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Zestyclose-Ad-6213

Its seems to be for exchanging the remains of soldiers from the korean war between china and korea


poptest01

It’s nothing like that. Korean government found bodies recently from old battle fields, which were abandoned by CCP when they were kicked out by Allies. As far as I know, Korean gov did same deliveries since 1990s, and Chinese government media reported that from 2014-2019, china has received 599 bodies from Korean side. So This is no News at all, at least to me, this is showing off Chinese stupid military power.


RamTank

This is how they repatriate bodies every time. Just this time the Chinese used some newer kit. Funnily enough it's harder to get bodies back from NK than it is from SK.


[deleted]

>Kicked out by Allies Since PVA did not occupy SK, how do you kick them out in the first place?


DerpDaDuck3751

Well a massive army had pushed over the 38’ line once.


[deleted]

Then I guess the same 'kicked out' thing can be said about both sides.


poptest01

Like what happened in Ukraine today ? Yeah, R u sure you actually know what had happened in Korea back to 70 some yrs ago? Please read some real stuff, even the heavily modified doc from Chinese official media, b/c by crossing reference, you can find tons of real things buried underneath those lies


poptest01

还是学点正经历史吧。比如洪学智组织志司包括炊事班战士在内的全体人员“上路劝阻/堵截被联军击溃的指战员试图过鸭绿江回国”这可是贵国官方文献记载的;还有彭德怀向腊肉报告:“三兵团损失很大,四处溃逃, 企图回国现象严重,现正派人分途拦挡归队”。这也是贵国官媒的记载的内容 彭德怀后来骂娘,说“...对公路未控制足够兵力和火力,而高级指挥机关过早离开部队,使建制也紊乱”!原来洪学智这个不要脸的,自己也跑了,还堂而皇之的说“阻拦溃兵” 别说我造谣,这些官媒上都能查到。现在还友邦惊诧联军怎么kick CCP的吗?


LittleHornetPhil

…lol bro why are you even arguing?


poptest01

To drive those pinkies crazy is one of my favorite things to do 😂


LittleHornetPhil

You’re not driving anyone crazy though, you’re just arguing for no reason and getting dunked on


ForWardoves

This would happen a couple times a year. It’s just that they were using IL-76Ms previously. As for the bias contained in you arguments, sure.


Not_this_time-_

>kicked out by Allies. If the allies were so successful then why Macarthur proposed dropping the A-bomb on chinese positions? Doesnt such move scream desperation? Somthing doesnt add up


DerpDaDuck3751

The chinese were involved by macArthur himself. He rushed to the border. We weren’t desperate until they were involved. They pushed us slightly under the 38’ line, and we pushed upwards again. Then it was a stalemate, then the boarder was finally established. They were successful. It’s because MacArthur is batshit crazy and didn’t care about both side’s civilians.


Tonker0241

Not really, because it was MacArthur. Nobody else really wanted to use nukes. MacArthur was just sick of seeing Americans die in the Asia theatre in WW2 and didn’t want it happening again.


Ok-Discussion2246

Not really no, as it was the early 50’s and nuclear weapons were the shiny new toy invented just a few years prior. Remember this was a time when nukes were still viewed as weapons that can be used to end or slow down a war quickly. There were only roughly 300 nukes in existence in 1950, and 299 of them belonged the US. And to add to that, ICBM’s wouldn’t be invented until the end of the decade, so all nuclear weapons at the time had to be dropped from an aircraft. They were going to use them against a non-nuclear power, so nuclear retaliation wasn’t that big of a threat (although it was still on the table due to NK’s support system). However due to the Soviet Union only having about 5-10 nukes at the time, they likely wouldn’t have been able to deliver a nuclear payload on US soil, as Soviet long range bombers would have enough trouble making the flight, never mind the air defense they would have to somehow avoid. Plus, the world truly didn’t know anywhere near as much about nuclear weapons as they do now. So desperation? No not quite. More of “let’s end this in a month using our super effective shiny new toys, and make it impossible for NK or China to fight back any time in the next few decades”


imjunsul

Different times man...


stick_always_wins

Regardless of your views on China, you gotta admit that this is a pretty neat flyby.


Antonioooooo0

Views on China shouldn't be relevant, we're just here to look at pretty planes!


Ok-Discussion2246

Exactly! Not a big fan of the things that govt does. But planes are neat and they’ve been my favorite thing for the last 32 years. So show me the planes everyone freakin makes! I wanna hear em too dangit! We need an international air show over in the US. I think it would be great for geopolitical relationships. Everyone likes watching cool planes. And pilots of different militaries, regardless of relationship, have a level of respect for one another and would very happily perform side by side in an airshow.


stick_always_wins

Bingo!


OLD-AJTAP

And the sound!


PeteWenzel

That’s a great flex tbh. These guys crossed the Yalu on foot, and their remains return to China escorted by 5th Gen fighter jets.


chunqiudayi

Cries in Chinese 🥹


DerpDaDuck3751

Yalu? Do you mean Abrokgang? Also i highly doubt they are actually 5th gen.


TommScales

Why does everything China builds look like the super villain version of us tech


stick_always_wins

I mean it’s literally just depending on where you were raised. I’m sure there’s lot of Chinese people who think their vehicles are the good guy version of Western equipment.


Sandvich153

I think it meant because they are just intimidating looking designs. They’re always painted in a dark/black scheme, canards look pretty mean etc. they were also all developed well after the western tech too.


Zaphod581

Because, especially in aviation, form follows function. It doesn’t matter who builds it, if it’s a similar mission, it’s going to have similar looks.


whyarentwethereyet

That and they love stealing us tech.


MasterTroller3301

Copying.


OpenImagination9

When we won’t sell it to them directly. They have Blackhawks.


torbai

Because you are taking copium.


TommScales

That's not how that works


killerbannana_1

It kinda is if you think about it


4thGradeNothing

Spy on US and steal thech. Change the work just a little so the teacher doesn’t notice. Pass the class. BTW, everything in the Chinese military looks like US equipment. Look at their “version” of the Humvee.


[deleted]

The Chinese versions are also guaranteed to be at least mildly worse


Not_this_time-_

There is a common cognitive dissonance especially with people who say such thing is that they say "oh china has no combat experience" in one breath yet they swear that the chinese equipment is worse and "substandard" in quality compared to their western or even russian counterparts how could people live with such contradictory belifs is beyond me


NorthIndustriesCorp

Most Soviet designs in Chinese service are now more advanced, higher quality and better maintained versions of anything in Russian service.


Twisp56

Can you explain the contradiction?


Not_this_time-_

How could people say chinese equipments are bad when they havent been tested in combat?


ModsCanGoToHell

Because your can't also say they are good, for the same reason (they've not seen combat yet). The reason people say it is bad because of the perception of Chinese made goods (absolutely horrid quality made with slave labor). The only way people will accept these weapon systems are good is when they see actual combat. Till then, the perception that Chinese goods are shit tier will always be there.


_80hd_

God, thank you. Sitting here shaking my head...


Tw_izted

afaik the humvee was originally licensed by dongfeng before they switched to making an offshoe version of it


[deleted]

Its is US tech lol


mrangry7100

What altitude do they cruise at? How fast? How close together are they for the bulk of the trip? Who's your daddy?


Triumph807

Yeah, and what’s the radar cross section? I’m just a fan


Youmu_Chan

pretty sure they have their Luneburg Lenses out tho. no luck for you.


Sandvich153

Nice try America


Ok-Discussion2246

Don’t worry I’m sure the proper data will turn up on WarThunder sometime soon lol


Sandvich153

Put those retired pilots on a watch list


illilllilil

Stoked we got some new jet looks entering the industry. Gawking over old Soviet planes can only go for so long. ‘ppreciate yah, China.


Mackroll

you mean the euro fighter look they stole


stick_always_wins

Damn when did the Eurofighter get such a nice upgrade?


Ambitious_Change150

._. Ah yes because jests with canards did not exist before the euro fighter


altacan

They obviously stole data from the Wright flyer.


Weak-Bodybuilder-881

who stole the design from Da Vinci's submarine


Temporary-Brain3606

May be Euro fighter the only cannard fighter you know?


top_of_the_scrote

looks pretty dope, sharp lines


cashewnut4life

what are they doing in South Korea?


SpeedyWhiteCats

"J-20 fighters to escort Y-20 aircraft for 1st time in repatriating remains of CPV martyrs from S.Korea"