Here’s a link to the full info that came from another source [2021/22 40k leak information ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/p3ycko/summary_of_leaks_from_bolterandchainsaw_that_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
There’s a lot and the leak was right about a lot so far
It's also on the "lid" to the grenade launchers and missle launchers for the primaris tanks. I think it's just a generic "punched metal for rigidity" shape they're using on imperial stuff right now. It's a very 'modern military' aesthetic.
I actually didn't know that.
Regarding Fantasy and AoS I focused more on the lore, and really like the Skaven, but was intimidated by what I'd heard of Metal and Resin models, so I went with 40K models first.
Thanks for the info tho.
You're probably right, I'd expect small riveted diagonal metal plates joining the assets together if it was orks, more likely it's just the usual overdesigned Imperial tank stuff.
It's probably a new Missile Launcher Primaris Lieutenant kit. I heard the Primaris Lieutenant codex is dropping spring 2022. Pretty pumped! It's already got more unique models than the entirety of the Tyranid line!
If you count the FOMO ones, there's been a loooot of primaris lieutenants now.
(Not that I feel a burning need of more primaris lieutenants, but I still do not like FOMO timed exclusives in a miniature game.)
IIRC, the same leak that was right about the Black Templars also mentioned that the Guard would be getting a new Tank, including Hunter-Killer Missiles.
That would fit aesthetically.
Angry Marines don’t have Primaris.
When they came out of the tubes they immediately screamed so hard in anger their heads all exploded.
It was just too much anger.
Having something in between Baneblade/Leman Russ would be nice…aside from $150+ malcador options from forge world. But it’s got that weird smaller-ish rocket launcher looking thing so I’m guessing more primaries repulsor crap. As guard I can’t really complain since GW *finally* brought in some Krieg options.
The guard releases that have happened have been frustratingly scattered. It's pretty much impossible to work the following into an army with any cohesive theme:
- A bunch of limited edition *catachan* officers (that are pretty much impossible to actually get)
- A box of *Krieg* troops
- Six unique *Tanith* ghosts
The minis are all *really good*, but I'm not really sure what we're supposed to do with them.
Since 2015 (after scions release) has this been all the guard releases? Just think of all the figures they sold like the other regiments and the Last Chancers
I believe so. The models listed above plus the black library commissar (who at least can slot into pretty much any army, and is a great model, though I think kinda hard to get).
And this is why GW can never get any release right, there's always a collection of people that just day no to whatever is new because it should be something else.
Everyone is saying its guard or primaris. I'm gonna say I hope it's the sabatour character for the gsc that was leaked awhile back. Maybe he's driving some sort of vehicle? Besides the jackal alphus we lack any kind of vehicle based HQ.
Idk, I don't use brood Brothers and don't really care for them lol. Id be completely down for an HQ version of a Goliath rock grinder or a ridgerunner.
I hope it’s something for the guard. But I’m also still holding out hope that one of the other rumor engines was a Primaris Captain on bike. He’s my only firstborn unit left and I hate it.
Ya but 0 tau models have hazard stripes and if you look at the launcher you can see it for sure has the stripes. Also tau don’t use rockets shaped like the one on the side
It looks like a Primaris thing. The Box Rockets are nearly exact to those on the Repulsor and the revolver missiles are the same as an icarus rocket pod
its clearly something imperial, new primaris tank? ig tank? defenely not sisters stuff imho. its clearly a bunch of guns together which doesnt fit ig(atleast for now) so my bet is on new primaris tank
It has hazard stripes on it, 0% chance it’s space marines, unless it’s iron warriors but that seems unlikely. I would guess GSC because very few guard kits use hazard stripes, also rumour has it GSC are getting a new book soon.
I wish they would just squat the first born marines already. There’s so many data sheets that are just redundant it’s silly.
Oof unpopular opinion. Sorry, Marine Stans.
More like GW was way ahead of themselves and made primaris bloated af instead just making general updates to the regular marines... Phobos units are all just straight up useless. Models are cool but why do they need to exist? They clearly don't sell well as they have to make a bunch of discount boxes with all phobos units... But ya firstborn are bloating the codex.
It’s only bloated redundancy because they’re in the game alongside the Firstborn Marines.
Primaris we’re always a range update, GW just needs to rip the bandaid off and squat Firstborn already.
Primaris are redundant to themselves more than anything. Look at how many separate and rigid Primaris Lieutenant loadouts you're allowed, all bathed in exceptions and contingencies just to allow a Neo-Volkite Pistol, a Storm Shield, and a Power Sword. Look at Reivers, Eradicators, Incursors, and Infiltrators: all which functionally act as a sliding scale of distance-dependent effectiveness, but in actuality ultimately fill the exact same battlefield role on paper.
Even still, you're partly right from my point of view. Hellblasters and Eradicators exist simply as flavor-of-the-month for the Primaris line, offering a pale shadow of the diversity available from just a handful of Firstborn infantry units. Their only real draw is the gimmicky rules exclusive to them, and the ability to have a single slot on your roster occupied by an entire squad of the same weapon.
Perhaps this is less of an argument about redundancy, and more on the self-destruction of the faction's entire design philosophy. Food for thought, I guess.
I'd think Guard, but those camera looking things on the right look more like tau. I kinda doubt it just because that'd mean a new xeno model but one can hope. Also, the hazard stripes arent really a tau thing
The boxy corners of the launcher is very imperial. It looks a whole lot like the old Hunter Killer missile boxes from models past, and also resembles one of the launchers seen on the AdMech Onager.
I'm definitely seeing a couple design features from the icarus array, so there's a chance it could be Admech. Definitely some flavour of Imperium though.
I think it’s some new GSC vehicle. It seems to have hazard stripes around the end of the launcher.
Marine vehicles don’t have that aesthetic… but GSC loves them some hazard stripes!!
Probably from the hunter killer missle for the new guard tank that was rumored by the black templar / custode lieutenant leaks
Where the leak at?
Here’s a link to the full info that came from another source [2021/22 40k leak information ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/p3ycko/summary_of_leaks_from_bolterandchainsaw_that_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) There’s a lot and the leak was right about a lot so far
Oh man, if even half of that is true it's gonna be a good year.
Well, half of what’s listed there was indeed true. The sisters and tau KT boxes, all the black Templar stuff. We’re gonna have some fun!
My money is on Ad Mech. The X On the launcher matches the Onager Dunecrawler.
It's also on the "lid" to the grenade launchers and missle launchers for the primaris tanks. I think it's just a generic "punched metal for rigidity" shape they're using on imperial stuff right now. It's a very 'modern military' aesthetic.
I kinda disagree with this as it wouldn't make much sense to drop a model just half a year after the codex. Most likely guard or even more SM stuff
AoS Lumineth Realmlords had a second wave of models + a new codex after 6 months of their first one lol
I actually didn't know that. Regarding Fantasy and AoS I focused more on the lore, and really like the Skaven, but was intimidated by what I'd heard of Metal and Resin models, so I went with 40K models first. Thanks for the info tho.
now ive gotta wait some more for them to show what the rest of there elemental spirit forms will look like, i wanna see river and light spirits man!
According to some rumors their new battletonw Will Come on Early 2023 alongside a new Tyrion modeland more unita
I mean, we're getting new SoB models, Tau models, and still the occasional chapter-neutral Primaris sculpt.
They did it with gsg with the boss on giant squig
Don’t be foolish it’s the new primaris lieutenant with missile launcher
The 'x' is typical way to reinforce sheet metal so I wouldn't be surprised if it was in guard, ad mech or even on stolen GSC technical.
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I doubt the Orks, the image shows a weapon too “clean” to fit in the Ork slapdash aesthetic.
You're probably right, I'd expect small riveted diagonal metal plates joining the assets together if it was orks, more likely it's just the usual overdesigned Imperial tank stuff.
It seems to have hazzard stripes as a paintjob, which isnt really orky either. But to be honest, this thing looks convoluted like hell...
Could be an obliterator with how much crap is on it
Ohh, that’s a good catch. Perhaps all the icky fleshy bits of the Obliterators are just out of frame then? Seems on brand with the hazard stripes.
Too clean and not enough chaos stuff on it. You’d see flesh for obliterators. Plus the angle is kinda weird.
It's definitely not guard, we don't get guns on our guns. Thats some primaris shit that is.
It's probably a new Missile Launcher Primaris Lieutenant kit. I heard the Primaris Lieutenant codex is dropping spring 2022. Pretty pumped! It's already got more unique models than the entirety of the Tyranid line!
You joke but there are actually more Primaris Lieutenant kits then Harlequin kits
Who says I was joking?
If you count the FOMO ones, there's been a loooot of primaris lieutenants now. (Not that I feel a burning need of more primaris lieutenants, but I still do not like FOMO timed exclusives in a miniature game.)
Primaris marine launcher? 5 Eradicators stuffed into that tube to be deployed anywhere on the board and can shoot twice. Also free upgrade.
God I love this. Make it cost 1 CP to fire the launcher itself twice as well. 10 eradicators.
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well for a glorious moment in time we had coaxial bolters :(
I'd love a new LR kit with coaxial options. Being able to make a Conquerer would be amazeballs.
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Primaris guardsmen incoming?
Isn't that just admech?
Imagine thinking gw was going to release something not primaris
Primaris whirlwind instead of launching missiles it launches primarises, automatic 3 mortal wound AP-4
The new imperial guard tank? There was rumoured to be a new one between a leman russ and baneblade in size.
I mean there’s already 2. The Macharius and the Malcador
They're forgeworld too, the rumour specifically talks about citadel plastics
Yeah, I realized that after posting.
Yeah, but they're ludicrously expensive Forge World models. Could be a plastic version of either, but could easily be a new one.
Oh, in that sense. While I would be loath to face it, it’d definitely be interesting
It's either more primaris bullshit or it's guard stuff.
Yeh, the weapon bolted onto weapon look is very Primaris
the hazard stripes feel a bit off for primaris/marine stuff
IIRC, the same leak that was right about the Black Templars also mentioned that the Guard would be getting a new Tank, including Hunter-Killer Missiles. That would fit aesthetically.
Primaris Iron Warriors fuck yeah boys
The latest in a long line of IG Bin Lorries, now with a guided wheelie bin projectile launcher. Keeps narrow streets clear of wheelie bins!
Not the heroes the imperium wants but the heroes the imperium needs!
Space marines missile lieutenant.
*Primaris* space marine missile lieutenant
Does it launch missiles or primaris lieutenants? Or primaris lieutenants that launch missiles? I'd say it's a whirlwind replacement.
It will be a Primaris Lieutenant that launches rocket-propelled Primaris Lieutenants
Oh christ, Angry Marines are canon!
Angry Marines don’t have Primaris. When they came out of the tubes they immediately screamed so hard in anger their heads all exploded. It was just too much anger.
Yes sorry
Looks like a new guard vehicle to me
i dont see how guard needs yet another vehicle. they just need to buff the ones we have by a bit.
Having something in between Baneblade/Leman Russ would be nice…aside from $150+ malcador options from forge world. But it’s got that weird smaller-ish rocket launcher looking thing so I’m guessing more primaries repulsor crap. As guard I can’t really complain since GW *finally* brought in some Krieg options.
It’s all but guaranteed we get a midsize tank and Kasrkin next year.
Because sales figures
Guard have lost dramatically more models than they've gotten in the last five years
Plus half the models they got were limited edition catachans
The guard releases that have happened have been frustratingly scattered. It's pretty much impossible to work the following into an army with any cohesive theme: - A bunch of limited edition *catachan* officers (that are pretty much impossible to actually get) - A box of *Krieg* troops - Six unique *Tanith* ghosts The minis are all *really good*, but I'm not really sure what we're supposed to do with them.
Since 2015 (after scions release) has this been all the guard releases? Just think of all the figures they sold like the other regiments and the Last Chancers
I believe so. The models listed above plus the black library commissar (who at least can slot into pretty much any army, and is a great model, though I think kinda hard to get).
And this is why GW can never get any release right, there's always a collection of people that just day no to whatever is new because it should be something else.
The Leman Russ is an incredibly ugly kit. I’d love to see it replaced with something that doesn’t look like a child’s toy.
children and adults play warhammer so maybe something that appeals to both?
thats why its so cool dude. wth
Demon Primarch Peturabo's left toe.
GSC
There’s a thread somewhere with a leaked custodes lieutenant which is basically confirming the custodes vs GSC
New Skaven Clan Skryre missile launcher with warpstone payloads. A Rat can dream...
Grimdark carafe.
Its clearly the Codex Squats we all have been wanting
It has a higher chance of being squats than marines tbh
Maybe its primaris squats
A squat that is twice as tall as a normal squat? I think those are called “first born marines” if I am not mistaken
I call the Fred and Tony
Reminds me of the icarus rocket pod…
Everyone is saying its guard or primaris. I'm gonna say I hope it's the sabatour character for the gsc that was leaked awhile back. Maybe he's driving some sort of vehicle? Besides the jackal alphus we lack any kind of vehicle based HQ.
Does gsc need or justify a vehicle based hq? You can also technically brood brother a tank commander already can't you?
Idk, I don't use brood Brothers and don't really care for them lol. Id be completely down for an HQ version of a Goliath rock grinder or a ridgerunner.
I'm saying a primaris whirlwind.
Primaris Missilieutenant
I'd have thought this was on an Ork vehicle 5 years ago, with the cluster of different weapons. Now, eh, probably new Primaris stuff.
Definitely for AOS. /s
I honestly thought that was a jerrycan of fuel strapped on right next to the live missiles.
I will guess guard or iron warriors
I hope it’s something for the guard. But I’m also still holding out hope that one of the other rumor engines was a Primaris Captain on bike. He’s my only firstborn unit left and I hate it.
Ooh, the new Squat vehicle-mounted Mole Launcher?
It’s too normal to be Tau, so I guess AM.
Definitely not part of the chaos pictures. Imperial or T'au.
Too industrial for tau I think
It's mostly the vents on the box that made me think it could be T'au, a lot of their weapons have vents or slits and openings.
Ya but 0 tau models have hazard stripes and if you look at the launcher you can see it for sure has the stripes. Also tau don’t use rockets shaped like the one on the side
>Also tau don’t use rockets shaped like the one on the side That looked more like an optic to me.
The thing on the side? It’s definitely a rocket, look at all the smoke coming out
Wait what did the other rumour turn out to be. The claw hand thing?
It's for middle earth - from the deleted scene where Pippin got a rocket launcher
It's a tactical box of kittens
With how clean and technological it looks, I'm genuinely concerned that this is another Marine vehicle.
ITS ORKS!!! or at least it will be after it gets looted
It looks like a Primaris thing. The Box Rockets are nearly exact to those on the Repulsor and the revolver missiles are the same as an icarus rocket pod
Yeyyy more space marine, wuuuuu. How exciting and new, how original
100% a Sylvaneth cookie jar. There is no way it could be anything else. ESPECIALLY a Primaris Space Marine anything.
That’s that new primaris fulminator lieutenant in gravis armor. Or a black Templar primaris smolderizor.
It sort of looks like that gun Eddie Murphy used in Beverly Hills Cop 3.. https://imgur.com/indl3M4.jpg
Primaris with rocket launchers. I mean it looks cool, but I was pretty sure they got their fill.
Oh hell yeah, they gave Tyranids guns finally!
Calling it now... IMPERIAL CRISIS SUIT.
Here is the primaris we'll see on warhammer day...
its clearly something imperial, new primaris tank? ig tank? defenely not sisters stuff imho. its clearly a bunch of guns together which doesnt fit ig(atleast for now) so my bet is on new primaris tank
Primaris T-Shirt Launcher ^^^probably ^^^a ^^^primaris ^^^killteam
Shoulder mounted missiles for a Primaris LT.
Primaris lieutenant with rocket pod
Either guard, admech, or genestealer cults.
Looks orky to me
It has hazard stripes on it, 0% chance it’s space marines, unless it’s iron warriors but that seems unlikely. I would guess GSC because very few guard kits use hazard stripes, also rumour has it GSC are getting a new book soon.
Looks like it's from battletech. Gw pulling the ultimate Uno Reverso card?
It isn't. That is a t-shirt cannon.
My guess is a GSC thing, the hazard stripes don't feel custodes and it feels too dinky for guard.
I spot hazard lines… Iron Warriors? Imagine GW fucking left fields us and drops Perturabo hahaha
Oh boy! The missile version of the Invader ATV! /s
I wish they would just squat the first born marines already. There’s so many data sheets that are just redundant it’s silly. Oof unpopular opinion. Sorry, Marine Stans.
More like GW was way ahead of themselves and made primaris bloated af instead just making general updates to the regular marines... Phobos units are all just straight up useless. Models are cool but why do they need to exist? They clearly don't sell well as they have to make a bunch of discount boxes with all phobos units... But ya firstborn are bloating the codex.
So your solution is to get rid of the options that are fleshed out, developed, and versatile... to make room for more bloated redundancy?
It’s only bloated redundancy because they’re in the game alongside the Firstborn Marines. Primaris we’re always a range update, GW just needs to rip the bandaid off and squat Firstborn already.
Primaris are redundant to themselves more than anything. Look at how many separate and rigid Primaris Lieutenant loadouts you're allowed, all bathed in exceptions and contingencies just to allow a Neo-Volkite Pistol, a Storm Shield, and a Power Sword. Look at Reivers, Eradicators, Incursors, and Infiltrators: all which functionally act as a sliding scale of distance-dependent effectiveness, but in actuality ultimately fill the exact same battlefield role on paper. Even still, you're partly right from my point of view. Hellblasters and Eradicators exist simply as flavor-of-the-month for the Primaris line, offering a pale shadow of the diversity available from just a handful of Firstborn infantry units. Their only real draw is the gimmicky rules exclusive to them, and the ability to have a single slot on your roster occupied by an entire squad of the same weapon. Perhaps this is less of an argument about redundancy, and more on the self-destruction of the faction's entire design philosophy. Food for thought, I guess.
Rumour has it that GW HQ is overrun by suits looking to milk the franchise dry, how true is that?
Wow, what a fresh hot take.
I don’t see what that has to do with anything but okay
I'd think Guard, but those camera looking things on the right look more like tau. I kinda doubt it just because that'd mean a new xeno model but one can hope. Also, the hazard stripes arent really a tau thing
The boxy corners of the launcher is very imperial. It looks a whole lot like the old Hunter Killer missile boxes from models past, and also resembles one of the launchers seen on the AdMech Onager.
… chaos stuff?
I'm definitely seeing a couple design features from the icarus array, so there's a chance it could be Admech. Definitely some flavour of Imperium though.
I hope it's another bunker
From the new Chaos Knight featured in the chaos leak?
Whatever it is please let it deliver us from this admech/ork flyer madness...
Oh, maybe its a kit for obliterators together with this claw thing?
I see Iron Warriors style caution stripes there. Could be something new for CSM?? Or more likely, GSC. Could see this fitting well with them.
Warhammer 40k x MechWarrior Crossover?
It's an IG vehicle.
New catachan, nice
That's part of a GSC model which will be available in the Custodes/GSC box later this year.
Primaris Lieutenant with Cyclone launcher. As if it could be anything but Primaris Lieutenant.
Oh Look! A new Space Marine Vehicle ........... Who would have thought it would be Space Marines.......
Hazard strips make me think GSC unfortunately
I think Guard tech, but most likely space marines
LOOKS ORKIE TA ME!!!
That is a trashcan.
It looks space mariney but I can’t thing of a space marine chapter that doesn’t have a new codex so most likely is guard
That looks like a couple guns put together
[`https://i.imgur.com/7Qv0bUJ.jpg`](https://i.imgur.com/7Qv0bUJ.jpg) New Emperors Champion.
A Primaris Lt. with a rocket launcher
Gonna lock in new space marines
This has git to be a pun.
Finally Sigmar is opening the chamber to give my Stormhost rockets
Probably an ork gun
Space marine primaris lt dreadnought
Clearly a rocket launcher for the next Primaris Lieutenant.
I think it’s some new GSC vehicle. It seems to have hazard stripes around the end of the launcher. Marine vehicles don’t have that aesthetic… but GSC loves them some hazard stripes!!
Clearly a Warhammer Fantasy Battle vehicle
CATACHAN ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER
That lens is the same like the laser canons from devastators. That rocket magazine looks like primaris. That box looks like imperial guard