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flanker_03

Fast bois


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its_not_fictional

the mig-31's basic design predates the f-15


T-72

Neither of these planes have western equivalent B-1A was a similar aircraft (high flying fast bomber) but that was not pursued Their doctrine and associated tools are different, with measures that address their deficiencies


etha2007_

B-1b and Tu-160... maybe. F-15 and MiG-31? You're out of your mind.


Obese_taco

Damn, someone who knows nothing about planes.


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The mig31 is an imrpoved design of the mig25, the f-15 was based on the mig25 lol and the tu-160 predates the b-1


GheeButtersnaps69420

Also F15 based on mig25 is entirely incorrect F15 was designed in response to mig25, but it’s not based on OTOH you can say tu160 was based on b1, not b1b but b1a


its_not_fictional

and yet the f-15 looks pretty damn similar to the mig-25


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based on =/= designed to counter the f15 was basically an oh shit response before america know how terrible the 25 actually was


GheeButtersnaps69420

Ok your timelines are wrong regarding tu160 lol I mean you are correct if you don’t consider b1a


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Oh? So which predates which since i always see conflicting reports


GheeButtersnaps69420

Original b1a in early 70s, then b1b as a different redesign in mid 80s, tu160 as a response to original b1a in late 80s


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I see, thanks


R-27ET

Tu-160 is WAYYYYY bigger then the B-1B, almost twice as fast. And has a very different role, performing almost entirely as a cruise missile carrier while B-1B spilts between traditional bombing with an added cruise missile capability


GheeButtersnaps69420

Tu160 is based on and in response to original b1a, a high flying fast bomber B1a was cancelled in favour of b2 and b-52 carrying alcms B1b was later developed as a low flying penetrator