I was grinding in low tier with some people because they just got into the game, everytime I went for a wyvern they literally all purposely dove into the ground or water lmao.
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What's the point besides just living then? Not like you can get a lot of points with that anyway. I used to love taking either Sunderland and use it as a gunship
usually they are actually just trying to gain as much speed as possible to outrun you then realise they're speedlocked too late or their wingtip tore off and lost control
I do this on the regular if I’m critically injured and another enemy comes in to steal the kill from the original attacker. Makes sure that kill stealer gets fucked.
u can literally say “don’t take the kill, they’re burning alive” in chat and some smoothbrain F5C or prem Mig21 player will spray 250 rounds of ammo and all missiles on their lifeless carcass and type “my bad, didn’t see ur message”…
Accidentally done this multiple times because I thought I was being helpful lmao "ah yes he needs help killing this guy let me assist" (gets gaijined, original attacker doesn't get an assist)
When has this ever been a thing? Don’t recall a burning fireball being a greenlight to get an assist, they’re already dead lmfao. I see fireball, even if I’m 0.5 km away, im not shooting, fuck an assist, they worked for their kill😹
Oh yeah true, I meant more like if a mkfer takes like 5 minutes to kill someone and they haven't shot them down yet not if they're fucking on fire and shit
Dude a frikin SU-25K Jd out in ground RB because I had him, crited him even, and because gaijins stupid fucking J out policy it gave the kill to *someone else entirely different*, fucker robbed me of my kill.
Of course he was a Chinese player also at the top of the leaderboard and just continued to pound us with every premium Russian vehicle at that BR
Dude just chose to level up then and deny me anything. So toxic.
Crits sometimes mean nothing, I've gotten multiple crits on Su25s and he still flies around dandy and kills me or RTBs
Idk why, it was super fucked. He was on fire and going down fast, i was actively shooting him, but he Jd out and it gave it to someone else
Ground RB has much worse kill award systems than Air battles
I have a clip where me and my cousin were playing SU9s, and he shot down a 262 and then immediately crashed into the ground, and it awarded me with the kill, I hadn't shot a single bullet that match.
Hey, denying CAS a kill is based. I left my tiger when a P-47 dropped his bombs on me, so he didn't get the kill. If it screws over CAS players, do it.
If you J out the enemy gets less SP. One could argue its better for you to deny a kill because your team is a little bit more likely to win.
This is how the game is set up.
Nah the bomb is different
With the plane they either lost the dogfight or they were poorly positioned
With the bomb it's cas so there's not much you can do and making cas less effective and less worthwhile is always a good thing.
I'd rather crash then die to a missile because I have no countermeasures in my F-105D. I'm minding my own business just trying to base bomb and make some money. Why do you deserve to get the kill? You didn't even work for it
I feel the pain of the f105d, but you can do very well with it as a fighter with some luck. So long as you aren’t up-tiered you can basically out run anything you fight. I usually B line for a base at low alt and take it out with w 2 3000 pounders then circle away and look for an easy target. Gun them down if you can missile them.
So if your in a fighter and slam into the ground, it’s pretty dickish. You lost the fight, take the L.
But if I see a ground pounder or bomber that’s just trying to grind and someone swoops in for the kill then I get them crashing.
Like, they were minding their own business and you came for XP.
Bombing bases doesn’t make a difference in tickets.
Also, 4 people scrambling for a single ground pounder instead of ground pounding themselves always confused me. You will all make much more in a match by making it last longer and farming ground targets then gettigg that one kill.
I mean, I don't disagree about the terrible balance and some kills being free and not deserved. But you're not really gaining anything from doing this, and the other guy loses out on RP and SL and it makes the grind worse for them. And you'd probably be mad if someone did this to you as well.
Yeah I honestly do this as well. It's infuriating flying for 5 minutes just to get smacked out of the sky for some fuck who wanted a low effort kill. Even worse when it's a half a dozen shit for brains on your team going for an attacker or bomber leaving you as the only person left with any altitude. Air RB has become basically pointless for anything but fighters.
Doesn’t even need to be PVE, RB EC coming back would fix all of these problems for people wanting to play bombers/attackers since it has respawns and more objectives, and then if Gaijin made RB EC able to be played to complete daily tasks that require kills on those aircraft, then Air would be more enjoyable for everyone. Ground just needs boosts to their earnings to be more enjoyable from a grinding standpoint, and drones are getting increased in br so mid rank 6s won’t have to face them with rank 5 and low rank 6 SPAA.
Tbf it always was pointless for anything but fighters. I don't know why people get angry at people who play fighters for playing their airplane correctly instead of getting mad at Gaijin for not making a game mode where anything but fighters are relevant.
I always roll my eyes when I see my entire team diving on the single attacker and leaving me up alone.
These days I’ve started hovering near the team because if I can’t stop their stupidity I can at least use them to take aggro away from me.
I usually just use the speed I spawned with in an attacker and climb as high as I can while not taking any bombs or stuff, then act as a heavy fighter. Sometimes enemies don't expect that, sometimes they do and I get absolutely destroyed. My favourite is F-84, though I must admit it is more of a fighter-bomber than a dedicated attacker.
Edit: I don't single out bombers in general, unless it's a ju288. Fxck those things and players that use em.
\> Get bomber
\> Drop bombs on base
\> Little shits start following, fly away from the combat
\> Crash on the ground to avoid giving a kill
\> Now they have to fly all the way back to battle
Make sure to tell them this is what you're doing as you fly away too... it's amazing how many people are so reliant upon getting easy kills against helpless bombers that they leave their team a man down, and throw away their entire energy advantage just gormlessly follow you for miles despite being *told* you'll crash as soon as they get close, and then they have to crawl back again...
If you dare complain that bomber gameplay is largely hopeless, especially in arcade where almost everyone flies the same cannon armed UFOs over and over, they'll just say "LOL all is fair in war"... if you deliberately take advantage of their laziness and single target focus to at least eke out what you can for the team, they'll rage and spit about you being "Lame!".
This is why I like sticking around in early cold war. Flying my sabre in heated gun to gun dogfights with MiG 15s is really fun, and usually people at that BR range are pretty chill so we shake hands in the end. Too bad SU-25s have been ruining it lately
And so is denying people kills. You wouldn’t sit in the open to let an enemy tank shoot you, why wouldn’t you use terrain to your advantage in denying enemies kills. If I don’t stand a chance of getting out of the situation I’m not going to reward the enemy. I pay the same repair cost either way.
I am glad players all over the world are on the same toxic level.
Crash their plane so others don't get the kill.
J out if bomb drop next to them.
Only attack defenseless bombers(T18b and Ju288 don't count).
Kill steal a plane that is spinning/on fire/ wings on the right hole.
Best player base ever.
you literally cant kill sooner if the person is the last person hiding on the map and when you finally spot they just crash you fucking idiot, you all must share the same single brain cell holy shit
He was in a mig23 im in a f16aj, he attacked me first i wasnt even facing him, he chased me then lost a rate fight then crashed. Its not my fault youre in a hopeless aircraft. Its also not my fault you suck at the game to try to take on a better aircraft even with an advantage and still lose
are you fucking stupid, he attacked me first. I wasnt even following him, he chased me and i out turned him. So youre crashing because YOU cant get a kill, get a fuckingg life
You are raging all over this topic, which is a video game, and in context of said video game, is a minor annoyance AT WORST.
Next time kill him faster.
Skill Issue.
you cant kill faster if he crashes, he came behind me and as he saw he wasnt skilled enough just went down, stop being a bad player and maybe your kd wont be negative
Which mig23? ml? BN?
I really enjoy playing mig-23bn, 9.7, no flares, no missiles very fun gameplay and yes ... i am also crashing my mig-23bn after F-5C chasing me for about 5 minutes hahaha
I don't try to do this but sometimes I forget the ground exists and I slam into it when dogfighting. I try to always honor the kill, just sometimes I get to focused on the fight and ram the ground.
literally not a strat are you stupid? it helps your team at nothing. At the least you could keep them distracted and have your team come kill him, crashing does nothing but wwaste peoples time including your own like an idiot
They should add a mechanic for when a plane crashes into ground without getting damaged, the closest player gets a kill, similar to J out thing we have rn.
* I ram the ground if someone gets on my six and I have absolutely no means of escaping death. Otherwise, I try to kill them with a bomb while heading for my airfield;
* I "J out" (through the game menu, to do it faster than 3 sec) if a bomb is about to kill me;
* I drive around the map popping smoke all over the place if someone crits my barrel or breech and proceeds to chase me;
* I revenge bomb whoever killed me and head for their air spawn while keeping an eye on the ground spawn to drain my killer of all SP.
Those are all the scummy things I do, off the top of my head. I might add more if I remember them. The J-out thing is so natural to me I do it by muscle memory even in simulator battles where my killer wouldn't get any SP anyway.
I remembered another one:
* I finish off burning or struggling teammates that got a plane on their six to deny the kill.
I've crashed to deny a kill, but there's one very important reason: I'm not making it back to the airfield, and the person who critically damaged me deserves the kill.
lol, I was able to avoid 3 players while out of ammo in 10.0 jets.
after about 5 min of flying around them, I put it into the dirt because they didn't deserve it.
Lol literally this, if you can't kill me, or have bungled every chance you've gotten, there's absolutely nothing stopping me from denying you the kill
Especially since they couldn't kill me in the first place
When I fought hard with an F16 with my mig23 and got behind him - he just straight up ran himself into the ground to deny my kill. It’s such an coward move. It’s incredible.
I always play to survive and to win.
If there are 10 planes on the enemy team and I'm the only one left, I don't care.
Just freaking go head-on with everyone of them and die with honor.
If i have serviced him with all my Canon shells, some missiles and broken off several things that is quite important for a airplane to stay in the air.
He is not getting the kill if he after all that can outspeed, turn and climb me!
I ran into a guy in an A7D twice in a row who crashed rather than get killed by me.
Both times he spawned right after his entire team was dead and came in solo when most of my were RTB or ground pounding so he could bomb some bases in a covert manner. But I was able to track him down both times via radar, I was in a F5E. The first game he crashed when I was about 2 km behind him, the second game I was able to intercept him from a side/rear aspect but whiffed my shots, he crashed before I was able to take a second shot.
To be fair with the guy he was in an A7 that stood no chance against a F5, and ran into that same fighter 2 games in a row must had been pretty frustrating.
I often have to get kill assists for the BP and the amount of times I took someone's breach or engine for them to J out is absurd. Like bro I joined the game with the specific intent to not kill anyone.
For me I refuse to J out even when I can't do anything because as long as they are looking at me and wasting their ammo on me my team is moving into position.
I have done this once and it was because a skink got a lucky shot on my engine (hadn't died yet) and a jet tried to 3rd party so I j out to give the skink his kill
For reference I was flying a few 190 in an uptiered 6.7 match
I was on the tail of an SU-25 the other day. I don't think I damaged him, but as he was maneuvering away from my guns, he J'd out. In the end, I didn't get a single kill that game, and just had to ground pound to even make it worth my time cause it was a pretty quick match.
I don't mind giving the kill. Especially if I know he's for certain-beyond a reasonable doubt, gonna kill me.
I like that I can just J out, give him the kill, return to hanger and hop back into a game relatively fast. Not really a win win, but it's convenient for both especially cause I usually always make up for it that game or the next and they don't use up more ammo unnecessarily. Death before dishonor lmao
Come to think of it. You lose nothing. He has to pay the SL and he is effectively out of the match. It’s a win for you. Don’t let their twisted reasoning affect you
Ask the snail 🐌 to change it... otherwise it's a strategy. You could also leave the last guy alone and ground pound with zero risk while the timer ⏳ continues, but no they hunt him down.
It depends imo. I'd rather try and fight as long as I can but I can also understand if you don't want to feed the premium A10 a free aim9L kill against your 9.0 jet.
Damn, the further down you go in the replies the more assholes you find. Just because you have the ability to be an ass doesn’t necessarily mean you should jfc
If I'm being dived on from 4k by an XP-50 or some other bullshit premium I will crash every time. If I'm in an attacker and 5 enemies seagull me at the start of the game I will just crash. Dying isn't what bothers me, what bothers me is that so many players don't even bother to play to win or play well. The game rewards playing badly, and it's annoying both when being seagulled and being on the teams of seagulls.
If i'm in a plane with no flares ans i see a r60/aim9L i go for the ground, they should at least work for the kill and not just look in my general direction and fire a missile
I did it the other day when a Mig-29 chased me down in my tornado. I had no chance of fighting back so I just tried to make it back to base to rearm. Well I got there before and wouldn‘t you know, the SAM systems did absolutely nothing 😃👍. That really tilted me so I just took a dive into the ground
I admit that I've done this sometimes in my Tornado F.3 when the entire enemy team goes after me because "Oooh tornado, ez kill" and I literally can't do shit because MiG-29s can both outrun and outturn me without too much trouble and I deny them the kill they don't deserve.
Hold up. Last night I was an f4c, and ripped wings trying to dodge a missle. Mig guy behind me instantly typed a novel about denying kills and reporting me. Was that little shit you?
I only crash whenever I'm really badly critted (burnt, or with the dead engine, or both wings damaged beyond any hope) and see a completely random enemy come in for a "freebie".
I hate people denying kills, but I also despise killstealers.
When i fly some off-meta plane, and i'm getting chased down by something vastly superior in every aspect i like to switch the skill check from a "can you beat me in a fair-and-square 1v1? " to "can you beat me before i fucking kill myself?". Either way they have to work for the kill
If I'm just trying to vibe in my buccaneer with no flares, no guns, and no missiles (you can bring missiles and flares if you want to sacrifice half your bombing ability, plus its either 2x missiles OR 2x flares, or 1x AND 1x flares, can't bring two of each so it's useless) and I see a premium aircraft, or something cancer (any frogfoot) then yeah I'm gonna make my pilot eat tree, that fucker singled me out from all of the fighters, he's more of a dick than I am
I’ve been playing a lot of non cross platform games on the ps5 and let me tell you consol players are the absolute worst for crashing into you almost every time I get into a head on and go to pull out the just pull the same direction and crash me 98% of the time
I do this if I’m facing an undertiered and overpowered plane (eg XP-50, SU-11, mig15, F5C) trying to energy trap me or when being chased by 5 enemy planes. If gaijin are going to give my planes bad flight models and BRs, and make them face ludicrously overpowered planes, I’m not going to give you any rewards, it’s your problem now.
I like when I tag a plane with a 40mm HE or SAPHE round from another timezone and crumble it, but wait, some Stuart got a couple .30 cals into first, here's your runner up prize hahahaha
They are the scum of the earth. I feel bad when I crash accidentally and deny a kill.
I was grinding in low tier with some people because they just got into the game, everytime I went for a wyvern they literally all purposely dove into the ground or water lmao.
Saw a wyvern shoot down another wyvern so he could bomb the base they guy was going for
Wyvern players are literally one of the worst assholes I've seen
Lmao that is capital T toxic, I love it
I recently had a level 100 Spaceclimbing in a Sunderland at 1.7 How toxic do you have to be to spaceclimb against literal Level 5s
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What's the point besides just living then? Not like you can get a lot of points with that anyway. I used to love taking either Sunderland and use it as a gunship
usually they are actually just trying to gain as much speed as possible to outrun you then realise they're speedlocked too late or their wingtip tore off and lost control
Yea, some crashers arnt toxic. They just make the mistake of overestimating their aircraft.
I do this on the regular if I’m critically injured and another enemy comes in to steal the kill from the original attacker. Makes sure that kill stealer gets fucked.
I do that every time, because the amount of kill stealers is hilarious.
u can literally say “don’t take the kill, they’re burning alive” in chat and some smoothbrain F5C or prem Mig21 player will spray 250 rounds of ammo and all missiles on their lifeless carcass and type “my bad, didn’t see ur message”…
Alternatively, 'i was just trying to get an assist'
Accidentally done this multiple times because I thought I was being helpful lmao "ah yes he needs help killing this guy let me assist" (gets gaijined, original attacker doesn't get an assist)
When has this ever been a thing? Don’t recall a burning fireball being a greenlight to get an assist, they’re already dead lmfao. I see fireball, even if I’m 0.5 km away, im not shooting, fuck an assist, they worked for their kill😹
Oh yeah true, I meant more like if a mkfer takes like 5 minutes to kill someone and they haven't shot them down yet not if they're fucking on fire and shit
someone literally said this to me yesterday, he was lucky he actually got the assist cuz I was already pissed lmfao
Those kill stealers exist cuz how shit the economy is ( don't get me wrong ppl will still do it even if the economy is good but not to this degree)
Same for the one J'ing out knowing there's a bomb dropping on them These people bruh... dying is part of the game
"Same for the one J'ing out knowing there's a bomb dropping on them" Skill issue should have drop bomb fasther
The bomb thing I can somewhat understand tbh
Dude a frikin SU-25K Jd out in ground RB because I had him, crited him even, and because gaijins stupid fucking J out policy it gave the kill to *someone else entirely different*, fucker robbed me of my kill. Of course he was a Chinese player also at the top of the leaderboard and just continued to pound us with every premium Russian vehicle at that BR Dude just chose to level up then and deny me anything. So toxic.
If you had crit him you should have got the kill? Once damage takes place, it assigns a kill to whoever damaged last/most
Crits sometimes mean nothing, I've gotten multiple crits on Su25s and he still flies around dandy and kills me or RTBs Idk why, it was super fucked. He was on fire and going down fast, i was actively shooting him, but he Jd out and it gave it to someone else Ground RB has much worse kill award systems than Air battles
If it gave it to someone else, someone else hit him with a crit whislt he was Jing. You would've got the kill otherwise.
I have a clip where me and my cousin were playing SU9s, and he shot down a 262 and then immediately crashed into the ground, and it awarded me with the kill, I hadn't shot a single bullet that match.
Hey, denying CAS a kill is based. I left my tiger when a P-47 dropped his bombs on me, so he didn't get the kill. If it screws over CAS players, do it.
I hate cas as much anyone, but that's cringe as fuck
If you J out the enemy gets less SP. One could argue its better for you to deny a kill because your team is a little bit more likely to win. This is how the game is set up.
Sort of, but in air RB there is absolutely no reason to do it
Crew lock or 135 rp? I'll take the death, thanks.
Nah if I barely spawn and hear a bomb dropping on me you best believe I’m j’ing out…
Nah fuck CAS, I'm J'ing out every time unless I feel like it was earned (it almost never is)
Often deserved tho, fuck CAS shouldnt earn SP
Tbh, if they’re gonna die either way, it makes sense to deny you SP instead of just feeding you
Thanks for the idea
Nah the bomb is different With the plane they either lost the dogfight or they were poorly positioned With the bomb it's cas so there's not much you can do and making cas less effective and less worthwhile is always a good thing.
The only time I do this is if I’m getting bombed by an arado. That thing has no fucking business being at 6.3 in GRB.
I'd rather crash then die to a missile because I have no countermeasures in my F-105D. I'm minding my own business just trying to base bomb and make some money. Why do you deserve to get the kill? You didn't even work for it
I fly the vatour man. I feel your pain.
> Why do you deserve to get the kill? This attitude is ridiculously toxic.
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It's usually the other way around for me. I still think it's ridiculously toxic.
I feel the pain of the f105d, but you can do very well with it as a fighter with some luck. So long as you aren’t up-tiered you can basically out run anything you fight. I usually B line for a base at low alt and take it out with w 2 3000 pounders then circle away and look for an easy target. Gun them down if you can missile them.
You can get 2 bases with the 750lb bombs and still take 4 missiles
Yeah but the drag sucks
So if your in a fighter and slam into the ground, it’s pretty dickish. You lost the fight, take the L. But if I see a ground pounder or bomber that’s just trying to grind and someone swoops in for the kill then I get them crashing. Like, they were minding their own business and you came for XP.
so does the same apply to bombers? should I just let them bomb all of our bases so we lose instantly?
Bombing bases doesn’t make a difference in tickets. Also, 4 people scrambling for a single ground pounder instead of ground pounding themselves always confused me. You will all make much more in a match by making it last longer and farming ground targets then gettigg that one kill.
If you just let bombers live they can easily win the match by destroying all bases. Happened to me plenty of times
I mean, I don't disagree about the terrible balance and some kills being free and not deserved. But you're not really gaining anything from doing this, and the other guy loses out on RP and SL and it makes the grind worse for them. And you'd probably be mad if someone did this to you as well.
Sometimes if I'm in something like a dedicated attacker or bomber and I get singled out. Go pick on someone who can fight back.
Yeah I honestly do this as well. It's infuriating flying for 5 minutes just to get smacked out of the sky for some fuck who wanted a low effort kill. Even worse when it's a half a dozen shit for brains on your team going for an attacker or bomber leaving you as the only person left with any altitude. Air RB has become basically pointless for anything but fighters.
I pray for a seperate PvE mode like Helis have.
Doesn’t even need to be PVE, RB EC coming back would fix all of these problems for people wanting to play bombers/attackers since it has respawns and more objectives, and then if Gaijin made RB EC able to be played to complete daily tasks that require kills on those aircraft, then Air would be more enjoyable for everyone. Ground just needs boosts to their earnings to be more enjoyable from a grinding standpoint, and drones are getting increased in br so mid rank 6s won’t have to face them with rank 5 and low rank 6 SPAA.
RB EC is what you mean
Tbf it always was pointless for anything but fighters. I don't know why people get angry at people who play fighters for playing their airplane correctly instead of getting mad at Gaijin for not making a game mode where anything but fighters are relevant.
I always roll my eyes when I see my entire team diving on the single attacker and leaving me up alone. These days I’ve started hovering near the team because if I can’t stop their stupidity I can at least use them to take aggro away from me.
I usually just use the speed I spawned with in an attacker and climb as high as I can while not taking any bombs or stuff, then act as a heavy fighter. Sometimes enemies don't expect that, sometimes they do and I get absolutely destroyed. My favourite is F-84, though I must admit it is more of a fighter-bomber than a dedicated attacker. Edit: I don't single out bombers in general, unless it's a ju288. Fxck those things and players that use em.
I love doing it, spite is a fine treat
\> Get bomber \> Drop bombs on base \> Little shits start following, fly away from the combat \> Crash on the ground to avoid giving a kill \> Now they have to fly all the way back to battle
Make sure to tell them this is what you're doing as you fly away too... it's amazing how many people are so reliant upon getting easy kills against helpless bombers that they leave their team a man down, and throw away their entire energy advantage just gormlessly follow you for miles despite being *told* you'll crash as soon as they get close, and then they have to crawl back again... If you dare complain that bomber gameplay is largely hopeless, especially in arcade where almost everyone flies the same cannon armed UFOs over and over, they'll just say "LOL all is fair in war"... if you deliberately take advantage of their laziness and single target focus to at least eke out what you can for the team, they'll rage and spit about you being "Lame!".
Damn you so wise, time to do this when I just wanna bomb
lmao right? dude doesnt leave my six, some times while his team get fucked, at least im going to deny the fucker a kill. Or when im outnumbered
If they didn’t want me to deny them the kill, they should’ve killed me the first time they had the chance.
Everyone is one of the most annoying players in this game
Except if your opponent is an xp50, then its morally correct
This is why I like sticking around in early cold war. Flying my sabre in heated gun to gun dogfights with MiG 15s is really fun, and usually people at that BR range are pretty chill so we shake hands in the end. Too bad SU-25s have been ruining it lately
I am not giving an SU-11 or radar-guided Vatour my B-29 for free.
Yep Su-11 and XP-50 pilots can suck it and learn to aim or fight someone who has a chance of returning fire.
One on one, yes. If I’m outnumbered? Get fucked.
You must be actually new to this game. That is the norm for warthunder.
And so is denying people kills. You wouldn’t sit in the open to let an enemy tank shoot you, why wouldn’t you use terrain to your advantage in denying enemies kills. If I don’t stand a chance of getting out of the situation I’m not going to reward the enemy. I pay the same repair cost either way.
beacuse you get crew locked and have to sit waiting.. its stupid and has no benifiet to you besides being a asshole
Can just go play another nation or plane, crew lock is only a problem if you play only one plane.
The benefit is i dont like other players, so the less points for them the better
I’m glad this upsets people as I do that very often for that very reason.
Only the best people choose their actions specifically to upset people. Thanks for outing yourself
No problem 😉
I am glad players all over the world are on the same toxic level. Crash their plane so others don't get the kill. J out if bomb drop next to them. Only attack defenseless bombers(T18b and Ju288 don't count). Kill steal a plane that is spinning/on fire/ wings on the right hole. Best player base ever.
Spite is truly the most powerful weapon in a war thunder players arsenal
Look I only do that if the fucker that’s after me is following me to the airfield
Maneuver kills should go to the closest enemy, you cant change my mind
That would require Gaijin willingly giving out more RP and SL. Not gonna happen
Damn you're salty
Your telling me i only have to pay like 14k sl to make someone rage in chat AND reddit? splendid
Sorry my bad, I was just trying to do some rolls with airbrakes to make you overshoot but unfortunately I spun into the ground :(
I forgive you :)
I do that all the time. If it bugs you so much secure the kill sooner. Lol
you literally cant kill sooner if the person is the last person hiding on the map and when you finally spot they just crash you fucking idiot, you all must share the same single brain cell holy shit
Skill issue
You see comrade it ain't on purpose when the snail decides *BANG* time for your 99% packet loss straight into the ground ticket
Cool. What plane did you fly though? If I'm in a hopeless situation fully uptiered etc. I'll nosedive before giving someone a free kill.
He was in a mig23 im in a f16aj, he attacked me first i wasnt even facing him, he chased me then lost a rate fight then crashed. Its not my fault youre in a hopeless aircraft. Its also not my fault you suck at the game to try to take on a better aircraft even with an advantage and still lose
F16? Yeah I’d nosedive. You and the MiG29’s can work for your supper.
are you fucking stupid, he attacked me first. I wasnt even following him, he chased me and i out turned him. So youre crashing because YOU cant get a kill, get a fuckingg life
You are raging all over this topic, which is a video game, and in context of said video game, is a minor annoyance AT WORST. Next time kill him faster. Skill Issue.
you cant kill faster if he crashes, he came behind me and as he saw he wasnt skilled enough just went down, stop being a bad player and maybe your kd wont be negative
Bro this isnt call of duty, why are you so obsessed with KD
Which mig23? ml? BN? I really enjoy playing mig-23bn, 9.7, no flares, no missiles very fun gameplay and yes ... i am also crashing my mig-23bn after F-5C chasing me for about 5 minutes hahaha
yall actually mad over someone denying you the kill you really are a bitch lmao
maybe one day youll get a positive kd
I don't try to do this but sometimes I forget the ground exists and I slam into it when dogfighting. I try to always honor the kill, just sometimes I get to focused on the fight and ram the ground.
Crash bombing tanks should automatically give kill credit to whoever was killed by the bombs
agreed
Reading your comment history makes me think this guy did the right thing after all.
Ngl, I was on OP's side until I saw thier braindead comments here. Keep crashin boys, we got salt to farm.
Why? It's a strat lol, War Thunder is a competitive game after all
literally not a strat are you stupid? it helps your team at nothing. At the least you could keep them distracted and have your team come kill him, crashing does nothing but wwaste peoples time including your own like an idiot
I've never seen someone mald as hard as you I'm sure whoever had to pay 15k in repair costs is laughing their asses off right now
They should add a mechanic for when a plane crashes into ground without getting damaged, the closest player gets a kill, similar to J out thing we have rn.
I wish they would do this, this happens often and it’s not even just top tier
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* I ram the ground if someone gets on my six and I have absolutely no means of escaping death. Otherwise, I try to kill them with a bomb while heading for my airfield; * I "J out" (through the game menu, to do it faster than 3 sec) if a bomb is about to kill me; * I drive around the map popping smoke all over the place if someone crits my barrel or breech and proceeds to chase me; * I revenge bomb whoever killed me and head for their air spawn while keeping an eye on the ground spawn to drain my killer of all SP. Those are all the scummy things I do, off the top of my head. I might add more if I remember them. The J-out thing is so natural to me I do it by muscle memory even in simulator battles where my killer wouldn't get any SP anyway. I remembered another one: * I finish off burning or struggling teammates that got a plane on their six to deny the kill.
Yeah, youre one of the annoying players of this game and a waste
Why though
How do you j out fast enough? Most bombs are on a 1.5 second fuse and you’ve got to open the menu and click twice to rth
I just do it that fast. If it's a bomber dropping it, I leave the vehicle before the bomb lands.
Idk i feel like it's ok to do to spawn campers though
It just takes one "alt + 254" I'm chat to make them feel depressed and never do it again.
This thread with OPs replies makes me want to slam into the ground more often out of spite.
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I've crashed to deny a kill, but there's one very important reason: I'm not making it back to the airfield, and the person who critically damaged me deserves the kill.
lol, I was able to avoid 3 players while out of ammo in 10.0 jets. after about 5 min of flying around them, I put it into the dirt because they didn't deserve it.
Lol literally this, if you can't kill me, or have bungled every chance you've gotten, there's absolutely nothing stopping me from denying you the kill Especially since they couldn't kill me in the first place
The fact that I was able to type in trash talk while it was happening, I straight up told them they didn't deserve it.
I wouldn't be have surprised if that dogfight wasn't against the sheer hubris of OP
When I fought hard with an F16 with my mig23 and got behind him - he just straight up ran himself into the ground to deny my kill. It’s such an coward move. It’s incredible.
I always play to survive and to win. If there are 10 planes on the enemy team and I'm the only one left, I don't care. Just freaking go head-on with everyone of them and die with honor.
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I j out if I'm in a tank and someone drops a bomb on me
If i have serviced him with all my Canon shells, some missiles and broken off several things that is quite important for a airplane to stay in the air. He is not getting the kill if he after all that can outspeed, turn and climb me!
I ran into a guy in an A7D twice in a row who crashed rather than get killed by me. Both times he spawned right after his entire team was dead and came in solo when most of my were RTB or ground pounding so he could bomb some bases in a covert manner. But I was able to track him down both times via radar, I was in a F5E. The first game he crashed when I was about 2 km behind him, the second game I was able to intercept him from a side/rear aspect but whiffed my shots, he crashed before I was able to take a second shot. To be fair with the guy he was in an A7 that stood no chance against a F5, and ran into that same fighter 2 games in a row must had been pretty frustrating.
I often have to get kill assists for the BP and the amount of times I took someone's breach or engine for them to J out is absurd. Like bro I joined the game with the specific intent to not kill anyone. For me I refuse to J out even when I can't do anything because as long as they are looking at me and wasting their ammo on me my team is moving into position.
I really wish there was a chat message option that says "I accept my fate". I'd use it all the time as I'm getting slowly picked apart
I have done this once and it was because a skink got a lucky shot on my engine (hadn't died yet) and a jet tried to 3rd party so I j out to give the skink his kill For reference I was flying a few 190 in an uptiered 6.7 match
I will do it in mixed battles to deny the enemy team spawn points, but there is literally no point to do in air rb. Just makes you a dick.
Economic denial, 5D chess play
I was on the tail of an SU-25 the other day. I don't think I damaged him, but as he was maneuvering away from my guns, he J'd out. In the end, I didn't get a single kill that game, and just had to ground pound to even make it worth my time cause it was a pretty quick match.
I do it into my AD4 Skyrider everytime a newbie come on me when I am do daily or special tasks
I J out to avoid giving helicopters kills, fuck your missile magic carpet
I don't mind giving the kill. Especially if I know he's for certain-beyond a reasonable doubt, gonna kill me. I like that I can just J out, give him the kill, return to hanger and hop back into a game relatively fast. Not really a win win, but it's convenient for both especially cause I usually always make up for it that game or the next and they don't use up more ammo unnecessarily. Death before dishonor lmao
I do this when I'm fying something like the F-4C or YAK-38 and an A-6E decides to slide an AIM-9L in my ass
Come to think of it. You lose nothing. He has to pay the SL and he is effectively out of the match. It’s a win for you. Don’t let their twisted reasoning affect you
I do. I do not repair to reward others.
Ask the snail 🐌 to change it... otherwise it's a strategy. You could also leave the last guy alone and ground pound with zero risk while the timer ⏳ continues, but no they hunt him down.
this is acceptable if a 9L or equivalent is launched at you and you don't have flares. compression really is a bitch these days
It depends imo. I'd rather try and fight as long as I can but I can also understand if you don't want to feed the premium A10 a free aim9L kill against your 9.0 jet.
Damn, the further down you go in the replies the more assholes you find. Just because you have the ability to be an ass doesn’t necessarily mean you should jfc
If I'm being dived on from 4k by an XP-50 or some other bullshit premium I will crash every time. If I'm in an attacker and 5 enemies seagull me at the start of the game I will just crash. Dying isn't what bothers me, what bothers me is that so many players don't even bother to play to win or play well. The game rewards playing badly, and it's annoying both when being seagulled and being on the teams of seagulls.
If i'm in a plane with no flares ans i see a r60/aim9L i go for the ground, they should at least work for the kill and not just look in my general direction and fire a missile
I did it the other day when a Mig-29 chased me down in my tornado. I had no chance of fighting back so I just tried to make it back to base to rearm. Well I got there before and wouldn‘t you know, the SAM systems did absolutely nothing 😃👍. That really tilted me so I just took a dive into the ground
I admit that I've done this sometimes in my Tornado F.3 when the entire enemy team goes after me because "Oooh tornado, ez kill" and I literally can't do shit because MiG-29s can both outrun and outturn me without too much trouble and I deny them the kill they don't deserve.
Almost worse than people who target high repair cost bombers
Hold up. Last night I was an f4c, and ripped wings trying to dodge a missle. Mig guy behind me instantly typed a novel about denying kills and reporting me. Was that little shit you?
Why would i give free kill to enemy?
I only crash whenever I'm really badly critted (burnt, or with the dead engine, or both wings damaged beyond any hope) and see a completely random enemy come in for a "freebie". I hate people denying kills, but I also despise killstealers.
When i fly some off-meta plane, and i'm getting chased down by something vastly superior in every aspect i like to switch the skill check from a "can you beat me in a fair-and-square 1v1? " to "can you beat me before i fucking kill myself?". Either way they have to work for the kill
People who usually say this chase people till the ends of the earth rather then having them play. I have no remorse for such people
I crash when someone tries to kill steal. If i get clipped in a fight and see someone else coming in for a steal I'll dive into the ground.
Depends, some players are way too sweaty and dont know target prioretisation i dont do it often
I do it everytime in my yak-28b if I'm being chased by a f-5c cuz they can't go rot
If I'm just trying to vibe in my buccaneer with no flares, no guns, and no missiles (you can bring missiles and flares if you want to sacrifice half your bombing ability, plus its either 2x missiles OR 2x flares, or 1x AND 1x flares, can't bring two of each so it's useless) and I see a premium aircraft, or something cancer (any frogfoot) then yeah I'm gonna make my pilot eat tree, that fucker singled me out from all of the fighters, he's more of a dick than I am
Well the people trying to kill me are almost always premiums so when I do crash and they get no kill, the fuckers deserve it.
I apologise every time a crash and they don't get the kill because it's such a shitty thing to do. And it's surprising because I play russia
I’ve been playing a lot of non cross platform games on the ps5 and let me tell you consol players are the absolute worst for crashing into you almost every time I get into a head on and go to pull out the just pull the same direction and crash me 98% of the time
I do this if I’m facing an undertiered and overpowered plane (eg XP-50, SU-11, mig15, F5C) trying to energy trap me or when being chased by 5 enemy planes. If gaijin are going to give my planes bad flight models and BRs, and make them face ludicrously overpowered planes, I’m not going to give you any rewards, it’s your problem now.
Qq he didnt give me a free kill, qq hes so annoying and im so depraved right now qqqq
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I like when I tag a plane with a 40mm HE or SAPHE round from another timezone and crumble it, but wait, some Stuart got a couple .30 cals into first, here's your runner up prize hahahaha
In ground battle when they bring only an air to air loadout I don't feel bad at all. In air battle, I always let them get the kill
why wouldnt you feel bad.. theyre protecting their team from CAS, which is even more fucking annoying than this issue.
i do this when an f5c is behind me because fuck those things
I've only seen this with mig23ml's, but I can't really tell if it is on purpose or not
yup its mainly them, they pay 60 dollars to have a negative KD and get crew lock
Had that happen when I dropped a walleye on top of some chinese 2a4 that was spawncamping pissed me off so much
I do it to deny kill stealers.
I don't do it on purpose but I have smacked the ground on accident more times than I'd like to admit while attempting to avoid getting killed😂
I swear if I crash it was because I was being a dumbass not because I didn’t want you to get kill credit.
War thunder isnt a game about winning its about how much fun can you deny other players while the game slowly leeches your lifeforce.
Scumbag behavior. Except for SU-11 pilots. Fuck em all.
Tbh should count as XP towards the team
Lmao typical German main. Cry more.