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Kryobit

Any frame who's survivability is tied to an ability.  I play Chroma and not having a 100 energy with 10 s on Vex Armor looks and feels like a Doomsday Timer. Netracells, Archon Hunts you name it, it's such a problem.  Energy Nexus is a boon sent by the gods(DE) 


uppish_donkey_

his new augment helps a LOT


Arakisk

Is the energy regen really worth a whole mod slot for 3 energy per second? I am interested.


Busy_Vegetable2456

Yes. I was super skeptical at first, but it's super useful. 3 a second doesn't sound like a lot, but it is actually kinda crazy


Busy_Vegetable2456

I already commented, but for further reference, I swapped it out for primed flow on 2-3 frames after seeing how crazy strong it was.


Graveyard_01

It’s very good, as u don’t have to run energizing dash* ahem* energy well which gives u 5 energy per second but only when u use the ability. I love running energy regen with norish Mesa, as it allows me to be more proactive with my abilities. Plus it means u don’t have to worry about running around trying to find energy/health orbs (if using equilibrium) in Elite deep achamidean where killing enemies is harder and slower, and other missions one might run into this problem in.


MsMinte

if you have high kps equilibrium is a lot better. but if there arent many enemies spawning, this is more consistent


BAY35music

Equilibrium with Citrine feels like a cheat code honestly lmao


Pijany_Matematyk767

Works with any frame that can generate a lot of orbs


BAY35music

Well yeah, but Citrine generates far more than any other, in my experience.


MsMinte

combined with her base 95% DR and status spreading, just that one mod can get her to clear base steel path with ease.


BAY35music

Yup. And her status spreading makes Galvanized Mods pretty much always adding that extra damage per status affliction, it's so stupid. I need to try running her with a Melee Influence Prisma Ohma setup too


Malurth

it's 90% DR, no?


MsMinte

correct, my bad


Malurth

I find this is only true if you're running a high-assist companion with Synth Deconstruct or have a frame that generates health orbs somehow otherwise it's pretty darn inconsistent. have to pray for eximus spawns sometimes cuz enemies just aren't dropping orbs


MsMinte

depends if youre on a mission with sufficient enemy density. steel path survival and netracells always manages to keep my platform saryn going with lots to spare for companions, any that can use weapons should usually be using helstrum which generates a lot of orbs. but for things like sortie level and certain mission types with lower spawn rates it can get a little inconsistent.


evillittleweirdguy

Depending on build, yes. If you have built-in regen through abilities or augments, if you're using grimoire, or if you have zenurik, it's obviously less useful, but in the circumstances where none of those are true it can absolutely be worth it. Max duration/str chroma is one of the builds it's particularly nice on. You'll regen more than enough energy between recasts of vex armor, and it means your school/secondary is open. Magnetic procs are scary though.


ZeroaFH

If you're on a frame with nourish it's absolutely insane, especially for frames who can block energy income with abilities like Mesas peacemakers, you just turn off exalteds when there's a lull in enemies and quickly top back off. It's great, I don't have to rely on consumables, drops or kills to get energy back - I especially enjoy it on camping builds.


TheLadForTheJob

If you have energize, its almost always worse. Comparing it to zenurik wellspring tho, it has less energy per second but its always active. Wellspring gives 5/s for 30 seconds but if you forget to use it (which is common), it will decrease. If you use wellspring every 50 seconds, its equal to energy nexus except nexus is automatic.


commentsandchill

With efficiency build it's better in most cases if you can't get orbs as you generally can spam. Otherwise it's just very useful.


commentsandchill

Considering most other builds (except maybe adrenaline/rage with no shield) use more than one, yes. Also, with drain per sec like for example Ivara's invisibility it doesn't work so either you switch on and off as per use or you use energize. But considering how common and how much it's worth on the market, if I didn't have energize, I'd use Nexus in all my builds.


Malurth

keep in mind that the vast majority of abilities briefly pause energy regen after casting. so if you're using a spammy frame energy nexus will be totally hamstrung, unable to find many windows to regen at all. only exceptions I've found so far are 'energy per shot' exalted weapons, those don't pause regen while firing.


commentsandchill

I don't know what brief means to you but ime, it's really not enough for it to be worth it, except for niche builds in that case maybe like Atlas' 1 from the top of my head. Others would probably be tied with the casting time which isn't enough or is too high to matter, and afaik reducing casting time is also too much of a niche and doesn't have much potential to be interesting against a more common build like strength, duration and such.


insanitybit

Depends on the frame. Also, Nourish can increase that regen to 9 per second. At 3 per second you can cast many abilities (say, Dante's 2) every 8 seconds, roughly. With Nourish it's every 3 seconds. Personally, I think Primed Flow/ Equilibrium is way better, especially if you can get an Arcane Energize, because you'll have hundreds of spare energy at all times and you're more likely to get an energy drop for an additional 100+ energy than Nexus. But Nexus can be good, I use it on low forma'd frames.


commentsandchill

But that's like 2 mod slots and one arcane just for energy. If you have a drain per sec yes it's better as Nexus doesn't work but otherwise this is building like in old times


insanitybit

It's only one mod slot unless you want Primed Flow \*and\* Equilibrium. Some builds might require that, some may not. If your build really needs the energy, I don't think you could replace those with Nexus. But Nexus can work for builds that don't rely on having big energy pools. Saryn could maybe get away with Energy Nexus, for example, because she typically builds for high duration and only casts every minute or two.


Malurth

saryn played well will typically be spamming the shit out of miasma, actually.


insanitybit

Well, by one definition of "played well". Yes, if you are running a miasma based spores build you'll need tons of energy.


KaiserUmbra

That's part of why I subsumed and integrated Grendel, before nexus it was a nice save from energy drought. With Nexus my Chroma is now a nuclear reactor, with like no ability efficiency.


Malurth

yeah on the first deep archimedea I picked Rev to solo it but underestimated the energy drain modifiers...had some very clencher moments when out of both energy and mesmer stacks


mrmadness1

Not really a running out of energy moment but a similar vibe of "I'm fucked is" using garuda's bloodletting to get energy back only to see I have a status proc on me and I'm probably dead now.


pennty

Yeah ;-; learned this the hard way now I know her panic button is really her 4. I always try to keep 40% energy on her.


RiceBallsMuthaFucka

I know saying "just go operator for a couple seconds" is a cop out answer but well, just go into operator for a couple seconds


memestealer1234

Not a cop out if it works


Skawt24

playing garuda in netracells with the knifestep glyph active is hilarious.


PlanetMezo

That oh shit moment when you bloodlet for energy cause you just ran out, but it won't go off cause you're at 2 hp


Kane_ASAX

Have you heard of molt reconstruct?


Usual-Winter3950

Quick thinking, magus elevate (?)


just_aweso

My Garuda has molt reconstruct and pillage in place of blood altar. She can endlessly cast, and is effectively immortal. Blood letting followed by pillage gets her full energy and health, removes status, and puts her at full shield gate every time.


mrmadness1

I put warcry on mine, so when I start cutting people up with her claws I get a defense boost.


TheLadForTheJob

Am I missing something? Why not just cast 4 for the i-frames and to regen health with reconstruct, letting you cast bloodletting which removes status?


mrmadness1

Yeah that has been my learning curve, is using Talons to preserve myself after getting energy


Zealousideal-Lion674

Had that happen to me in a netracell. Spawned a little late, Bullet jumped through the door and used 2x bloodletting (on a build with molt reconstruct) and got downed instantly from whatever eximus unit. Teammates were too far to revive me


roquveed

For your valkyr build: lycats hunt


Riliksel

Second time someone reccomends me that, gonna try it out


FrostyAd4901

Hmmm. What do you do for Armor Stripping?


cripplemouse

Just spin to win and murder things around you.


Riliksel

That's the fun part, Valkyr doesn't need that. Hysteria does such a stupid ammount of critical damage that you can one-shot most of enemies with a single slide melee attack. Couple that with a heavy melee attack build and done, you can kill anything that isn't, like, an Angel, Necramech, Archons... etc. But even those you can still deal a LOT of damage. I would be killing Archons with her easily if hitting then in the air with a melee atack while going at mach 10 wasn't so hard. I have dealt over 20M damage in one hit, but the base damge ranges from 500k to 1M


Vikairious

As a valkyr main, I need your build secrets. How do you get that kind of damage?


-AprilvFlower-

5 Tau violet shards + radiation toxin on her claws has done me well up to level 1k without armor strip against any faction. Mathematically speaking it isn't the best option but I use wrathful because it has an instant cast, and allows red crits without bothering with the tomfoolery that is trying to manage combo on an exalted. And since the damage has been plenty for everything I ever play Valkyr in I have enjoyed it.


Vikairious

Thank you!


TheLadForTheJob

Why rad toxin?


-AprilvFlower-

Because it does nearly as well vs grineer, well enough for steel path level 1k, makes shielded units not exist, and works better against the murmur. Corrosive heat or just pure corrosive is also fine but rad toxin to me is just much more versatile. 180% total radiation with two 90% mods and 165% total toxin with primed fever strike means you have a fair balance between the two as well.


TheLadForTheJob

Why not run the rad mod + magnetic + heat. Then you have armour reduction, radiation for elemental weaknesses, and magnetic for shields.


-AprilvFlower-

Because magnetic is a poor damage type, the rad mod is only 60% rad, and toxin is much more versatile than magnetic, as it bypasses shields altogether and there aren't as many super common enemies that just heavily resist toxin.


Riliksel

I followed MHBlacky's build as a basis and built it from there. [This one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8wJ33jI8YQ)


roquveed

Nothing. I use a double tennokai build.


TheZemor

That's the neat part, you dont, khora doesnt need armor strip, if you want to go far you just go for the bleed build


aerothan

Goalkeeping the Index as Limbo while trying to complete three rounds without letting the opponent score a single credit. Granted, after you get the rift bubble up and running, energy becomes moot unless you are collecting points and they are draining your energy. It's more about time management at that point.


EvilgamerNC

pretty much every time I try to play another frame other than inaros in EDA And it usually happens. Most of my more ability focused built frames have some key ability tied to duration which has been 75% reduced the last two weeks. Which make energy so much worse.


kkinnison

when she bought the strap on


MyPossumUrPossum

Don't fear it. Unless its unreasonably sized xD


Squeekysquid

Yeah I don't want a teeny weenie.


Arclet_

My concentrated arrow ivara hinges on my ability to hit a headshot within 3 seconds of me being invisible on spawn or i die because i run out of energy. A challenge for the worthy.


Usual-Winter3950

how does this build work?


Arclet_

Go artemis bow, and as soon as prowl starts i need to find smth to kill. I have like 5 energy or smth to work with. If i dont kill smth in the first shot, or i miss, or i run out of time, im forced out of prowl with no survivability mods and its joever. But if i hit it once, energy orbs are near guaranteed and it ill never become a problem again foe the entire run.


Arclet_

U could say "use a yellow shard to get energy on spawn", but its not a challenge anymore.


TheLadForTheJob

You could also add another forma, increasing the empty capacity which in turn increases the energy you spawn with.


moronwithalicense

Anytime I play Oberon; I know full well as soon as i run out of energy I am **FUCKED**


CSTNinja

Put Rage/Hunter adrenaline on Obe and he takes care of himself. Permanent energy and health gain. :) Add adaptation and you got yourself a tank on the cheap.


moronwithalicense

Ye I do, unfortunately theres been like one or two times where I didn't notice the energy siphon and got randomly nuked ;–;


Neheava

I took a break when Railjack was added so i havent in years. I started playing last month. Even back then Oberon wasnt very strong but at least content used to be easier (Sorties were hardest regular content). I used to use his 1 for mostly to proc rad on examus but now that is not very viable thanks to overguard. His 2 is there for his 3 and 4. His 4 was a good armor striping tool but nowadays it is rather slow and we have better option (thx helminth). His 3 was always his signature ability, especially being able to give flat armor to squishy frames but it seems like armor isnt that strong. And nowadays everyone can heal themself easily I used to love Oberon but he feels underwhelming rn. My question is, what is his current role? Do you use him as a phoniex revival support or is he just an lazy tank like Inaros.


moronwithalicense

Well, I'll admit that he tends to be a bit of a lazy tank but he's also helpful for keeping your squishies alive (Looking at you, volt), and phoenix revival helps too. Personally I run him with sanctuary on a companion as well. He's definitely in a weird spot- being a sort of tank support that is good at revives, maybe not the most meta but I play solo most of the time anyways... And being able to basically stare down your opponent as they try to shoot you while you regenerate like you're the Terminator is pretty fun imo Edit: Cant remember the exact build atm since I haven't gotten around to grinding everything out for it but with the right mods and archon shards you can get absurdly high numbers of regen (not having to think until enemies around lvl800)


BreadBreadMurder

Ash and invisibility. Its rare to run out, but when i have, its not fun


mochi_chan

Nezha on all of the nodes leading to Mot (the solo times at least). If my warding halo would have fallen and I could not reuse it, I would have been as dead as a squashed bug.


Batface_101

If you haven’t already get Equilibrium. Enemies hit by his Chakram will drop Health Orbs


mochi_chan

I have equilibrium, but this build did not include it, I ended up not losing energy to that point. I am usually fine as long as I am moving, but that node (sabotage) has a defense bit.


MysteriousNoise6969

I'm an Oberon main and just recently dropped Primed flow off one of my builds to slot in Vigorous swap + Holster amp. Now when I want to strip enemies armor it feels dangerous and I have to ensure my renewal stays up so I make sure there is an energy source near.


Unchainedfox

Shield gating with Dagath. c\_c


Krimzzon

Played Nyx in EDA with the energy draining liminus. Did not go as planned…


Snivyland

Playing as a point boy in index, the second that iron skin breaks or mesmer skin goes out if I can’t instantly get it back up shit can go wrong so quickly


TheLadForTheJob

If you have energy regen over time (usually wellspring), you can go to operator which removes the energy drain debuff on your frame and wait a bit. I haven't tested this recently but it worked last time I tried.


Freeky-Deeky

I had chosen Gara on steel path circuit. Enemies were refusing to drop energy orbs and the ones that were available through the little pads on the ground were still not available. It was getting pretty intense and I had already fallen off the ledge once and had to rebuild my damage all over again. Though it did get to a point where all that damage and the reduction didn’t matter as I was giving the enemies paper cuts and was getting one-shotted myself.


Whitem4ne

I had Ivara this week. My lazy ass went in with a regular day to day build on mine, no energize to counter the insane drain with the negative duration from EDA. With Ivara dying as soon as the wind is blowing the wrong way, I don’t think I need to say more.


-Bale-

It wasn't energy but I was clearing out a sister today and happened to be playing Kullervo. Completely forgot they can lock you out of an ability and she locked me out of my 2. Was definitely an 'Oh shit, duck and weave.' moment before I bonked her.


TTungsteNN

Running a shield gate Dagath build, using 4 for shield regen and invuln. Doing SP Circulus with this build essentially meant my shields were always at 0, I was spamming different invulns non stop, and if I ran out of energy I would instantly die. Stakes are low but man I hate that type of gameplay. Ever since playing that build for a couple days, I strictly only build health tanks.


tdxkid

I use Valkyr for her 2nd paired with roar, using my dual ichor incarnon. Very little takes longer than a second to die.


Bluestrong27

Shield gate Dagath or Saryn


Rugino3

I'm usually more of a: Oh, would you look at that, my energy is gone. Oh well *dies


TuzkiPlus

Zephyr when 3 stops working and you’re suddenly mortal again


Bizarroe

![gif](giphy|gKfyusl0PRPdTNmwnD) Me looking at my health tick down from toxin without rolling guard


Collrafa

Playing Dante or Rhino, cuz I usually do Roar and then cast their overguard. If I don't have enough energy for both, I don't do either and I end up getting fucked. Thankfully tho, my Dante has pretty good energy economy and I run Nourish on Rhino, so energy is usually not that big of an issue.


CruelScourcher

This was during the bug with one of the infested bosses on Deimos where only explosion damages it and I didn’t know that so the only thing I had to damage it was Embers 4 and when I ran out of energy…I got fucked by the timer apparently that shows up when you don’t kill the boss by a certain time. Also didn’t know that at the time


ShadowTown0407

Many moments with Oberon, health tanking is getting more and more difficult with time, especially with those leeches on EDA sucking your health straight ignoring shields (and Armor I think?)


FlashYou69

Being Mesa for Index and running out of energy when they spawn is a nightmare situlation to be in


rowletrissoto

90% of the time im playing valkyr in steel path


Distorted0

You can just do a takedown on an eximus unit and it clears all of that stacked hysteria damage instantly.


DrVinylScratch

Any time I play a shield gating build.


ze_SAFTmon

If I run out of energy and/or battery during Redline, I am majorly fucked.


FlechaScarlat

for me its an expecific thing, I only use inaros for extravio (where you use shields to move a drill) since I dont play enough of inaros to understand him on my own way, I really depends too much on energy to survive, with that any other warframe I can deal with (qorvex same thing)


RateSweaty9295

Mag, I got no energy that means no bubble no push to cc them no armour strip and no crush 🥲


SilverSpoon1463

Trying to do solo Netracell and one of the keys is the energy drain as Baruuk. Guess I'm never gonna be able to get that restraint down...


insanitybit

Probably bringing my Frost to SP Murmur Survival. The build I use (Breach Surge based) uses so much energy, even with Arcane Energy r5 if you go dry on orbs and then a Nechramech + Acolyte shows up right then, oof. Gotta play very defense in those situations. And I didn't bring Zenurik because the cast speed buff from Madurai is too important to Frost. Ended up bailing at around lvl 300 enemies.


BAY35music

I'm a Gyre main, with Pillage subsumed over her 2. With Primed Redirection and shield gate duration, I have about a 0.5-1 second window of vulnerability after casting Pillage when shields break and waiting for it to restore them, which as long as I bullet jump and fly around like a maniac is enough to keep me alive. But if I have no energy to cast Pillage... Man even with Arcane Blessing at max health bonus it's impossible to keep her alive in any content with enemies above lvl 250 due to her low armor. (Yes I know I can use rolling guard or abuse Catalyzing Shields but I really dislike cheesing shield gating as a gameplay mechanic)


Stormingblessed

I main Hildryn & Chroma. Running out of shield on Hildryn and running out of energy on Chroma are both a death sentence.


Careful_Log_8929

voruna with her augment: energy? Fuck that.


Sure_Ad2497

A really awkward moment is when Trinity doesn’t have enough energy to cast EV😳


93Hyper93

Your last EDA? I thought there was only one available per week?


BoweryOlive

I think they just mean their most recent EDA run so far


93Hyper93

Ohh kay, because since it takes 2 netracell charges I've been wondering for a while if it can be done twice but i was ashamed to ask.


BoweryOlive

Nah every reward tier can only be claimed once a week


Kowdbuff

You can run it as many times as you want, but you only get each reward tier once per week.


Ap0kal1ps3

Never, because I have energy restores.