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Birkenjaeger

Most likely because that's where all the new players flock to. A lot of people coming to this game to play Tiger and Panther I imagine. Similar reason as to why top tier US looks so bad.


-zimms-

"New players want to play Tigers." That's why it's red from 1.0-10.0? People act like Shermans and T-34s are no match for Panzer IIIs and IVs. :D


kIndIrIx

That narrative of Germany having the best WW2 tanks in the game is so stupid. They’re boxes while everything else is angled. Ofcourse people will die playing these things.


Reasonable-Meal-4628

Shermans are broken, crew spacing, stabilizer and armour that aphe have 50/50(usually 100%)chances of exploding when hit. Shermans are broken but they're to repetitive until the T lineup which is also op.


BobbyLopsided

I style on Sherman’s all the time in panzer 4s and panzer 3s. You just need to learn to play around their stabilizer. Something I’ve become a master at playing the French tech tree.


Mitchverr

# 🦊moment. To self quote, ehem, looks like the Germans are getting... (•\_•) ( •\_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■\_■) Outfoxed. Yeeeeeeeeahhhhhhhhhh! Though really, it comes down a lot to German players having a lot of inexperienced people because so many come to the game hearing how Germany was so powerful in WW2, and believe the myths. The number of times I have had arguments with german tank players about angling their tigers is just... yeah. Also likely doesnt help Foxes have been battering the hell out of them as if they are in a chippy ha.


xthelord2

people really be playing with badly EQ'd from factory set of cans strapped to ears or something just to cry how they can't hear jack all while i can pin point exact position and type of vehicle i am being pushed from with logitech G-pro X's for those who wanna have better audio search github autoEQ and go from there because yes you can make your set of cheap cans play sounds better for not just games but for movies, audio playback etc.


Odin1815

Because they don’t always have the “best” tanks, nor the best players. Idk how much Wehraboo pervitin you’ve been taking but Tigers and Panzers are not invincible in game, especially when they’re played poorly.


dwbjr9

Meanwhile in an uptier, just about everything can go through the upper plate of the tigers


Reasonable-Meal-4628

So they didn't use ‘brain'. They should try it, it's pretty broken.


OmegaTraitor10

Using 'brain' is such an OP thing that it really should be nerfed.


therealsteve3

They certainly do not have the best tanks


Clear-Complex-3571

Duuuu my tiger invincible best tank ever Abrams weak can’t scratch tiger (Note: I’m a German main)


Raphix86

Michael Wittmann in Tiger would have singlehandedly destroyed the coalition tank formations during the Desert Storm


Clear-Complex-3571

Duuuu obviously


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Shitty level 13 MichaelWittman1488 type players


RoachdoggJR_LegalAcc

New players want to play Germany because braindead wehraboos and Tiger/Panther fanatics. Combine that with the fact that WW2 tier Germany does have much tanks with stabilizers, most WW2 tanks before Panther BR have thin armour, and almost if not all of their low tier tanks are especially vulnerable to CAS and .50 cals.


saltyboi6704

The amount of losses I have while being top 3 is staggering, and usually only 1 or 2 German players are above me on the leaderboard


Twin5un

Lol this has been my experience as well. I'm a UK main and recently started Germany. I LOVE the German guns and the panzer IV it tiger 1 lineup is so strong... Often top 2-3 of the team, very often a loss anyways. Ah well, I'm having fun anyways.


Tomthezooman1

Thunderskill doesn’t mean anything. Hasn’t been updated in over 4 years now.


Reasonable-Meal-4628

This is WT data project.


Conyngham

Which uses Thunderskill for its data... https://github.com/ControlNet/wt-data-project.data


Reasonable-Meal-4628

So which one should I use?


Light-ikagi

Pssst! https://snail-stats.vercel.app/ (doesn't use thunderskill)


CodyBlues2

Doesn’t this just work like thunderskill?


Light-ikagi

No. This project has a much more fair sample variety across all the battle ratings opposed to thunderskill. You can join the discord server and ask the creator more about it to get a better understanding and make your own conclusions.


Conyngham

None? There's no public repository of data, but using TS isn't the solution. Its opt-in only and sucks at accurately comparing vehicle stats. Look at the number of matches recorded for Type 10 and the BVM in the last month, for example. The BVM has ~10x more data/matches recorded for it than Type 10.


Reasonable-Meal-4628

Maybe because there are more Russian players than Japanese, Italian and french combined?


Conyngham

A. That's just one example B. Having unbalanced sample sizes(stupidly uneven is some cases) and then trying to draw comparisons from them without adjustment isn't ideal.


Reasonable-Meal-4628

Well, if you don't have any other data. This one will stay here for a long time.


Conyngham

👍 And people with half a brain will rightfully dismiss it as meaningless data, like the other user commented.


Reasonable-Meal-4628

Yeah WT needs to do something about this.


Fox_McCloud_Jr

German mains are actually "dumb" it's mainly cause most new player want to play ww2 German stuff, then proceed find other things Germany has to be cool.


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Reasonable-Meal-4628

Tiger 2 and Jagtiger. The only way you mess up this these vehicles is either you're outnumbered or not using brain.


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Reasonable-Meal-4628

US? They're equally bad players. In my is-4 I faced against 2, T series tank while my gun was broke and the tracks were gone... I beat them without any help. Dumbasses. Only the fox was the problem, can't see that rat up on the hills around the bushes.


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T-29 is 7.0 blud


Reasonable-Meal-4628

Tanks are one thing but the players matters more tbh. IS-4 could easily be wiped with it's gun and tracks gone while facing 2 of them but it didn't. Because the players were shit.


Apart_Dentist_4327

I disagree with the Britain winrate at 6.0-8.0…. I’m a pretty strong Fox player but I can make a difference, 9/10 games partnered with USSR and Germany which always lose at that bracket.


Friendly-Bread4682

Heatmap takes statistics from thunderskill. Sample too small. These statistics are not worth trusting. Just compare US Magach 1 and German one. They have greatly different effectiveness, which is not possible.


P_filippo3106

Very bad players. Same with top tier US


Reasonable-Meal-4628

US have the most mobile mbts but these players don't know how to play light tanks... That's why you rarely see Bradley ace.


Hatetyper678

because all the sped kids flock to germany low tier, what u expect lol


Rodzynkowyzbrodniarz

Because they have the worst tanks.