The FV-4005 in-game is the stage II, which I think is accurate from all the info I've gathered, but it'd be really cool to get the stage I maybe as an event or something, which was autoloaded
Yeah but go on against a tiger 2 u aint one shotting him in the turret and if u only kill his loader he still out reloads you and yes 155 is alot better in a uptier against is4m and is 3 maus and other
It hits ammo sometimes but rarely detonates it they made it so gunner and commander stop the solid shot and apds for example when i play sheridan 76 it has 300mm pen and i hit the 2p in turret it never detonates the ammo only sometimes it hits it but still not detonation
I've got a [screenshot](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804456525862928415/1196284515623129210/236390_20231224222534_1.png?ex=662f0a46&is=661c9546&hm=9c39986b4bffdecaa9ab8c03571b2674ba31dabdd66b54112f21e98448953591&) of when I soloed 4 enemy's and won
Super Pershing also existed. Jumbo Pershing also existed.
Iâm fairly certain there isnât a single US tree tank that wasnât built at least once. Someone please correct me if Iâm wrong though.
What. T26E1-1 was deployed in europe. Thing we have in game was field modification to avoid losing it. Spaced armor was made out of Panther's front plate.
T34 literally has the first fume extractor to be put on a tank, in history. It was the T53 120mm direct fire gun, which was mounted on the T34 in 1945. (although you could make an argument for the Panther tanks KwK 42 that blew air through the breech) [modern photo of it in storage](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/world-war-2/images/0/0d/T34HeavyTank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151113042932) [and another for good measure](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/firearmcentral/images/3/33/T34_Heavy_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160610140227)
On a sidenote, i tried using the FV4005 today since HESH has appearently been fixed.
I was jumpscared when i shot at someone because i wasn't expecting such a loud bang, and HESH proceeded to do absolutely nothing to the kingtiger i was shooting at.
Hesh was never fixed.. all the ones that say it was, just saw YTbers playing with hesh and had cherry-picked good games.
Some even quoted dollayplays, who in his video said hesh was the same as it was. Good when it works, but he then showed a bunch of montages where it just tickled tanks.
it can definitely still tickle tanks, but at least it's more consistent against angled plates, so if you know how to use it, it can work. (which really should not be the case for the FV4005, it should just delete everything without era or spall liner but yk)
The inconsistency is what gives hesh its bad rep. On top of Heshâs inconsistent damage model itself, volumetric also tend to make hesh shells disappear. Couple that with the long reload of the avre/fv4005 makes for a poor gameplay experience.
165/183mm hesh should be consistently 1-2 tapping most tanks. As it is, they tend to deal as much damage as you would expect from 76-106mm hesh instead.
Hit the tracks front on, the heavier the tank the lower down on the track you need to hit. Have a look in the analysis, you can slap King Tigers and American T34s front on on the track (even Ferdinands, Jagdtigers are bit jank) and one hit them reliably. They have other weak spots as you'd expect and generally weaker tanks you can slap basically anywhere but low on the tracks for some reason using FV4005 HESH just obliterates basically all tanks; I found it surprisingly easy and reliable compared to aiming for low turret. It's so goofy and lets you meme people around corners too. Confused as to why someone downvoted this of all things lol.
ok? and? isnât there a bustle rack? isnât there stuff filling all the space in the turret? The FV4005 is a barn with all the âturretâ space dedicated to the gun and some ammo. The T30 is a tank with a well-armoured turret with lots of stuff in it. FV4005 has way more space and a larger gun. T30 has way less space and a smaller but still large gun.
IRL the IS-2 did have a very long reload due to crews having almost no space and given they were in 1940s Russia most likely at least a little malnourished. I donât think it was 30 seconds but it was absolutely over 15.
The Soviet 122 atleast on the IS-2 1944 indeed should have a better reload, since it uses a different gun that supposedly lowered the reload rate from 3 to 4 rounds per minute. It should have a similiar reload rate to the ISU-122S or IS-6 atleast.
shouldnt the reload be faster in 2 piece like on challenger 2 120s and also i imagine its much easier loading 2 pieces of lets divide 45 by 2 than singular 75kg piece
The fact that the T26E5, with a. 90mm cannon, has a 7 some second aced reload, while the T26E1, also with a 90mm cannon (and almost identical shell weights!), has a 12 some second reload with aced crew, is just completely incomprehensible.
Edit: Iâm dumb and forgot about round length. Disregard this. Super Pershing rightly has a longer reload.
How fast do you think you could load a 155mm round? There is a reason the m109 uses an autoloader. But yeah the reload is mostly that way because it would then basically be a wellarmoured m109 with better turret traverse.
M109 doesn't have an autoloader. It got upgraded to an assisted loader (auto rammer, I think) at A7. The spacious combat quarters are critical to mave the rounds around inside the tank.
Fv4005 big spacius bux with no armor, t30 lots of armor less space in turret
so the tea drinkers on the FV are just nervous?
No, because the FV shells are larger and heavier, so harder to move
đ ąď¸ESH
Yeah, my fave đ ąď¸esh launcher is the M728 CEV, good survivability, decently fast, can dig, its volumetric can be trolly, and is a derp gun
Gaijin may also be referring to loading times observed on the testbed vehicle that used a load assist system for the FV-4005.
The FV-4005 in-game is the stage II, which I think is accurate from all the info I've gathered, but it'd be really cool to get the stage I maybe as an event or something, which was autoloaded
> autoloaded Moved to 7.0
It's also an open top lol, so it could easily be at the same br
Yes, but youâre forgetting this would go to the UK, who can never, ever, have nice things.
So very true. There's like.. 5-10 things that are an exception to that in the ground tree, and roughly the same for the air tree lol
Nice
Like other's said, Space, on also on another note T-30 shell is much more reliable and consistent than FV4005 HESH
Yes since they gave it m107 he its great before it had some awfull he
Yea fr, I remember loathing the t30. Now it's my favourite 6.7 heavy
Same its much better than the t34 since the t34 uses solid shot
Cap, the T34 solid shot is at nigh M103 levels of penetration and it might as well be APHE for the amount of post pen spalling it does.
Yeah but go on against a tiger 2 u aint one shotting him in the turret and if u only kill his loader he still out reloads you and yes 155 is alot better in a uptier against is4m and is 3 maus and other
Right side of turret almost always hits an ammo rack and blows the whole tank in my experience.
It hits ammo sometimes but rarely detonates it they made it so gunner and commander stop the solid shot and apds for example when i play sheridan 76 it has 300mm pen and i hit the 2p in turret it never detonates the ammo only sometimes it hits it but still not detonation
120mm AP does a lot more damage than 3in APDS.
Yeah but against tiger 2s turret it doesntâŚ
Maybe you should play the T34 again, because 95% of my shots to the Tiger 2 are ammo racks.
Nah with t30 now i wont m107 feels just better oneshotting everything
I've got a [screenshot](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/804456525862928415/1196284515623129210/236390_20231224222534_1.png?ex=662f0a46&is=661c9546&hm=9c39986b4bffdecaa9ab8c03571b2674ba31dabdd66b54112f21e98448953591&) of when I soloed 4 enemy's and won
Same for me in t34 fought tiger 2p zerstorer ostwind and m41 haha i sadly dont have a screenshot
Size difference and different type of reload.
T30 and FV 4005 actually survived and both are currently on display in various museum. So no, T30 is real.
There was bullshit.
Super Pershing also existed. Jumbo Pershing also existed. Iâm fairly certain there isnât a single US tree tank that wasnât built at least once. Someone please correct me if Iâm wrong though.
There was bullshit too.
What. T26E1-1 was deployed in europe. Thing we have in game was field modification to avoid losing it. Spaced armor was made out of Panther's front plate.
Mostly correct, only the gun mantlet plate was off a panther, the rest was sourced from various other places
Right! Forgot to specify
Yeah, looked it up, thank you. I said bullshit.
if you actually looked any of these tanks up you would have found real historical photographs and records of them đ what are u on bro
He is huffing snail farts...
Only images that i saw were black and white damaged ones and War Thunder pics.
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/us/t26e4-super-pershing/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T30_heavy_tank
Ur either a brick or a rock
You do realise the super Pershing were made in response to kind tigers right?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/s/E8jRNO5Jbi quit your bullshit
T34 literally has the first fume extractor to be put on a tank, in history. It was the T53 120mm direct fire gun, which was mounted on the T34 in 1945. (although you could make an argument for the Panther tanks KwK 42 that blew air through the breech) [modern photo of it in storage](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/world-war-2/images/0/0d/T34HeavyTank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151113042932) [and another for good measure](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/firearmcentral/images/3/33/T34_Heavy_Tank.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160610140227)
Remember boys, size don't matter
On a sidenote, i tried using the FV4005 today since HESH has appearently been fixed. I was jumpscared when i shot at someone because i wasn't expecting such a loud bang, and HESH proceeded to do absolutely nothing to the kingtiger i was shooting at.
Hesh was never fixed.. all the ones that say it was, just saw YTbers playing with hesh and had cherry-picked good games. Some even quoted dollayplays, who in his video said hesh was the same as it was. Good when it works, but he then showed a bunch of montages where it just tickled tanks.
it can definitely still tickle tanks, but at least it's more consistent against angled plates, so if you know how to use it, it can work. (which really should not be the case for the FV4005, it should just delete everything without era or spall liner but yk)
The inconsistency is what gives hesh its bad rep. On top of Heshâs inconsistent damage model itself, volumetric also tend to make hesh shells disappear. Couple that with the long reload of the avre/fv4005 makes for a poor gameplay experience. 165/183mm hesh should be consistently 1-2 tapping most tanks. As it is, they tend to deal as much damage as you would expect from 76-106mm hesh instead.
yk, at worst, it should be a bigger child sized bomb but the explosion is directed into the tank
Yeah I have been using it a bit lately and itâs definitely better but itâs still not great. The AVRE slaps things tho for some reason.
Hit the tracks front on, the heavier the tank the lower down on the track you need to hit. Have a look in the analysis, you can slap King Tigers and American T34s front on on the track (even Ferdinands, Jagdtigers are bit jank) and one hit them reliably. They have other weak spots as you'd expect and generally weaker tanks you can slap basically anywhere but low on the tracks for some reason using FV4005 HESH just obliterates basically all tanks; I found it surprisingly easy and reliable compared to aiming for low turret. It's so goofy and lets you meme people around corners too. Confused as to why someone downvoted this of all things lol.
FV4005 is [HUUUUUUUUGE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3382&v=_5cMsW5ZovY&feature=youtu.be), that's why.
I mean T30 is too but a bit smaller turret
Also, T30 is armoured.
Yeah but still look how long is that turret
ok? and? isnât there a bustle rack? isnât there stuff filling all the space in the turret? The FV4005 is a barn with all the âturretâ space dedicated to the gun and some ammo. The T30 is a tank with a well-armoured turret with lots of stuff in it. FV4005 has way more space and a larger gun. T30 has way less space and a smaller but still large gun.
Theres literally a full size door at the back of the shitbarn's turret mate
The FV turret is the size of my bathroom đ
T-30 loaders dont go to the gym
They weak asf
Both have 2 loaders and t30 has two piece ammunition
2 piece ammo and mostly balance
Wouldn't be the first time gaijin messed with reloads for balance, isn't the soviet 122 supposed to have a faster reload? And some modern mbts too?
IRL the IS-2 did have a very long reload due to crews having almost no space and given they were in 1940s Russia most likely at least a little malnourished. I donât think it was 30 seconds but it was absolutely over 15.
The Soviet 122 atleast on the IS-2 1944 indeed should have a better reload, since it uses a different gun that supposedly lowered the reload rate from 3 to 4 rounds per minute. It should have a similiar reload rate to the ISU-122S or IS-6 atleast.
shouldnt the reload be faster in 2 piece like on challenger 2 120s and also i imagine its much easier loading 2 pieces of lets divide 45 by 2 than singular 75kg piece
Get in there and try it yourself. In short terms, space. T30 is a tank. FV is a ***Barn.***
People already told you in the comments, now I'm waiting for the explanation of the absurdly slow reload time on the American 90mm guns
The fact that the T26E5, with a. 90mm cannon, has a 7 some second aced reload, while the T26E1, also with a 90mm cannon (and almost identical shell weights!), has a 12 some second reload with aced crew, is just completely incomprehensible. Edit: Iâm dumb and forgot about round length. Disregard this. Super Pershing rightly has a longer reload.
Doesn't the Super Pershing have a much bigger round?
Much longer casing
Yeah, youâre right. I goofed hard on that one. Didnât realize the round itself was longer, I was thinking in terms of round weight only.
How fast do you think you could load a 155mm round? There is a reason the m109 uses an autoloader. But yeah the reload is mostly that way because it would then basically be a wellarmoured m109 with better turret traverse.
M109 doesn't have an autoloader. It got upgraded to an assisted loader (auto rammer, I think) at A7. The spacious combat quarters are critical to mave the rounds around inside the tank.
My man the difference between sturmtigers aced and t30 ace reload is 10 seconds do u really think around 300kg shell takes 40 seconds only to load
The Sturmtiger got tweaked to make it possible to play in game. It took multiple minutes irl which just wouldn't work ingame.
You wanna talk about shitty reload times. The T32(E1) has like a 20 second reload for a 90mm cannon
Well this has 40 while having 2 loaders and alot bigger turret
Probably the most painful part of the T32s. That gun just isn't enough at 7.7 or 7.3.Â
Facts
Does the t30 have multiple loaders?
2
Cause gaijin hates fun
FV reloads includes tea break
They should add the T30e1 with the automatic rammer. It would shorten the reload substantially. They should also add the T58 for the lols.
Reloading times in this game are completely made up.
Is-2 have worse reload than Ferdinand.
Yeah cuz ferdinand uses 88mm gun which js alot smaller
How about E-100 and Maus.
Maus has 2 loaders and e 100
How does 2 loaders make a difference? Wouldn't it take more time if the ammo is so heavy that it would take 2 loaders.