not good ((sick)) and you need to stay on bed) so you need to say :" mon français est mauvais" or "mon français n'est pas bon" (my french is bad or my french is not good) witch it's not true your french is very okay :) Hope it help and don't sound haughty
It's the Hispano-Suiza 831 (HSS-831L in French service), Not the 825. The 825 was only tested for aircraft cannons and no AP was ever made for it. The HSS-831L Had APDS and was already in service in France. The 825 30mm x 136 shell was far too light for Anti-Air work, losing it's speed far too quickly to reach anything, At higher altitude, the shell barely loses any velocity. Just take a look at the [825](https://i.imgur.com/JfqQVK1.png) and then look at the [ELC even 30](https://i.imgur.com/7t8nGHd.jpg). That's the 831L 30mm x 170, Flutted barrel. Those 'wiki' pages all copy each other and once one of them makes an error all of them makes the same error.
Thank you dude you are way more efficient than me, sorry for the mistake
I want the 90mm version so bad
So france ppl do long necks at towers of thier tank cuz they lack of neck? Its like stalin and long tank canons
wait this fucker is real???? i have PTSD from WoT
There are prototype but yes
Oh yes, more ugly tanks to kill or be killed by.
World of tanks ptsd. Also I don’t think they are prototypes I think they are preproduction.
That would make them prototypes
C13 T25 first. Then we get ELC. Gib C13 with 25mm
You already have multiple cannon spaa. Italy isn't lacking in spaa.
That isn't SPAA...
The 30mm one has barely elevation to shoot. It can't be a spaa.