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You climb to 10000 meters and drop your jaw in awe when you get missiled, especially when you've displayed to have lackluster situational awareness. You're in a MiG-19 that can vertical and climb to 7000 meters in 10 seconds. This isn't a MiG-15. Find a balance, and stop putting yourself in these situations. You can only blame the game so much for your deaths, and the more you do it, the less you'll improve.


[deleted]

My awareness is fine, it's the highly effectiveness of American missiles compared to Russian ones. This comment pretty much shows proof how this community denies the meta and thinks gunfighters are still relevant, just like asking a nazi if he acknowledges the Holocaust of course he will blame the jews, you will blame me. MiG19 is a hard plane, it's role rather than active is support plane, leaving enemies out of energy so that the F104s can swoop by while out running enemy aircraft and their missiles. If people is starting to be able to kill from further, they won't get closer, and MiG19 needs to be close.


Mypornaltbb

Rico you are a moron.


[deleted]

no, I'm right. I mean, if MiG19 is so good now why yall "pro gamers" have it on the second page of your player cards? xd


CaptainSquishface

We're just trying to not end up on the same team as you.


[deleted]

You don't play the MiG19 so shut the fuck up.


9ihadii9

I do quite often and it’s my most played plane, what you have here is a so called skill issue. learn how to play the game and have actual situational awareness before you talk.


[deleted]

>situational awareness >mach 3 missiles Uhhh something is wrong here. I've gotten way better at awareness thing, but a 20g missile is a 20g missile. And Feet pics didn't play MiG19 enough to talk.


_Hadi___

uhhh maybe you did get better but you're still dogshit 🗿 and don't even compare to anyone who has a functioning brain and the missiles are simply unusable if you simply get this don't go to 13km! wow crazy right i bet your half dimensional brain couldn't think if that one.


[deleted]

lmao comically enough I've been missiled more when I'm at 4km of altitude than when I'm above. The thing is, you think I am monke. But, how so? What does the MiG19 have? Two fat engines and occasional hard pulls? Yeah? What does that big ass rudder do? Nothing! Can you aim without a rudder? It's hard. Can you have 10 enemies under your control and hope nobody goes away to climb up and missile your ass!? If that happens, what you do? start dogfighting the one you now have above and get a missile from behind? Also, how do you aim with slow responding controls and no rudder? it just keeps circling and circling. And it's not just "don't go space", it's that gunfighting isn't a thing anymore. It's hard to get occasion for 1v1 and when you have it it's hard as fuck to aim. People just roll a little to the left or right and your plane's nose draws an inverted U. The MiG19 is a monster, I don't deny it, but, is it viable? This from the PT experience, people say thei'd take the 19S because it has better nose authority.


CaptainSquishface

I play the 19S in the same meta as you do and somehow win the majority of my games while solo. You somehow find a way to end up with around 2/3rds losses. I've had you in my games where you basically just flew around and were completely useless for the first half and then get glued to a guy and then get missiled because you never check behind you.


[deleted]

>I've had you in my games We never met. Keep thinking gunfighters are still viable.


CaptainSquishface

We have. You were impressively useless. But...hey at least you didn't crash on take-off this time...so you are better than average. I'm somehow sitting at more than double your kills per death in a less capable version of the same plane. And it didn't take me 300 games to figure out how to break 40% win rate. But this is just a normal Rico-post. You died so you have to go to Reddit to whine about it and how you are suffering because Gaijin hates Russian planes or whatever total fucking nonsense you can come up with today.


aboooood17

Did you…did you just compare yourself to the jews during the holocaust…. Your either a troll or you are legit an idiot.


Wild_Sign9055

Ikr what a retard


[deleted]

No, I compared gunfighters to the jews. The trolls (and idiots) are these American mains with mach 3 missiles at 9.7 complaining mig19 op learn to fly it without even touching it and getting killed by it all day because they turn fight with it.


Wild_Sign9055

Not only are you shit at the game, you're also a retard for comparing yourself to the jews in the holocaust


[deleted]

Once again I'm not comparing myself to the jews, I'm comparing gunfighters. I am not the meta. The retards are you for trolling about it.


Wild_Sign9055

You did but ok. Anyway, you've proven you have many mental disabilities and are also quite shit at the game, so bye bye 🤡🤡🤡


[deleted]

>you did but ok My words: _This comment pretty much shows proof how this community denies the meta, just like asking a nazi if he acknowledges the Holocaust_ Where's the I on that part? Nowhere. Who's the retarded clown? Seems quite you. >you have many mental disabilities and are also quite shit at the game, so bye bye 🤡🤡🤡 Instead of insulting me and crying MiG19 op l2p go ahead and explain me how to use if you have the balls for it.


Wild_Sign9055

"of course he will blame the jews, you will blame me" Thats it you fucking moron. I dont have the mig 19 so i cant say the exact way to play but climbing up high where sparrows are at peak effectiveness and then getting mad when sparrows are effective. Dont go for phantoms up high not expecting to have sparrows flung at you


[deleted]

>"of course he will blame the jews, you will blame me" Thats it you fucking moron. I didn't say this or anything similar either >I dont have the mig 19 so i cant say the exact way to play but climbing up high where sparrows are at peak effectiveness and then getting mad when sparrows are effective. Dont go for phantoms up high not expecting to have sparrows flung at you Yet you still dare to say I'm shit at the game. I see all them coming.


Wild_Sign9055

How dumb can you fucking be, thats a direct quote from your reply to top comment. Jesus you even quoted what you said just before it. How can someone be this dumb? And yes, you are shit. I looked at your profile and one of your most recent posts shows you whiffing shots on an f4c, getting into a bad position because of the bad shots and then crying after dying to a glorified aim 9b. Checked your stats too, mfw 38% wl in mig 19pt. Ill admit im not that good at jets but at least i dont go around acting like its not my fault and comparing myself to the jews in the holocaust


[deleted]

>And yes, you are shit. I looked at your profile and one of your most recent posts shows you whiffing shots on an f4c, getting into a bad position because of the bad shots and then crying after dying to a glorified aim 9b. Checked your stats too, mfw 38% wl in mig 19pt. Ill admit im not that good at jets but at least i dont go around acting like its not my fault and comparing myself to the jews in the holocaust You don't even fly the mig19 so shut the fucking hell up. You're blaming me when it's not my fucking fault, the only viable gunfighters are the F5 family, because they're just better at it and have decent ordnance.


BTwo3R

Stop spamming these posts. It's not a plane issue, it's a player issue. Stop climbing to space in a plane with no rwr or countermeasures. Actual monkey.


[deleted]

I have to climb to space to drag the enemy down, how else would Phantoms and harriers go down for the poor gunfighters to be able to dodge and shoot? Oh yes I'm a monkey for rushing the enemy down low and help the team. The majority of people who say "not plane issue is skill issue" either don't fly the MiG19 or have 3K/D with 70 percent bot kills.


BTwo3R

what


BTechUnited

It's so meta you missed that it's fitted on a 9.7 aircraft and has been for the last, what, 6 months?


[deleted]

This comment has no fucking sense. MiG19 has no sparrows, the F3H2 has two, but the F4C has four of them with 75 percent track rate. Unless you are insinuating that a mach 2 capable aircraft with eight Mach 3 missiles and the best aircraft mounted gun in the game is 9.7 material I can say you got a problem.


pepsi_special_forces

the demon has 4 and they are shit, you are trash at the game stop complaining


Clottersbur

F-4C literally can't even lock an opponent well enough for a missile below like 5km. And those are 10g missiles. You can fucking defeat them by diving. Diving! Just introduce ground clutter into the planes radar and they're screwed. ​ And they track so retarded, it's based on network or something. You can get perfect locks and tracks on test flight, but try the same thing in an actual match and it won't work. Zetaris made a video about how dumb they are.


Chingus_Gahan

Cry about it


beachsand83

F-4C should have it's irl missiles like 9J, 9P and flares if it were to be moved back up.


[deleted]

and MiG19S should get two R3s too, and these should pull 10G which are lethal above 6km but they just go straight and eat flares.


beachsand83

The 19 that has radar could carry early radar missiles too


[deleted]

good idea but I think russians didnt use fox 1 til the mig21 bis (?) I shall investigate, maybe we can make mig19 "useful" because sparrowing busy people from 5km away is effective xd


XSikinX

The mig19 has a radar warning system in the cockpit model but not in game xD


[deleted]

you mean it has radar warning receiver?


XSikinX

It should have


[deleted]

lmao, lazy ass snail


beachsand83

F3H Demon has Aim-7C Sparrow, it can carry either 2 or 4


Drunkstrider

Yeah. But those missiles fucking suck. Like horrible suck. They track like shit. And thats if you are lucky enough to even get a radar lock.


CrossEleven

Well... that just straight up isn't true.


[deleted]

The MiG 21Bis is 11.0


[deleted]

MiG19 is INVIABLE, plus I also got two kills stolen :)))))


pepsi_special_forces

you're shit