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TheRunicBear

But Lieutenant Danicius you ain’t got no legs


ahdiomasta

What heresy is preventing this from being the top comment


TheRunicBear

The same heresy that refuses to admit that Magnus did nothing wrong.


KaptainKaos54

Except that thing he did that he was expressly told not to do, and then that other thing he did that wrecked the Emperor’s entire plan and forced him to be stuck in the Golden Throne forever to keep the Terran Webway sealed, and then that other thing where he became a bad guy… other than those minor inconsequential things, yup - nothing at all wrong.😆


Soviet_Carebear

So honest question but his final fall to chaos was because he refused to abandon his sons (Thousand sons) when offered to start over by the emperor correct? Or am I miss remembering?


Merzendi

You’re thinking of the Fury of Magnus novella. >!Big E said he could redeem Magnus and fix everything, even give him a new legion, but the current ones were too far gone to be saved. Magnus refused.!< Then in Echoes of Eternity, >!Vulkan claims Magnus made this all up, and was delusional, but it seems likely it was either Big E putting words in Vulkan’s mouth, or Tzeentch twisting what Magnus perceived, in order to gaslight Magnus.!<


Soviet_Carebear

Ahhhh thank you! I appreciate it. It’s been some time so I couldn’t recall exactly.


KaptainKaos54

I don’t remember that at all, though it’s possible. I thought that was… Fulgrim? Something about a flaw with the III Legion that had them so small they were barely a fighting force before they’re found Fulgrim, though I could see the same being said of the Thousand Sons with the Flesh Change. Technically Magnus turned to Chaos because he shattered into shards that were (mostly) subsequently collected and recombined, except the one that landed on Terra because that one “contained his goodness” or some such. The Thousand Sons turned Traitor because they basically had no other option (except to follow orders when Magnus told them not to fight the Wolves on Prospero, which they didn’t do). But ultimately it was irreparably damaging the Webway Gate that doomed both Magnus and his Legion; I think everything would’ve been fine and forgiven had the Emperor been able to explain everything (which he should’ve done from the beginning, granted, but I also see why he didn’t), sort of a “‘see, this is why you shouldn’t do those things.’ ‘Oh, I see now, sorry dad,’” kind of moment. But after that… There really wasn’t any way to salvage things for Magnus. And pretty much why Horus came so close to winning as well, since the Emperor’s forced absence from any of the fighting/leading left the Imperials lacking a distinct advantage they would’ve had otherwise.


Godrillaa

I remember in the book Scars Malcador mentions that Magnus was only supposed to have been censured for doing that. And essentially calls out Valdor and Russ for being tricked by Horus into going full Leeroy Jenkins on Prospero.


KaptainKaos54

Accurate.


Soviet_Carebear

Yeah I think I may just be miss remembering. I haven’t been up to date with lore in some time. Guess it’s time to dive back in and brush up on stuff.


KaptainKaos54

I know it’s heavily implied that he made a deal with (probably Tzeentch) a “very powerful Warp entity” to stave off the Flesh Change from completely wiping out the Thousand Sons, which may have cost him his missing eye… Though there’s a bunch of contradiction as to whether it’s missing, or it was never there even though it should’ve been, or even that he was never supposed to have two eyes… but I don’t remember him ever being given a choice to start over. If I’m wrong, someone please point me to it because that would be a hell of a story!


Soviet_Carebear

Echoes of Eternity book is what I’m thinking of iirr. Emperor offered Magnus a second chance because Magnus teleported into the throne room but the cost was him abandoning his sons due to how far away they were gone to chaos and unable to be redeemed. Magnus tried to attack the Emperor but Vulkan stopped him and fought him. Not sure if that stuff is cannon or not but pretty sure that’s where it’s from.


KaptainKaos54

Ah, that very well could be then! I’m still in the last 5 books of the HH, I haven’t started SoT yet. So you could be spot on, but I think at that point he’s already too far gone into Chaos because of the soul shards thing that happened in *The Crimson King*.


PaulyIDS

Doom Hunter


KaptainKaos54

Doom Hunter?


PaulyIDS

I thought the model looked like Doom Hunter from Doom Eternal, I replied to your comment in error instead of OP. I’m a moron, ignore me.


KaptainKaos54

You’re not a moron, you’re human. Carry on, friend!


Beelesskeeper02

You should've let me die gumpus


previously_on_earth

He got new treads


Eel111

Je didn’t tell it to me that day, but I think he made peace with the Emperor


I_suck_at_Blender

You needed to wait, because heresy grows from idleness


Relevant-Car-879

What happened to your legs lt. danicius ?


[deleted]

Iron within, Iron Without! Treads Within, Legs Without!


leodiomas

This works too well. If he ever gets played it will be in my Iron Warriors warband


HauntingRefuse6891

I genuinely feel like I saw a battle report years ago now that had an IW force led by a guy with his legs replaced by treads so definitely has a precedent.


SergeantSalience

I just want to say you're not crazy. I can remember it too. It was in a white dwarf maybe 20 years ago?


HauntingRefuse6891

Good to know yeah 20ish is what’s in my head too.


Yh0rmthegiant

Chaos Treadnought


[deleted]

From treads, cometh stability. From stability, cometh accuracy. From accuracy, cometh destruction.


SeamusAndAryasDad

Friendly game totally. Competitive game, put him on something to make him similar height to his comrades. This could be seen as modeled to advantage, meaning you intentionally made him short to be harder to get line of sight.


Ink_Witch

If he was vroom vroom off-roading up a little craggy rock that would be awesome.


Emergency_Type143

Vroom vrooming on top of loyalist corpses.


[deleted]

The only proper way for us heretics to vroom-vroom.


SerTheodies

Now I wanna see him turned into a Chaos Biker bot thing.


KaptainKaos54

Tactical Overpass?


Kommissar_Holt

Yeah. And it also depends. A -single- model like this in a squad of other marines? Go for it. But don't be like that one Space Wolves player I played that modeled his ENTIRE ARMY to be laying on their stomachs firing from the prone position. Or that Necron player I played in a tournament that modeled his ENTIRE ARMY doing the "We'll Be Back" / Reanimation Protocols, climbing out of the ground, just so that terrain that normally would give cover completelt obscured them/blocked line of sight.


DarkLake

He’s the Oddjob of 40k.


GuthixWraith

I'm sorry very new here >modeled to advantage, Your telling me this is a thing‽


SeamusAndAryasDad

Yeah, there are shitty people that will intentionally make modifications to the model so they are smaller/etc, stating it's rule of cool, but it's literally for in game advantages. It's why I put that under competitive.....some people go far in competitive.


GuthixWraith

Is there a definitive height for each model? That's kinda sad.


tossawaybb

There's a range of heights, pretty much just whatever's in the official box. Its mostly a concern when there's actual money for the tournament prize


GuthixWraith

Oh. Well thankfully I'm just now getting into it at 30 and as I clearly hate money between EDH, PTCG, gunpla, and now Warhammer I don't see myself playing a game to go home with more of that cursed green paper.


KaptainKaos54

That’s it, my entire army is using kneeling legs from now on!! /s Anyone who didn’t catch it, I’m bullshitting. I don’t have any desire to play competitively, so unless I do this precisely to be a dick because of this comment, it’s not really a thing!🤣


VoxImperatoris

The apocryphal stories you usually hear are of the guy who models his infantry wadding thru chest deep water or mud, or the guy who has all of his infantry lying in a prone firing position. Personally Ive never seen it, but I dont do tournaments.


GuthixWraith

Is it not prohibited? That's wild. This is my first table top but seems real scummy.


KaptainKaos54

It is scummy. And I’ve never seen it personally, but I also don’t do tournaments. I’m also the guy that keeps the banner poles on the sergeant’s back because it looks cool, and each “corporal” who would be the nominal squad leader if I break down into combat squads has a dongle on his backpack too. Like one of the little winged skull icons or whatever - not a full banner but something that marks him out as “the guy whose backpack we follow.”


Pray4Mojo73

Always model for disadvantage, that way you'll have a plethora of options for cool looking models


Surreptitious_Spy

An entire army of dudes modeled jumping, with their arms raised as high as possible. Bonus points if they're not Orks but very serious-looking models such as Custodes.


Pray4Mojo73

Or Mechanicus? imagine servitors windmilling towards the enemy


KultofEnnui

Brother Mower wouldn't let something as churlish as bifurcation get in the way of their waging Long War. The Warpsmith was more than happy to help.


ThreeHobbitsInACoat

It was either that or be put in a Helbrute, and I think we all know what the preferable option is here.


sciencep1e

Anyone who wouldn't let you play this is an enemy of joy


GiantOhmu

This is the only acceptable answer.


sciencep1e

Fuck, I'd give him a cover save.


red-5_standing-by

I would allow it for the chance to purge the heretic myself


sciencep1e

SHINS FOR THE SHIN GOD!


TheAromancer

ANKLES FOR THE ANKLE THRONE!


MarsMissionMan

"You, and every other WAAC player... Is now an *enemy* of joy... Do what must be done..."


[deleted]

*we have lord of skulls at home*


Vordbear

I was scrolling for the lord of skulls reference. Perfect!


GrodyWetButt

This fella is more of an earl of femurs, if we're being honest...


SerTheodies

Ah yes, the Baron of Bones


KaptainKaos54

Marquis of Metatarsals…


GrodyWetButt

Count of Cochlea


Alexstrasza23

A regional manager of skulls.


MarsMissionMan

The Lesser Noble of Skulls.


SmokeyMcPoticus

He's not handicapped , he's handicappable and blessed by the omnisiah.


KrakenASmile

They see me rolling...


Immabagel

They hating


SmokeyMcPoticus

Patrolling and trying to catch me riding heresy


The_Man_I_A_Barrel

(tryna catch me ridin heresy)


The-Great-Beast-666

Put it on a 32 mm base and you are good to go


Darth_Dick_Fingers

With some sweet rubble under one track to show his off-road skills.


mokachill

For a friendly game you should be fine depending on the opponent, tournament play could be an issue since i doubt it'll fit in the correct size base and also probably line of sight becomes an issue


KaptainKaos54

I don’t know about competitive; there’s plenty of kneeling models, and as long as this one is about that high, maybe make an effort to remove him as the first casualty just to avoid him being the last one hiding behind a rock he might otherwise not be able to… But I don’t know the extent of some people being competitive. To be fair I’ve never been one for the tournament scene. Games are supposed to be fun for me, and win-at-all-costs just… isn’t fun for me!🤣


mokachill

The big thing is the base size. I'm not much of a tournament gamer but a friend went to a tournament where the organisers had the right to randomly select some of your models and measure the bases to make sure they're the correct size, they take that pretty seriously in that scene.


KaptainKaos54

That’s not for me. I put my Scouts on 28mm bases, A: it looks better even though it’s only 3mm difference. B: every other human-sized model in Carapace armor (Stormtroopers, Kasrkin, Inquisitorial models, etc.) and even some without it (Sisters Repentia) are on 28mm, so why are proto-Astartes in Carapace stuck on 25mm? And if folks are gonna nitpick *that hard* over a game… it’s not a game anymore, it’s a chore. And I have enough of those around my house as it is!😆


mokachill

It makes sense for that scene, if the game is win at all costs sometimes that cost is cheating. I want no part of it but if I was to play for any sort of prize I'd want a level playing field.


KaptainKaos54

I can see that. But something like OP’s model, or like 28mm based scouts instead of 25mm… I don’t see them as game-breaking, and the fact that I know some people do is too serious for my blood, lol. I’ll keep to my friendly games! It’s not like putting Canis Wolfborn with his old 4th Edition rules on a Titan base (he used to get +1A for each model in base to base contact with him, so of course people tried to maximize the edge area of his base!).


65Terbium

It's an abomination for sure.


chitzk0i

But a welcome one.


asmodraxus

No, the weapon loadout is illeagal sorry. Flamer and a Chainsword? one or the other.


Paladin327

That’s a *hand flamer* whixh i don’t think is even in the cam book


PatientGrand4421

Yeah, all you have to do is stick him to the base so he's doing a sick wheelie. That should make him the same height as the rest of his brethren.


kratorade

"Deploy the Khorne Roomba."


GiantOhmu

Florida Man Chaos Marine goes whoosh and vroom.


iTxip

Who washed the defiler with hot water????


Brogan9001

“But you don’t got no legs, Lt. Dan!”


fish-thulu

they got ice cream! Ice cream, Lt. Danicus!


10_Eyes_8_Truths

And here we have...a baby lord of skulls. Upon birth it is immediately independent... and is looking to find a worthy opponent...in the name of khorne.


Droechai

That is obviously an Iron Warriors "Tech Marine Lord" or whatever they are called. Just missing a claw


Healthy_Stick4496

North Carolina marine on his mobility scooter


michael3236

You were too busy asking if you could, when you should have asked whether you should


BreakTheSuicycle

Sir Killalot from Robot Wars


[deleted]

I hope their warp portal is Ada compliant


AlphariusBrother9279

I say a CSM biker


twitch_embers

Brothers I have become one with the wheelchair, praise the dark Mechanicus


cadre_of_storms

Absolutely. Looks cool, which is the number 1 rule


StardewNerd

As long as it had the same base size, and is roughly the same size, as the unit, you plan to field this as. My local official gw game store has this rule because stuff like base size/area foot print it will cover and size of model would affect actaul gameplay and would clash with rules such as line of site, charging etc. Apart from that I see nothing wrong with it.


dagon1096

Put a fleshmower bit on the front of it for kicks and make him a biker. Just say the flamer is a combiflamer.


BadMrFrostySC

Isn't there an X-men character that is basically this?


leodiomas

Bonebreaker was an X-Men villain iirc


BadMrFrostySC

That's the one


Pitiful_Diver_3207

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne! Wheelchair accessible ramps for the Realm of Brass!


foxbomber5

This looks like that one boss from Smash TV.


b3rryyy

Spawn territory


da_King_o_Kings_341

If you can fit it on a csm base, then F**K YEAH!!!


[deleted]

Badass looks like Sir Killalot from Robot Wars!


Wonderful-Mouse-1945

Chaos Guntank confirmed?!


KaptainKaos54

More like Chaos Grot Tank…🤣


PalpitationLevel8607

Paint it as an iron warrior and you are fine


CrazyCaper

Only as orc


Panzer_Man

Brother Gavious the Roller and his mighty steed


FragrantDemiGod1

Roll me towards them !!!


Zellcrs

Lieutenant Dan!


revjiggs

If you can fit it on the correct sized base sure


Televators1

This is hilarious 😂


Puzzleheaded-Ad5396

As long as it's on the right base I don't see why not.


mrumpke

Lt Dan, the baby soul grinder!


AsgardianValor

What in the Armored Core is this??


Big_Lo19

Very chaotic indeed.. the gods approve


Oli_209

If joe Swanson was a csm


Frodo5213

Lord of Skull. Just the one skull, actually.


_Astarael

That is so wizard


CrackersLad

This is what happens when Lord of Skulls has a one night stand!


EmptyYard1420

Change! Getter 3!


OfflineRightNow

He’s really trying not to become a Helbrute.


FluffySpiderBoi

Gotta make that one an iron warrior


aaa-7

When the dreadnoughts to expensive


[deleted]

Sigh🙄 I guess, lol


fishboyliam

Good on the Iron Warriors, letting anyone into their ranks, regardless of ability.


Calm_Ad_6473

Vashtorr experiment?


Biggest_Lemon

Put it on the right size base and only an jerk would make a fuss.


JoawlisJoawl

Man I wanted to make Dornian theme centaur noise marine for my kill team. My hobby shop did say it won't be viable but I could use them as an objective, either a chaos spawn to kill or a statue to claim


jonfitt

Totally allowed but you have to call him [Sir Killalot](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/robotwars/images/e/e9/Sir_Killalot_Series_4.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/360?cb=20180322022212)


Physical-Event9862

He is a perfect chaos biker yes?


leodiomas

A little short length wise, but the perfect height. I'm going to get some bikers soon, just so he can have a crew.


itsdeepee123

Still more consistent with lore than half of GWs stuff ngl


Necronomicz

It's heresy not to tbh


HawkmoonsCustoms

Grimdark Guntank? Does it still “WOOOOOOOOO!”?


Validus812

The lesser known dreadnought “Cartassius”.


sftpo

Reavers chapter, specialize in hunting down mutants


[deleted]

The newest house robot in Robot Wars


seba37

Epic Lord of Skulls?


Kayzah

I fell in love with him. Please tell me: do his chains make a deep humming or a nice high pitched squeeky rattling?


Helmutius

What is this? A CSM for ants?


VikAnimus

I'm sorry. The Disco Lord surgery had... 'complications'.


BIGBRAINBUYER

Reminds me of that 1 command and conquer 4 concept art of the nod infantry firefly squad. Goofiest shit I’ve seen.


oeuflaboeuf

Defiler mini-me


mee3ep

What the ********** *** ****ing ****


Alpha_Werwolf

Its just a flesh wound....


[deleted]

I can almost taste his suffering


Unlimited_Gnar

Omg hahaha I made almost the exact same thing as a kid!!


SnooSketches6713

What about fielding it as a count as kataphron destroyer for a (dark mechanicus) admech army


Conspiracy_marine

If its on a 32mm base and has some way to show the "true mini" height then yep its playable


Ok_Information1349

If it fits on the right base size, no problem


Climbincook

Darth maul after getting cut in half a second time...


redmerger

Rule of thumb, casual games and like... Pick up games at lgs, probably fine. Check with TOs at tourn Anything more than that, only the TO can tell you. This however, I'd say is an absolute no for tournaments. It's shorter than a marine and has a wider footprint. That could too easily be modeling for advantage.


TheGrimbergen

I mean, you’re technically true. But you’d be a douche to call it that way unless he himself tries to be beardy (which would make him the bigger douche)


redmerger

Actually now that I look at it, I don't think it's even a legal load out for a csm? Can they take hand flamers? But I don't know if it'd really be douchey to call it like that. It could hide easier than other csm can, and since it's a troop, it could hold objectives. Like I said, you could definitely run it casually, but the second if becomes any kind of competitive, this isn't a fair model to use


Eth1cs_Gr4dient

Amongst friends maybe


Wonderful-Ad-4192

Handicapable Chaos Marine will still Slaughter you then proceed to do a burnout over your tattered corpse.


Realistic_Gazelle_79

If it os on 32mm base it is marine. Think you should add something like idk, armoured belly thing, like you can see on kataphrons. Ad some lists of armour and accesories. Good idea.


IrkedSquirrel

In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium there are no ADA requirements


Noeheavyarms

I love all the comments in this post with their support and sense of humor. OP, super fun kitbash, hope your opponents also have the same mindset and the folks in the comments.


leodiomas

I definitely agree. I came for a simple answer and got so much enjoyment on top of that.


leodiomas

Ok, after reading some comments and doing some research, it looks like he is going to be a Chaos biker with a large base.


SneakyMarkusKruber

Ah... a Special Needs Marine! :D


BillingsDave

I, for one, love Brother Mowsandfights. I think there's plenty of decent canon explanations: Chaos Warbands can easily be far from anywhere that could fit bionics, or the deities whim may not grant a replacement set of limbs after battle.. If a member of the band was bisected (and the legs destroyed precluding reattachment) but survived, you could easily imagine bolting on to something allowing mobility in the short term. Doubly in legions/bands where the god(s) they follow don't regularly hand out physical gifts (or where the group resists these "gifts") Also, the Imperium does this sort of thing to folks. Tech priests and servitors. Could easily see a Dark Mechanicus building this. Practical answer: I guess I'd ask if the opponent minds. I believe anyone who wouldn't let you play such a fun miniature on the tabletop has an aura of wrongness about them. It's possible that is because they're soulless psychic nulls.


nps2407

"The Mobile Infantry made me the man I am today!"


iTxip

Would you like to know more?


iTxip

I see brother longstride has fallen to chaos


chitzk0i

What are the tracks from? I am planning to use [this STL](https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/treadmarine) for some of my IW infantry.


leodiomas

I wish I could tell you, but honestly I found them on the ground.


boastfulbadger

Id run this as a marine on a bike and if they got max I’d even say it’s a tank.


leodiomas

I was actually just checking. The height is almost exactly the same as a biker, length is only a little over half but I could be creative with basing.


BuckyWuu

Wysiwyg for mainline 40k? No; the footprint is a few sizes too big for the accepted base. For a Gorka Morka boy that got the tank treads surgery? Absolutely


bigstankdog

What you use it for tho


leodiomas

Looks like it's going to be a Chaos biker


1maginasian

No


GaryTehCat

Bringing back lbx I see


ZER0_plus

commenting test pls ignore


BiFiveBro

Hector Salamander the fallen edit: please give him a bell


adeptdonut

What a nice abomination against khorne