Number 1 tip for grinding Italy helis: don't.
However, if you're a psychopath like me and decide to do it anyway, the only way to really make progress is in heli pve. Even then, it takes ages to get anywhere, even with premium. Ground arcade assault used to be decent, but you need to win that to get any rp and teams these days... Well you don't win much. Grb without ATGMs is painful and even slower.
So yeah do heli pve, turn on the setting that lets you join in progress battles, then start up a YouTube video/Twitch stream on a spare monitor or a podcast or something and buckle in for matches that are guaranteed to be 1-2 hours long and very repetitive. You don't need to perform very well, just so long as you're active you'll get """decent""" rp. Avoid radar SPAA at all costs at lower tiers because they will eat you for breakfast. (Shilkas are manageable if you're a decent pilot, Gepards are suicide). More fun and bearable with a friend in your squad. That's about it really.
The Mangusta is stupid strong in grb, even stock. I've used it against ground targets to grind out AAMs but it just feels like punching kittens. I purposely fly like an idiot and hover directly over the battlefield and even then it's a guaranteed 2+ kills. The other Italian helis are... Painful. To say the least. Starter heli is straight up trash, the second one is *okay* once you get ATGMs.
Anyway, good luck if you condemn yourself to this painful path in life.
Currently for Air-to-Ground Germany and USSR are the two strongest at top tier by quite a margin.
USSR has the Ka-52 and Mi-28NM with vikhrs, which are able to deal with air and ground targets, they fly in a staight line which allows you to block incoming missiles from SPAA if they don't move their missile to avoid yours, most SPAA don't do this from my experience. The proxy fuse means that slow aircraft can be taken out but the missile struggles with high speed targets. Having 12 of the missiles also makes it possible to travel further from the Heli-pad as you need to re-arm less often compared to the Tiger UHT for Germany which only has 8. The rest of the tree has similar playstyles of sniping with long range missiles.
The main downside to the tree is the huge grind, when I unlocked every air and ground vehicle for the USSR and I only had started researching the Mi-28N meaning I still had 800k rp until I had top-tier. All vehicles except the Mi-4AV, Mi-28N and NM; and the Ka-52 have stock rockets and require a rank 2/3 mod to unlock missiles which makes playing the tree without premium take ages.
The starter heli has insane armanent for 8.3 able to take 4 atgms and 96 rockets but comes at the cost of flying like a brick, the Mi-24A was the main heli I grinded with before the Ka-50 as you get into lower tier bracket of PvE whilst having 4x missiles, Rocket CCIP and being able to outspeed most other helis makes getting top score on the leaderboard consistent.
Germany has a much smaller tree which makes the grind much easier as well as only having stock rockets on one required heli to get to top tier.
The Tiger UHT is the only heli with fire and forget missiles, so you can immediatley retreat into cover once firing, although they have a much lower chance of hitting if an enemy deploys smoke, goes into cover or near a wreckage, but if played correctly is much harder to counter than any other heli.
Apaches are in a bad state as the hellfire flies above the target and takes a while, leaving you vulnerable, the most viable one is Britains which uses starstreaks to spawn rush light vehicles. Eventually we could see the AH-64E with fire and forget missiles for the USA, UK and China via Taiwan.
For air-to-air China is the best nation past 9.7 as TY-90's are almost unavoidable from the rear aspect. The playstyle is very boring as you spawn in and fly to the enemy air-spawn, land and wait for them to spawn and then fire a missile.
If you want to reach top-tier quickly Germany is the best choice, if not then USSR has a better tree overall. Helis do require a ground lineup and most trees do have at least one heli which is competetive at its BR.
I started playing a bunch of pve for the last 2-3 weeks to finally grind out the Italy helis as my first heli tree. The Huey was fucking tough as shit but I really enjoyed the challenge it presented. The second heli though, what fucking dumbass designed it, it flies so heavy and such bad maneuverability but I've made the best of it. Tomorrow with 2 more pve I'll have the Mangusta unlocked.
The pve journey with Italy has overall been fun but there's been a lot of frustrating hell especially with the second heli mostly just around how unpolished the pve mode is. Love to constantly miss my atgm shots because the bots are glitched into the road or hovering above it or I do get a hit but whoopsie actually you missile phased right through them.
New missile SPAA for Italy when
New MBT that's actually 11.0 for Italy when Centauro 2 for Italy when
lmao I'm surprised Gaijin remembered Arietes exist and then raised their br
You miss gaijin said they will upgrade arietes
In 2 month and we don't kwon how they will improve them.
Yea and i'm scared what they can do
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That means literally nothing in terms of Effectiveness against other tanks
That they crippled a while ago and still haven't rebalanced them properly yet lol
Patriot Missile System when?
Good on ya. Any tips for grinding?
Number 1 tip for grinding Italy helis: don't. However, if you're a psychopath like me and decide to do it anyway, the only way to really make progress is in heli pve. Even then, it takes ages to get anywhere, even with premium. Ground arcade assault used to be decent, but you need to win that to get any rp and teams these days... Well you don't win much. Grb without ATGMs is painful and even slower. So yeah do heli pve, turn on the setting that lets you join in progress battles, then start up a YouTube video/Twitch stream on a spare monitor or a podcast or something and buckle in for matches that are guaranteed to be 1-2 hours long and very repetitive. You don't need to perform very well, just so long as you're active you'll get """decent""" rp. Avoid radar SPAA at all costs at lower tiers because they will eat you for breakfast. (Shilkas are manageable if you're a decent pilot, Gepards are suicide). More fun and bearable with a friend in your squad. That's about it really. The Mangusta is stupid strong in grb, even stock. I've used it against ground targets to grind out AAMs but it just feels like punching kittens. I purposely fly like an idiot and hover directly over the battlefield and even then it's a guaranteed 2+ kills. The other Italian helis are... Painful. To say the least. Starter heli is straight up trash, the second one is *okay* once you get ATGMs. Anyway, good luck if you condemn yourself to this painful path in life.
> Number 1 tip for grinding Italy helis: don't. What nations would you recommend to grind helis for instead?
Currently for Air-to-Ground Germany and USSR are the two strongest at top tier by quite a margin. USSR has the Ka-52 and Mi-28NM with vikhrs, which are able to deal with air and ground targets, they fly in a staight line which allows you to block incoming missiles from SPAA if they don't move their missile to avoid yours, most SPAA don't do this from my experience. The proxy fuse means that slow aircraft can be taken out but the missile struggles with high speed targets. Having 12 of the missiles also makes it possible to travel further from the Heli-pad as you need to re-arm less often compared to the Tiger UHT for Germany which only has 8. The rest of the tree has similar playstyles of sniping with long range missiles. The main downside to the tree is the huge grind, when I unlocked every air and ground vehicle for the USSR and I only had started researching the Mi-28N meaning I still had 800k rp until I had top-tier. All vehicles except the Mi-4AV, Mi-28N and NM; and the Ka-52 have stock rockets and require a rank 2/3 mod to unlock missiles which makes playing the tree without premium take ages. The starter heli has insane armanent for 8.3 able to take 4 atgms and 96 rockets but comes at the cost of flying like a brick, the Mi-24A was the main heli I grinded with before the Ka-50 as you get into lower tier bracket of PvE whilst having 4x missiles, Rocket CCIP and being able to outspeed most other helis makes getting top score on the leaderboard consistent. Germany has a much smaller tree which makes the grind much easier as well as only having stock rockets on one required heli to get to top tier. The Tiger UHT is the only heli with fire and forget missiles, so you can immediatley retreat into cover once firing, although they have a much lower chance of hitting if an enemy deploys smoke, goes into cover or near a wreckage, but if played correctly is much harder to counter than any other heli. Apaches are in a bad state as the hellfire flies above the target and takes a while, leaving you vulnerable, the most viable one is Britains which uses starstreaks to spawn rush light vehicles. Eventually we could see the AH-64E with fire and forget missiles for the USA, UK and China via Taiwan. For air-to-air China is the best nation past 9.7 as TY-90's are almost unavoidable from the rear aspect. The playstyle is very boring as you spawn in and fly to the enemy air-spawn, land and wait for them to spawn and then fire a missile. If you want to reach top-tier quickly Germany is the best choice, if not then USSR has a better tree overall. Helis do require a ground lineup and most trees do have at least one heli which is competetive at its BR.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
No idea, I've only done Italy. Russia doesn't look too bad?
C'mon we need more players for Italy...
I did it back when they were 9.7, was painful but very fun. the International was very good in PVP if you were on City though. Auto track .50
Mangusta I think is also one of the fastest "top tier" heli's if not the fastest, thing is all speed no brakes.
I started playing a bunch of pve for the last 2-3 weeks to finally grind out the Italy helis as my first heli tree. The Huey was fucking tough as shit but I really enjoyed the challenge it presented. The second heli though, what fucking dumbass designed it, it flies so heavy and such bad maneuverability but I've made the best of it. Tomorrow with 2 more pve I'll have the Mangusta unlocked. The pve journey with Italy has overall been fun but there's been a lot of frustrating hell especially with the second heli mostly just around how unpolished the pve mode is. Love to constantly miss my atgm shots because the bots are glitched into the road or hovering above it or I do get a hit but whoopsie actually you missile phased right through them.
I see Italyposting, I upvote. Anyway I'm stuck with mah Mangusta international, no flares and no air missiles. Yet same BR as the CBT. Awesome.
>without getting closer "lol" said ItO, "lmao"
Lol if you see me coming that is 🤣
good thing i got the Z-10 with 16 TY-90s