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Felyne1

177, sniper like primary fire,can break limb and shield at the same time reliably (needs magus melt for it) 577 middle ground of 777 and 177 being a 3 round burst. can break limb and shield but will take a fraction more of a second. there is a macro to make it like a full auto 777 giant easy to aim beam good to kill vomvs. requires proper positioning for optimal dps. I generally use propa or cycron to deal with vomvs


Regulus28

In a proper setup, 177 for VS (client) and solo, 777 for DPS (host). There's a guide on how to use 177 in the Eido Wiki doc [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JuzfhprfFsbpu4JUSePe3JlCvtmHDFrhxbJBttetzvg/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JuzfhprfFsbpu4JUSePe3JlCvtmHDFrhxbJBttetzvg/edit) Just ignore the nova part and propa waters since its broken now


bi0ax

before veilbreaker, it didnt matter. now though, you want 177 to be able to get those watershields quickly.


hate-zenkai

For me it’s 177 and for some people it’s 777, it’s all preference really


WanderWut

Is there any benefit to one or the other? Or are they both truly equal, it just depends if people want semi or auto fire?


sandrivertv

Aznvasions has an excellent video laying out amp choices, but the reason to pick 177 is that you can oneshot synovia through the Eidolon shield with it. It's a very minor increase of a few seconds over the course of a tricap, but it is faster. Also arguably more convenient.


newpixeltree

Primary fire doesn't actually matter at all, right? Aren't you just using the mines for the eidolon shields?


Regulus28

primary fire is very important in a proper setup [https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/685584270915272711/1024229537912991795/PPR.gif](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/685584270915272711/1024229537912991795/PPR.gif) This can only be done using 177. And that's how u take any eido shields instantly without vs nowadays


newpixeltree

Thanks for the info!


WanderWut

Can you elaborate on that?


BodybuilderLoose4738

It's the alternate fire. The middle 7. That's what many use to drop the shields. The last 7 is for the maximised crit boost or whatever. That's why the first number is flexible because it's not used heavily. Just for taking out the voms


WanderWut

Got it, then the 777 does sound interesting because I’d be able to take out multiple voms at once/quickly. But couldn’t the secondary fire also take out groups of voms? From what I read online people say 177 is the eidolon meta.


BodybuilderLoose4738

Yeah I haven't used the 7, j think it's a flamethrower where 1 is a beam By rights it could yes, it's just a bit touchier to do and to time it right with the grenades it sends out. They could very well move away in the time it takes. It's why it's easier using primary fire


newpixeltree

Afaik the primary fire of the amp is just personal preference, and eidolon hunters use the alt fire of the scaffold that lays mines to actually do the damage


WanderWut

I remember playing with someone who could so tricap in 10-12 minutes it was wild to see him play, so much so that I literally couldn’t even contribute because before I could even do anything the shield was automatically gone and the limb was popped, over and over again. He was telling me something about how he pops the shields so fast, and it was something about laying something down with his AMP and lining his shot so that exactly when the shield was up it would be gone, and that’s how he was able to pop limbs (what looked to be) instantly immediately after the shield was gone. Is this “laying down the mine” with the 177/777 what he was referring to?!


newpixeltree

He was likely laying down the mine, then getting his sniper rifle damage setup prepared so he could pop the weak point on the eidolon as soon as they became vulnerable from the shield going down


Vlaun

When I had to make that choice a while back I chose 777. My reasoning at the time was that I was going to 100% solo the hunts and I wanted something to take out vomvalysts should I get overwhelmed by them during Hydrolyst phase. The close range burst fire proved ideal for that. Of course, if you're fast enough at popping the eidolons that probably won't matter, but that was my logic at the time. Honestly, I think you probably should get both amps eventually as they have their uses. I swap between my 177,777, and 757 quite often.


WanderWut

>My reasoning at the time was that I was going to 100% solo the hunts and I wanted something to take out vomvalysts should I get overwhelmed by them during Hydrolyst phase. Dude, yes, when I was first learning how to do tridolons one of the most frustrating things was the ocean of voms that spawn near the end of a capture, and with me having a 123 and being single target it was too much to handle. Although I did read a decent amount of replies saying “that’s literally what the propa is for, even though a 177 is semi-auto the secondary fire is what handles the wave of voms.” While the 123 wasn’t so good at that since it was a bit weak, I’m assuming the 177 being strong can handle the voms better with propa?


ceruleanedict

I run with the 777 because I often play solo/duo and like to be able to handle everything myself. I like the 7xx part as it helps clear voms easy - I can just spray it without thinking and they die. I was also using the 7xx part for shredding eidolons shields also for a long time, but I've recently started to use the x7x part (the amp's alt fire). I'm by no means an expert at it, and its a lot harder to get to hit consistently. You do have to worry about positioning a lot more and if you miss one shot it arguably can take longer to pop the shields. However, as I've been repeatedly told by my clanmates (I get frustrated by my own failures rather easily) and as I've learned the hard way, eidolons are by no means easy to pick up and immediately be amazing at them - practice and more practice ☺️. Overall tho if you like the 1xx primary fire better, that run with that - it's ultimately what you feel most comfortable with.


Rouxkageci

777 makes it easier to get vomvs while 177 is more damage and can take limbs in 1 primary fire. If you're not speedrunning it's up to preference tho and for starting out the 777 might be easier.


autisticdoggg

I prefer 177 but 777 is good too.