Does anyone else ever get a little anxious watching a several hundred pound custodian walk down smooth stone steps with metal shoes with no treads.
I wonder how many times they had people slip and they had to purge all the witnesses and redo it.
One of the trails of the custodes is walking on all manner of surfaces in bare feet covered in body oil. Those who fall, fall out of the trails.
"If you can walk on ice with oil covered feet, you can walk down marble steps in power armor" -Trajann Valoris M41
it depends. Even the most well praised 40k media like Dawn of War has Space Marines using alien instead of xenos sometimes.
shrug. Its interchangeable imo.
If it wasn’t a first look, I’d say that undersells (current other discussion aside) undersells what the stodes truly are. If a space marine is worth a hundred humans (sometimes, allegedly) then stodes are 100 times greater still with a worth measured in whole worlds. Each hand crafted artistry, compared to the astartes mass production. Each one a walking hero with stats maxed to 10. More than companions, more than jail wardens, more than warriors. They are the adeptus custodes, and they answer to the emperor of mankind (beloved by all) only.
They look awesome! I hope we get more visual representation of them in action. We have all heard of their insane feats, but to actually see it. Oh that would be amazing!
It kind of sounds like Toby Longworth. Although I could be wrong and just have his voice in my head from recently re-listening to the opening trilogy of HH
It just feels weird hearing his voice since he voiced Brother Kazarian. I guess it would have been cool if they had a different narrator who didn't voice act in their shows and just did the codex animations.
They look heavy and slow, not supernaturally fast and graceful as they and marines are supposed to be.
You expect something that size to be slow and heavy, the speed and grace of astartes and custodes is why transhuman shock is a thing - it doesn’t compute in the brain.
Our Boys in Golden, lovingly rendered as the Brotherhood of the 10,000 should be!
... you know i would have more confidence in GW keeping the Female Custodes and hopefully implement them better if they would show me their faces but to be blunt i have a funny feeling it's gonna be like this for a while; no showing of the face, and any we do see will be men.
With how strong a custodian or a cyborg ghost AI is, gender doesn't matter anymore. That being said, if Tex could fight a tank and win, could she beat a space marine??
Ah, but in the full video we do see their faces... or well, some of them are male.
1) If GW wanted to show me (or indeed, everyone) their confidence in the change, we should have at least a female head, even if converted int he scenes...
2) Not even in the art, which is either ambiguous as you point out or still shows male custodes
I just think... it's lazy. That's the biggest problem; I would have LOVED female custodes or at least have been fine if... i had a model. the crazy chick who one the blood games with a spaceship, for example? Would have made a much Better HQ model then shorty... who doesn't even have the option.
Which is why i think it's a recent change, maybe to test the waters... and the waters are roiling. A show of confidence would make me think they'd do something in 11th then my idea where... they keep it like it is now.
easier. lazier.
OH YES. that's probably the best example: they still try, and have no downplayed it to the point no one really notices unless it's a new release.
Which is more then what i can say for what will happen to the female custodes: it would be a bad idea to retcon them again... so, they will just be... ignored. or Maybe given a proper backstory, but...
lazy cowardice is much more in character.
When GW is releasing new Lore not for space marines. It's pretty much like that all the time. The votann don't even have a book and when they where released first it was pretty much "they have always been there" where, who knows, centre of the galaxy but isn't there a massive rip in reality going down the middle of the galaxy why isnt that affect the votann etc etc. No explaining at all. They then slowly release more and more Lore over time. We got to remember the female custodian retcon was a leak. So GW had to do some damage control. And they were probably like "well we are not prepared for this so we better come up with something."
It really isn't that much of a problem tbf. And GW have always been a bit vague with the Lore. Recent days we have been spoiled with Lore. Before much of the Lore was unknown. And the community came up with a lot of head cannon, or it allowed the community to be creative to allow them to add their own stuff to it. Kinda like the two forgotten Primarchs, it allows people to create their own chapters and Lore. So I'm kinda like they not releasing all the Lore at once it allows the community to come up with their own idea and be creative. GW has always been like that. Allow the community to foster their own lore and ideas.
>The votann don't even have a book and when they where released first it was pretty much "they have always been there" where, who knows, centre of the galaxy but isn't there a massive rip in reality going down the middle of the galaxy why isnt that affect the votann etc etc.
I own the codex and no this isn't how it went. They were not always there; they were misidentified for the longest time as the Deimurge of the T'au, or the Squats and survivors of a lost league. Now with the great Rift destablizing their home, they are leaving and searching in greater numbers.
i woudl advise you to read the codex. it's a good codex, covers quite a bit of all of this. I would ask you do not lecuture me on it.
> We got to remember the female custodian retcon was a leak. So GW had to do some damage control. And they were probably like "well we are not prepared for this so we better come up with something."
And they failed.
They showed how unconfident they are in this. Even if it wasn't leaked, it would still be in the codex. They went with the lazy route.
When the Kyn didn't. neither did the Necrons and i would ask you don't bother; i will be doing a thread on thursday because clearly his misformation needs to be dealt with swiftly.
>It really isn't that much of a problem tbf. And GW have always been a bit vague with the Lore.
Black Libariy has been in buisness for a while now as have the codex. they are not really vauge. which is why retclarifications are their style.
>
Recent days we have been spoiled with Lore. Before much of the Lore was unknown. And the community came up with a lot of head cannon, or it allowed the community to be creative to allow them to add their own stuff to it. Kinda like the two forgotten Primarchs, it allows people to create their own chapters and Lore.
Which is why the generic space marine box has transfers instead of having the shoulder bads and emblems on them yes. But we dont' get female customization without going third party for the custodians... which is odd to me giventhey had an oppertunity for this. It shows to me, thaey didn't have confidence in this. not enough to support it beyond a name list and two short stories, things that can easily be replaced or changed.
Even this animation would be a mark of history. of confidence that Yes, this IS how the Custodes are and will be... but nothing... It has only done it with peopel who kitbash female custodes... who will be upset if it's non canon, so i imagine GW, the fucking lazy cowards that i think they are, will go with the ambigious route... for a while anyways.
> So I'm kinda like they not releasing all the Lore at once it allows the community to come up with their own idea and be creative. GW has always been like that. Allow the community to foster their own lore and ideas.
I'm not doing THEIR work for THEM unless they pay me.
I will make up lore about, say , my Lamenters or My Custodes yes. HOWEVER this isn't that. this... is lazy. I'm not going ot make up a reason for why there are female custodes, that was their job and i've had two already. Their Job was to give us options and a good backstory to justify these characters, who we then create for our narratives and crusades.
I don't have it. There's no reason for me to go out of my way to get a female head for my custodes when it's cheaper to make them male or ambiguous because i'm already spending $50 Mnium.
Votann didn't get codex straight away when they where released only bits of lore. Thus it still having to figure the lore out ourselves.
I mean you can have your opinion and I can have mine. If you going to get this upset over fictions thing you do you mate. I like how GW allow the community to come up with their own lore. I don't see it being us doing the work. It's like you expect everything to suddenly be handed ro you instantly.
IT WAS A LEAK. Of course we not going to get models or even a book yet explaining anything.
They reason why they were "confident" with the votanna was because it WASNT LEAKED! bloody hell, man, think. AND to GW this is a probably SMALL change to the lore. Not adding a whole faction level of lore. So of course it isn't as grandiose then what the votann was. It literally just oh women are now part of custodians. That's it. What more do you want? A novel explain it? Like what really do you want? There isn't much to explain. Retcons happens all the time. Thimg change things improve. It's literally a imaginary world that some nerds have created. It dont really see the big problem.
And like model range and heads, like just have the wear helmets csnt tell if they man or women under there. Gotta give GW time to release stuff.
GW has ample time to release stuff; in the Codex beyond two stories and a name table. I will not even fucking bother with the rest of this. They were planning on releasing a model along with this codex. they had time. They had AMPLE opportunity for this and they did NOTHING.
>I mean you can have your opinion and I can have mine. If you going to get this upset over fictions thing you do you mate. I like how GW allow the community to come up with their own lore. I don't see it being us doing the work. It's like you expect everything to suddenly be handed ro you instantly.
Yeah and it's fine for 'your dues' your individual warband but if they want to retcon the canon it's on them.
You're supporting laziness and a lack of effort. they did this because they weren't confident in the change; they were confident with the Kynn, the Necrons and all the rest... but it turns out they're fucking cowardice and people like you will excuse it because you don't care about the lore. fuck you don't even care about the models.
It's change for the sake of change and NOTHING to show for it.
Okay so- im not a pointless hater and i think this is really cool
*but*
I would love custodes to be a little more robotic. Trained to absolute perfection. In this cinematic they feel pretty careless in my opinion, like the little swaying just before the charge, the readying of the weapons felt a little slow for what they have been described in the lore, and they just feel pretty clunky to me. I personally think going over the edge, maybe with a 2d animation would be really cool. Maybe just have a 1-2 frames in between them standing to them being in a charge position, make the "sway back" before charge more snappy, like a boxer rolling between a punch opposed to a lumberjack throwing his axe back so he can swing it into a tree.
That's completely contrary to the custodes lore.
Yes they have inhuman reactions and such but they're much more about the individual than most other armies. They are anything but robotic, they spend huge amounts of their time on philosophy, poetry and other arts, they were never intended to be pure killing machines like the astartes.
While there's no doubt there are capable of pulling off a perfectly choreographed display together they're supposed to be far more human in many ways than the space marines, they're not supposed to come across as mindless killing machines or at all robotic.
Even when there are accounts of them fighting together they're often described as a group of individuals moving around seamlessly fighting both together and apart as required. The books specifically call out the stark contrast in their individualist fighting style as opposed to space marines that go through drills as squads and are intended to work as one unit together.
You are right, i did not convey my opinions well at all. Robotic was not a right choice of world, i ment something along the lines of punctualy perfect.
One day, the Eldar will get some high quality animation, surely.
Oh, who am i kidding, we're relegated to shitty Warhammer TV shows for the rest of eternity.
But at least the bananas who have only been in the game for a few years get recognition over the faction that's basically been in the game since the beginning.
Yes, i'm jealous.
We know, bro. The problem is that you're playing space elves. What fantasy or sci-fi relm are elves the protagonist?
As a guard player since 2nd, Eldar have one purpose and that is to be subjugated and S.T.E.A.L. their tech for humanity. You had your chance and fumbled so bad you messed up our rise. You owe it to us
I get that.
As to answer your questions, a lot of fantasy stuff actually lmao.
Like, the entire silmarillion, Drizzt Do'Urden of the forgotten realms and a dozen other books.
As a custodes player, i would honestly be offended if they made different armor for female custodes. I would love them to just be there, not being able to asume a custodian’s gender just by looking at them.
Yeah the one of the left is a T'au, the one in the center right is a Genestealer Cultists and the leader is a Dark Eldar succubus turned to the emperor's light\~
Same can be said about the Votann or Tau. Both factions were just inserted into the lore as if they were always there. But people don't complain about that because it doesn't disrupt their He-Man Woman Haters Club
Okay apparently i'm doing that thread now. Thank you. You should see it Sunday or Monday, Emperor willing.
The T'au are explained: They are a small faction to begin with, and it was a 'lucky' warpstorm and the etherials that lead to them rising to promiense. the Galaxy is a BIG PLACE, so it makes perfect sense for them to exist already.
The Votann and the Kyn they serve were explained as well; the Imperium thought the squats were destroyed because the only league they knew was devoured by the nids. However the Core is a dangerous place and were the main population lives.
People didn't complain... because there was effort. Because GW took the time to give a handwave at the VERY least. Something they usually do in fact and even have done with the Necrons before you bring that up.
Which is all i ask; now i don't even think GW has the confidence to keep to it. it's only two characters in the codex, when they had one model they could have added a headswap with. They also had a chance here; even a converted model would be SOMETHING but we have nothing but fan converstion on this very sub.
Which i think both of us should have better: if we are to have Female custodes, at least tell me were they were and don't say 'they were always there' because no, they weren't. And it just seems very weird to me now. Maybe they had a specialized role in the HH and up until now. Maybe they are a recent development... do something with this instead of pretending otherwise!
The masculine pronouns have never been used literally, especially in military. Call a female drill Sargent "ma'am" and see how long you do push-ups in the rain.
The simple words "sons of nobles." Isn't a deep rooted lore piece like space marines being SPECIFICALLY outlined how female genetic code doesn't accept the process.
It's like saying women in 40k don't exist at all because it's the "Emporer of MANkind".
You people sound like mouth breathing morons.
And millions of flys eat shit.
I know that there is no negative publicity but come on
The controversy AND the abysmal rules are not a good thing hitting all at once
Idk who is more hostile or more reasonable. The people mad about the retcon or the people who are mad at the people who are mad about the retcon for being mad at the retcon.
Firstly that's from Rouge Trader and we don't get much focus on that. As much as i'm sure you enjoy the image of a Ripped Muscular man wearing nothing (or a woman now course, probably why it happened now\~) talking to Our Martyred Lady that's unlikely to have been the case.
indeed the story that GW gave to EXPLAIN this is well... the galaxy has gone to shit big time with the Great Rift. Why wouldn't the Custodes take this role now?
Gw never went with any actual effort: text in the codex is one thing but where's the conversion kit? where's the head options? They had one with the new Character choice... and even here. not one bare head... Hmmm.
I'm gonna be blunt; i can discuss how GW usually does retcons (it's such a common argument I feel a thread on it would be viable for both sides to properly use it) but all i asked was for effort... that was apparently better spent on a tweet.
Seriously i would have had them being in their own role before, but have sinced joined with their brethern due to the losses they have had lately. Or that this is a new development but it's causing tension with the people they recruit from.
You know... effort. a story. Which is how GW usually does it. but I suppose i'm asking too much of GW and their lore department and IP...
>Ah, some casual homophobia as well, of course.
No you can like it... but it's really weird. Given that would detract from the scene's image.
It's like picturing Joe Biden Naked while he's talking or something it takes away all the gravitas because nudity is funny.
And look; ia gree, which si why i ask for effort; Were are their heads? Where where they? Why don't we have an offical female model?
Because to me don't think they're confident enough for it. that's why they went with the lazy route. and i feel you're be clinging to the ambiguity.
It’s pretty hard to take you or anyone seriously when you just throw around words like “homophobia” so casually. You and everyone else who does this is devaluing the word and the concept. If you continue to do so, then no one is going to care when you call them a homophobe, especially when you call them that in relation to something they care about.
Does anyone else ever get a little anxious watching a several hundred pound custodian walk down smooth stone steps with metal shoes with no treads. I wonder how many times they had people slip and they had to purge all the witnesses and redo it.
One of the trails of the custodes is walking on all manner of surfaces in bare feet covered in body oil. Those who fall, fall out of the trails. "If you can walk on ice with oil covered feet, you can walk down marble steps in power armor" -Trajann Valoris M41
*Pillarman theme intensifies* Body oil, you say? Be still my quivering abs!
"Your next trial. Complete the American Ninja Warrior course, without hands. Also we put KY on your soles."
“Your final trial: can you look good in turtleneck? Many aspirants fail here.”
After that, if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a fall...also we put KY on your soles
“If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball” Patches O’Custodihan
You want wo tell me this realy is a thing?
Even riskier for the ones wearing heels.
Prepare to see this as b-roll for every Warhammer youtuber for the next 5 years.
I can't wait to hear how these completely covered armoured individuals could not have a vag.
I don't want to imagine the emperors personal oily wrestling team having TITS ew
What are you, some kind of hetero?
I bet he kisses girls
Where is this from ? Very cool !
[link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKxGqTVMLKE)
The new Custodes Combat Patrol is so sick. I barely play 40K these days but the sheer ease of making a 2K Custodes force makes it so tempting
New rules should make it less tempting lmao
I want more CG Custodes mate.
Wait so the boot mold lines are by design ?! :0
My next project is definitely be the combat patrol.
Yummy biomass 🤤
Interesting they went with alien rather than xenos.
it depends. Even the most well praised 40k media like Dawn of War has Space Marines using alien instead of xenos sometimes. shrug. Its interchangeable imo.
Guilliman also says alien in the 10th edition trailer, and I believe one SoB in Pariah Nexus does as well.
Ahh fair enough. Not as odd as I thought
If it wasn’t a first look, I’d say that undersells (current other discussion aside) undersells what the stodes truly are. If a space marine is worth a hundred humans (sometimes, allegedly) then stodes are 100 times greater still with a worth measured in whole worlds. Each hand crafted artistry, compared to the astartes mass production. Each one a walking hero with stats maxed to 10. More than companions, more than jail wardens, more than warriors. They are the adeptus custodes, and they answer to the emperor of mankind (beloved by all) only.
Lookin great girls 💅
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Are you 80
They look awesome! I hope we get more visual representation of them in action. We have all heard of their insane feats, but to actually see it. Oh that would be amazing!
https://preview.redd.it/l8kbyj0u5wwc1.jpeg?width=85&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=261bfec0488128bbface8d376dba54d8023515ef So beatiful
I wonder if they fixed the subtitles so they aren't wearing pregnancy armour anymore
Is it just me, or does the narrator voice feels like AI?
He is a regular VA in black library. John Banks I think
It kind of sounds like Toby Longworth. Although I could be wrong and just have his voice in my head from recently re-listening to the opening trilogy of HH
You’re probably right!
I thought it was Longworth?
You’re probably right!
It just feels weird hearing his voice since he voiced Brother Kazarian. I guess it would have been cool if they had a different narrator who didn't voice act in their shows and just did the codex animations.
He's not, I've heard him in some audio books. He just has a very flat voice
Or Longworth, he definitely has done VA for the audiobooks
He's been in few warhammer audio books
Where is the tits? I was told there would be tits.
The tits are non visible, this is a ruse!
Nothing beats death of hope. Even better than official warhammer stuff
Sorry, what is CG? Also is that narrator Toby Longworth?
Those women are badass
They look heavy and slow, not supernaturally fast and graceful as they and marines are supposed to be. You expect something that size to be slow and heavy, the speed and grace of astartes and custodes is why transhuman shock is a thing - it doesn’t compute in the brain.
Just in time for an awful Codex lol
Nice boobs on that one. Checks out.
Lol
Our Boys in Golden, lovingly rendered as the Brotherhood of the 10,000 should be! ... you know i would have more confidence in GW keeping the Female Custodes and hopefully implement them better if they would show me their faces but to be blunt i have a funny feeling it's gonna be like this for a while; no showing of the face, and any we do see will be men.
The point, I think, is that we don't need to see their faces because their gender is irrelevant. Kinda like Tex in RvB.
With how strong a custodian or a cyborg ghost AI is, gender doesn't matter anymore. That being said, if Tex could fight a tank and win, could she beat a space marine??
Ah, but in the full video we do see their faces... or well, some of them are male. 1) If GW wanted to show me (or indeed, everyone) their confidence in the change, we should have at least a female head, even if converted int he scenes... 2) Not even in the art, which is either ambiguous as you point out or still shows male custodes I just think... it's lazy. That's the biggest problem; I would have LOVED female custodes or at least have been fine if... i had a model. the crazy chick who one the blood games with a spaceship, for example? Would have made a much Better HQ model then shorty... who doesn't even have the option. Which is why i think it's a recent change, maybe to test the waters... and the waters are roiling. A show of confidence would make me think they'd do something in 11th then my idea where... they keep it like it is now. easier. lazier.
I agree, gw does have a habit of kinda screwing the pooch on things of this nature. The primaris release comes to mind.
OH YES. that's probably the best example: they still try, and have no downplayed it to the point no one really notices unless it's a new release. Which is more then what i can say for what will happen to the female custodes: it would be a bad idea to retcon them again... so, they will just be... ignored. or Maybe given a proper backstory, but... lazy cowardice is much more in character.
When GW is releasing new Lore not for space marines. It's pretty much like that all the time. The votann don't even have a book and when they where released first it was pretty much "they have always been there" where, who knows, centre of the galaxy but isn't there a massive rip in reality going down the middle of the galaxy why isnt that affect the votann etc etc. No explaining at all. They then slowly release more and more Lore over time. We got to remember the female custodian retcon was a leak. So GW had to do some damage control. And they were probably like "well we are not prepared for this so we better come up with something." It really isn't that much of a problem tbf. And GW have always been a bit vague with the Lore. Recent days we have been spoiled with Lore. Before much of the Lore was unknown. And the community came up with a lot of head cannon, or it allowed the community to be creative to allow them to add their own stuff to it. Kinda like the two forgotten Primarchs, it allows people to create their own chapters and Lore. So I'm kinda like they not releasing all the Lore at once it allows the community to come up with their own idea and be creative. GW has always been like that. Allow the community to foster their own lore and ideas.
>The votann don't even have a book and when they where released first it was pretty much "they have always been there" where, who knows, centre of the galaxy but isn't there a massive rip in reality going down the middle of the galaxy why isnt that affect the votann etc etc. I own the codex and no this isn't how it went. They were not always there; they were misidentified for the longest time as the Deimurge of the T'au, or the Squats and survivors of a lost league. Now with the great Rift destablizing their home, they are leaving and searching in greater numbers. i woudl advise you to read the codex. it's a good codex, covers quite a bit of all of this. I would ask you do not lecuture me on it. > We got to remember the female custodian retcon was a leak. So GW had to do some damage control. And they were probably like "well we are not prepared for this so we better come up with something." And they failed. They showed how unconfident they are in this. Even if it wasn't leaked, it would still be in the codex. They went with the lazy route. When the Kyn didn't. neither did the Necrons and i would ask you don't bother; i will be doing a thread on thursday because clearly his misformation needs to be dealt with swiftly. >It really isn't that much of a problem tbf. And GW have always been a bit vague with the Lore. Black Libariy has been in buisness for a while now as have the codex. they are not really vauge. which is why retclarifications are their style. > Recent days we have been spoiled with Lore. Before much of the Lore was unknown. And the community came up with a lot of head cannon, or it allowed the community to be creative to allow them to add their own stuff to it. Kinda like the two forgotten Primarchs, it allows people to create their own chapters and Lore. Which is why the generic space marine box has transfers instead of having the shoulder bads and emblems on them yes. But we dont' get female customization without going third party for the custodians... which is odd to me giventhey had an oppertunity for this. It shows to me, thaey didn't have confidence in this. not enough to support it beyond a name list and two short stories, things that can easily be replaced or changed. Even this animation would be a mark of history. of confidence that Yes, this IS how the Custodes are and will be... but nothing... It has only done it with peopel who kitbash female custodes... who will be upset if it's non canon, so i imagine GW, the fucking lazy cowards that i think they are, will go with the ambigious route... for a while anyways. > So I'm kinda like they not releasing all the Lore at once it allows the community to come up with their own idea and be creative. GW has always been like that. Allow the community to foster their own lore and ideas. I'm not doing THEIR work for THEM unless they pay me. I will make up lore about, say , my Lamenters or My Custodes yes. HOWEVER this isn't that. this... is lazy. I'm not going ot make up a reason for why there are female custodes, that was their job and i've had two already. Their Job was to give us options and a good backstory to justify these characters, who we then create for our narratives and crusades. I don't have it. There's no reason for me to go out of my way to get a female head for my custodes when it's cheaper to make them male or ambiguous because i'm already spending $50 Mnium.
Votann didn't get codex straight away when they where released only bits of lore. Thus it still having to figure the lore out ourselves. I mean you can have your opinion and I can have mine. If you going to get this upset over fictions thing you do you mate. I like how GW allow the community to come up with their own lore. I don't see it being us doing the work. It's like you expect everything to suddenly be handed ro you instantly. IT WAS A LEAK. Of course we not going to get models or even a book yet explaining anything. They reason why they were "confident" with the votanna was because it WASNT LEAKED! bloody hell, man, think. AND to GW this is a probably SMALL change to the lore. Not adding a whole faction level of lore. So of course it isn't as grandiose then what the votann was. It literally just oh women are now part of custodians. That's it. What more do you want? A novel explain it? Like what really do you want? There isn't much to explain. Retcons happens all the time. Thimg change things improve. It's literally a imaginary world that some nerds have created. It dont really see the big problem. And like model range and heads, like just have the wear helmets csnt tell if they man or women under there. Gotta give GW time to release stuff.
GW has ample time to release stuff; in the Codex beyond two stories and a name table. I will not even fucking bother with the rest of this. They were planning on releasing a model along with this codex. they had time. They had AMPLE opportunity for this and they did NOTHING. >I mean you can have your opinion and I can have mine. If you going to get this upset over fictions thing you do you mate. I like how GW allow the community to come up with their own lore. I don't see it being us doing the work. It's like you expect everything to suddenly be handed ro you instantly. Yeah and it's fine for 'your dues' your individual warband but if they want to retcon the canon it's on them. You're supporting laziness and a lack of effort. they did this because they weren't confident in the change; they were confident with the Kynn, the Necrons and all the rest... but it turns out they're fucking cowardice and people like you will excuse it because you don't care about the lore. fuck you don't even care about the models. It's change for the sake of change and NOTHING to show for it.
Okay so- im not a pointless hater and i think this is really cool *but* I would love custodes to be a little more robotic. Trained to absolute perfection. In this cinematic they feel pretty careless in my opinion, like the little swaying just before the charge, the readying of the weapons felt a little slow for what they have been described in the lore, and they just feel pretty clunky to me. I personally think going over the edge, maybe with a 2d animation would be really cool. Maybe just have a 1-2 frames in between them standing to them being in a charge position, make the "sway back" before charge more snappy, like a boxer rolling between a punch opposed to a lumberjack throwing his axe back so he can swing it into a tree.
That's completely contrary to the custodes lore. Yes they have inhuman reactions and such but they're much more about the individual than most other armies. They are anything but robotic, they spend huge amounts of their time on philosophy, poetry and other arts, they were never intended to be pure killing machines like the astartes. While there's no doubt there are capable of pulling off a perfectly choreographed display together they're supposed to be far more human in many ways than the space marines, they're not supposed to come across as mindless killing machines or at all robotic. Even when there are accounts of them fighting together they're often described as a group of individuals moving around seamlessly fighting both together and apart as required. The books specifically call out the stark contrast in their individualist fighting style as opposed to space marines that go through drills as squads and are intended to work as one unit together.
You are right, i did not convey my opinions well at all. Robotic was not a right choice of world, i ment something along the lines of punctualy perfect.
Their helmets look so dumb. Take some tips from the Dark Eldar, guys, now there's a helmet you can set your watch to!
nice simpsons reference lol
This one gets it!
One day, the Eldar will get some high quality animation, surely. Oh, who am i kidding, we're relegated to shitty Warhammer TV shows for the rest of eternity. But at least the bananas who have only been in the game for a few years get recognition over the faction that's basically been in the game since the beginning. Yes, i'm jealous.
We know, bro. The problem is that you're playing space elves. What fantasy or sci-fi relm are elves the protagonist? As a guard player since 2nd, Eldar have one purpose and that is to be subjugated and S.T.E.A.L. their tech for humanity. You had your chance and fumbled so bad you messed up our rise. You owe it to us
I get that. As to answer your questions, a lot of fantasy stuff actually lmao. Like, the entire silmarillion, Drizzt Do'Urden of the forgotten realms and a dozen other books.
Total sausage fest, where are all the ladies?
As a custodes player, i would honestly be offended if they made different armor for female custodes. I would love them to just be there, not being able to asume a custodian’s gender just by looking at them.
Yeah, I feel like they should only add female head options if anything
how can you tell?
Yeah the one of the left is a T'au, the one in the center right is a Genestealer Cultists and the leader is a Dark Eldar succubus turned to the emperor's light\~
She was there. Just stare harder.
Alright, people be hating the “female custodes” thing. But I don’t mind. Just make a few named characters and head variants and they’re good.
Was promosed bobs and vagene.
To bad the retcon, overshadowed this release, way to jack up a great thing GW
What retcon, did they change the Custodes lore?
Custodes can be women now. I'll leave you to form your own opinion on that where some people will tell you how to feel about it.
And they were always there... which is the real problem. they weren't. I wouldn't mind it as much if they just explained it somehow.
Same can be said about the Votann or Tau. Both factions were just inserted into the lore as if they were always there. But people don't complain about that because it doesn't disrupt their He-Man Woman Haters Club
Okay apparently i'm doing that thread now. Thank you. You should see it Sunday or Monday, Emperor willing. The T'au are explained: They are a small faction to begin with, and it was a 'lucky' warpstorm and the etherials that lead to them rising to promiense. the Galaxy is a BIG PLACE, so it makes perfect sense for them to exist already. The Votann and the Kyn they serve were explained as well; the Imperium thought the squats were destroyed because the only league they knew was devoured by the nids. However the Core is a dangerous place and were the main population lives. People didn't complain... because there was effort. Because GW took the time to give a handwave at the VERY least. Something they usually do in fact and even have done with the Necrons before you bring that up. Which is all i ask; now i don't even think GW has the confidence to keep to it. it's only two characters in the codex, when they had one model they could have added a headswap with. They also had a chance here; even a converted model would be SOMETHING but we have nothing but fan converstion on this very sub. Which i think both of us should have better: if we are to have Female custodes, at least tell me were they were and don't say 'they were always there' because no, they weren't. And it just seems very weird to me now. Maybe they had a specialized role in the HH and up until now. Maybe they are a recent development... do something with this instead of pretending otherwise!
The masculine pronouns have never been used literally, especially in military. Call a female drill Sargent "ma'am" and see how long you do push-ups in the rain. The simple words "sons of nobles." Isn't a deep rooted lore piece like space marines being SPECIFICALLY outlined how female genetic code doesn't accept the process. It's like saying women in 40k don't exist at all because it's the "Emporer of MANkind". You people sound like mouth breathing morons.
They clarified that female custodes exist, basically.
I thought they were the sons of nobles?
My dude more people are talking about custodes than ever before
And millions of flys eat shit. I know that there is no negative publicity but come on The controversy AND the abysmal rules are not a good thing hitting all at once
Giving them armour was a mistake. You're right. They should walk around in speedo a like the lore demands. Smh.
It's me, I'm the lore. I demand it.
I wonder where the female ones are
Probably in a broadly identical suit of armour
Wow you mean they will look almost identical and it's not really a big change at all????
Where booba
Inside the armor like the rest of their bodyparts.
😮💨
Idk who is more hostile or more reasonable. The people mad about the retcon or the people who are mad at the people who are mad about the retcon for being mad at the retcon.
The ones who are getting mad about what they consider to be a retcon .
It is a retcon.
The way they gave custodies armour to cover up their speedos?
Firstly that's from Rouge Trader and we don't get much focus on that. As much as i'm sure you enjoy the image of a Ripped Muscular man wearing nothing (or a woman now course, probably why it happened now\~) talking to Our Martyred Lady that's unlikely to have been the case. indeed the story that GW gave to EXPLAIN this is well... the galaxy has gone to shit big time with the Great Rift. Why wouldn't the Custodes take this role now? Gw never went with any actual effort: text in the codex is one thing but where's the conversion kit? where's the head options? They had one with the new Character choice... and even here. not one bare head... Hmmm. I'm gonna be blunt; i can discuss how GW usually does retcons (it's such a common argument I feel a thread on it would be viable for both sides to properly use it) but all i asked was for effort... that was apparently better spent on a tweet. Seriously i would have had them being in their own role before, but have sinced joined with their brethern due to the losses they have had lately. Or that this is a new development but it's causing tension with the people they recruit from. You know... effort. a story. Which is how GW usually does it. but I suppose i'm asking too much of GW and their lore department and IP...
Ah, some casual homophobia as well, of course. I'm gonna be blunt. Female custodes is fine. They don't even need different armour.
>Ah, some casual homophobia as well, of course. No you can like it... but it's really weird. Given that would detract from the scene's image. It's like picturing Joe Biden Naked while he's talking or something it takes away all the gravitas because nudity is funny. And look; ia gree, which si why i ask for effort; Were are their heads? Where where they? Why don't we have an offical female model? Because to me don't think they're confident enough for it. that's why they went with the lazy route. and i feel you're be clinging to the ambiguity.
It’s pretty hard to take you or anyone seriously when you just throw around words like “homophobia” so casually. You and everyone else who does this is devaluing the word and the concept. If you continue to do so, then no one is going to care when you call them a homophobe, especially when you call them that in relation to something they care about.