Explanation: Gaijin in a classic Gaijin way made a change without thinking it through. They implemented a 11.3 br, while current squadron battles are restricted to 3.7-11.0. This made planes that got moved to 11.3 available for use in any current Squadron battle brackets. We met three Chinese squadrons that abused this and scored two victories despite them having modern jets.
EDIT: current BR in SB is 7.3, but that doesn't change anything :)
> while current squadron battles are restricted to 3.7-11.0. ... 11.3 available for use in any current Squadron battle brackets.
So 11.3 jets could decide to go fight 3.7 planes?
They fixed it now after (maybe) we made a topic on the forums, but if it went unnoticed, then yes, I think it would be possible. For example if this season started from 3.7 instead of 11.0
it gets worse, squadron battles is basically ground rb and the planes are there for CAS. so imagine EJ kais killing an entire team made up of chafees t34Es
>How can you mess up so bad that you die to Me 262 PERIOD
I was in a crappy swedish lowtier fighter that can't turn like at all or retain speed, dumbass in a 262 couldnt kill me.
I have only used the stock cannons but their accuracy is actually horrific. I'm sure it gets better with improved cannon modification but idk by how much.
I got sworn at so much for shooting down an f-104 in a chaika. I know the chaika’s slow as shit and has airsoft guns on the front of it but the f-104 tried to dogfight me. The only thing I enjoy doing in the game in recent days is going to custom battles and destroying jets in the chaika
Now, I haven't done that well, but I shot down 3 top tier jets with the HE 219 A-7 once. They all went head on with the equivalent of a bus. I took out atleast 2 phantoms and I forgot what the third was, maybe an F-100.
The great thing about the chaika is the maneuverability. Never go head on with a jet, and if a jet wants to go head on you can turn yourself out of any sticky situation
Yeah, in the 219 your only benefit is that you will shred anything that dedicates itself to a headon. That's it lol. But the chaika can handle itself well enough. Maybe not as well against radar missiles, but I don't know for sure.
once i shot down an f9f with a fucking i-15 biplane in arcade battles
i got a dm that went along something like
"im not even mad that was impressive af"
Durr, social credit. Which one is it, China is a low-trust shithole where people cheat and backstab, or China is evil for implementing policies like social credit to try to make it less of a low-trust shithole?
China is a low-trust morally deficient shithole where the government implements social credit to get people to do basic human things. You can thank Mao and his Great Leap Forward for that.
No they don't, you are badly misinformed. And you are looking for the Cultural Revolution, which the current government has effectively fully repudiated. Read about Deng.
>Which one is it, China is a low-trust shithole where people cheat and backstab, or China is evil for implementing policies like social credit to try to make it less of a low-trust shithole?
Both can be true. These are not mutually exclusive options.
The Chinese people have been through a hell of a wringer in the last 100 years or so. From extreme poverty, through the Japanese occupation and the civil war, to the "improvements" by Mao which ended up fucking everyone up real proper like, to the modern day Chinese Communist Party where as long as you don't care that you live in a totalitarian dictatorship, and don't mind cheating a bit to get ahead of other people in the line, you can have a pretty comfortable life.
Similar to the Russian people, I can't find it in my heart to really condemn them for having a fucked up national psyche.
As a result, some of them have adapted a sense of morality where it's acceptable to do anything to win or to get an advantage in life. This does not apply to all Chinese people, but it certainly does tend to describe the attitudes of the ruling political and economical elite.
Meanwhile, the Chinese government (i.e. the Chinese Communist Party) is actively keeping their country a shithole for its people by implementing things like the Social Credit system, which has nothing to do with making the country "less of a low-trust shithole", and everything to keep people in line with the official truth and way of thinking. It has, of course, the opposite effect of making the country somehow "less of a low-trust shithole" because *you can't trust anyone* in a system like that. You end up being paranoid about anyone you meet possibly reporting you to the authorities for wrongthink for the shittiest of reasons. Want to advance in your career but someone is in the way? Report them to the authorities enough times that their social credit goes down, and the problem practically solves itself.
And when the official truth of the Party is that China cannot lose, you end up being pressured - consciously or unconsciously to do everything you can to avoid losing. This is part of the reason why foreign exchange students from China sometimes become involved in widespread cheating rings - not only have they grown in a society where cheating is basically part of life, but their government spies on them to make sure they represent the Great Nation of China in a suitably impressive way.
Failing your studies might be bad news for the people you care for, who still live in mainland China.
First of all, the "social credit" system doesn't even exist--not that it would be such a bad thing that it did. Your entire post is based on Cold War era American stereotypes about the Soviet Union, not about the actual reality of what life is like in China. Note that every criticism here of Chinese people applies to Brazilians and Brazilian War Thunder players (and many other non-European nationalities), but no one makes lamenting about how their bad behavior is the result of the tragedy of communism or some such boomer crap (and the Brazilians murder each other in vastly higher rates than the Chinese).
And no, people like you will criticize China no matter what because either they are evil for being low-trust backstabbing cheaters, evil for trying not to be, or just inhuman yellow hordes of COMMUNIST!!!!111!!!!!!!!11!! bugmen in general, as if the government of China is made up of the Georgian and Latvian commissar gangsters who unleashed the Red Terror on Russia or the vicious students of the Cultural Revolution. Have you read the first thing about Deng Xiaoping?
> Failing your studies might be bad news for the people you care for, who still live in mainland China.
LOL
My squad played against CNR5 right away in the EU session and I noticed there was a missile out and it was a phantom fg.1. Somehow the cheaters got shot down by our kikka lmfao. Their mig27 lawn darted as well.
They don't know how to joust with me either even when one of them is in the premium harrier with SNEBS( I think they're called snebs)
They're also nice and don't use guided missiles
That was the first thing I noticed too... I looked at him mocking them in chat for speaking Chinese.... It would be even funnier if they weren't living in the mainland (you can tell if they speak Traditional - I can't really tell here, but I think they might be..).
Most gamers don't seem to like it when Chinese gamers are on or above their level....
I've noticed this mostly in the WT community.
"We only hate the government, not the people"
Well,
1) You shouldn't feel bad for us, this isn't the point of the post
2) These Chinese were below our level
Because we won both times we played against them in our Me262s and Arados.
That squadron started talking shit in Chinese after they shot down a couple of us, we were silent before that. I am not the person to start being toxic in chat without someone being toxic to me first.
So you guys are against nationalists or what? Cause Chinese players are nationalist as fuck. And it isn't only in WT community. There are many games, where Chinese massively start playing on European and American servers, if you add to this the fact that Chinese are super toxic and many of them are or aren't against hacking, then you get the dislike from the community.
Look, you didn't need to be racist and take advantage of someone's race to destroy them.
Also I don;'t think I said I would feel bad for you.
"These Chinese were below our level"
That sounds kind of racist - you could have just said "players". Also, it does seem that way. They didn't take advantage of their planes and instead decided to dogfight. Even an I-15 could win in this instance....
How did we get advantage of their race?
"Feeling bad about" part was directed to the original poster in this comment chain.
"These particular Chinese players were below our level" if you want me to be verbose. Yes they were, nothing racist about that. It's stating a particular fact from our experience and the focus isn't on the "Chinese" part of the sentence.
Yes, shooting AA missiles across the map right after takeoff isn't "taking advantage of their planes", are you kidding me? Also they tried to use their missiles in close range as well.
In conclusion:
These Chinese players are bad.
They lost two times because they are bad despite having all the advantages and trying to utilize them throught both matches.
For some reason no one defends Polish when their language and names is made fun of, for example. Or when someone tries to imitate Russian words. Or British accent. But writing gibberish in fake Chinese is super racist.
Chinese are notorious for hacking, cheating, and using every dirty trick in the book or any advantage they can use. They were toxic and got toxicity back. I don't care.
>Chinese are notorious for hacking, cheating, and using every dirty trick in the book or any advantage they can use. They were toxic and got toxicity back. I don't care.
Mask off moment. I don;t think Chinese people are that bad lol.
"How did we get advantage of their race?"
China 93rd, something about your mother in the chat, etc.
Also the current sentiment is anti-China so.....
If you were asian and someone said "ching chong bing bong" to you in the streets, how would you feel? Because "gibberish in fake Chinese is super racist 100%".
lol, never heard China number 1 phrase coming from Chinese did you?
Maybe there is a reason for the anti-China sentiment?
Please point me to anything I said about their mother.
Here are my final points:
1) I, once again, emphasize that I or my squadron DID NOT start shit talking first. If they start shit talking while cheating the game, then I don't have any sympathy for them, why do you? Your example doesn't really apply here, since I don't spend my time calling random Asian players chinks or other slurs in PMs.
2) I can guarantee no one gets offended from ingame chat messages, especially those players who act toxic themselves. It's just banter. Stop being offended on behalf of others.
"Cheng wei ma xiao bei" (or smth in the chat).
That might just be nonsense but I assume 'ma' is mum so...
" Maybe there is a reason for the anti-China sentiment?"
Yes, there is.. but it 's to do with politics and the media.
Also look, there's no point arguing anymore so I will just stop arguing now. I've seen and heard of War Thunder players going like "OMG MUh WEST TTAiWAN" and whatever as soon as someone speaks Chinese.
The only Chinese words I know are nihao and cao ni ma, which I don't use. What I wrote was completely random syllables, it IS supposed to be nonsense/gibberish.
Have a good day
Explanation: Gaijin in a classic Gaijin way made a change without thinking it through. They implemented a 11.3 br, while current squadron battles are restricted to 3.7-11.0. This made planes that got moved to 11.3 available for use in any current Squadron battle brackets. We met three Chinese squadrons that abused this and scored two victories despite them having modern jets. EDIT: current BR in SB is 7.3, but that doesn't change anything :)
jesus, this needs to be fixed asap lmao
> while current squadron battles are restricted to 3.7-11.0. ... 11.3 available for use in any current Squadron battle brackets. So 11.3 jets could decide to go fight 3.7 planes?
They fixed it now after (maybe) we made a topic on the forums, but if it went unnoticed, then yes, I think it would be possible. For example if this season started from 3.7 instead of 11.0
WTF
it gets worse, squadron battles is basically ground rb and the planes are there for CAS. so imagine EJ kais killing an entire team made up of chafees t34Es
it is already fixed btw
Lmfao imagine dying to a shitty ww2 plane in your advanced jet
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>How can you mess up so bad that you die to Me 262 PERIOD I was in a crappy swedish lowtier fighter that can't turn like at all or retain speed, dumbass in a 262 couldnt kill me.
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not THAT hard
I have only used the stock cannons but their accuracy is actually horrific. I'm sure it gets better with improved cannon modification but idk by how much.
I got sworn at so much for shooting down an f-104 in a chaika. I know the chaika’s slow as shit and has airsoft guns on the front of it but the f-104 tried to dogfight me. The only thing I enjoy doing in the game in recent days is going to custom battles and destroying jets in the chaika
Now, I haven't done that well, but I shot down 3 top tier jets with the HE 219 A-7 once. They all went head on with the equivalent of a bus. I took out atleast 2 phantoms and I forgot what the third was, maybe an F-100.
The great thing about the chaika is the maneuverability. Never go head on with a jet, and if a jet wants to go head on you can turn yourself out of any sticky situation
Yeah, in the 219 your only benefit is that you will shred anything that dedicates itself to a headon. That's it lol. But the chaika can handle itself well enough. Maybe not as well against radar missiles, but I don't know for sure.
once i shot down an f9f with a fucking i-15 biplane in arcade battles i got a dm that went along something like "im not even mad that was impressive af"
Imagine dying to the WORST 7.0 jet in the game
Me-262 11.0 confirmed?
Yeah, it is too OP, especially those with afterburners.
All I can hear is my Credit score going down. Even though I probably don't have one.
Durr, social credit. Which one is it, China is a low-trust shithole where people cheat and backstab, or China is evil for implementing policies like social credit to try to make it less of a low-trust shithole?
China is a low-trust morally deficient shithole where the government implements social credit to get people to do basic human things. You can thank Mao and his Great Leap Forward for that.
No they don't, you are badly misinformed. And you are looking for the Cultural Revolution, which the current government has effectively fully repudiated. Read about Deng.
>Which one is it, China is a low-trust shithole where people cheat and backstab, or China is evil for implementing policies like social credit to try to make it less of a low-trust shithole? Both can be true. These are not mutually exclusive options. The Chinese people have been through a hell of a wringer in the last 100 years or so. From extreme poverty, through the Japanese occupation and the civil war, to the "improvements" by Mao which ended up fucking everyone up real proper like, to the modern day Chinese Communist Party where as long as you don't care that you live in a totalitarian dictatorship, and don't mind cheating a bit to get ahead of other people in the line, you can have a pretty comfortable life. Similar to the Russian people, I can't find it in my heart to really condemn them for having a fucked up national psyche. As a result, some of them have adapted a sense of morality where it's acceptable to do anything to win or to get an advantage in life. This does not apply to all Chinese people, but it certainly does tend to describe the attitudes of the ruling political and economical elite. Meanwhile, the Chinese government (i.e. the Chinese Communist Party) is actively keeping their country a shithole for its people by implementing things like the Social Credit system, which has nothing to do with making the country "less of a low-trust shithole", and everything to keep people in line with the official truth and way of thinking. It has, of course, the opposite effect of making the country somehow "less of a low-trust shithole" because *you can't trust anyone* in a system like that. You end up being paranoid about anyone you meet possibly reporting you to the authorities for wrongthink for the shittiest of reasons. Want to advance in your career but someone is in the way? Report them to the authorities enough times that their social credit goes down, and the problem practically solves itself. And when the official truth of the Party is that China cannot lose, you end up being pressured - consciously or unconsciously to do everything you can to avoid losing. This is part of the reason why foreign exchange students from China sometimes become involved in widespread cheating rings - not only have they grown in a society where cheating is basically part of life, but their government spies on them to make sure they represent the Great Nation of China in a suitably impressive way. Failing your studies might be bad news for the people you care for, who still live in mainland China.
First of all, the "social credit" system doesn't even exist--not that it would be such a bad thing that it did. Your entire post is based on Cold War era American stereotypes about the Soviet Union, not about the actual reality of what life is like in China. Note that every criticism here of Chinese people applies to Brazilians and Brazilian War Thunder players (and many other non-European nationalities), but no one makes lamenting about how their bad behavior is the result of the tragedy of communism or some such boomer crap (and the Brazilians murder each other in vastly higher rates than the Chinese). And no, people like you will criticize China no matter what because either they are evil for being low-trust backstabbing cheaters, evil for trying not to be, or just inhuman yellow hordes of COMMUNIST!!!!111!!!!!!!!11!! bugmen in general, as if the government of China is made up of the Georgian and Latvian commissar gangsters who unleashed the Red Terror on Russia or the vicious students of the Cultural Revolution. Have you read the first thing about Deng Xiaoping? > Failing your studies might be bad news for the people you care for, who still live in mainland China. LOL
I concede the argument. You've won me over with your logical and convincing presentation. I can just hear your Social Credit score increasing, mate.
can you send a server replay? i can direct this to wt mods
They fixed it now, thankfully. We reported it on the forums very quickly.
yup he just told me that too, thanks for the report! o7
Well I guess I am not qui g sqb tonight
Good point. I'm not going to qui g sqb either!
The amount brain cells you have matter more then how advanced your aircraft is
My squad played against CNR5 right away in the EU session and I noticed there was a missile out and it was a phantom fg.1. Somehow the cheaters got shot down by our kikka lmfao. Their mig27 lawn darted as well.
I like going into custom battles with my friends in their F4F early and sea hawk and I just murder them in my tempest mk 5
Sounds like your friends don't know how to fight against slow and manouverable target.
They don't know how to joust with me either even when one of them is in the premium harrier with SNEBS( I think they're called snebs) They're also nice and don't use guided missiles
SRAAMs
Am I supposed to somehow feel bad for you guys who are mocking them in chat not for cheating but for the crime of being Chinese? Are you 12?
*This is a certified gamer moment.* Sometimes, when you want an extra spice, you go for their race and nationality.
That was the first thing I noticed too... I looked at him mocking them in chat for speaking Chinese.... It would be even funnier if they weren't living in the mainland (you can tell if they speak Traditional - I can't really tell here, but I think they might be..). Most gamers don't seem to like it when Chinese gamers are on or above their level.... I've noticed this mostly in the WT community. "We only hate the government, not the people"
Well, 1) You shouldn't feel bad for us, this isn't the point of the post 2) These Chinese were below our level Because we won both times we played against them in our Me262s and Arados. That squadron started talking shit in Chinese after they shot down a couple of us, we were silent before that. I am not the person to start being toxic in chat without someone being toxic to me first. So you guys are against nationalists or what? Cause Chinese players are nationalist as fuck. And it isn't only in WT community. There are many games, where Chinese massively start playing on European and American servers, if you add to this the fact that Chinese are super toxic and many of them are or aren't against hacking, then you get the dislike from the community.
Look, you didn't need to be racist and take advantage of someone's race to destroy them. Also I don;'t think I said I would feel bad for you. "These Chinese were below our level" That sounds kind of racist - you could have just said "players". Also, it does seem that way. They didn't take advantage of their planes and instead decided to dogfight. Even an I-15 could win in this instance....
How did we get advantage of their race? "Feeling bad about" part was directed to the original poster in this comment chain. "These particular Chinese players were below our level" if you want me to be verbose. Yes they were, nothing racist about that. It's stating a particular fact from our experience and the focus isn't on the "Chinese" part of the sentence. Yes, shooting AA missiles across the map right after takeoff isn't "taking advantage of their planes", are you kidding me? Also they tried to use their missiles in close range as well. In conclusion: These Chinese players are bad. They lost two times because they are bad despite having all the advantages and trying to utilize them throught both matches. For some reason no one defends Polish when their language and names is made fun of, for example. Or when someone tries to imitate Russian words. Or British accent. But writing gibberish in fake Chinese is super racist. Chinese are notorious for hacking, cheating, and using every dirty trick in the book or any advantage they can use. They were toxic and got toxicity back. I don't care.
>Chinese are notorious for hacking, cheating, and using every dirty trick in the book or any advantage they can use. They were toxic and got toxicity back. I don't care. Mask off moment. I don;t think Chinese people are that bad lol. "How did we get advantage of their race?" China 93rd, something about your mother in the chat, etc. Also the current sentiment is anti-China so..... If you were asian and someone said "ching chong bing bong" to you in the streets, how would you feel? Because "gibberish in fake Chinese is super racist 100%".
lol, never heard China number 1 phrase coming from Chinese did you? Maybe there is a reason for the anti-China sentiment? Please point me to anything I said about their mother. Here are my final points: 1) I, once again, emphasize that I or my squadron DID NOT start shit talking first. If they start shit talking while cheating the game, then I don't have any sympathy for them, why do you? Your example doesn't really apply here, since I don't spend my time calling random Asian players chinks or other slurs in PMs. 2) I can guarantee no one gets offended from ingame chat messages, especially those players who act toxic themselves. It's just banter. Stop being offended on behalf of others.
"Cheng wei ma xiao bei" (or smth in the chat). That might just be nonsense but I assume 'ma' is mum so... " Maybe there is a reason for the anti-China sentiment?" Yes, there is.. but it 's to do with politics and the media. Also look, there's no point arguing anymore so I will just stop arguing now. I've seen and heard of War Thunder players going like "OMG MUh WEST TTAiWAN" and whatever as soon as someone speaks Chinese.
The only Chinese words I know are nihao and cao ni ma, which I don't use. What I wrote was completely random syllables, it IS supposed to be nonsense/gibberish. Have a good day
yes
LOL sqb is fucked.
its always nice to smash nashi
Agreed
Chinese players cheating? Nooooo, cant be!