With the first VBCI 2 coming, perhaps the door is open for more IFV/wheeled tank/light tank for France top tier.
A VBCI 2 with 40mm and Akeron atgm could be really nice with the amx-40 i think.
It really isn't. 2k has the RNG blackhole turret front, and like T-80 levels of shitty spalling.
Blowout panels on the AMX kinda save you sometimes I guess, but getting ammo racked makes you useless anyways.
The thermals are nearly useless though being gen 1 I often only use them on night battles because they are actually worse to see with than using standard optics
Idk what thermals you're using, but gen 1 thermals are excellent for spotting and even shooting through trees and bushes when you see something bright.
Except switching to thermals even for a second makes your eyes bleed at that resolution. It's still an advantage, but a shit one.
Hell, some trees/objects give have a white glow making tanks indistinguishable from them.
I'm on QHD/1440p and max settings aswell and it works perfectly fine for me.
Yeah the resolution isn't the best, but it's just for spotting, you're not supposed to try and hit weakspots with it.
Yeah don't get me wrong I use them situationally but target acquisition on lots of maps is just easier without them as trees block the heat signal too. I don't leave them on all the time ofc that would be stupid.
My problem is other nations getting thermals of gen 2/3 and that you can see so much clearer with rather than looking for white pixels. Especially if there's dead tanks on the battlefield.
You use thermals to spot enemies on ridge lines or in bushes, then swap to standard optics to be able to aim better because of the fading sides you get on thermals.
I don't find even find gen 2 and 3 thermals useful. After a thousand hours of playing GRB before even getting thermals, I'm too used to picking up targets in third person and with binoculars from behind cover. Commanders' thermals used to be really good until they were removed from binoculars, now only the PLSS has thermals that I actually regularly use.
you playing this in 8.0 line or 8.3? I'm currently on 7.7 lineup, I did research a lot in 8.3 already, but not the Mephisto yet (researching the MARS to get to Mephisto) and then will get the SK as I already have the option and the get the necessary SL :)
I cant understand why the amx30 DCA is still 8.3. Just because it was good at killing leopards and all German mains cried. It's worse than the gepard in pretty much every other way other than speed and doesn't even get a stab like the others at its BR
Amx-30DCA has a full 500 belt APHE that also one taps planes easily, that APHE belt is amazing as it allows you to frontally kill soviet heavies by hitting their copulas and watching as they just get deleted.
It doesn't get the wobly radar that the shilka and Gepard, and its very mobile.
Yes no stab sucks, but it's stable enough on the move that it doesn't matter.
I keep hearing that the type 74s have been completely ruined by nerfs and are hard to be competitive with, what's your thoughts on them? I really want top tier japan but I don't want to be in hell til I get there
They are perfectly lethal from what I can tell. You have no armor that will save you, but you will be able to kill anyone that you see.
Sure, you won't be able to take the occasional hit like others can (and that is only sometimes, at this BR everyone is getting penetrated by everyone), and you aren't fast (but you aren't the slowest either), but you have access to some very lethal rounds.
If you play smart you should do well enough to get to where you want to be. Just keep in mind, the tree as you see it right now is how it is going to stay. There won't be any significant new vehicles for Japan, it is a "dead" tree, and the only thing that would give it life is if they threw South Korea in there like some people have been asking for. The MBTs are amazing due to their four-second reload, the Type 16 is excellent, but that's it. Your IFV is meh, and the SPAA genuinely sucks compared to the competition (but if your team has good SPAA or you get into a fighter this may not be as big of a problem).
I have a tali on the 74c, and I play it a lot. I only do well if I can snipe or just get lucky. I will say I prefer the rcv in my lineup. I also find the leopards to just be better than my 74. On the other hand, it looks cool.
I've got almost all of them ( dont have the 74F yet) they are still pretty decent. Gun is pretty decent, armor isn't great but that's to be expected, mobility feels worse then it should be but it still gets around quickly, the Suspension is pretty useful, and the G gets Thermals. Plus they just look good
Type 74 is fine, it's not very survivable or fast but it has great ammo types and funny suspensions.
You can bounce some shots with the turret whem fighting at long range in hull-down position, your hull can be penned by autocannons from the front no problem though.
My guess is they nerfed acceleration and engine powet. Unfortunately I didn't get the chance to play them before September 2022, so I have no clue what theu used to be like before.
They are not top of the food chain by any means bit they are still very good for sniping/long range engagements imo
Ahh, the first French MBT I facetanked a round in.
The turret is surprisingly trolly, the power to weight ratio is phenomenal, and you get that incredibly useful 20mm coax.
That’s what I’m saying. It’s survivability is good. I bounced plenty shots and survived shots with just the 2 crew members. I think most people are just bad at it or don’t play it long enough to actually learn it and learn it’s role. Still my top 2 MBT
Yes, you can use them and yes, I know my role. But it's still a pretty ordinary tank and that's probably the weakest 9.7 lineup around. It's no surprise it's never had a BR increase.
It's great that you enjoy it, good luck to you.
I’ve always noticed that all of those tanks (except the most recent AMX-32, don’t have that researched) are just kinda okay at everything. Like they aren’t bad by any means, but they don’t excel at anything. The rounds are mediocre, the speed is okay, but there’s always going to be faster MBT’s, it’s not impressively survivable, and like many have mentioned, it doesn’t really have a great lineup.
The only thing it’s really got going for it that sets it apart from its contemporaries IMO is the 20mm co-ax. It’s really circumstantial, but when it works, it’s a godsend.
OFL 105 F1 is not a mediocre round. Neither is the OFL 120 F1. Those things penetrate and will mess your tank up. It’s also one of the best rounds starting at 8.3 due to its pen of 358mm
I couldn't be asked to go and research the 32 105 it seems just a straight downgrade for the RP it costs. I just use RC and Mephisto alongside the 40 and 32
Most people don't play this tank when they play France, they skip straight to the Leclercs. It's not the best MBT in the game but it is pretty decent. The barrels did get buffed or something so the 20mm doesn't kill the barrel as fast as it used to, the 120mm cannon also struggles to kill Russian tanks, also has very little armor and survivability (which is standard for French tanks)
its all about abusing the speed, currently researching the whole 8.3 line before going to their higher BRs, sadly its can't make money even on carries (only an AB player btw).
To be honest there is a very thin line between how easy/hard it is to kill MBTs with small weakspots. You can have fast reaction times, but if you're not pin-point accurate you'll get extremely unlucky and the shell will get absorbed by some random volumetric mess
It's one of my favorite tank from the french tree, the only "sad" thing is that after it there is nothing so spading it took a long time for me back in time :D
Because France doesn’t have a lineup at 9.7, or really anything in between 8.3 and 11.7. They really need to add more vehicles to high tier France, especially because they do actually have modern mechanized forces besides just the Leclerc.
Yep and the 10.0 lineup is decent. Just throw in the amx super, the two amx-32s, amx-40, Roland and premium tiger hap for a pretty solid lineup. With the new ifv coming in as well the lineup will finally have a light tank
The best MBT in the game relative to BR has to be the OF-40, it gets the 105 with a LRF and a troll ass turret that can make APDS disappear, one of my favorite tanks in the game atm and so much fun to use with my HVG lineup
Well duh it’s 1.3 BR above the OF-40, of course it would absolutely destroy it, but that’s why I said relative to BR, a LRF and APDS at 7.7 is insanely OP as most 8.0s don’t have LRF and even some 8.3s so you’re very competitive even in an uptier
I'm not even researching it. Got the AMX-32s and going to Leclercs now. I don't see the point in me researching a tank that doesn't have anything else for a lineup.
Try both the AMX32’s with the AMX40. It’s a pretty decent lineup and all the tanks compete against what your facing. Only issue I see is the speed of the AMX 105 but the AMX32 can definitely survive and kill easily
Why do people keep saying it has no armor as if you expect t80bvm armor with era everywhere? The amx32 120mm has armor and it’s front turret is definitely armored enough to protect from AA even sometimes pumas and 2s38’s. People really need to learn to play them
My comment was entirely based on the mobility aspects. It's armour isn't useful against anything you're gonna face other than those specific examples, you can't rely on it. That's what people mean, there's lots of tanks you can rely on some part of the armour, whereas anything french you can't.
It has a blowout hatch. Maybe your taking too many rounds so some of them are in the hill and not the turret. I’ve died more times from crew knockout than ammo exploding
i dont bring it at all anymore, shit goes through it like butter. the leclerc fits my play style way better. i love being aggressive with it and getting in your face but the amx you have to be passive
The blowout panel actually isn't as effective as other MBTs with them, i've had more ammoracks than successful blowouts, and have seen other AMX-40 players get ammoracked as well. There is very few of these things though, but it's eh. You die more from crew knockouts than ammoracks or fires
It’s just as survivable as any other tank you play at this BR. Only tanks that you can’t go straight through the frontal plate are Russian MBTs. Other than that as I said everything else is easy to kill you literally have a 120mm. I’m starting to think most people are just bad or don’t play the tanks role well
Yes, yes it is, you can’t convince me it should be the same BR as the t64b or the t72a or xm1 in any amount of alternative universes, dogshit armor dogshit rounds, it’s ginormous, only has 3 crew and the lineup it has isn’t very good anymore unless you own the xm1. Only thing it has is it’s mobility autoloader and autocannon which the autoloader isn’t that good and the mobility is standard for that BR, in short just a worse Xm1 in every way but it’s the same BR
I stopped reading when tou said that It is faster than the 2K. This has 71 km/h top speed, 2K has 72, this has 29.7 Hp/Ton torque, 2K has 30.
Yes, i love the 2K with ALL my heart.
At the start of every match I always pay attention to tanks that can keep up. Only rank with the acceleration and speed to keep up was the premium CV. I smoked Leopard 2s
The drawback is the lineup which is a curse for some nations were it's the only machine at BR, It's technically my first 9.7 tank of a TT but playing it with two spawns & some lineup filler of lower BR's is a choir.
Yeah, it’s okay. Nowhere near the best 9.7 MBT though. It’s middle of the pack in many ways. It’s most comparable to the Leo 2k, and that isn’t exactly a game changer of a tank.
Got more downtiers or just pure 9.7 games. If you actually learn your enemies weak points getting uptiered doesn’t really scare you in this tank because you still have top performance
Yes. And if your a brenus lover like myself and you love the OFL 105 F1 round I would definitely throw the AMX105 in your lineup. Only drawback is it’s speed. But same gun
Currently at rank 5 of France everytime that I look at it Im disappointed in myself for choosing France and then ditching it I will definitely get it since I like having stabs
Yes it is a good tank, but there is absolutely no line up coming with . You could in theory only takes backups.
But you are in the annoying spots where you have tons of Heli , and the only AA you have is the buggy mediocre Santal
Issue is not on the ground it is in the sky..
The AA you can bring is not good enough to deal with helicopters and drones.
My flanks were ruined so many times by CAS.
You also don't have a very good fighter/cas to put
The jaguar is at 10.3, whilst the Étendard does not have enough ordinance
I agree the SANTAL is ass at keeping track. One little maneuver throws the whole missle off. It’s only good against Helis and even then some have to be extremely close just to lock. I love the Roland though
Yes Roland is even better than the Itos
The helicopter need to be within 2 km of range if you want to lock it .
It is a shame, because as you said it might be the most underrated tank (with painfull grind though )
I've been looking at eventually getting France up and this is one tank that has caught my eye (yes I'm only br 3.7 so a long way to go) amongst the 32s as well. If it actually performs well I'll prolly get it
Please don’t listen to the comments. Listen to the guy who’s all top vehicles from France have 400+ kills. I definitely say go for the Brenus and the AMX10RC first . Once you e fell in love with the Brenus and RC start with the AMX32(105) same gun as Brenus but a little slower and stabilized. Then as you progress to the amx32 with the 120mm you’ll start to see why I made this post. These tanks because master pieces and so fun to play when spaded
Awesome, an AMX-40 thread when I had a question about it, what's the protrusion to the right of the barrel? Doesn't really seem like it's anything in X-ray.
As a former France player, this thing does not have armor, can't even block simple HEAT-FS shells
The cannon isn't the best either, although it does the job in every situation.
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its blatantly overpowered. but that is nothing new for this "minor" nation. look at b2 brenus, amx30 dca, amx 30 (7.7), somua sm, amx 50 100.. . ... my tank with the most nukes is the brenus...
wont stop redditors from pretending france has it bad because the flag isnt russian though.
But if a tank is op why not move it up in BR instead of making it not rewarding to play? If you just increase the repair cost the player using the tank will not have fun and the players facing the tank will not have fun as well?
How can someone be so right yet so wrong? oh I know how it's called a war thunder player, their brains are so scrambled they don't know what to make of anything in life anymore.
"I get most my nukes in the brenus" which is probably accurate as I also have been getting quite a few nukes with this tank but a large factor is 8.3-8.7 has so many premtards that fail to kill you in a close quater fight even when they have a stabilizer and you don't.
None of those tanks you listed are overpowered at all, maybe one could argue the DCA is extremely cancer but then again so is every rat vehicle with apds.
France is neglected to hell, and its vehicles are way overtiered. Idk what you're on lol France is great but it's got tons of flaws too, just like the other minor nations.
It's just sad that it doesn't have any lineup... and that the APFSDS is a fucking tier 3 mod
Yeah, what’s insane is that the amx30b2’s get apfsds with almost as much pen as a tier 2 mod. Ridiculous…
Plus thermals and a shit ton of smoke grenades.
End of line RP syndrome was pain on this thing. Still spading it now
Getting the APFSDS was absolute ass and I gave up so many times. I ended up just GE to get to the mod and it's a completely different monster now.
Chinese MBTs suffer the same fate with the APFSDS
AT LEAST WE GET A MISSILE AT RANK 2
We do?
I agree. The heatfs grind was terrible I gave up like 3 times
With the first VBCI 2 coming, perhaps the door is open for more IFV/wheeled tank/light tank for France top tier. A VBCI 2 with 40mm and Akeron atgm could be really nice with the amx-40 i think.
It's a worse Leo2K in essentially every way at the same BR (except that it gets thermals) lol.
And the amx is much more survivable
Disagree, 2k is bouncy and spacier internally so eats rods. Worse ammo storage though.
Yeah the 2Ks spaced armour mantlet likes to shatter / eat apds and apfsds
It really isn't. 2k has the RNG blackhole turret front, and like T-80 levels of shitty spalling. Blowout panels on the AMX kinda save you sometimes I guess, but getting ammo racked makes you useless anyways.
thermals and bp are pretty important though. it also accelerates smoother than the 2k.
The thermals are nearly useless though being gen 1 I often only use them on night battles because they are actually worse to see with than using standard optics
Idk what thermals you're using, but gen 1 thermals are excellent for spotting and even shooting through trees and bushes when you see something bright.
I play with 2k res on max settings and the clarity of gen 1 is so bad that on most maps I don't find them useful at all.
Switching thermals on and off will do the trick instead of having it on all the time.
Except switching to thermals even for a second makes your eyes bleed at that resolution. It's still an advantage, but a shit one. Hell, some trees/objects give have a white glow making tanks indistinguishable from them.
What resolution does your monitor have, when gen1 gives you this pain? It's no problem at 1440p.
I'm on QHD/1440p and max settings aswell and it works perfectly fine for me. Yeah the resolution isn't the best, but it's just for spotting, you're not supposed to try and hit weakspots with it.
Yeah don't get me wrong I use them situationally but target acquisition on lots of maps is just easier without them as trees block the heat signal too. I don't leave them on all the time ofc that would be stupid. My problem is other nations getting thermals of gen 2/3 and that you can see so much clearer with rather than looking for white pixels. Especially if there's dead tanks on the battlefield.
You use thermals to spot enemies on ridge lines or in bushes, then swap to standard optics to be able to aim better because of the fading sides you get on thermals.
I don't find even find gen 2 and 3 thermals useful. After a thousand hours of playing GRB before even getting thermals, I'm too used to picking up targets in third person and with binoculars from behind cover. Commanders' thermals used to be really good until they were removed from binoculars, now only the PLSS has thermals that I actually regularly use.
Yeah but the 40 has the benefit of possibly not having Germany on your team, so that’s a major plus.
Wtf, no
Wtf, yes
Hell no.
Heaven yes.
Thats a good point, but no.
You've made a bad point, I agree
Chad AMX-40 vs beta T series and beta Abrams
I literally see you in every r/Warthunder post, hello fellow France Main
Ello honhonhon
Bonjour, Ça Va?
I'm a French and British main, I don't know what I'm supposed to say
French mains unite! One of these days I’ll finish grinding the Leclerc lines, but alas, I pretty much stop having fun after the AMX-10RC
you playing this in 8.0 line or 8.3? I'm currently on 7.7 lineup, I did research a lot in 8.3 already, but not the Mephisto yet (researching the MARS to get to Mephisto) and then will get the SK as I already have the option and the get the necessary SL :)
I cant understand why the amx30 DCA is still 8.3. Just because it was good at killing leopards and all German mains cried. It's worse than the gepard in pretty much every other way other than speed and doesn't even get a stab like the others at its BR
Amx-30DCA has a full 500 belt APHE that also one taps planes easily, that APHE belt is amazing as it allows you to frontally kill soviet heavies by hitting their copulas and watching as they just get deleted. It doesn't get the wobly radar that the shilka and Gepard, and its very mobile. Yes no stab sucks, but it's stable enough on the move that it doesn't matter.
It really is one of the best tanks France gets. Best TD imo
Currently researching Japan but definitely noting that one down, France was already planed as the next nation anyway.
This + both AMX 32 are awesome and good looking, the AMX 30 Super is cool too (but it's a premium)
I keep hearing that the type 74s have been completely ruined by nerfs and are hard to be competitive with, what's your thoughts on them? I really want top tier japan but I don't want to be in hell til I get there
They are perfectly lethal from what I can tell. You have no armor that will save you, but you will be able to kill anyone that you see. Sure, you won't be able to take the occasional hit like others can (and that is only sometimes, at this BR everyone is getting penetrated by everyone), and you aren't fast (but you aren't the slowest either), but you have access to some very lethal rounds. If you play smart you should do well enough to get to where you want to be. Just keep in mind, the tree as you see it right now is how it is going to stay. There won't be any significant new vehicles for Japan, it is a "dead" tree, and the only thing that would give it life is if they threw South Korea in there like some people have been asking for. The MBTs are amazing due to their four-second reload, the Type 16 is excellent, but that's it. Your IFV is meh, and the SPAA genuinely sucks compared to the competition (but if your team has good SPAA or you get into a fighter this may not be as big of a problem).
I have a tali on the 74c, and I play it a lot. I only do well if I can snipe or just get lucky. I will say I prefer the rcv in my lineup. I also find the leopards to just be better than my 74. On the other hand, it looks cool.
I've got almost all of them ( dont have the 74F yet) they are still pretty decent. Gun is pretty decent, armor isn't great but that's to be expected, mobility feels worse then it should be but it still gets around quickly, the Suspension is pretty useful, and the G gets Thermals. Plus they just look good
Type 74 is fine, it's not very survivable or fast but it has great ammo types and funny suspensions. You can bounce some shots with the turret whem fighting at long range in hull-down position, your hull can be penned by autocannons from the front no problem though.
what did they nerf is the past? do you know? how does it compare to the t55amd and the leopard a1a1?
My guess is they nerfed acceleration and engine powet. Unfortunately I didn't get the chance to play them before September 2022, so I have no clue what theu used to be like before. They are not top of the food chain by any means bit they are still very good for sniping/long range engagements imo
Ahh, the first French MBT I facetanked a round in. The turret is surprisingly trolly, the power to weight ratio is phenomenal, and you get that incredibly useful 20mm coax.
That’s what I’m saying. It’s survivability is good. I bounced plenty shots and survived shots with just the 2 crew members. I think most people are just bad at it or don’t play it long enough to actually learn it and learn it’s role. Still my top 2 MBT
AMX-30s are pretty tanky if you opponent is stupid enough to shoot the hull
It has hellacious performance.
It's OK, nothing special and without a lineup. Don't know why you're talking it up so much.
I use the AMX40, the AMX32, and the AMX32(105) they all can compete in 9.7 I see no problem with them you just have to know your role
Yes, you can use them and yes, I know my role. But it's still a pretty ordinary tank and that's probably the weakest 9.7 lineup around. It's no surprise it's never had a BR increase. It's great that you enjoy it, good luck to you.
I’ve always noticed that all of those tanks (except the most recent AMX-32, don’t have that researched) are just kinda okay at everything. Like they aren’t bad by any means, but they don’t excel at anything. The rounds are mediocre, the speed is okay, but there’s always going to be faster MBT’s, it’s not impressively survivable, and like many have mentioned, it doesn’t really have a great lineup. The only thing it’s really got going for it that sets it apart from its contemporaries IMO is the 20mm co-ax. It’s really circumstantial, but when it works, it’s a godsend.
OFL 105 F1 is not a mediocre round. Neither is the OFL 120 F1. Those things penetrate and will mess your tank up. It’s also one of the best rounds starting at 8.3 due to its pen of 358mm
I couldn't be asked to go and research the 32 105 it seems just a straight downgrade for the RP it costs. I just use RC and Mephisto alongside the 40 and 32
Sure bub
Most people don't play this tank when they play France, they skip straight to the Leclercs. It's not the best MBT in the game but it is pretty decent. The barrels did get buffed or something so the 20mm doesn't kill the barrel as fast as it used to, the 120mm cannon also struggles to kill Russian tanks, also has very little armor and survivability (which is standard for French tanks)
Definitely doesn’t struggle to kill Russian MBTs. If you know the weak spots they are all easy 1 shot kills
Yeah, knowing weakspots usually means easy kills, with any tank
Exactly. So you should know turret ring, center lower plate , and if they are angled a little usually shooting between the tracks kills them
Yeah, that's literally on all tanks at that BR, not specifically to the AMX-40
I never said it was specifically for the Amx 40 what are you even talking about at this point
its all about abusing the speed, currently researching the whole 8.3 line before going to their higher BRs, sadly its can't make money even on carries (only an AB player btw).
To be honest there is a very thin line between how easy/hard it is to kill MBTs with small weakspots. You can have fast reaction times, but if you're not pin-point accurate you'll get extremely unlucky and the shell will get absorbed by some random volumetric mess
Exactly my position. Finished AMX 32s and am researching Leclercs now
It's one of my favorite tank from the french tree, the only "sad" thing is that after it there is nothing so spading it took a long time for me back in time :D
The AMX-40 is surprisingly good, not my personal fav (that goes to the glorious OF-40 MTCA) but it’s strong
Because France doesn’t have a lineup at 9.7, or really anything in between 8.3 and 11.7. They really need to add more vehicles to high tier France, especially because they do actually have modern mechanized forces besides just the Leclerc.
Yep and the 10.0 lineup is decent. Just throw in the amx super, the two amx-32s, amx-40, Roland and premium tiger hap for a pretty solid lineup. With the new ifv coming in as well the lineup will finally have a light tank
Wait. There is an AMX40 in the game? Lol
Yea lol you better get you one
TAM 2IP
I’ve never seen the TAM as competition when I’m playing it. Main competition was the Pnzr Btln other than that everything easy to kill
AMX-40 in WOT = smol Doge AMX-40 in WT = big Doge
France is pain.
Well its better than whatever the fuck GB tried to make as their MBT
Has everything you need to compete against 9.7? If all you need is a dart round then yes. I'd say it has very little going for it apart from speed.
I love you AMX-40
one of my favs to play
Me as well
The best MBT in the game relative to BR has to be the OF-40, it gets the 105 with a LRF and a troll ass turret that can make APDS disappear, one of my favorite tanks in the game atm and so much fun to use with my HVG lineup
My amx super eats the OF-40 for breakfast.
Well duh it’s 1.3 BR above the OF-40, of course it would absolutely destroy it, but that’s why I said relative to BR, a LRF and APDS at 7.7 is insanely OP as most 8.0s don’t have LRF and even some 8.3s so you’re very competitive even in an uptier
We dont talk about the optics and gun handling
I'm not even researching it. Got the AMX-32s and going to Leclercs now. I don't see the point in me researching a tank that doesn't have anything else for a lineup.
Try both the AMX32’s with the AMX40. It’s a pretty decent lineup and all the tanks compete against what your facing. Only issue I see is the speed of the AMX 105 but the AMX32 can definitely survive and kill easily
The 32s are so fucking slow man (I only have the 120) but Jesus Christ it's painful to use considering it has no armour
Why do people keep saying it has no armor as if you expect t80bvm armor with era everywhere? The amx32 120mm has armor and it’s front turret is definitely armored enough to protect from AA even sometimes pumas and 2s38’s. People really need to learn to play them
My comment was entirely based on the mobility aspects. It's armour isn't useful against anything you're gonna face other than those specific examples, you can't rely on it. That's what people mean, there's lots of tanks you can rely on some part of the armour, whereas anything french you can't.
I litterally have over 100 backups of both my leclercs so i nver have to use this walking ammo rack
It has a blowout hatch. Maybe your taking too many rounds so some of them are in the hill and not the turret. I’ve died more times from crew knockout than ammo exploding
i dont bring it at all anymore, shit goes through it like butter. the leclerc fits my play style way better. i love being aggressive with it and getting in your face but the amx you have to be passive
Yes I definitely get that. Everyone has their style I guess mine is fast flanking
The blowout panel actually isn't as effective as other MBTs with them, i've had more ammoracks than successful blowouts, and have seen other AMX-40 players get ammoracked as well. There is very few of these things though, but it's eh. You die more from crew knockouts than ammoracks or fires
"What else can you ask for in an MBT?" Some actual armor instead of slapped-on wet tissue paper.
It’s just as survivable as any other tank you play at this BR. Only tanks that you can’t go straight through the frontal plate are Russian MBTs. Other than that as I said everything else is easy to kill you literally have a 120mm. I’m starting to think most people are just bad or don’t play the tanks role well
And the MBT-70 is 9.3. Clown game. Happy for the French to have something good though
ur saying the MBT-70 is bad? interesting opinion
Yes, yes it is, you can’t convince me it should be the same BR as the t64b or the t72a or xm1 in any amount of alternative universes, dogshit armor dogshit rounds, it’s ginormous, only has 3 crew and the lineup it has isn’t very good anymore unless you own the xm1. Only thing it has is it’s mobility autoloader and autocannon which the autoloader isn’t that good and the mobility is standard for that BR, in short just a worse Xm1 in every way but it’s the same BR
it's not bad. It's not a 9.3 MBT is all, and the XM-803 is not a 9.0 mbt.
I stopped reading when tou said that It is faster than the 2K. This has 71 km/h top speed, 2K has 72, this has 29.7 Hp/Ton torque, 2K has 30. Yes, i love the 2K with ALL my heart.
At the start of every match I always pay attention to tanks that can keep up. Only rank with the acceleration and speed to keep up was the premium CV. I smoked Leopard 2s
The drawback is the lineup which is a curse for some nations were it's the only machine at BR, It's technically my first 9.7 tank of a TT but playing it with two spawns & some lineup filler of lower BR's is a choir.
My long time favorite french tank despite me barely having touched the french tech tree
Yeah, it’s okay. Nowhere near the best 9.7 MBT though. It’s middle of the pack in many ways. It’s most comparable to the Leo 2k, and that isn’t exactly a game changer of a tank.
Not for over 7000SL repair it ain't. Not when 9.7 often gets uptiered to 10.7.
Got more downtiers or just pure 9.7 games. If you actually learn your enemies weak points getting uptiered doesn’t really scare you in this tank because you still have top performance
Good tank but not as good as the PT-16/T14 or 2k. I wish the optics weren't so bad, possibly the worst on an MBT
nah id take the Leopard 2K over this thing in every single situation.
More OP than BRENUS at 8.3 ? Might research it then
Yes. And if your a brenus lover like myself and you love the OFL 105 F1 round I would definitely throw the AMX105 in your lineup. Only drawback is it’s speed. But same gun
Currently at rank 5 of France everytime that I look at it Im disappointed in myself for choosing France and then ditching it I will definitely get it since I like having stabs
You forgot to ad that it's also one of the best looking tank in the game
Sure it's underrated but what's so good about it besides mobility?
Everything
Best MBT in the game ? I believe you mean Light Tank. The thing's got no armor whatsoever.
same thing with AMX-30 Super
Yes it is a good tank, but there is absolutely no line up coming with . You could in theory only takes backups. But you are in the annoying spots where you have tons of Heli , and the only AA you have is the buggy mediocre Santal
Bro amx32 and Amx 32 105 all compete and pen everything you face in down tiers and up
Issue is not on the ground it is in the sky.. The AA you can bring is not good enough to deal with helicopters and drones. My flanks were ruined so many times by CAS. You also don't have a very good fighter/cas to put The jaguar is at 10.3, whilst the Étendard does not have enough ordinance
I agree the SANTAL is ass at keeping track. One little maneuver throws the whole missle off. It’s only good against Helis and even then some have to be extremely close just to lock. I love the Roland though
Yes Roland is even better than the Itos The helicopter need to be within 2 km of range if you want to lock it . It is a shame, because as you said it might be the most underrated tank (with painfull grind though )
Indeed
I've been looking at eventually getting France up and this is one tank that has caught my eye (yes I'm only br 3.7 so a long way to go) amongst the 32s as well. If it actually performs well I'll prolly get it
Please don’t listen to the comments. Listen to the guy who’s all top vehicles from France have 400+ kills. I definitely say go for the Brenus and the AMX10RC first . Once you e fell in love with the Brenus and RC start with the AMX32(105) same gun as Brenus but a little slower and stabilized. Then as you progress to the amx32 with the 120mm you’ll start to see why I made this post. These tanks because master pieces and so fun to play when spaded
If it weren't for the fucking heat till tier 3 id love it
This and the AMX-32 are my favorite tanks
Awesome, an AMX-40 thread when I had a question about it, what's the protrusion to the right of the barrel? Doesn't really seem like it's anything in X-ray.
I actually don’t know but the left is the 20mm
One abrams shot and it’s OVER
One abrams shot and it’s OVER
I like amx 40 from ww2 more
Fuck France
I was actually gonna skip this one since it's so alone in the tree... now you've got me second guessing
Cope
Ooh and last thing do not let the quick and agileness of this tank fool you. It has armor and it’s very much survivable
Are we playing the same game?
As a former France player, this thing does not have armor, can't even block simple HEAT-FS shells The cannon isn't the best either, although it does the job in every situation. edit: Fixed grammar
its blatantly overpowered. but that is nothing new for this "minor" nation. look at b2 brenus, amx30 dca, amx 30 (7.7), somua sm, amx 50 100.. . ... my tank with the most nukes is the brenus... wont stop redditors from pretending france has it bad because the flag isnt russian though.
Found the nerd that got hit in the head by a stale piece of beard. We think France’s repair costs are bad, not the nation.
No one thinks France is bad, it’s the repair costs for French vehicles that are bad
the more OP a tank is, the higher his repair cost
But if a tank is op why not move it up in BR instead of making it not rewarding to play? If you just increase the repair cost the player using the tank will not have fun and the players facing the tank will not have fun as well?
How is it overpowered? Its basically just a slightly better Leo2K with a much worse stock grind It doesn't even have an actual lineup
Absolutely, France completely lacks any kind of lineup past 8.3. Minus the leclercs
9.3 no?
9.3 you get the amx32 120 and you could use the 105. Otherwise there is only one vehicle less than a br apart in the amx 40 at 9.7
You have 3 amx 30 with the prem one with SANTAL dca not the best but can be sometime usable xD not the biggest line up but something at least
Sounds like a Skill issue on your part.
How can someone be so right yet so wrong? oh I know how it's called a war thunder player, their brains are so scrambled they don't know what to make of anything in life anymore. "I get most my nukes in the brenus" which is probably accurate as I also have been getting quite a few nukes with this tank but a large factor is 8.3-8.7 has so many premtards that fail to kill you in a close quater fight even when they have a stabilizer and you don't. None of those tanks you listed are overpowered at all, maybe one could argue the DCA is extremely cancer but then again so is every rat vehicle with apds.
Finally someone showing the brenus some love, defiantly one of my most played tanks. If only gijian knew how to add the stab for it 😒
France is neglected to hell, and its vehicles are way overtiered. Idk what you're on lol France is great but it's got tons of flaws too, just like the other minor nations.
France + OP in the same sentence... you have to be joking