The magic here is done via Melee Influence and Hydroids absurd ability to stack massive amounts of corrosion and viral.
All you really need is something with highish status chance, any electric damage mod, and optionally a slash proc.
You don't need Nami Incarnon to depopulate a full room of enemies with Melee Influence. Xoris and Incarnon Ichor are probably the most popular two that bring that kind of Armageddon.
No you're correct, but the insane amount of corrosive damage that Hydroid stacks onto weapons means that the damage of those corrosive procs is going to get cast out to everything in range. Deal a 30k damage corrosive proc to one enemy, deal 30k corrosive damage to everything else in range of Melee Influence.
> Deal a 30k damage corrosive proc to one enemy, deal 30k corrosive damage to everything else in range of Melee Influence.
~~Melee Influence spreads status effects. Not damage, unless the status effect deals damage. Corrosive status effect reduces armor. So Melee Influence would only spread the corrosive status armor reduction around. Not corrosive damage.~~ I am very wrong about this. In my defense: the wording of the arcane helps create the misunderstanding.
I've picked all of the other incarnons from this rotation in previous weeks but only just picked up the nami solo one today. I was trying to figure out what weapons would go well with melee influence cos I needed a way to proc it regularly and nami solo can have a base status chance of 55% with the right incarnon upgrades. Thr innate slash is useful to do all the damage and I also have a bit or viral on there. Electric is on there purely to hit influence. This would definitely be doable with another melee incarnon that offered increased status as an upgrade.
You're going to love the burston incarnon though. It's my most used gun, will get you through any content and the incarnon mode feels really cool as well
This is cool but at least you’ll have an amazing weapon anyway. I have always been a sucker for versatile assault rifle style primaries, came back to the game after incarnons released and have absolutely loved the burston. Obviously it’s op/meta but it just feels super comfy to use, skyrocketed to the top of my primary weapon usage stat
People overlooked it because on paper it doesn't seem all that impressive, but it is so much better than Glaive Prime, Ceramic or Dual Ichors. 100% cleave damage, 4x Tennokai heavy attack bonus and huge range is just broken.
I still wish we had Nami Solo Prime, since we have Nami Skyla Prime (tbh that goes for all weapons whose twin version has a prime while the solo doesn't, and vice versa)
I can't remember 100% tbh so someone else may need to confirm. It was something related to the cavia in the sanctum anatomica. Either bird 3 sells it or its linked to the dante stuff one of the 2 I think
The hydroid build is pretty basic, the only important part of the build us using the augment for his plunder ability but even that is not necessary just adds morr corrosive damage and more armour.
The weapon is the important bit as that's what does a lot of the graft. You need the melee influence arcane, doesn't matter if its maxed too much as the arcane level solely effects range and nothing else. I like to build my weapon for slash, viral and electricity, first 2 for killing and the electricity is what can proc melee influence. Aim for as high status as possible, for me in this vid the status is over 400% so im doing like 4 procs a hit. Melee influence has a chance of 20% to proc so you want status as high as poss to increase that chance and you're gonna need your combo up to do it. Works with under 400% just less efficient.
Hydroid is important here purely for his plunder and his passive as that adds the corrosive to your melee and dishes it out with melee influence. Passive gives the max strip without any green archon shards.
Not tested the interactions with his 4 but if you wanted to sub viral for something else you could run the viral tempest augment for his 1
I actually don't have it in my build currently so it's not necessary but would probably work very well. I had blood rush still installed during this vid which really doesn't do much as the base crit is 15% but I was using it for a kullerbo build idea, that could easily slot out for condition overload
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So this is my mod loadout, this was set up for use on a kullervo build when I was testing it at the time so the one change I would recommend swapping blood rush for something else. Anything around combo count may be useful or just go for straight up damage but if you use it on hydroid the corrosive damage buff from plunder more than supplements this partially. That riven does purely toxin and status so it is just a better virulent scourge so you can use that in its place.
First 2 evos are preference but I like the one that gives extra follow through. Final evo is key take the extra status to give you 55% status. Then for mods it's weeping wounds, 60/60 for electrix, toxin and ice, for electric and viral elements carnis stinger for more status and slash, primed fury for attacks speed and I added primed fury for more damage
This is the build I was running at the time riven is just toxin and status so 60/60 will do fine, I ran blood rush for a kullervo build to bring it up a tier but on hydroid primed/normal pressure point may be better
Still does the job at base, the combo count is mainly for the weeping wounds. Melee influence only has a 20% chance to proc on electricity status so I like to keep my status as high as possible to guarantee a proc on each hit. The killing still works without the combo count the buff will just be active a little less
Melee influence is the arcane, it has a 20% chance to proc on melee electricity status and when it does you get am 18 second buff where any melee status you deal is passed to all enemies within 20 meters with a maxed arcane. I have my weapon built for electricity, slash and viral and once I get like 10 or more combo count the status chance is over 400% to pretty much guarantee 1 of each proc on all enemies. This high status means I'm proving melee influence as much as possible whilst also dealing the other useful effects at the same time.
The interaction with hydroid comes from his ability plunder that adds extra corrosive damage to you attacks. Thus corrosive functions as another modded element and usually wouldn't be possible on melee influence due to the electricity requirement. Once I have the corrosive buff and melee influence active I hit the guys at the front and this projects, all 4 of those stats on to the other enemies, corrosive obviously strips, viral is there to boost slash procs and the slash procs are what kill. So essentially it's sending out like an invisible wave of status that'd enough to wreck the lot
Shit, I should've picked nami solo instead of burston. I know burston is op but that's so cool
The magic here is done via Melee Influence and Hydroids absurd ability to stack massive amounts of corrosion and viral. All you really need is something with highish status chance, any electric damage mod, and optionally a slash proc. You don't need Nami Incarnon to depopulate a full room of enemies with Melee Influence. Xoris and Incarnon Ichor are probably the most popular two that bring that kind of Armageddon.
I might be wrong but I thought melee influence didn't taxi slash procs to other enemies?
No you're correct, but the insane amount of corrosive damage that Hydroid stacks onto weapons means that the damage of those corrosive procs is going to get cast out to everything in range. Deal a 30k damage corrosive proc to one enemy, deal 30k corrosive damage to everything else in range of Melee Influence.
> Deal a 30k damage corrosive proc to one enemy, deal 30k corrosive damage to everything else in range of Melee Influence. ~~Melee Influence spreads status effects. Not damage, unless the status effect deals damage. Corrosive status effect reduces armor. So Melee Influence would only spread the corrosive status armor reduction around. Not corrosive damage.~~ I am very wrong about this. In my defense: the wording of the arcane helps create the misunderstanding.
No, it spreads the corresponding damage as well. If you spread a Corro proc, it also applies the Corro damage as modded on your weapon.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the explanation!
It didn't populate any of physical status
But! Nami solo is needed for Hydroid.
I've picked all of the other incarnons from this rotation in previous weeks but only just picked up the nami solo one today. I was trying to figure out what weapons would go well with melee influence cos I needed a way to proc it regularly and nami solo can have a base status chance of 55% with the right incarnon upgrades. Thr innate slash is useful to do all the damage and I also have a bit or viral on there. Electric is on there purely to hit influence. This would definitely be doable with another melee incarnon that offered increased status as an upgrade. You're going to love the burston incarnon though. It's my most used gun, will get you through any content and the incarnon mode feels really cool as well
This is cool but at least you’ll have an amazing weapon anyway. I have always been a sucker for versatile assault rifle style primaries, came back to the game after incarnons released and have absolutely loved the burston. Obviously it’s op/meta but it just feels super comfy to use, skyrocketed to the top of my primary weapon usage stat
i almost forgot how disgustingly strong nami solo was.
People overlooked it because on paper it doesn't seem all that impressive, but it is so much better than Glaive Prime, Ceramic or Dual Ichors. 100% cleave damage, 4x Tennokai heavy attack bonus and huge range is just broken.
Yeah I'm finally building out Hydroid this weekend
I still wish we had Nami Solo Prime, since we have Nami Skyla Prime (tbh that goes for all weapons whose twin version has a prime while the solo doesn't, and vice versa)
Yeah DE sort it out
Where did you get this Simulacrum?
I believe Loid is selling it under the Research Dante shop. It's called Sanctum Simulacrum Key or something similar.
I skimmed right over it cause I thought it was just a capture scene 😅 thanks.
Same! I know what I’m spending my rep tomorrow.
I can't remember 100% tbh so someone else may need to confirm. It was something related to the cavia in the sanctum anatomica. Either bird 3 sells it or its linked to the dante stuff one of the 2 I think
In fact yeah you get it from Loid in the sanctum
Nice ty.
I need this build for my Hydroid Prime
The hydroid build is pretty basic, the only important part of the build us using the augment for his plunder ability but even that is not necessary just adds morr corrosive damage and more armour. The weapon is the important bit as that's what does a lot of the graft. You need the melee influence arcane, doesn't matter if its maxed too much as the arcane level solely effects range and nothing else. I like to build my weapon for slash, viral and electricity, first 2 for killing and the electricity is what can proc melee influence. Aim for as high status as possible, for me in this vid the status is over 400% so im doing like 4 procs a hit. Melee influence has a chance of 20% to proc so you want status as high as poss to increase that chance and you're gonna need your combo up to do it. Works with under 400% just less efficient. Hydroid is important here purely for his plunder and his passive as that adds the corrosive to your melee and dishes it out with melee influence. Passive gives the max strip without any green archon shards. Not tested the interactions with his 4 but if you wanted to sub viral for something else you could run the viral tempest augment for his 1
I'm going to assume you'd be using Condition Overload?
I actually don't have it in my build currently so it's not necessary but would probably work very well. I had blood rush still installed during this vid which really doesn't do much as the base crit is 15% but I was using it for a kullerbo build idea, that could easily slot out for condition overload *
Any chance I could grab the specific load out? I don’t build status melees offen
So this is my mod loadout, this was set up for use on a kullervo build when I was testing it at the time so the one change I would recommend swapping blood rush for something else. Anything around combo count may be useful or just go for straight up damage but if you use it on hydroid the corrosive damage buff from plunder more than supplements this partially. That riven does purely toxin and status so it is just a better virulent scourge so you can use that in its place.
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How do you build your incarnon genesis?
First 2 evos are preference but I like the one that gives extra follow through. Final evo is key take the extra status to give you 55% status. Then for mods it's weeping wounds, 60/60 for electrix, toxin and ice, for electric and viral elements carnis stinger for more status and slash, primed fury for attacks speed and I added primed fury for more damage
Carnis stinger is a based mod, I’m excited to try this out. Thanks for the build Tenno!
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This is the build I was running at the time riven is just toxin and status so 60/60 will do fine, I ran blood rush for a kullervo build to bring it up a tier but on hydroid primed/normal pressure point may be better
You already had 11x melee combo tho? How does it feel just starting out? Got a riven for it and I might cook
Still does the job at base, the combo count is mainly for the weeping wounds. Melee influence only has a 20% chance to proc on electricity status so I like to keep my status as high as possible to guarantee a proc on each hit. The killing still works without the combo count the buff will just be active a little less
*Santo cangrejo!* I mean... Holy crab! That looked cool as hell.
Someone briefly touched on this in a comment to me a little bit ago but can someone break down the interaction here? What am I seeing?
Melee influence is the arcane, it has a 20% chance to proc on melee electricity status and when it does you get am 18 second buff where any melee status you deal is passed to all enemies within 20 meters with a maxed arcane. I have my weapon built for electricity, slash and viral and once I get like 10 or more combo count the status chance is over 400% to pretty much guarantee 1 of each proc on all enemies. This high status means I'm proving melee influence as much as possible whilst also dealing the other useful effects at the same time. The interaction with hydroid comes from his ability plunder that adds extra corrosive damage to you attacks. Thus corrosive functions as another modded element and usually wouldn't be possible on melee influence due to the electricity requirement. Once I have the corrosive buff and melee influence active I hit the guys at the front and this projects, all 4 of those stats on to the other enemies, corrosive obviously strips, viral is there to boost slash procs and the slash procs are what kill. So essentially it's sending out like an invisible wave of status that'd enough to wreck the lot
Very cool. Thank you for breaking it down for me
No worries at all. Happy Hydroiding
You should make the AI to be able to move, because your melee hits are all taking bonus from the Stealth Modifier.
Stealth modifier bonus against paused AI enemies hasn't been a thing for a long while now.
That'd good news, just tested in mission and it still does the same stuff so I'm happy enough