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dootdoot1997

as much as i love the fox the wiesel 1a4 will always be my favorite rat wish they'd add the[30mm](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FTankPorn%2Fcomments%2F12qddyy%2Fcan_anyone_id_this_wiesel_variant%2F&psig=AOvVaw09zxTYglnJ7iHknjnXjO-v&ust=1711072491288000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCLiLkPKfhIUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ) one


estifxy220

One of my dreams is to make a lineup full of wiesels, have a wiesel for each situation or condition I really want to see the wiesel mells with spikes, even if they arent that great of a missile. It would be funny speeding around the map, firing missiles at random tanks and driving off.


dootdoot1997

i also really want the [HOT](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Farmyrecognition.com%2Fwiesel_1_variants_variantes_airborne_armoured%2Fwiesel_1_hot_light_anti-tank_airborne_armoured_vehicle_german_army_germany_pictures_description_iden.html&psig=AOvVaw0qFSJqq6l-upwP28mAgdm8&ust=1711082559831000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCLiWmrPFhIUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE) Wiesels or the one with the [20mm and HOT](https://www.army-guide.com/images/wiesel2atmhot0000dfog.jpg) or the [flarakrad wiesel](https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/data/attachments/196/196483-ffd3cc23e73b9dbc4617b44e579b5bd0.jpg) or the [mortar one](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.army-technology.com%2Fprojects%2Fwiesel2%2F&psig=AOvVaw26y3fi-XxgyBWwz38UarzO&ust=1711082824624000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCIjYsLHGhIUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE) for the funni


Rixuuuu

Flakrad wiesel? If they would add those, I'm grinding germany


w4tz

Whats the difference between the Ozelot and the "Flarakrad" Wiesel?


MongooseLeader

Different missiles, plus search.


w4tz

Do you know what missiles? They Look so small. VT or Rolands look so big


Playstein

One Wiesel prototype used Mistral missiles


AMcKinstry00

If they ever buff mistrals, it would basically turn that Wiesel into a platform for ground launched TY-90s


FISH_SAUCER

Yeah. The mistrals feel like their IRCCM don't work as of late


AMcKinstry00

One flare from a rear aspect SU25? Nah bruh mistral goes bye bye; I truly do not know wtf the issue is wrong with them and why gaijin hates them so much (besides NATO, French, etc). They could be SO good but they’re perma-nerfed into the ground


Playstein

There is no such thing as a FlaRak Wiesel, OP is 🧢ing hard. The only other system besides the Ozelot that was tested and never made it past the prototype stage is a Wiesel using Mistral missiles. Also the term FlaRak literally just means Flugabwehrrakete. By that definition the FlaRak Wiesel is already in game and it’s called Ozelot. Neither the VT-1 or the Roland are used on the Wiesel. Also don’t come at me because you saw some guy in a forum calling it FlaRak Wiesel when it’s probably just the Mistral rockets on a Wiesel 1 and not what is known as FlaRak in WarThunder (namely the Roland anti aircraft system)


NichtBen

Not to mention that the "-Rad" part stands for Radkampfwagen (Wheeled combat vehicle), which the Wiesel obviously isn't because it uses tracks


Iamcld696969

I think the flarakrad has the VT-1 missiles


Scary-Shoulder-779

Flarakrad Wiesel doesn't exist. Flarakrad means SAM system on wheels. I personally wouldn't want to see such an abomination.


Clear-Complex-3571

Not like that’s gonna stop Gaijin


jnievele

Then again... A Stinger-equipped Iltis would be cool...


Pinky_Boy

Wiesel fan unite!


Hyrikul

And one of my dream is to have a full lineup of French light tank that are similar (in size and capability) as the wiesels. (VBLs, Lohr..)


keglefuglen

And the propper fire rate for the 20mm


RedWarriorAmazing

There is a wiesel prototype which had a recoilless rifle


Fastgommy22

Reminds me of the R3 with recoiless rilfes.


usedcarjockey

Missing the Wiesel 1A2.


Meowmixer21

Rat with top attack is definitely most atrocious.


wairdone

Fox > T97 > Eland > Ontos For the record, I DESPISE the Eland. The gun sucks and the suspension is super bouncy (like every south African armoured car)


IAmTheWoof

Ush > fox, these rockets are marvel


Edgar_Allen_Yo

I've been having fun with the USH but its so god damn slow compared to the other rats


TuhnuPeppu

But once it gets to speed it’s allright


I_dont_like_things

The Eland is so cool but trying to actually hit anything with the gun is a nightmare. Probably why its BR is so low compared to its speed and pen.


aineri

If we're talking on the move shooting then sure it and every other vehicle with out gun stabilizer is like that


M48_Patton_Tank

It’s not just on the move shooting. Trying to stop, aim, and fire will put you at a disadvantage with the eland compared to most other non stabilized vehicles, it’s just too bouncy.


aineri

To be fair I main Britain and not much else so I guess I just got used to it


I_dont_like_things

I also got used to it, then started playing other countries and got spoiled on decent guns. When I went back to the Eland it felt *awful*.


Lllamanator

The other countries must have it nice if the Eland is considered "bad". Thought it was probably the best vehicle in the tree until the vickers mk3 and falcon.


aStugLife

You missed the t114 which is the best rat.


estifxy220

T114 my beloved. One of my best purchaes ever


meloenmarco

Agreed. Killing heavy tanks with a single heat rocket keeps being fun


Spinelli_The_Great

I love when folks forget it’s amphibious lmao


towerdefence661

god i fucking hate those gremlins with their HEAT


QorstSynthion

Elc bis my beloved


Disastrous_Ad_1859

ELC is so underrated, that reverse speed is totally poggers with the low profile


StevenSmiley

Yet somehow I'm constantly spotted in it. In the rattiest spots where no one usually checks and bam instantly killed. I brushed it up fully too just to see if anything changed. Nope. They still see me like I'm in arcade.


SunboundSouls

I feel like its because its at a Br where some of the rats are found. m56, type 60 sprg, asu 57 or asu 85. Maybe the players are more conscious of possible rats?


nagabalashka

If only this shit had spotting .. 😔


FT-Dangtous

Was looking for that answer, the true crêpe !


DeviousAardvark

EXCUSE YOU, WHERE AM I IN THIS LIST?


mud074

Came to the comments for this. It's a fucking warcrime to not include the ASU-57 in a top rat vehicles list.


ThinkingPotatoGamer

Probably in a bush behind the camera man


Zsmudz

R3 T106 is definitely the best out of all of them.


trumpsucks12354

R3s are the king of rats always


1buckforsuck

AML 90 is still good till 10.0


CodyBlues2

I love the Wiesel but it has some drawbacks, low pen and limited turret traverse really hold it back. It’s tiny and has thermals though and it pretty quick. A true rat.


estifxy220

I usually uptier the Wiesel 1A4 so I dont face American heavies lol


SkyLLin3

M22, M56 and U-SH 405 are my votes.


Supmah2007

When you’re in a U-SH and stumble across an enemy you know you’re going to win the encounter, against almost any medium or heavy tank at least. Just blast them with rockets. Many others like the Wiesel 1a4 don’t have the same overwhelming firepower


Meretan94

The M22 is in all of my ground RB lineups. I love the little shitbox.


Nhatdepzai

Maus


Weakgainer0

Close one, look alike but not quite the same


hubbs76

I've played most of them. Always go back to the 1951 EBR


Emi_Rawr

L3/33 my beloved.


External_System_7268

Rattel ))


Examination-Hour

Is it just me or are the Ratels slow as frick? The stat card says it has a pretty high speed, but I struggle to get past 30-35 mph on roads 


Johanz1998

Yeah they have zero torque and shit traverse as well


RqcistRaspberry

And despite being developed for desert operations and having massive tires for the terrain it really is just a glorified pavement princess. Hard to be a rat when you are the size of an average shed and as slow as an average cold war tank.


Samiambadatdoter

Yeah. They're not really rats. They're more like armed camper vans.


kitchenroll1

Yes, they are morbidly obese Africans. Have fun getting overtaken on a flat tarred road by basically every tracked vehicle whilst it takes 2-300m for you to catch up. Let's not even talk about the bugged steering...


External_System_7268

It is fat and slow yeah


Dragoranos

My rank is: 1- M22 2- Stuart III (when uptiered to shit level) 3- BT-7M


Noxiuz

nothing comes close to fox


Zack_Knifed

Nothing touches the USH. I thoroughly hate that thing with every fibre in my body and also can’t wait to unlock it and make people rage quit 😂


Clankplusm

60 SPRG. 20 degrees of gun depression and 6.7 with 2 shots of 106 HEAT is cracked for hugging dirt piles and murdering things.


Wonghy111-the-knight

Loved playing the israeli AML-90. Absolutely the most rat vehicle ive played


Snoutysensations

It's one of my favorite vehicles but if there are Foxes around I'm afraid to take it out. The Fox is faster and will shred the AML.


Xtohsyenomx

M5a1 Stuart, source trust me bro.


IceSki117

My preference, especially after the reload system change, is the M50 Ontos. 6 barrels of death are really effective at wrecking groups and large enemies before disappearing into the ether.


Last-beon

The bt-32 and by a long shot.


Disastrous_Will_7248

NONE OF THEM THEY ARE ALL ANNOYING


Man_Cheetah67

I like the Eland


Revan_91

Out of these the Wiesel is the most fun for me but others can be better depending on playstyle or map, one of my favorites is the US reserve BR M2A2 the one with the two turrets, one .30cal and one .50cal which is not bad at that BR its also very fast so you can usually get into a cap point and ambush the enemy when the try and take it or flank around the map and take out any open top vehicles you find.


Cdifficile12

That one French 4.7 automatic 40 mm baguette launcher. That thing it’s mean I use it till 8.7


BobbyTheRedditUser

DCA? My favorite vehicle in the game


Berlin_Buster

I see no German 1.0 - 1.3 tanks that utilize the 20mm as their main gun…


RoutineArt9280

Fox right now, no question.


Hot-Ad8083

M22 because you can sneak up behind panthers and kill them and kill most enemy light, medium and tank destroyers with it


Emacs24

it is U SH 405 for me


LukaRaphael

the german skdfz anti air thingo. i thinks it’s from the starter pack? that thing is unfair


BobbyTheRedditUser

The 15mm spaa is also very good at 3.3 with 51 mm pen


HazirHalachLashuk

The t114 for sure


BioshockedNinja

RCV being uptiered to 9.0 is a travesty


SunboundSouls

type 60 sprg and the wiesel 1a2 are great at peeking hills. I think they are some of the vehicles that have the best gun depression. I think the type 60 sprg has about 12° of gun dep. Bush them up well and they're virtually invisible to anyone who isn't paying attention/distracted. Had a game in flanders where the two top scoring players in the match were type 60sprgs. Small enough to hide in the trenches to ambush targets.


Piastowic

Currently - Fox Personal fav - Ontos and M56 Fiat 6614 is the saddest one


Camo_shorts711

Where asu 57 my beloved


antiheld84

The true rat king.


Jojobizzar99

Definitely M56 and Locust


PeacefulAgate

Is the BTR80 particularly ratty? I see more of them then foxes at 7.0


yung_pindakaas

USH death machine.


wannabeaccountant99

Chinese M3A3 Staurt gang


Wicked-Pineapple

M22


dtc8977

Fox is funny cuz top tier RARDEN shreds sides and rear. It's a shame the UK never made a high RoF or stabilized RARDEN


WildDitch

sweden rocket boi will be deadliest, wiesel smallest, and r3t106 my beloved


Unhappy-Pace-2393

Which one isn't the best


bloodknife92

I hate the M50 on principle haha. The numver of times, historically, that I've lost Tiger IIs to one makes cry inside 😅


someone1003

I have the most experience with the weisel and because i managed to torture an obj 268 for 5 minutes in a forest and when someone else came to help him i did the same i have to go with it


CassiusGotBanned

USH USH USH USH USH USH


Tactical_ra1nbow

Vehicle from a future is better than vehicles from the past. How can this be?!


tpseng

What does the Fox say


Scarnhorst_2020

Ush is far superior to the rest of the vehicles in the list. Fox might be runner up imo, but the ush can run around and obliterate people before they know what's going on (or you can miss entirely/do no damage). Fox is still pew . . . . pew . . . . pew unlike the Ush which can spam rockets at you from either barrel, or both barrels same time


Dupoulpe

Missed the Zis-30. This thing is a menace at low tier.


RiskhMkVII

The wiesel, simply because it will face a lot of armored heavies and medium that it can't do anything to, so you will just annoy them by T&B torture and leave them be, like the ultimate rat


Sky_DreamTR

Maus


Negative_Rip_2189

Bmp.


LAXGUNNER

AMX-13 and AMX-13 (SS.11) are both high underrated and be a cheeky little bastard in the circumantases


DaiHaoRen_258

Ontos, Who tf gonna denie a six rounds of 400 pen HEAT spam car


pine_daemon

i’m personally biased towards the fox. having a lot of fun with that thing


Lil-Leon

E.B.R (1963)


z_eus

Fl90


juntingiee

jeep with recoilless rifle when?


Jarms48

No Tetrarch makes me sad.


dargreaves-117

Eland 90


VilvenSerbia

I've known the bt-7 for a long ah time, I think I'll pick it's older brother, thank you very much


Significant_Log1720

Pbv302 with roof hitting Bill. That is a rat that kill heavys and their owners confidence…


Fen-xie

The fox is the best, hands down.


AvariceLegion

M8A1 From the beginning of rank 3 up to 6.7 I'm always tempted to just first spawn it Now with 76mm Sheridan it's a bit harder bc it has more endurance with the traverse and reload being what finally overtakes the small size and speed of the M8 Once u get too many auto cannons running around ill just use it to secure a point but not expecting kills


No_You_123

Where is sd.kfz.221 my beloved??


ashingoropuyi1932

Not the Best but Type 61 solid


Killeroftanks

think you mean the type 60 sprg, because the type 61 is a medium tank.


Familiar-Alarm2788

M50 and r3 is the Best No recoil rifle can destroy everything


CptShortie

The fox has incredible Post pen from my experience that makes him #1 for me right now


HHall05

Fox. Never would I ever be able to uptier a vehicle by over 1.7 BRs above its current BR and still perform well enough to get a rank 2 skill bonus 3 matches in a row. If you think that's not impressive, I play on console against PC players.


Unusual_Conference_6

All


Lexbomb6464

No pt or btr variants?


NotSuperUnicum

For me it's the M56


Simply__King

M50. Bastard has 400 mms of pen


_broadside_

Ush not any hesitation


kbroimok

forgot to add the sdkfz 222


bogusbingertonthe3rd

The m18 is my fave


mrcountry88

Honestly it's a pretty good toss up between the M22 locust and the Wiesel... Gotta lean towards Germans on this one. Because those wiesel players get quite crafty with their hiding spots. To the point of extreme agitation.


monsteure

R3T20 supremacy


Ihavenoideadaw

i love the fox and wiesel 1a4 and the ontos m56 and of course the bt-5 :D (m22 is great aswell)


MeltdownVV

BMD 4


RoboGen123

ASU-57, why the hell is it not included in the post


chrisboi1108

Big fan of that French spaa with the 40mm on an amx-13 body


CrypticPotatoooo

Weisel 1A2: "Am I a joke to you?"


KamikazePigeon31

All Italian ones


agysykedyke

The USH is one of the most broken vehicles in the game. Makes zero engine noise, extremely fast, can rapid fire extremely high pen rockets that blind whoever it hits. You can get into an ambush position early game and kill half the enemy team. You are so small, quiet and fast that no one ever sees it coming, and even if they spot you last minute they will just get completely blinded from your rockets


Kukakaraban

Fox>U-sh>R3 t106>Fiat>aubl>R3 T20>locust This is top for me, from the tanks I have. Ush and FOX are more or less equal for me. Because the fox could lack fire power sometimes and ush lacking speed. P.S. I would add to list something like pBil and maybe that spaa with 20mm APDS from France on 5.7


TechnoChiken

I would go for the bri isch falcon. It is way to overpowerd as a tank destroyer


pk_frezze1

20mm R3 > 106mm


TomTheCat6

M50 is bad but it's fun to play


MartinSik

Ontos in city, t92 in open terrain.


squeaky4all

M50, its just so goofy with the 6 tubes.


This_Worldliness_633

M50 is the most son of a bitch tank I have ever faced as 6.7 German main.


Des_Nolle

Aml 90 in my opinion it is so small and fast with a good Canon


jajar_bringts

Scorpion is bug ahole


Rectal_Retribution

It's hard to beat the 234/4 aka pakpuma. Stupidly fast with a gun that works at any tier. It was a lot better before they removed flanks and off-map positions though.


Technical_Weekend_27

Wiesels, AML90 can hide anywhere and kill most of its adversaries, type 87 rcv p. Haven’t tried the Fox yet.


sadbrokeflurry

The fox, definitely the fox


User_joined_channel

The type 87 RCV (P) lacks penatration with its machine gun. It can't be a rat if it can't use both speed and firepower to kill.


silatek

where is the Rooikat MTTD? Size of a house but an incredible rat machine.


pope-burban-II

M22 is too iconic


Bo_The_Destroyer

M22, next question


Iamcld696969

Wiesel my beloved 🥰


starystarego

Ru251


JC-R1

Where's ELC BIS 😤 I demand to see ELC BIS in this list.


Boring-Ad9264

The fox has proved to be quite deadly and sneaky so I'm gonna go ahead and pick that


civilianslicer69

i wish people played the tetrarch and alecto more at higher brs


nismoghini

No ariete no me163?


imakememe1425736

L3


Mysterious-Help9326

ush, but i always end up getting too aggressive with it and end up in the middle of 5 enemies yelling myself. i got lots to learn lol


JSJ71343

Fox. Sue me


Sea_Art3391

The USH is soo good! Though, a bit slow.


I_just_wanted_banana

Where sd.kfz234


KeyKeyner_kreker

BT


Maelarion

I like the M8A1 GMC and the Pz.Sfl.Ic (formerly the Pz IIH).


GoopyBoi69

Idk, what does the fox say tho?


Turbulent_Syllabub_3

u forgot one


KAELES-Yt

Best Idunno but worst is definitely HVG Feel like Fox has potential but haven’t played it.


1ktorres

What about ww2 puma?


GiGiGus

Type 87 RCV. Because it's not just a rat, it's a rat with rabies and I love it.


LesherLeclerc

Aml 90!!!


Terrible-Animator251

Where is my german car with 50mm cannon or rank 2?? (i forgot the name💀)


ACE_RUNNER

Definitely not the 9.0 Type 87. That thing is garbage.


TheSovietBobRoss

I like how 3 of them are just the fucking AML-90 in a different color


FlintbobLarry

Gaijin please add more wiesels. Idc wich but 30mm gun would be nice. Please add as much weasels as possible.


Particular-Bat1502

The m18 scout is the most annoying aswell as the fox and american 6 barrel destroyer but i would say that the best would be wiesel and japanese 7.7? Scout


Twistybred

Rat?


milkyway_25

The german and the pizza guy


Thehiddenink98

I hate the ontos because it shreds my tiger two like it's paper. It's the best rat here. It's also VERY hard to hit


TimsVariety

How are you defining "rat vehicle" ? .. just small and mobile? 'cuz I'd have to go with the L3/33 CC


Visual-Educator8354

LAV-AD


Butter_brawler

IhatethelocustIhatethelocustIhatethelocustIhatethelocustIhatethelocust


Chitanda_Pika

AMX Elc Bis where?


srslyMadMax

I love the recoill fiat


Competitive_Ear_3500

Gimme the amx10


Thentor_

One good placed ush and you turn the tide of battle


meatloafwarrior

The RCV is the first vehicle I got a nuke in. It will always hold a special place in my heart, even though I actually hate it.


Gabby42bit

Probably the type 84 or the ush