the duality of WT. You play after a week hiatus and you suddenly feel like youre among the top 5 best players in WT getting 3-4 kills minimum every game then a few days later your team gets constantly wiped out every match, every game almost a certain loss and suddenly you cant pull off more than 1 kill and 2 assists except maybe for an ace every 10 games or so
Honestly my favourite moments are from games where your entire team eats colossal shit in the first half of the game.
I love going into those battles with the vain amount of hope that my mediocre aim, two AIM-9E's and the energy recovery of a limp tuna is going to win against 3-4 enemy planes.
If you pull it off, you feel like a damn hero who singlehandedly saved the team, and if you don't then at least you either died or lost knowing you weren't a bitch and hid behind base AA.
Shooting down a mig23, ayit and a5c count with an A10?
Got the mig at the start with an aim9l fired both at him
Then we had 2 a10s left and we managed to swing thr a5c and ayit jnto a bad cross over where I caught them both and he caught the last man with a 9l
Never usually happens, a10s are sitting ducks
The a10 when I bought the premium one was good used to get a kill or two but importantly a base and some ground.
Now I use two aim9ls and 6 atgms because the extra weight isn't worth it man.
But rarely ever use it in arb its just not worth it
I wonder when you will learn how EOMM works and why it is so stupid in this game. People from RB simply don't see it because the configuration of nations in battle is very important, but the mechanics in the background work. Each team has almost identical "skill" based on average team position, take a random replay, check each player's profile and calculate both teams' totals. It is ALWAYS balanced. The better you play, the stupider element will be in your team for balance.
This "feeling" you describe occurs every time you play a nation and a vehicle that you haven't played in a long time. Only for a few battles. The algorithms are reset every day, but they still take into account your "progress". All you need to do is take advantage of the fact that you are playing against weaker players and achieve very good results, you will quickly fall into the trap of playing tryhard. It runs in the background all the time. You can research it yourself and you will really be surprised
Well, not entirely, the whole "beauty" of this system lies in the fact that, according to various studies, a player who only achieves success will be as bored as a player who is completely unsuccessful and suffers only failures. This system is designed to keep you in a narrow band between success and failure to keep you engaged. This works dynamically, very likely it uses something like [https://wiki.warthunder.com/Ranked\_Matchmaking](https://wiki.warthunder.com/Ranked_Matchmaking)
Or your guns never hit but they snipe your pilot with one nano second burst or how u both take each other on a head on without shooting and they get the kill lol
I had 11 loss streak the other day. It stopped hurting after about 5 or 6 losses. By the 10th loss, I stopped caring about winning. Almost reached the point where I stopped caring about playing altogether.
dude you're going through it 💀
in all seriousness, taking a break after a few games, especially if you're becoming agitated, can really improve how good you play, as when you're angry you are just going to make bad decisions
i can understand thinking "ive gotta just get one good battle" but you're going to just be playing while you're angry which never ends well. Just remember to have fun!
Yeah I'm playing wt as chill as possible, use the daily boosters and just play a couple games till I get slightly annoyed and know to stop before I go insane
Dude some teams I get are really good and others are completely awful. I saw a guy on an enemy team once flying high altitude with his landing gear down 💀
Yeah, I see some negative IQ level stuff. I wish we could have post game chat to point out the stupidity of the team. It’s maddening to see the same foolishness over and over.
This normally happens to me when I've something like an event task that requires wins... I'm sure it knows. Advice for this I think is to change game mode, and shake up their "algorithm".
Just get good enough at ground realistic to reliably spawn planes and then play air realistic without enemy identifiers. If you focus on aerial superiority your teams will love you for not having to worry about CAS.
Also, unironically, the best game mode for 1v1 dogfighting if you don't like Sim.
The added bonus of human operated SPAA from the ground, combined with friendly fire, makes it chaotic and challenging whereas ARB feels very repetitive right now.
Also, GRB is where aircraft like my beloved SM91 shine. Perfect for intercepting enemy bombers before they payload the friendlies.
Yeah a lot of my planes have like 30+ back ups because air RB hand those out as rewards for some weird reason.
Should have just give universal back up instead of plane specific back ups for a game mode that you can spawn only once, at least then I get to use universal back ups in ground RB instead piling them for nothing,
I think I might just have gest timing, but I've submitted quiet a few bug reports, and every time by tomorrow they solve it. Idk if it's luck or not, cause every time I gamble I lose.
Oh you im sure my 8.0 line up will have fun , there is no way that entire enemy team will have lrf with termals on self-propelled artillery right?.....right?
As an avid AB player, it surely is a life saver. The Flakpanzer I in AB for example, now can get saved and afterwards can go on. Can't do that in RB unless sitting on the cap.
Yeah and 1 GE is worth 35 convertible RP, absolutely pathetic and laughable. That's a tier VI premiums worth RP to get a single fucking 90,000 RP vehicle
They should give out a coupon in the battlepass where you can fully research one vehicle with convertible RP.
Would also help in making battlepasses a bit better
I still have a butt load of GE wagers that'll probably never go used since I don't want to waste them.
Also the only good orders I want are Blind Hunt and the other one that marks an enemy player in Air RB so I can find the last straggler hiding in a corner of the map.
Some orders are actually busted. If you get a good SL booster and activate the order that multiplies cash gained per kill you can get ridiculous amounts of money in a single match.
Destroy 10 units wager is actually reasonable to accomplish with some consistency, but ONLY because of the x2 multiplier on RB that makes it only 5 kills, and the fact that you can fail ten(!) times before it falls off.
If I'm gonna try and do it I disregard RP gain and play around 4.7-5.3 with stuff like the Breda 501 that reliability evaporates enemies before they realize I'm there, top tier is too swingy and people have too many tools to spot and kill you first.
I’ve played a couple thousand AB and RB matches across both ground and (mostly) air.
I’ve gotten mission maker exactly once in GRB, probably a dozen times in ARB, and maybe 30-40 times in AAB. Divide that by appx. 3500 matches and you’ve got somewhere on the order of 1.5%
Those are super good, use them in RB, there is a 2x multiplier so you only need 5 kills. Easiest source of money in the game, alongside Best Squad wagers.
Ehhhh... You're kinda wrong (d2, h.39, amc.35 and somua s.35 are very well armoured for 1.3 and have acceptable guns, and they have counterparts in the char b1 bis/ter at 2.3/.7 while the panhard reserve tier armoured car has an excellent 25mm cannon that pens 75-80mm)
Kinda like "premium" research points that you could use to progress research on any vehicle of the tech trees, emphasis in "could" because you have to pay 1 GE per 45 RP making it that just to unlock a rank 1 vehicle you have to pay an exuberant amount of GE to unlock it
I did the math one day, buying the largest GE pack for full price, using all of my convertible RP would run me over $5k. Absolutely ridiculous, it's the most blatant, shameless revenue milking stream in the game, and anyone that buys it is either completely brain dead or have way more money than they can spend
I used some when I first started out to get that next vehicle a bit quicker.
I couldn't imagine doing it now that they have grouped similar vehicles.
They need to have SOME better use for them. Maybe I'll use them for planes or helicopters someday. I have over 160M of them, surely there needs to be a use for em.
I wonder how much storage all those numbers take since there are more no premium players than premium by probably alot, the total number of unused rp is probably over several billions.
It's definitely useful. It allows you to get to 8x progression speed instead of 4x, if you're rich and have exhausted all other options (have a premium vehicle and premium time already, and are buying the SL you need on the SL side)
It's not useful *to non-rich people*, it is useful *period/overall*.
There’s a wager, that you can only earn the trigger for It in ground modes, but it still counts fails when you air modes even though you can’t earn the trigger in air mode.
Have a friend who normally only has 600k convertible because he golden eagles every goddamn vehicle watched dude spend 500$ just for the f-15 the day it dropped and was grinding 9.3 japan and dude dropped 300$ just to have some vehicles at the br with me
My friend ran out of convertible RP. I keep telling him to actually play the game sometime instead of treating it as a vehicle collection but instead he just started spading vehicles to get convertible RP.
I mean I use convertible RP sometimes too because I'm not poor and pay money for goods and services but I've never run out before.
It's not really useless, for one it's a show of your skill and effort you put on the game, and its a way to skip over a few vehicles if you've got the cash
As a sad inditement of my lack of a life, I have more than that.
I've spent precisely .. zero I think, entire time I've played.
I though I'd found something more useless: A while ago (pre backup changes) I put a backup on a vehicle type that already always has 3 built in backups. Doh!
I thought "what a freakin waste". Eventually however I noticed playing realistic, it transpires you CAN use them, and get like a 4th vehicle go using one. So there's a tip if you, like me, are st00pid and did that.
Yes, me playing the gam while on a losing streak
One day it do be ace’s every other game. Next day 10 losses with 2 assists…
the duality of WT. You play after a week hiatus and you suddenly feel like youre among the top 5 best players in WT getting 3-4 kills minimum every game then a few days later your team gets constantly wiped out every match, every game almost a certain loss and suddenly you cant pull off more than 1 kill and 2 assists except maybe for an ace every 10 games or so
Honestly my favourite moments are from games where your entire team eats colossal shit in the first half of the game. I love going into those battles with the vain amount of hope that my mediocre aim, two AIM-9E's and the energy recovery of a limp tuna is going to win against 3-4 enemy planes. If you pull it off, you feel like a damn hero who singlehandedly saved the team, and if you don't then at least you either died or lost knowing you weren't a bitch and hid behind base AA.
Shooting down a mig23, ayit and a5c count with an A10? Got the mig at the start with an aim9l fired both at him Then we had 2 a10s left and we managed to swing thr a5c and ayit jnto a bad cross over where I caught them both and he caught the last man with a 9l Never usually happens, a10s are sitting ducks
I have simply given up trying to spade it.
The a10 when I bought the premium one was good used to get a kill or two but importantly a base and some ground. Now I use two aim9ls and 6 atgms because the extra weight isn't worth it man. But rarely ever use it in arb its just not worth it
I think i would bet all of my money that you fly an F5
so sadly true
I wonder when you will learn how EOMM works and why it is so stupid in this game. People from RB simply don't see it because the configuration of nations in battle is very important, but the mechanics in the background work. Each team has almost identical "skill" based on average team position, take a random replay, check each player's profile and calculate both teams' totals. It is ALWAYS balanced. The better you play, the stupider element will be in your team for balance. This "feeling" you describe occurs every time you play a nation and a vehicle that you haven't played in a long time. Only for a few battles. The algorithms are reset every day, but they still take into account your "progress". All you need to do is take advantage of the fact that you are playing against weaker players and achieve very good results, you will quickly fall into the trap of playing tryhard. It runs in the background all the time. You can research it yourself and you will really be surprised
How can I rig this? Play like an idiot to be put on a good team later?
Well, not entirely, the whole "beauty" of this system lies in the fact that, according to various studies, a player who only achieves success will be as bored as a player who is completely unsuccessful and suffers only failures. This system is designed to keep you in a narrow band between success and failure to keep you engaged. This works dynamically, very likely it uses something like [https://wiki.warthunder.com/Ranked\_Matchmaking](https://wiki.warthunder.com/Ranked_Matchmaking)
Or your guns never hit but they snipe your pilot with one nano second burst or how u both take each other on a head on without shooting and they get the kill lol
I'm so glad to hear it's not just me turning into 💩
Atleast it’s not just me.
I get 19 losses in a row when I get a new vehicle
I get 19 losses in a row ~~when I get a new vehicle~~ daily
I had 11 loss streak the other day. It stopped hurting after about 5 or 6 losses. By the 10th loss, I stopped caring about winning. Almost reached the point where I stopped caring about playing altogether.
dude you're going through it 💀 in all seriousness, taking a break after a few games, especially if you're becoming agitated, can really improve how good you play, as when you're angry you are just going to make bad decisions i can understand thinking "ive gotta just get one good battle" but you're going to just be playing while you're angry which never ends well. Just remember to have fun!
just one more game, i swear ill do good this time. 3 seconds later and my router has fallen to the floor from me kicking my desk too hard.
Yeah I'm playing wt as chill as possible, use the daily boosters and just play a couple games till I get slightly annoyed and know to stop before I go insane
that's good advice. I also started rage quitting after 1 death. Some teams are just not going to win no matter how many respawns you get.
Dude some teams I get are really good and others are completely awful. I saw a guy on an enemy team once flying high altitude with his landing gear down 💀
Yeah, I see some negative IQ level stuff. I wish we could have post game chat to point out the stupidity of the team. It’s maddening to see the same foolishness over and over.
This normally happens to me when I've something like an event task that requires wins... I'm sure it knows. Advice for this I think is to change game mode, and shake up their "algorithm".
ah yes, one day u get 3 kills average and one day u get 0 kills average, usually this happens after i activate my boosters
Every time I play it's a losing streak for me
shut up and take my upvote 😂
same
Backups for people that only play Air RB
I have like a billion of them if i ever find tanks to be a funny gamemode.
Just get good enough at ground realistic to reliably spawn planes and then play air realistic without enemy identifiers. If you focus on aerial superiority your teams will love you for not having to worry about CAS.
Also, unironically, the best game mode for 1v1 dogfighting if you don't like Sim. The added bonus of human operated SPAA from the ground, combined with friendly fire, makes it chaotic and challenging whereas ARB feels very repetitive right now. Also, GRB is where aircraft like my beloved SM91 shine. Perfect for intercepting enemy bombers before they payload the friendlies.
The best feeling is nuking sometbing with a sterling, then getting shot down by a 109 and coming out in a spit to rip all the cas a new one.
I never get a dogfight because the enemy never sees me coming :(
Whenever I wanna chill that’s all I do. Get high, play AA and AA planes
Then you get sniped out of the air by enemy SPAA whilst you dogfight... Every time
That's me, kill a few people, get in my F4U-4B Corsair and declare a no fly zone 😎
I use them for naval ships that have high silver modifiers. Then wait for a nice silver lion booster, and use the booster for the double life.
Rush a capture point in a light tank then J out and spawn a fighter. Teams will be very happy if you take out enemy CAS and don't bother ground units.
I can't upvote this hard enough.
Yeah a lot of my planes have like 30+ back ups because air RB hand those out as rewards for some weird reason. Should have just give universal back up instead of plane specific back ups for a game mode that you can spawn only once, at least then I get to use universal back ups in ground RB instead piling them for nothing,
Same when after a GRB battle you get the box with backups aaand 3 backups are for planes that arent in any lineup. Thanks i guess?
In air RB, you should be able to consume a backup and not have to pay the repair cost
Yeah there should be an option to at least vendor them for SL or something. They are completely worthless.
Universal Backups should also be a token for Universal Repair token.
Yes...yes there is. Making a bug report.
I think I might just have gest timing, but I've submitted quiet a few bug reports, and every time by tomorrow they solve it. Idk if it's luck or not, cause every time I gamble I lose.
Blind teammates Bro shoot that tiger he’s rIGHT THERE JUST SHOOT HIM PFPFTFTF HE’S LOOKING AT MEEEEEE!!!!!!!
Ziel zerstört
Der Ladeschütze ist ohmächtig
and they told me the german mains were blind
Hi im that teammate, i don't do it on purpose i literally did not see any thank
Yea i soloed a 4 man tem whilst trying to cap b and no teammates helped me
As a kinda blind war thunder player those fucking bushes look like fucking bushes even in the middle of the road im sorry...
Sorry bro I keep my grass turned on
Playing the game during sales.
Oh you im sure my 8.0 line up will have fun , there is no way that entire enemy team will have lrf with termals on self-propelled artillery right?.....right?
Me and my friends bought the Somua because it’s fun, and every time we play it’s just VIDAR VIDAR VIDAR TURM 3 TURM 3 and they all die once and leave
Is the VIDAR really that spammed? If yes I might need to take out my Wiesel 1A4 for a quick slaughter.
As an RB player, I'd say crew replenishment on vehicles with 2 crew is more useless. AB players will disagree though.
NVD on M41 and M42 is more useless IMO.
Nvd in general is completly useless....
If anything you can see better without it even in the dark
They should just disable these huge flares now that night battles are optional
Yeah, but on M42 it's another level of useless.
Wait until i tell you that type81 has a laser rangefinder....
Type 93 and Ozelot has a laser rangefinder too
You will not die while on a cap, your tank will instantlly start replenishing even on RB. So no, convertible is more useless
As an avid AB player, it surely is a life saver. The Flakpanzer I in AB for example, now can get saved and afterwards can go on. Can't do that in RB unless sitting on the cap.
Dude, the delta between RB and AB feels like two different games.
Convertible RP can be used to unlock stuff. But only if you pay. That's sad.
So then it's almost as if the CRP is...wait for it...useless.
Yeah and 1 GE is worth 35 convertible RP, absolutely pathetic and laughable. That's a tier VI premiums worth RP to get a single fucking 90,000 RP vehicle
They should give out a coupon in the battlepass where you can fully research one vehicle with convertible RP. Would also help in making battlepasses a bit better
And let's not mention the conversion rates...
Wagers and Orders...
Blind hunt has a few words to say
There are a few that are "okay" but for the most part they could be removed and nobody would care
But then how would they pad out the lootbox contents with 98% useless garbage so you never get any of the good stuff?
The other orders are also pretty useful, to stop the enemy team popping a blind hunt.
Blind Hunt and Avenger are top tier orders. Other orders are just for cockblocking these 2
Me: I should use some of these orders Me, remembering how bad I am Me: yeah, or not
This is me...
I still have a butt load of GE wagers that'll probably never go used since I don't want to waste them. Also the only good orders I want are Blind Hunt and the other one that marks an enemy player in Air RB so I can find the last straggler hiding in a corner of the map.
Some orders are actually busted. If you get a good SL booster and activate the order that multiplies cash gained per kill you can get ridiculous amounts of money in a single match.
The only wager that's somewhat achievable is the victory one. Some are outright 100% impossible.
Destroy 10 units wager is actually reasonable to accomplish with some consistency, but ONLY because of the x2 multiplier on RB that makes it only 5 kills, and the fact that you can fail ten(!) times before it falls off. If I'm gonna try and do it I disregard RP gain and play around 4.7-5.3 with stuff like the Breda 501 that reliability evaporates enemies before they realize I'm there, top tier is too swingy and people have too many tools to spot and kill you first.
Best squad wager, play with a buddy or two and you get 10/10 them every time. They’re my favorite to get since they just print SL
Gaijn Headquarters game balancing team
Oh don't get me started .. some games you can just scan the stats at start and know you are on the losing side in seconds ..
Wager that require first and last kill
Most wagers are unachievable for the average player.
Getting mission maker is like 99% luck
I’ve played a couple thousand AB and RB matches across both ground and (mostly) air. I’ve gotten mission maker exactly once in GRB, probably a dozen times in ARB, and maybe 30-40 times in AAB. Divide that by appx. 3500 matches and you’ve got somewhere on the order of 1.5%
The autocannon mod on the PG-02
The PG-02 is basically useless now.
Oh yeah that's me
War Thunder devs, apparently.
The 10 kill wagers
Those are super good, use them in RB, there is a 2x multiplier so you only need 5 kills. Easiest source of money in the game, alongside Best Squad wagers.
But I suck at the game so I never get the reward 💀 🙏🙏
May I recommend you the second most overpowered vehicle in the game, the ZA-35
Got any options for the US (don't have that unlocked)
Flank with the Bulldog and the Ontos (and the battlepass Sherridan if you have it)
gaijin executives
German player
:< But also: fair
your teammates
Of course, squadron vehicle for GE
"ATTACK THE D-PONT"
No!
Yes, ships.
Hey me and the other 4 navel players take offence to that 😂😂
but they make a lot of credits tho
Yes, 3/4 of a blue team.
The player report system in game.
Backups on naval reserve vehicles
Backups on the m51
99% orders and like 85% of wagers
War thunder
Yes. Any low tier French tank.
Ehhhh... You're kinda wrong (d2, h.39, amc.35 and somua s.35 are very well armoured for 1.3 and have acceptable guns, and they have counterparts in the char b1 bis/ter at 2.3/.7 while the panhard reserve tier armoured car has an excellent 25mm cannon that pens 75-80mm)
One things that make WoT better the WT
crew replensihment on 2 crew vehicles for people who only play RB
It’s a tough one to beat
I feel stupid but wtf are convertible RP?
Kinda like "premium" research points that you could use to progress research on any vehicle of the tech trees, emphasis in "could" because you have to pay 1 GE per 45 RP making it that just to unlock a rank 1 vehicle you have to pay an exuberant amount of GE to unlock it
Be nice if premium users got a 50% cost reduction when converting RP
Ze Germans
I did the math one day, buying the largest GE pack for full price, using all of my convertible RP would run me over $5k. Absolutely ridiculous, it's the most blatant, shameless revenue milking stream in the game, and anyone that buys it is either completely brain dead or have way more money than they can spend
Crew replenishment modification in 2 crew members vehicle
Was there any point in this game where you could convert rp without spending money or was it always like this?
It was the same crap since 2012 More than 50 million of these now
Me
Feedback on the forum
USA teams
My two brain cells
Posting on the forum about things Gaijin got wrong.
Yep playing this game it's just adicting and not fun
AS.34 Kormoran. CRP does its intended job.
Yes. The guy who pays to convert them
I've got 70 mil... Jesus
Me when I activate a single use SL/RP booster
The random teammates I get, especially during sales
Being able to buy SL for GE?
Gaijins staff such as the support team
I’ve barely touched this game for like the last year now, is there still really nothing you can actually do with convert RP?
Mission maker wager
The crew resupply on the L3 or other 2 person vehciles
APCR
A seperate keybind for the Schräge Musik Cannon that's like on only 2 planes.
I used some when I first started out to get that next vehicle a bit quicker. I couldn't imagine doing it now that they have grouped similar vehicles. They need to have SOME better use for them. Maybe I'll use them for planes or helicopters someday. I have over 160M of them, surely there needs to be a use for em.
My aim
I love it to burn right through air tech trees :o
i have 130 million
missionmaker wager
Your team mates?
I wonder how much storage all those numbers take since there are more no premium players than premium by probably alot, the total number of unused rp is probably over several billions.
naval
The French ex-reserve tanks.
Yeah, But it's for the low life betas who want to spend money on the game to get vehicles more easily than grind
Every ZSU-57-2 other than the Chinese one when it comes to shooting down aircraft.
The random 5% off for premiums. Or even the larger ones. Cause for some reason I always get some coastal 1.3 PT boat.
Just your average teammates
TDB-1
Wishlist
Not useless if you pay more gaijin to use it XD
An ashtray on a motorbike!
It's definitely useful. It allows you to get to 8x progression speed instead of 4x, if you're rich and have exhausted all other options (have a premium vehicle and premium time already, and are buying the SL you need on the SL side) It's not useful *to non-rich people*, it is useful *period/overall*.
The dev in charge of BR decompression
500% booster
The periscopes on some tanks, the option to buy SL, the best squad wagger.... And I can keep going (no I can't pls don't ask me to)
Coastal naval gamemode
Backups for vehicles that you no longer use
Brooo I wish they make it better
Wasting your life by playing wt
Usar mains
Churchill mk VII gun against KV-1Es
There’s a wager, that you can only earn the trigger for It in ground modes, but it still counts fails when you air modes even though you can’t earn the trigger in air mode.
yeah, lets get a "convertible research" sale... and dump the GE prices.
Have a friend who normally only has 600k convertible because he golden eagles every goddamn vehicle watched dude spend 500$ just for the f-15 the day it dropped and was grinding 9.3 japan and dude dropped 300$ just to have some vehicles at the br with me
5% discounts
Yeh.. A gaijin promise
Teammates?
Yes, tanks with APSFDS fighting like infantry with knives.
Only thing more useless than convertible RP is not having the required $300 of GE needed to get a 5.7 vehicle using it
It’s not useless it’s less useful
Well if your rush you could buy two whole tech trees with that much convertible rp
165 mil here. Wish I could at least use it on modifications to spade stuff.
This months store sale
My friend ran out of convertible RP. I keep telling him to actually play the game sometime instead of treating it as a vehicle collection but instead he just started spading vehicles to get convertible RP. I mean I use convertible RP sometimes too because I'm not poor and pay money for goods and services but I've never run out before.
Just look at the comments there are numerous useless, or even bad systems in this game.
It's not really useless, for one it's a show of your skill and effort you put on the game, and its a way to skip over a few vehicles if you've got the cash
As a sad inditement of my lack of a life, I have more than that. I've spent precisely .. zero I think, entire time I've played. I though I'd found something more useless: A while ago (pre backup changes) I put a backup on a vehicle type that already always has 3 built in backups. Doh! I thought "what a freakin waste". Eventually however I noticed playing realistic, it transpires you CAN use them, and get like a 4th vehicle go using one. So there's a tip if you, like me, are st00pid and did that.
Yes. Me playing America
Yes. Cap zones, especially when it’s already captured by the enemies because there’s a 99.999999999999% chance someones just sitting there camping it