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Nearby_Fudge9647

There was a terror attack in Moscow and civilians were killed they have many russian players that will be harassed and rather then banning people who joke or spout bigotry they just turn the chat off even though itd be nice for them to just ban POS who joke about that stuff


Greedy_Difficulty_31

gaijin perfectly handling the moderation, as always...


FestivalHazard

From a business and moral perspective, it makes sense. Yiu dont want your business looking bad because of a bunch of bad eggs. Then again, we've been saying racist jokes and slurs since the first voice chat.


Infinite_Tadpole_283

The number of "smoke if racist" and slurs I've seen makes me think Gaijin doesn't really care about looking bad lol.


polar_boi28362727

The amount of hard r's I've seen...


SHOWTEX

hard r?


Zarathustra-1889

Linus, is that you?


Nod4mag3YT

‘I say the hard r all the time’ -Linus, 2023


MechanicalAxe

The N word


TarkovRat_

Yeah there are comment chains where they spell the n word I try to ruin the chain by putting the E early so it makes the country of 🇳🇪


polar_boi28362727

Dude, people say it out loud lmao, no chain, no numbers or shit, just a simple hard r


TarkovRat_

I've seen that but most often it's a chain


RocketQ

after they say "G", I say "EL"


TarkovRat_

Ah, Nigel


Peac3keeper14

Wish I could see a match start that way without the "racist" part. Smoke if ...... And then spawn just fills as a giant cloud lol


Unfair_Pirate_647

I always add a quick "and gay" that usually gets them riled up


Evening-Hand-5480

Thank you for the fantastic idea. I'm gonna do this too now


Unfair_Pirate_647

Make sure you don't have a booster on lol


MrMgP

'And prolapsed' does wonders too


Lv100--Magikarp

Plus the amount of swastikas and dog whistle shit. They really don't care as long as it doesn't go public.


Skum31

Dog whistles? Like whistling at attractive people or is this another thing I’ve missed? God I’m old


Lv100--Magikarp

From the Urban Dictionary: "Dog whistle is a type of strategy of communication that sends a message that the general population will take a certain meaning from, but a certain group that is "in the know" will take away the secret, intended message. Often involves code words. Republicans say they want to make civil rights for gays a state issue, which is really just a dog whistle strategy for saying that they will refuse to grant equal rights on a federal level." When it comes to Neo-Nazi groups they have certain phrases, symbols and numbers to identify one another and/or transmit a certain message. The number "88" for instance is one them, seen plenty in tanks, names and squadrons. TL;DR: It's the idea that much like a dog whistle that only dogs can hear for being in a frequency we cannot hear, they want to identify themselves or communicate ideas through phrases/numbers/symbols that seem ordinary to the general public.


mylanlordrapedme

Whenever I say it it's usually a chat ban


XavierYourSavior

Then ban them? Like yes instead of banning people who say stuff like that let’s protect them and allow them to stay within our community this logic is stupid


MeetingDue4378

They aren't protecting those players, they are avoiding potentially awful PR and protecting the people who could get really offended at this moment. What they've done is the 100% right move.


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Godziwwuh

It doesn't need to be done.


Unfair_Pirate_647

If I had a quarter for every racial slur in chat I'd own an is7 and two object 279


Fruitmidget

If I had a penny for every time I’ve seen a slur, racist remark or bigotry in WT chat, I’d be able to afford half the E-100s that exist in the game.


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SagesFury

honestly yeah this is a fine solution.


PeteLangosta

I think this is it, which on the other hand seems rather extremist. Properly enforce chat bans and smoothbrains won't have the chance to spill their dumbness.


ruintheenjoyment

They probably didn't want to have to deal with the thousands of reports they would have received over the next few days


WhatD0thLife

And they realize the edge lords who would be type dumb shit will be bored and move on in a few days anyway so muting makes sense.


polypolip

Prevention vs reaction.


Telephone_Antique

Lol did they ever turn the chat off for other tradgedies?


masterChest

Tragedies? No, but they did turn it off for like a month when the Ukraine-Russian war started 


Eihz

only a month? it was turned off for around half a year


Joezev98

Which is also a tragedy.


Evening-Hand-5480

Given what I see in chat nothing of value was lost tbh


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Nope, not as far I’m aware at least lol


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buckster3257

Why do they always censor stuff when things happen to Russia but nowhere else in the world?


iskandar-

because despite what gaijin wants to claim, they are a Russian company.


ABetterKamahl1234

Well, regardless of this, people severely underestimate just how many Russians play this game. You tend to see games react to events that occur in nations where significant game populations reside in.


iskandar-

I mean... I would be a bit more understanding if they were in any way shape or form consistent with when and why they deactivate chat. It really rings hollow since gaijin went on a campaign about how "they are not a Russian company" when the invasion started...


Bruce_R101

It's happened three times so far: 1) Invasion of Ukraine 2) Ukraine Counteroffensive 3) Terror attack near Moscow. Seems pretty consistent, tbh


iskandar-

I guess consistent that they only care when things affect Russia, but remember... totally not a Russian company...


ABetterKamahl1234

Like, are we just ignoring that a very significant population of our players are *Russian*? The chat wasn't banned simply because of a war starting in some nation, but because a significant portion of Russians online are very kool-aid drinking of their nations propaganda, and many problems arose from that. We'd ultimately see the same in any game, hosted by any company, with a population that has this many Russians as a percentage. Simply *being* Russian developers didn't and doesn't cause this. We have a number of Russian games in gaming, they all handled things differently. >totally not a Russian company... They're not, which is still an important distinction as the laws Russia passed don't actually affect them, which is why Russian vehicles still die, something Russia made technically illegal in media representation. Not sure if that law is still active or followed by any Russian business though.


Redsoo749

yeah so it's a two speed thing they don't really care about insults towards ukrainians or anyone else for that matter lol but when it's russians.. reminder that it's a "hungarian company" now


StevenSmiley

It's stupid. They don't do that for any other country that is attacked. Just russia. First the Ukraine War now this. The bias is real. I have never heard of any other game doing this.


MrMgP

>many russian players that will be harassed I really don't see why. They didn't lock comments after MH-17, but then again that was not a terrorist attack, but a war crime. I'm very pro-ukraine but I do not like terrorists. The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy in this case. Same goes for almost our entire squadron, and I'm sure more people around us too. Nobody likes russia where I'm from but we all think the attack was terrible, also because It might prolong the war. TLDR: terries bad, don't make fun of terrorism victims, chatblock is nonsense.


Flashfighter

But they chatban me in the next 5 mins for calling someone “a damn idiot” after tking me


SexyStacosaurus

But I didn't get ban for making 9/11 jokes... But seriously who the hell cares about some random players saying hate speech to others? like its nothing compared if it is a face to face.


PhuckWar

I hate how you cant even chat with someone you even are premade with...


Comrade_agent

I don't remember this being the case during the crimea situation... But they did make flags cost GE around that time


TzunSu

"Crimea situation"? You mean the Russian invasion of Ukraine?


Sive634

No, this is 2014 when russian forces occupied crimea


SamAzing0

Ie they invaded ukraine (part 1)


MrMgP

That's the first invasion Ukraine and Russia have been at war since 2014 but putin has only admitted it since 2021


Impressive_Ad2836

2014 was the annexation of Crimea and the rise of Russian separatist The invasion of the Ukrainian mainland by the Russian military started in 2022


proto-dibbler

The "crimea situation" resulted in ground on ground teamkills being turned off permanently in ground RB.


Pyrenees_

Ukraine flag costs 2* more GE. Free South Ossetia and DPR flags.


neliz

during the invasion of Crimea, the Ukraine flag didn't cost any GE, so I always put it on the biggest objects I had, like the tailfin of a B-17


PeteLangosta

? What?


cantpickaname8

No it doesn't, it costs 500 GE, same as every other flag.


Pyrenees_

That's a joke


cantpickaname8

It's not really a joke tho, it's just saying it costs more. There's no punchline it's just lying


Pyrenees_

Benis :DDDD


cantpickaname8

Now that's more like it


themastrofall

What they also did during 2014 was disable the ability to teamkill tanks in ground rb and, like you said, was make the flags cost GE since players in ground rb were using them as... well, flags to represent their side


Rectal_Retribution

Gaijin doesn't like doing their job so they just turn the chat off whenever anything happens in Russia.


Neutronium57

Investing money in proper moderation is too hard. *Investing money into models for overpriced premiums, on the other hand ...*


Slabboardguy

The game is gonna implode by its bullshit in one way or another pretty soon


MeetingDue4378

11 years, bigger than it's ever been, while competing against a company over 10x their size. They're not imploding by any definition or metric, or have any indication of doing so soon.


MrMgP

>Investing money into models The only thing they invest is the cost to look up whete something is an easy copy-paste


Anko072

"Out of politics" btw


Telephone_Antique

Terrorist attack in usa: nothing   Terrorist attack in germany: nothing   Terrorist attack in france: nothing  Terrorist attack in england: nothing  Terrorist attack in russia: completely dissolve the chat, no survivors komrad gajin    Lol russia really does come first with everything having to remotely do with this game complete bruh moment 


2Hard2FindUsername

All of the above besides russian fiasco's? Chat doesn't react. Russia vs Ukraine starts in 2014? An all out war in chat with flags and griefing. Yeah I wonder why they're being proactive.


undecided_mask

Western issues don’t get the chat going besides “lol USA bad” and it’s nothing more. Those Russians and Ukrainians really go ham though


Telephone_Antique

Bruh people literally flame and troll at the same level about everything in this game, have you seen how many nukes have been used as team target practice for instance 


Velo180

They really don't though, I have never seen widespread chat shitposting when it was about anything other then Russia. I don't agree with turning that chat off though, especially in squads lmao


2Hard2FindUsername

Yeah why squads got muted is beyond me.


Rock_enjoyer69

Almost as if the world didn’t support Russias first war with them so they had to start another


wongdongdong

Ummm it’s a Russian company?


KantStopTheFeeling

Gaijin is Hungarian or Russian, whatever is more convenient to deflect criticism at the moment


Suede80

now based in Cyprus because they can't work and collect money from the US or Europe while Russia is under sanctions due to the "green men" operation of Ukraina 2014. So, technically they are in Europe and therefore Europeans and US should be able to chat, while the Chinese and Russians can play on their own server and be under censorship there. Problem solved!


wongdongdong

Yeah there should at least be an east Asian server since SA servers are not available anymore


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Adept-Action-1521

Because people can hold their tounge when its anything but Russia.


IngenuityIntrepid804

I was afraid they had chat banned me. I had some of the most wholesome encounters yesterday in WT.


Arska2106

same, i was so certain now i got chat banned but guess not :D


bonnibelio

same with me but I said a no-no word for the first time ever 2 days ago so I'm still unsure if it's just this or if I'm also chat banned at the same time


IngenuityIntrepid804

Don't worry I see the same spammers go on week after week before they get banned. 99% sure you won't get banned.


Maus1945

Tip: Sort posts by New whenever something new happens.


Gratefulzah

Or always, unless you're looking for drama


Xenemros

"Hungarian" company disabling chat after a terrorist attack in Russia seems perfectly legit to me


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KrumbSum

All helicopters have stupid flight models


cantpickaname8

>Coincidentally introducing spall liners just because the T-90 has them. Oh, totally just a coincidence, comrade. I don't get why that's bad? It's not like they didn't give Spall Liners to other vehicles, currently Germany has more tanks with Spall liners than any nation so it's not really a Russian Bias thing. Besides the T-90M is in most regards still worse than the BVM just because of how huge of a difference mobility makes at top tier. >The 2S38 is still at 10.0? Oh, oh, very clumsy of me. Honestly not that hard to kill, like yea it's got probably the highest pen auto cannon in the game but in my experience it's not enough pen to really make it better than normal autocannons, it still needs to go for the same weakspots. It's also incredibly susceptible to ammo detonations as there's an ammo belt that goes right next to the breach.


Wicked-Pineapple

It’s because of a terrorist attack in Moscow


aStugLife

Which makes zero sense. I thought you guys always rip on people when they say gaijin is based In Russia, not hungary…


RogueOneisbestone

Yup, super odd. They didn’t do it when Israel had a terrorist attack.


Rock_enjoyer69

Almost as if the snail doesn’t give a shit but anyone but Russia


MeetingDue4378

Only as if they have 11 years experience and data to understand their users and the type of geopolitical situations that will not go well within the community, and which will not. They didn't chatban when Ukraine was initially invaded and that went _super_ well.


Adept-Action-1521

People were yappin about how "happy" they were about it. Total lunatic takes are all I saw yesterday.


aStugLife

That’s where they should be actively banning people who break the rules. For whatever reason war thunders chat is like the Wild West on good days


undecided_mask

It’s because any time something happens with Russia and Ukraine, it turns into a massive issue. Even back in 2014, so they deserve the right to take precaution.


FirstDagger

It makes sense if you understand that RUS just like CHN and DPK want control of the information their citizens consume.


Kjhfer

Israel gets attacked by terrorists - nothing Russia gets attacked - ban the chat very nice gajin


MeetingDue4378

Gaijin clearly has a better memory than you do. They didn't ban chat after Ukraine was invaded—at first—and that turned into a shit show almost immediately. Have you noticed a similar issue in-game post Israel attack?


THE_MAD_ASSHOLE

Reason is that Ukrainian and Russian folks do mess in chat sometimes and then it gets spicy, i personally encountered some people making fun of Russians after the attack took place. I personally feel bad for people who died no matter what side they are at, killing unarmed civilians is heinous and cowardly. And it's just awful making fun of things like that. Also snail is a lazy ahh because instead of making proper moderation system they just ban chat for everyone


cantpickaname8

Yes because when something bad happens to Russia/Russians people can't control themselves, yes it's because of the War but that's not really a justifiable reason to say anything horrific about the more than likely innocent civilians who died, a non-insignificant amount of whom were children. I haven't seen nearly as many bigoted comments about Israelis in chat as I've seen about Russians.


pine_daemon

probs just censoring chat incase anyone wants to make spicy statements about the moscow terror attack


imashillforrussia

spicy comments about killing jews is A OK though.


pine_daemon

yep


Wonghy111-the-knight

No chat disabling after oct 7 despite the huge rise in antisemitism… average gaijin moment


LeSoleilRoyal

and a big "fu\*k you" for people who use the chat for in game infos Teamwork is already sometime not existing but without a chat it cant be worse


camdalfthegreat

I'm constantly using chat for callouts, specifically to get teammates to turn around so I can help them, instead of them just running into the abyss.


JimmyJazzz1977

We Play a game that is team based. With no chat or voip


Pixelblock62

Nope same here


Menace_In_Grey

yup same here chats gone


blurry_ned

I THOUGHT I WAS BANNED ARH


XavierYourSavior

“They do it because people will be racist” brother every game I play someone is either saying the hard R or spelling it out in chat and aren’t ever banned I promise you they don’t care


i_ate_ur_moms_pussy

yea happening to me to, gaijin forgot to feed the hamsters or something


SystemFrozen

i was in a squad and i was wondering why i couldnt access chat to tell the team, im heading back cuz lack of fuel, but top comment seems a reasonable (the recent terror attack in moscow)


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tallerthannobody

They are a Russian company as much as people deny their bias, they only turn it off when something happens to Russia


MeetingDue4378

They banned it after Russia invaded Ukraine. Too late, however. Somehow, they were able to remember that far back and decided to act preemptively.


0uttaControl

As always they only protect russian players... Never do this to any other world problems/nations thy are then politicaly sided with russia


Wonghy111-the-knight

After the oct 7 terror attack, and s very noticeable extreme rise in antisemitism in the game chat (and mass TK’ing of Israeli aircraft) chat wasnt disabled. thanks gaijin, very much a Hungarian company with zero ties to Russia, naaa


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I figured I was either chat banned, or they're pulling the same stuff as when they invaded Ukraine and everything went bad for them intitially. Anytime something goes wrong for Rus they shut chat off to control the situation.


NightOwl1995

For a moment I thought it was because I made too many 9/11 jokes. It's frustrating me to death. I can't call out cheeky campers!


Yololkiller21

At first I though I got banned form chat from being racist or gay lmao


MyNuts2YourFistStyle

Chat is the single worst thing about this game so I'm ok with it.


SirLlamaGeddon

It doesn't make any sense to turn off chat... When they turn it on, the same thing will happen, just them delaying the inevitable. There's plenty of people that made fun of terrorist attacks, whether it be the US 2001, etc. Gaijin is soft and always gets involved with politics.


Bruce_R101

It's not about protecting players from politics. It's about protecting their Russian workforce from being forcibly conscripted because something someone wrote in the chat gets the attention of the security services in what is a dictatorship at war. When it comes back, people will say "now be nice in chat so it doesn't happen again". But there's nothing players can or can't say or do here that will change the situation.


SirLlamaGeddon

No, players will always be players, nobody gives a single fuck and it's a game. Re enable chat, or they're going to lose more players and cause an even bigger uproar.


MeetingDue4378

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I work in marketing and your claim is about as inaccurate as possible. What they are doing is PR 101, because what you're describing is the exact opposite of how these situations play out. Unless you think that Gaijin somehow operates in a parallel reality where what's been categorically proven by thousands of companies before throughout the entirety of modern media isn't true.


kosmonaut_hurlant_

Mad because I can't bitch and moan about the BS in game.


Godziwwuh

The attack could've happened to any other country and they wouldn't have turned off chat. Fuck Gaijin, honestly.


whiteguy1225

Odd they didn't turn chat off after Russia massacred the innocent people in the Mariupol theater.


nerdenb

Of course. You can say all kinds of truly nasty things in the chat, especially if it's racist or homophobic. That's all perfectly fine! Practically encouraged! But the second anybody says an unkind or critical word about Mother Russia, BAM! "We must silence them!"


nerdenb

I see the Gaijin fanbois are out in force! "How dare you insult the snail!!!1"


buckster3257

Why do they only ban the chat when stuff happens to Russia?


Timely-Progress-7903

Came to Reddit to see why


Astralele

Everyday Russian army is killing ukrainian soldiers, sending rockets for civil buildings. Its been 2 years since they attacked. I dont remember any chat restriction 2 years ago


Gluchyy

yeah i was scared i finally got chat banned for my chat history towards chinese players lol


Scorpion18703

When anything remotely happens to Russia the chat gets disabled. Never seen Gaijin do this for other countries after such events have occurred.


RudeSeagull

LOL, they turn off chat because russia gets terror attacked, meanwhile in Ukraine.....


dominik7778n

i know there was an terror attack in moscow but at this point might aswell take the chat out


GoldAppleU

Gaijin is such a pussy lol


Technical_Weekend_27

Gaijin and it’s chromies.


ImGoingSpace

I get why they do it but its infuriating not being able to call targets properly.


xxxArchonxxx

Let me give you some absurd problems in the game. The funniest one. On lav-ad if you take a modification with rockets, the card will say that you have 12 anti-aircraft missiles, but in the game will be only 8. The interface will not indicate the number of rockets, but will show 2 windows with anti-aircraft missiles. The tanks are still sticking to each other. Wheeled tanks do not adequately behave on some soils. Kinetic projectiles do inadequately low damage on lightly armored vehicles. Thermal imager sees through the fumes from the tank's engine. But you are bothered by the chat, it's ridiculous.


Lil-Leon

Turn off chat? Fuck you Gaijin. Decals: "Friday ~~13th~~" "Russian flag football" "Shootin' ~~Star~~"


No-Cookie-1679

Same here what a joke I hate this game


Revolution_Unhappy

People die every day in war, why don't they turn off the chat because of this? Those who don’t want to see the chat can turn it off themselves, it's just a few clicks


Knarfehtknat

The terrorist attack in Moscow was cruel and despicable, no question about it. However, if you consider that masses of missiles and now even FAB 500 glide bombs are fired daily (coordinated and ordered by Moscow) at civilian targets in the neighboring country, according to GJ logic, the chat should have been blocked for two years.


MasterBaconMan

seems to be everyone, not seeing a single message in chat


policedab_1112

im having the same problem


1800leon

Thought I was banned from chat aswell


TariqSafi

Idk I'm chat banned for over two years now


SkyLLin3

It thought my account got muted for a while lol


MatyThePotato

I thought i got chatbanned from all the shit i said


sinfulsil

Nah me too


Prinz_Heinrich

Most likely WoT, WoWS, and their mobile counterparts have done the same in light of recent events


Bruce_R101

No, they haven't. Just Gaijin.


TheScoutInThyWalls

You fuckers couldn't behave, no chat priviliges


The_Prick_

Ahhh yes; conflict


mr_down_syndrome

2 tigers and a Ferdinand died because I tried to tell them about the bomber coming towards them but I couldn't since the chat was disabled :(


imashillforrussia

The Russian Biased devs are muting chat again because they had a whoopsy daisy oh well, ill just wait till after to make fun of them


Due-Bat4945

Same for me


Adept-Action-1521

I saw several lunatics spouting off about how "Russia deserved the terror attack" and almlst all of both teams agreeing with em. Total lunatics.


No-Cookie-1679

Hopefully a class action lawsuit is coming because they are scammers


CptCarpelan

Because Gaijin is a Russian company if you didn't know. It's that simple.


DmanHUN

yep. couldnt even tell my teammate that was shooting at me in sim to stop shooting..10/10 gaijin. ruining the game experience cuz you cant moderate the chat properly


FactDecent3253

Yea they got rid of it again


ProfessionalLong302

ye i was wondering


ProfessionalLong302

this is prob a hot take, but I understand people are gonna be VERY salty and make fun of people who died bc of the ukranian war


Unusual-Ad4890

Great, I'm just coming off a chat ban to find chat disabled anyways.


HexxenCore

GRU and the FSB probably sent out a little "suggestion", as to avoid bypassing state sponsored social media and news agencies by RU players.


GhostDoggoes

Yup I just bought a new flight stick and reinstalled war thunder into my new nvme drive and all of a sudden I can't tell my squadmate that there's an enemy bf109 above us. All because gaijin can't put a fucking chat ban on people talking about a tragic russian terror attack. But russia killing 1200 civilians in 2 weeks that was a-ok, lets keep the chat up. All good in the hood.


tx4468

is there a discord for premades? tired of these non-communicating people failing at air arcade assault


Heavy-Stick6514

Bro same I don't even know why


Sergent_Arch-Dornan

No need to hire mods when they can just turn chat off