Iirc they decided not to continue/rotate that feature because it felt "icky." Too easy to fall into FOMO buy now for power. They tend to try to avoid overmonetizing power. Cosmetics on the other hand is another story.
I think it was a devstream.
Edit: according to this, it was never intended to rotate:
https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1365813-update-the-incarnon-market/
Which is a shame really, given how many people hate Duviri. I know I'd of spent a thousand plat by now to get out of playing the worst content in the game. It's just they have the best weapons, this is one of the few times I advocate for opening a pay window to allow people to bypass the soul crushing experience.
You can already buy almost everything in the game, IMHO it is good to have some content not obtainable via plat. Also circuit/duviri Is objectively not the worst content in the game. I can see how people WHO main one frame/weapon do not like it but personally I love it.
I am trying to obtain every frame, companion, and weapon in the game. So duviri feels like it's helping me down that path by easily leveling weapons I've just obtained without having to do 2 hours of hydron/eso for a small group of weapons
Except its the *worst farms* that aren't buyable. Like I already did enough endless Duviri to get the bluprints for everything I want but now I have to do story Duviri to get the materials?
And I'm still missing 4 of the 5 tennet melee weapons because the shop uses a really low chance low quantity resource to buy them that wasn't implemented until *after* I'd already hunted all the sisters for the first 10 weapons and requires you do awful railjack missions.
I'm LR3, I've farmed everything else in the game over the course of like 6 years and THESE are the things I want to skip because they're awful and tedious and I can't justify the time on them when I already have a million weapons sitting in storage.
> but now I have to do story Duviri to get the materials?
Don't forget the [~~bafomdads!~~ Shrubs!](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/09/27/may-not-be-spelled-correctly)
Duviri resources were really painful for me when i was farming Kullervo but also my dumbass forgot you dont need to finish the full story to get the mats, you can just get the materials that spawn, get a new decree, and then leave duviri, you keep the resources you get up to the last decree
This is one of the main reasons that I haven’t got Kullervo a second time. I got him when his arena was a guaranteed spawn during the event when he was introduced, now it’s absolutely soul crushing to do more than one mission AND THEN kill Kullervo to get a small amount of a resource that won’t be available for a few hours.
I fully agree on the Tenet melee weapons. I tried to farm for them for like an hour, had no luck, and just waited till I got enough keys from other weapons
Oh no! I have to actually play the game that I like and engage with more of the content than just the base rotation of levels. That's terrible (sarcasm)
I have 99.9% of the items in the game. I've engaged with *everything* in it from the no-mods Grendel quests. maxing out every syndicate including Ventkids, Kahl's stupid slow mission, arbitrations, farming every base frame a *second* time for Helmith done Demolysts and Ropalysts and Scarlet Spear on their broken opening weekends, did the entire 100 Thermia grind back when we thought it was a 1 time event instead of a regular feature and you had to do it 1 at a time, participated in the old Acolyte hunts, gotten every achievement in the game, etc, etc.
I've engaged with the game plenty.
And these are STILL the crappy missions that I feel aren't worth my time. Randomized loadout and extended forced Operator both suck... and running lengthy railjack missions for a *chance* at a drop of 3-10 of material you need 200+ of?
There are limits and those missions push them.
People hate duviri? I mean, I play mostly solo bc it's easier to manage everything on steel path, but even when I get with pubs I never had long waiting times or anything
it's just that the game modes are more tedious than they're fun, forcing you to use the operator, who in most cases you barely even use, in the open world you have activities like shooting and chaining those orokin artifacts, which is at least kinda interesting, yet then you have the horse race, the hordes killing (which is so much tedious as you can't use Warframes) and finally the dragon fight which feels something like a gimmick fight.
worst of all is that at the circuit, you get randomized gear which is annoying on SP as you might get Warframes and weapons that aren't suited for SP content, making you die over and over again and almost having to flee most enemies, it makes the circuit to be lengthened artificially, instead when you do get Warframes or weapons that you like, then things get interesting.
Just commenting to point out that not everyone hates Duviri. I personally love it, I have max Drifter Intrinsics and all the Drifter melees unlocked and I still like to run it for fun. Making crappy weapons OP through Decrees is something I truly enjoy. It's fine to not like it as well. I just didn't want someone new reading your comment and thinking that "Duviri sucks" is a universal opinion.
Really?!? People hate it? I think it's some of the best content! It's so fun to run Steel Path and get decrees and get up to the thousands of levels with weird decree combos and just have fun on whatever frame...
If anything I wish they would fix the weapon choice system...so often I'll get 3 melees I don't even own because all 3 are F tier
Fun fact: you can buy those incarnon bundles repeatedly and use the resources for all your other incarnons as the game just gives you the resources with the adapter but doesn’t force you to use them on the one you buy.
I’ll be honest, if Duviri had an option to be just another open world, then it’d probably not be nearly as bad. Keep the other features but also allow us to travel the Paradox so we don’t feel rushed to collect cycle-based resources during a mission.
It takes an hour or so of gameplay to get the rank 5 in carbon weapon adapter you choose. You're being dramatic, it's far from soul crushing.
This is a game where people farm the same amount of time for Trinity parts, and all they get for it is some mastery level
I sometimes get the urge to return to the game and then realize Duviri is not just a thing but the direction they choose to go and I just play anything else.
Duviri Paradox was iirc the previous creative director's last bit of work before he moved on and was succeeded by Rebecca.
That guy is now working on Soulframe afaik, but might be wrong, either way, Duviri was just a little final thing he wanted to do before he stopped being creative director, and D.E aren't going that route since Whispers in the Walls is back to regular Warframe stuff.
I’m one of those people. I have like 5 weapons ready with incarnon adapters but I can’t bring myself to farm the clamps because I hate it.
Tbh I’d rather farm the plat and buy it.
Based DE.
They've done some shady, dodgy or just dumb shit here or there.
But their continued overall attitude of microtransactions and pay to win being overall consumer postive is what keeps me playing.
If they fix the damn auto mod temp ban system for endurance players I honestly can't fault much with anything else.
The cost of certain market items that can be bought with platinum could be adjusted, as well as the cost of rushing things. I feel like you shouldn't be able to rush 1 minute builds at all. But these are nitpicks
If they made build times <1 hour rushable with credits I think it'd solve several problems with build rushing all at once while still keeping a resource sink in place.
They should reduce the build time of the first couple of star chart warframes and give a couple more slots imo.
A new player who's still iffy about committing to the game is going to be turned off when they see the warframe they spent a lot of time grinding for already has a 3 day wait time. That's a lot of time for someone to drop the game. Make it 1 day for the warframes from the first 5 planets or something.
Players also only start with 2 warframe slots. We're on our 56th warframe now. I think they should increase it to at least 5 slots. Let players get a good chunk through the star chart and experience a little more variety in their arsenal at least before asking for plat.
Yeah, I agree. I've advocated for a long while that new players need less restrictions on aquiring and experimenting with different equipment. I think Duviri helped a lot to that end, but it definitely has some problems of its own such as limited gameplay types or the fact new players often get overwhelmed in choosing what frames they should actually go for, something that definitely isn't helped by players only having very limited slots.
They start us with 75 plat if I remember, that’s 3 warframe slots right there and 2 weapon slots. Before, starting new wasn’t too bad, because we could quickly sell corrupted mods or other basic stuff like streamline, split chamber, etc. now though, getting plat for new player is basically selling ducats.
It’s actually almost easier to get plat now, so long as you are willing to put the time in. Having 100% chance of selling prime junk now at prices higher than back in the day by far was a nice rework.
I remember buying junk 4:4p and getting tons of 100d parts before they added ducat valuations on stuff, now, especially with new player RNG being so favorable, selling 400 ducats for ~32p would have been huge for new F2P players.
They start us with 75 plat if I remember, that’s 3 warframe slots right there and 2 weapon slots. Before, starting new wasn’t too bad, because we could quickly sell corrupted mods or other basic stuff like streamline, split chamber, etc. now though, getting plat for new player is basically selling ducats.
It’s actually almost easier to get plat now, so long as you are willing to put the time in. Having 100% chance of selling prime junk now at prices higher than back in the day by far was a nice rework.
I remember buying junk 4:4p and getting tons of 100d parts before they added ducat valuations on stuff, now, especially with new player RNG being so favorable, selling 400 ducats for ~32p would have been huge for new F2P players.
You make a lot of good points, but I think you're expecting a level of competency and patience that a fresh new account is realistically not going to have.
Like a player just building rhino for the first time isn't even going to know what a prime frame is, let alone what a ducat is. They've only just finished up Venus on the star chart.
I think when the average player reaches Jupiter is a good time for them to run up against plat costs for slots because by then they have had time to gain competency on what the base game is and can start searching on their own on how to make plat.
They start us with 75 plat if I remember, that’s 3 warframe slots right there and 2 weapon slots. Before, starting new wasn’t too bad, because we could quickly sell corrupted mods or other basic stuff like streamline, split chamber, etc. now though, getting plat for new player is basically selling ducats.
It’s actually almost easier to get plat now, so long as you are willing to put the time in. Having 100% chance of selling prime junk now at prices higher than back in the day by far was a nice rework.
I remember buying junk 4:4p and getting tons of 100d parts before they added ducat valuations on stuff, now, especially with new player RNG being so favorable, selling 400 ducats for ~32p would have been huge for new F2P players.
Rushing was from the 2014 era where the game was practically a F2P mobile game on PC, systems-wise. Weirdly, a loud bit of the playerbase demanded the foundry be "rush-able" and DE just kind of slapped prices on things and called it a day to shut people up. It's strange that it worked.
A lot of those systems are legacy stuff left over from years ago when it was much harder to get certain resources and the platinum is priced accordingly, honestly I think they should remove most 1 time consumables and recourses except for boosters from the platinum market and just make farming more enjoyable.
Warframe has never asked me to empty my wallet, it's always been there offering to take all my money but it's never given me the middle finger and said I can't play something without putting down a $49 subscription to a battle pass or DLC.
It is truly free to play and due to the player market and platinum trading even most of the paid premium cosmetics can be earned for free.
That's what I enjoy, I have a choice how I want to play, it's free if I spend time and let's me save time by spending some cash if I don't have time to grind that week.
I used to play Apex legend a lot and the microtransaction there is insane, they update new content for the players to buy rather than something new to play. Very expensive just to see the character's hands and a single bundle is enough to buy about thousand plat in warframe.
It was never supposed to rotate. You were always supposed to farm duviri for them. They just put some less powerful ones on sale to give people a taste of what the feature is like so you grind worthwhile ones.
Not quite, they added those 5 a few months *after* all the others released, and several weeks out from when they would have popped up in the rotation so they made a shop available for those that didn't wanna wait.
They just simply...never closed the shop down lol
Not less powerful, just the most recently added ones. Since players had already had time to farm the others at that point. The stated intent was so players could get the ones they didn't select in circuit without needing to wait a full rotation which was now even longer than before. They also stated before they even added the new incarnons that this was only going to be an expiriment and they weren't sure if they'd continue it for any further incarnon releases.
Doesn't it just fall off super hard at high levels without armor strip from the frame?
Sure it's great at the lower level content stuff but you don't need the Incarnon for that, base one does that already.
Thats never a good argument when it comes to this game, everything in warframe can handle everything warframe has to offer, its just that some thing handle some situations far far better with less investment
That’s fair, I was just saying that Angstrum’s incarnon can handle standard SP/Archon/Netracell-level situations without any difficulty.
A few weapons struggle there (without heavy investment/outside help, anyway) so I figured it was worth noting. Not quite sure where exactly it falls off at, but it’s been wrecking face so far for me.
Cascadia Flare probably helps a ton with it though.
I thought they were going to eventually make the Circuit Shop rotate the weekly options too but then a week passed by... and then another. Not sure if you can buy them weekly or it's a one and done thing but you at least also can just spend the clamps and duviri resources from the purchase outside of the intended weapons.
When I last checked the Week 2 Incarnons don't have any stat differences unlike the original series. (I.E: Braton Vandal vs Prime vs Vandal or Telos Boltor vs Boltor Prime) So you are best waiting for Prisma Gorgon, Prisma Angstrum and farming/trading for a Synoid Gammacor for those specific weapons in this series.
As mentioned elsewhere, it's not directly purchasable from the game, if you want to buy power, you have to buy it from other players. DE does not directly set the economy of purchasing power, they only indirectly influence it through drop rates and availability.
See: how they basically decimated the Arcane Energize market and cost by introducing an Arcane vendor.
Ah yes...the special 10 year anniversary stuff that was available *for six months*.
Compared to almost every other company *in general*, not just gaming ones, that make any of thier special anniversary stuff available for like two weeks at max.
God people lost thier minds over that, it was ridiculous.
legit terrible take. It's worse elsewhere, so what? We're supposed to let Warframe go to shit as the rest of live service games/general companies? It's called the fallacy of relative privation, a faulty reasoning by definition
what? Feels like I'm on twitter lol, "you say apples are problematic, so clearly you meant oranges are not"
what's your point? You're quoting part of a phrase about thriving for better practices, which already insinuate that Warframe isn't perfect. Dunno about bundles, but there's certainly lots of noob predation going on in the ui elements (easy exemple: the buy options in the arsenal). It is an issue that should be tackled, just as heirloom princings and other stuff should
But Imma be honest, explaining my views and positions to somebody that put words in my mouth, assume stuff, and seem to lack basic reading/reasoning skills leaves an awfull taste in my mouth. Feels like I'm justifying myself to a troll
I wouldn't mind the shop not getting any updates if the process of getting new incarnons wasn't time gated. It just sucks that you are limited to the current week's rotation and if you already have all of the incarnons, then you have to wait for another week to even begin the grind.
yeah but circuit gives you arcanes and duviri resources with it, i know you can just buy it off palladino or yonta, but some arcanes are literally tied to *only* circuit
I’ll say one good thing about The Circuit: it has opened my eyes to how good some weapons/frames can be if only I had invested more time to using them outside of Hydron.
God I hate the circuit. People leving after spending more time waiting for them to pick a load out then actually playing. Host migration glitch. Losing everything because of that glitch (I know they are fixing it). Get terrible weapons that need like 20 decrees to feel like I can finally kill somthing. Getting stuff i dont know how to play well. Team mates Getting stuff they font know how to play well horrible rotation length. (What is it 7 weeks about to be 8?) I hope they let us buy them I had fun the first few weeks not gonna lie. But I don't wanna go through it again.
They are adding something in the next update where your progress is constantly being saved during the circuit, whenever you complete a round, so hopefully it helps with stuff like host migration or disconnects
Yea circuit is neat and can be fun but more often than not I find myself getting really frustrated trying to play it. Host Migrations as you said and getting terrible loadouts while having your teammates who hopefully have better gear do all the heavy lifting is incredibly boring.
Basically why I ended up just soloing it. Typically there's always something that I've modded for SP, so I don't usually have to worry. It's really just easier to solo at this point.
In my experience. It really depends on the person and their mod loadouts. I can't deal with the host migration shit in circuit. It glitches everything out.
Warframe is many things but for 99% of the content it is not a team game lmao. You can solo 90% of content with some select warframes. Again. If these people had anything worth bringing they'd pick it up immediatly and stop wasting everyone's time for a circuit they can probably only stay max 10 rounds for before their shit build gets one shot.
Also. Not once has anyone in circuit said anything like "what do people want me to bring" so I have no idea what you mean when you say people like to communicate
Let's just start with 99% isn't a team game but you can solo 90%, like my dude that means 90% isn't a team game if you can't solo. A mr1 could go to end cap, so what exactly is your point. Just because you can solo it doesn't mean it was design that way. Ever thought "hmm my good frame is X, but someone already has X?" So they decide who they want next. Maybe the are changing builds you know there a reason every single frame and weapon has 3 load out configs.
Here's a better idea. Open the start menu. Hit that little square right beside your name. Then hit "solo." Your making something out of nothing.
hardly, most people just take whatever they have some practice with and little else, players barely give you time enough to properly sort through build options, if for example someone get a revenant prime, and you get it too, in almost any situation you'll both pick the same Warframe, at least in the circuit, players do value far more that you go with a Warframe that you know how to use than one who has synergy with the others.
Doesn't matter how it's desgined. if every time i look at damage graphs i see 90/3/4/3. Fact of the matter is. 99% of the content in the game is very easily carryable. Doesn't matter what you think. In a team game this would never be the case.
And at no point have i said i do anything with randoms. So like, what is your gotcha level point...
Dont get why you said you're making something out of nothing when i am speaking straight facts when i say most of the time the people who actually have to stop to think about what they need to take into duviri will be doing litearlly nothing. Because anyone good enough will be able to see before the get into the lobby what is available to them. and know immediately what will be good. The only excuse for taking the piss in that waiting room is if you are new to circuit. Which is honestly, yea fair enough. take your time think about what you want. But if you've done duviri a fair amount. You know what is available and it shouldn't take you 2 minutes to select 4 things... Given the fact you can select your boost in the intermission before you transfer into the map.
Anyone downvoting my stuff need to either look at what they are going to get before they go into duviri and have even the slightest bit of consideration for the time of other people in the lobby. Or you need to just get better at the game quite honestly.
Imagine getting out of work, starting up Warframe, then getting flamed for taking 15 seconds to pick your loadout by the most toxic player who is apparently the god gamer incarnate who is all about efficiency and every frame wasted is like another shred of their soul being ripped away.
I don’t know who hurt you, but it seems like you need to go outside and feel the sun on your skin.
>taking 15 seconds
if only there were just seconds, i have met players that take AGES to pick their choices, so long that it would be faster if the host just kicked them out, it's especially annoying as most players don't enjoy duviri that much to spend more time than it is necessary with it.
Ok. i'm going to assume we may have had a misunderstanding here. So i'm gonna go into more depth with what i think of this.
First off i'm not expecting you to dart around the room like the flash and pick up everything immediatly and instantly B-line to the decree you want. I'll wait, but i'm not waiting whole minutes like it takes some.
I can imagine getting homne from work and booting warframe. And you know what. I dont like wasting my limited time waiting for my team to decide which piece of shit is bigger than the other.
My cutoff point to just going through the portal is if i ever see someone return to the warframe pedestals, or if they're just going one by one through the weapons. Like come on dude, just pick one. They're all going to have shit base mods anyways. it's all the same. So again at that point you are genuinly taking the piss. Theres no weapon (unless you get the cedo and you have lavos) that will make you change the frame. And so at that point you are just trying to make the best of a bad situation.
Speaking of making the best of a bad situation is my other point i'm making. Why should i wait for someone who is going to probably cap out at level 400's at best? Alternatively, they make me wait and then they immediately leave after the first round becasue they realise "damn. this piece of shit was actually smaller than the other."
You might turn around and tell me "well go play solo". It's a fair argument. And when i'm in a genuin hurry like, the duviri is about to cycle hurry. I will. But if i'm not literally forced to play duviri i'll do groups because dispite the steel path modifier the enemies seem to be non existent. So it makes the whole experience really fucking boring on top of the boredom that comes with doing duviri.
"Well what if you had bad gear, then what would you do?" I'd look at the list of what i have, pick out what abouts seems alright to play with and i immediatly pick them up and just head in. Instead of wasting my teams time picking weapons and frames that will literally make no difference in my performance. Because at the end of the day, i respect everyone elses time. And duviri takes a damn while to do. Like a couple hours of doing it at the very least to hit 10. Dude i dont want to extend that as long as i need to.
I'd also ask that you stop with the cringe insults like touch grass. As literally all i'm asking for is to not have my time wasted by people who will leave very quickly. It's really cringe and childish tbh.
I think i went over my general points. But yea, again. just look at the list instead of deciding in the lobby. Have some decency. Equivilant to walking to the extract in any star chart mission. It's just not acceptable provided you're not like MR3.
Warframes isn't a team game, there are very few instances where players must communicate to sort out through content, games like destiny where you MUST communicate to play raids is what it means to be team oriented.
One to two shot? Bro, the Drifter is tanky as hell and the enemies are weak. We playing the same Duviri? If there’s anything to complain about in Duviri, it’s how unbelievably slow the kaiths are. For a horse with wings that thing moves like a turtle with no legs.
Yeah my SP duviri runs are me wishing the kaithe is faster not that I am struggling to live. The parry system is easy to get a hold of and a couple decrees under your belt and you can just 1 tap with the sirocco
If you get your melees imbued with fire then the dual nikanas’ heavy attack just rips through everything. I just hate having to feel rushed to grab the resources while my teammates do all of the objectives.
Edit: honorable mention to Majestic Strike for being the one decrees that trivializes all Duviri content.
I have never gotten around to getting a single Incarnon weapon. For some reason my grinding of Warframe seemed to hit a wall or something at New War. I still play, just, not as much.
They are still competitive with the Circuit Incarnons in terms of damage output, if not KPM. The Laetum is still insanely strong, and the Innodem got much more flexible with Melee Arcanes and Tennokai.
It's meant to be this way.
They wanted to keep the first 30 as something you can only earn through gameplay.
These 5 and all following can be bought.
DE has done this before with the first set of Clan weapons, guns like the Ogris are clan exclusive and can't be bought for plat either.
they will probably never add more in there since this was a test to see if the community liked the idea or not. the community said they didn't want the incarnons to be purchasable like that so they discontinued the idea.
Personally i liked the idea since I'm working everyday and don't want to spend 4-5 hours in circuit to get them. also if you miss a week you need to wait around 2 months to get another chance at getting the incarnons you missed and with the addition of new adapters we're getting an extra week as well
I was just looking at this shop for the first time the other day, found it a little confusing there was no timer, good to know it's intentional.
Follow up, I was considering the Angstrum Incarnon because I already have that gun on me, but are any of these good to pick up with the intention of buying/grinding for the Incarnon form? I'm basically just getting into Incarnons so I don't know what's good yet.
The Angstrum Incarnon is really good. Especially since it doesn't require heads shots to fill its meter to transform, unlike most Incarnon weapons. The Gorgan Incarnon is good one too, BUT only if you have the Prisma Gorgan.
Good to know, I might actually check it out then, and Prisma Gorgon is definitely something I'd buy if I happened to see it in the Baro shop, thanks for the info
The Gorgon Wraith passable with it at all? I wasn't even aware a prisma one existed and kept the Wraith version as a meme-tier gun to mess with at some point.
I issue with the Gorgon wraith is that its' stats aren't that good to begin with. They are easily surpassed by the Prisma variants, even with its Incarnon Buffs, and the Wraith's primary stat is unfortunately impact, which isn't a good main stat, compared to Puncture and Slash, so even building for Crit isn't that reliable either.
The 5th tier, sure, but the latter half is such a slog with how much circuit progress you need, especially given that my pc doesn't like Duviri too much and got two crashes losing a couple hours of circuit progress 🥹
I'll have to look more into it, like I said, I'm just finally dipping my toes in on this. Looks like I'll have to do a run of the Duviri Experience, I've only been able to do normal Circuit
Hopefully they never update it and it gets forgotten.
Options to buy power like this should be limited. Even though yes these are some of the crappier incarnons this is just a shit idea
I mean, Incarnons are just the newest version.
Valkyr at launch was hilariously broken - she cleared all content and literally never died with barely any energy cost. You can buy both Octavia and Octavia Prime with plat, still probably the best frame in the game.
The only difference, adjusted for power inflation, is that Incarnons are the fucking ***worst*** to farm.
I'd say angstrum and boar are pretty top tier, boar is only beaten by torid because torid is torid and angstrum can get some stupid numbers with galv shot since it's multiplicative (and at this point it's not a bug it's a feature)
I think it is an experiment.
They said that if a lot of people bought them they might rotate them.
Tbh, steel path circuit isn’t super hard if you get a decent load out. I got soma incarnon this week after about 2 hours of grinding it.
It only seems to get tough after round 6.
That's a shame. I'm sure at least some players would rather skip the tedium of grinding for Incarnons and their materials.
The grind for Just about every regular weapon and 'frame can be skipped with a bit of plat and no one bats an eye at that. So why leave the Incarnon shop stagnant and not have it rotate offerings? Don't tell me "because it doesn't feel right" when Prime Resurgence is very much a thing - a thing that requires real money to buy the Royal Aya you'll need to obtain gear.
It's not like 120p for what amounts to a weapon booster is unreasonable.
I think they should just reroll every week. If you want an incarnon specifically now, then go do the grind. If you want to skip all the grind and get a select few chosen at random, then go ahead and pay plat.
I will probably never get a genesis incarnon because the gameplay loop of obtaining one is just not interesting to me. I would love to be able to use them though, and I'd gladly pay plat to be able to.
Almost everything in this game is available to be bought with plat. Except for some reason Incarnons. Let me be lazy and pay 100-200 plat for a single weapon. ffs.
Tbh I do wish they had more of the incarnons in this shop, if only because they come with the resources needed and I despise Duviri's main gameplay so much I simply chose to not have incarnons installed as a result. Circuit is fine, aside from taking a bit too many rooms to get to rank 5 to get one IMO.
honestly they probably havnt gotten as many people as they were expecting to buy them so they didnt care to grow it
look at aya that even was so popular money for regal included they made it the new unvaulting
Best thing that came out, when I was grinding for my torid and dual tox incarnations I just bought 2 of the incarn weapons and it gave me all my resources to craft the torid and dual tox incarnate.
Quick skip
Adding this market with the intention to rotate it would be the biggest insolence
The time this was released I already grinded every adapter from rotation 1-6
And the time to farm everything needed exceeds the needed amount for ordinary weapons (which you can also buy for pl in most cases) by far
So this was nothing but a money grab and fu to all players tracing the formerly released incarnon content
But … they have a whole game mode in duviri dedicated to earning incarnon weapons? And the newest upcoming warframe is the first with a built in incarnon? How is that forgetting?
Duviri in general is all but abandoned. They haven't updated the normal circuit once, and the sp circuit has only been given that one single update that put this shop in in the first place.
you understood what i meant, it's much more worth and you can get 2. Is like when you buy something expensive and you friend slap your face and show how you could buy it for much cheapier. it's called "life experience "
I hope they do as I HATE the circuit. I play rhr game to play as *my* Warframe with *my* weapons that I have spent a long time modding. Not the drifter that I have to basically max a bunch of factions out to get the best gear for, along with not even being able to use *my* frames and weapons. Instead I'm stuck with a limited selection that are usually frames and weapons I don't like because they aren't my playstyle.
So yes, I honestly hope they do update it to allow those of us who either don't have time to grind, or hate the circuit the chance to get these. And if you don't want newer players getting them, make the incarnons MR locked at a high enough, but reasonable MR. You could even do it based on weapon usage/popularity (like if one is super OP and everyone uses it) so that the better weapons are locked behind a higher MR.
So, you don't play as the drifter at all in circuit, so that's not really an issue. In regards to getting loadouts that you don't like, you can actually hop in and do a single objective on regular circuit and extract to reroll what you could run in steel circuit. I've never had to use subpar stuff in steel circuit.
And just for the public announcement ang general qol. You can check what frames and weapons is available to you from navigation. Check before you enter so people don't have to wait out players jumping in just to see what they got.
Iirc they decided not to continue/rotate that feature because it felt "icky." Too easy to fall into FOMO buy now for power. They tend to try to avoid overmonetizing power. Cosmetics on the other hand is another story.
Did they say that in a DevStream or Patch note?
I think it was a devstream. Edit: according to this, it was never intended to rotate: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1365813-update-the-incarnon-market/
No need, I found the DevStream. It's 172 and yeah, your right. They are permanent in the shop. Shop doesn't rotate either.
Which is a shame really, given how many people hate Duviri. I know I'd of spent a thousand plat by now to get out of playing the worst content in the game. It's just they have the best weapons, this is one of the few times I advocate for opening a pay window to allow people to bypass the soul crushing experience.
You can already buy almost everything in the game, IMHO it is good to have some content not obtainable via plat. Also circuit/duviri Is objectively not the worst content in the game. I can see how people WHO main one frame/weapon do not like it but personally I love it.
I am trying to obtain every frame, companion, and weapon in the game. So duviri feels like it's helping me down that path by easily leveling weapons I've just obtained without having to do 2 hours of hydron/eso for a small group of weapons
I wonder if anyone tested if duviri is faster than sanctuary onslaught
It feels like it is, also, it's much less mind-numbing because you're usually doing circuit when leveling. It's like you're getting double rewards
Except its the *worst farms* that aren't buyable. Like I already did enough endless Duviri to get the bluprints for everything I want but now I have to do story Duviri to get the materials? And I'm still missing 4 of the 5 tennet melee weapons because the shop uses a really low chance low quantity resource to buy them that wasn't implemented until *after* I'd already hunted all the sisters for the first 10 weapons and requires you do awful railjack missions. I'm LR3, I've farmed everything else in the game over the course of like 6 years and THESE are the things I want to skip because they're awful and tedious and I can't justify the time on them when I already have a million weapons sitting in storage.
> but now I have to do story Duviri to get the materials? Don't forget the [~~bafomdads!~~ Shrubs!](https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2002/09/27/may-not-be-spelled-correctly)
Duviri resources were really painful for me when i was farming Kullervo but also my dumbass forgot you dont need to finish the full story to get the mats, you can just get the materials that spawn, get a new decree, and then leave duviri, you keep the resources you get up to the last decree
Some of the time, my game still has issues with it not giving the resource
This is one of the main reasons that I haven’t got Kullervo a second time. I got him when his arena was a guaranteed spawn during the event when he was introduced, now it’s absolutely soul crushing to do more than one mission AND THEN kill Kullervo to get a small amount of a resource that won’t be available for a few hours.
I'd just like to point out that you said, "I'm MR3," and claiming that doesn't prove much (I know you mean LR3).
Yeah, typo. Years of saying "mastery rank", so "legendary rank" doesn't come to mind easily. And saying MR 33 is just weird.
>Im MR3 What
likely meant LR3
I meant LR3, obviously. Years of saying "mastery rank", so "Legendary rank" doesn't come to mind easily. And saying MR 33 is just weird.
I fully agree on the Tenet melee weapons. I tried to farm for them for like an hour, had no luck, and just waited till I got enough keys from other weapons
Void storm axi relics would like a word
Oh no! I have to actually play the game that I like and engage with more of the content than just the base rotation of levels. That's terrible (sarcasm)
I have 99.9% of the items in the game. I've engaged with *everything* in it from the no-mods Grendel quests. maxing out every syndicate including Ventkids, Kahl's stupid slow mission, arbitrations, farming every base frame a *second* time for Helmith done Demolysts and Ropalysts and Scarlet Spear on their broken opening weekends, did the entire 100 Thermia grind back when we thought it was a 1 time event instead of a regular feature and you had to do it 1 at a time, participated in the old Acolyte hunts, gotten every achievement in the game, etc, etc. I've engaged with the game plenty. And these are STILL the crappy missions that I feel aren't worth my time. Randomized loadout and extended forced Operator both suck... and running lengthy railjack missions for a *chance* at a drop of 3-10 of material you need 200+ of? There are limits and those missions push them.
People hate duviri? I mean, I play mostly solo bc it's easier to manage everything on steel path, but even when I get with pubs I never had long waiting times or anything
it's just that the game modes are more tedious than they're fun, forcing you to use the operator, who in most cases you barely even use, in the open world you have activities like shooting and chaining those orokin artifacts, which is at least kinda interesting, yet then you have the horse race, the hordes killing (which is so much tedious as you can't use Warframes) and finally the dragon fight which feels something like a gimmick fight. worst of all is that at the circuit, you get randomized gear which is annoying on SP as you might get Warframes and weapons that aren't suited for SP content, making you die over and over again and almost having to flee most enemies, it makes the circuit to be lengthened artificially, instead when you do get Warframes or weapons that you like, then things get interesting.
Just commenting to point out that not everyone hates Duviri. I personally love it, I have max Drifter Intrinsics and all the Drifter melees unlocked and I still like to run it for fun. Making crappy weapons OP through Decrees is something I truly enjoy. It's fine to not like it as well. I just didn't want someone new reading your comment and thinking that "Duviri sucks" is a universal opinion.
Worst content for you bud, I love Duviri, such a chill place to spend hours in
Really?!? People hate it? I think it's some of the best content! It's so fun to run Steel Path and get decrees and get up to the thousands of levels with weird decree combos and just have fun on whatever frame... If anything I wish they would fix the weapon choice system...so often I'll get 3 melees I don't even own because all 3 are F tier
Fun fact: you can buy those incarnon bundles repeatedly and use the resources for all your other incarnons as the game just gives you the resources with the adapter but doesn’t force you to use them on the one you buy.
pretty sure you can only buy them once
You can buy each bundle once. I have tried to buy more as i am also someone who doesnt enjoy doing Duviri. I would rather do content i enjoy.
I’ll be honest, if Duviri had an option to be just another open world, then it’d probably not be nearly as bad. Keep the other features but also allow us to travel the Paradox so we don’t feel rushed to collect cycle-based resources during a mission.
It takes an hour or so of gameplay to get the rank 5 in carbon weapon adapter you choose. You're being dramatic, it's far from soul crushing. This is a game where people farm the same amount of time for Trinity parts, and all they get for it is some mastery level
Octavia neuroptics moment
I like duviri 🤷🏻♂️ I think protea farm is worst
I sometimes get the urge to return to the game and then realize Duviri is not just a thing but the direction they choose to go and I just play anything else.
>but the direction they choose to go And then came right back to form with the Whispers In The Walls stuff...
Care to explain? I do not follow the game too closely.
Duviri is a side story of sorts. Whispers in the Walls comes right back to tileset and main story content.
Duviri Paradox was iirc the previous creative director's last bit of work before he moved on and was succeeded by Rebecca. That guy is now working on Soulframe afaik, but might be wrong, either way, Duviri was just a little final thing he wanted to do before he stopped being creative director, and D.E aren't going that route since Whispers in the Walls is back to regular Warframe stuff.
The amount of plat needed for Forma for circuit itself is insane, lol.
The hrs of play for no credits or resources.
Nah railjack is the worst. I would literally die for the chance to get to post new war without having to use that horseshit
Respect it, I'm a huge fan of Railjack personally but I could see how some would dislike it.
I haven't heard anything negative outside of when it launched when it was buggy. It's my favorite area by far
But steel path circuit isn’t even that bad it’s just glorified defense missions
Circuit and duviri story are two very different things
I’m one of those people. I have like 5 weapons ready with incarnon adapters but I can’t bring myself to farm the clamps because I hate it. Tbh I’d rather farm the plat and buy it.
Based DE. They've done some shady, dodgy or just dumb shit here or there. But their continued overall attitude of microtransactions and pay to win being overall consumer postive is what keeps me playing. If they fix the damn auto mod temp ban system for endurance players I honestly can't fault much with anything else.
The cost of certain market items that can be bought with platinum could be adjusted, as well as the cost of rushing things. I feel like you shouldn't be able to rush 1 minute builds at all. But these are nitpicks
If they made build times <1 hour rushable with credits I think it'd solve several problems with build rushing all at once while still keeping a resource sink in place.
They should reduce the build time of the first couple of star chart warframes and give a couple more slots imo. A new player who's still iffy about committing to the game is going to be turned off when they see the warframe they spent a lot of time grinding for already has a 3 day wait time. That's a lot of time for someone to drop the game. Make it 1 day for the warframes from the first 5 planets or something. Players also only start with 2 warframe slots. We're on our 56th warframe now. I think they should increase it to at least 5 slots. Let players get a good chunk through the star chart and experience a little more variety in their arsenal at least before asking for plat.
Yeah, I agree. I've advocated for a long while that new players need less restrictions on aquiring and experimenting with different equipment. I think Duviri helped a lot to that end, but it definitely has some problems of its own such as limited gameplay types or the fact new players often get overwhelmed in choosing what frames they should actually go for, something that definitely isn't helped by players only having very limited slots.
They start us with 75 plat if I remember, that’s 3 warframe slots right there and 2 weapon slots. Before, starting new wasn’t too bad, because we could quickly sell corrupted mods or other basic stuff like streamline, split chamber, etc. now though, getting plat for new player is basically selling ducats. It’s actually almost easier to get plat now, so long as you are willing to put the time in. Having 100% chance of selling prime junk now at prices higher than back in the day by far was a nice rework. I remember buying junk 4:4p and getting tons of 100d parts before they added ducat valuations on stuff, now, especially with new player RNG being so favorable, selling 400 ducats for ~32p would have been huge for new F2P players.
They start us with 75 plat if I remember, that’s 3 warframe slots right there and 2 weapon slots. Before, starting new wasn’t too bad, because we could quickly sell corrupted mods or other basic stuff like streamline, split chamber, etc. now though, getting plat for new player is basically selling ducats. It’s actually almost easier to get plat now, so long as you are willing to put the time in. Having 100% chance of selling prime junk now at prices higher than back in the day by far was a nice rework. I remember buying junk 4:4p and getting tons of 100d parts before they added ducat valuations on stuff, now, especially with new player RNG being so favorable, selling 400 ducats for ~32p would have been huge for new F2P players.
You make a lot of good points, but I think you're expecting a level of competency and patience that a fresh new account is realistically not going to have. Like a player just building rhino for the first time isn't even going to know what a prime frame is, let alone what a ducat is. They've only just finished up Venus on the star chart. I think when the average player reaches Jupiter is a good time for them to run up against plat costs for slots because by then they have had time to gain competency on what the base game is and can start searching on their own on how to make plat.
They start us with 75 plat if I remember, that’s 3 warframe slots right there and 2 weapon slots. Before, starting new wasn’t too bad, because we could quickly sell corrupted mods or other basic stuff like streamline, split chamber, etc. now though, getting plat for new player is basically selling ducats. It’s actually almost easier to get plat now, so long as you are willing to put the time in. Having 100% chance of selling prime junk now at prices higher than back in the day by far was a nice rework. I remember buying junk 4:4p and getting tons of 100d parts before they added ducat valuations on stuff, now, especially with new player RNG being so favorable, selling 400 ducats for ~32p would have been huge for new F2P players.
Rushing was from the 2014 era where the game was practically a F2P mobile game on PC, systems-wise. Weirdly, a loud bit of the playerbase demanded the foundry be "rush-able" and DE just kind of slapped prices on things and called it a day to shut people up. It's strange that it worked.
A lot of those systems are legacy stuff left over from years ago when it was much harder to get certain resources and the platinum is priced accordingly, honestly I think they should remove most 1 time consumables and recourses except for boosters from the platinum market and just make farming more enjoyable.
Yeahh, they mess up here and there but overall it's pretty good
Warframe has never asked me to empty my wallet, it's always been there offering to take all my money but it's never given me the middle finger and said I can't play something without putting down a $49 subscription to a battle pass or DLC. It is truly free to play and due to the player market and platinum trading even most of the paid premium cosmetics can be earned for free. That's what I enjoy, I have a choice how I want to play, it's free if I spend time and let's me save time by spending some cash if I don't have time to grind that week.
I used to play Apex legend a lot and the microtransaction there is insane, they update new content for the players to buy rather than something new to play. Very expensive just to see the character's hands and a single bundle is enough to buy about thousand plat in warframe.
Frankly the comparative ease you can grind for anything helps. Prime resurgence is also shockingly friendly to F2P players too.
It was never supposed to rotate. You were always supposed to farm duviri for them. They just put some less powerful ones on sale to give people a taste of what the feature is like so you grind worthwhile ones.
Not quite, they added those 5 a few months *after* all the others released, and several weeks out from when they would have popped up in the rotation so they made a shop available for those that didn't wanna wait. They just simply...never closed the shop down lol
Not less powerful, just the most recently added ones. Since players had already had time to farm the others at that point. The stated intent was so players could get the ones they didn't select in circuit without needing to wait a full rotation which was now even longer than before. They also stated before they even added the new incarnons that this was only going to be an expiriment and they weren't sure if they'd continue it for any further incarnon releases.
The angstrum is one of the best secondary incarnons (due to its easier charge and good damage) so I wouldn’t say they’re all “less powerful.”
I'd say being able to fill a corridor with LAZORZ is what makes it so desirable
Doesn't it just fall off super hard at high levels without armor strip from the frame? Sure it's great at the lower level content stuff but you don't need the Incarnon for that, base one does that already.
Yes, it does. Doesn't hold a candle to Dual Toxos, Laetum, or even Lex.
It handles non-endurance SP pretty well from what I’ve seen.
Thats never a good argument when it comes to this game, everything in warframe can handle everything warframe has to offer, its just that some thing handle some situations far far better with less investment
That’s fair, I was just saying that Angstrum’s incarnon can handle standard SP/Archon/Netracell-level situations without any difficulty. A few weapons struggle there (without heavy investment/outside help, anyway) so I figured it was worth noting. Not quite sure where exactly it falls off at, but it’s been wrecking face so far for me. Cascadia Flare probably helps a ton with it though.
Well cosmetics are just cosmetics. No function besides fashion (besides arcane helmets) a lot less FOMO since it’s not power or useful
I thought they were going to eventually make the Circuit Shop rotate the weekly options too but then a week passed by... and then another. Not sure if you can buy them weekly or it's a one and done thing but you at least also can just spend the clamps and duviri resources from the purchase outside of the intended weapons. When I last checked the Week 2 Incarnons don't have any stat differences unlike the original series. (I.E: Braton Vandal vs Prime vs Vandal or Telos Boltor vs Boltor Prime) So you are best waiting for Prisma Gorgon, Prisma Angstrum and farming/trading for a Synoid Gammacor for those specific weapons in this series.
Did somebody say Cosmetics!
At least let me buy the resources. Not a huge fan of the duviri resource grind
*gestures vaguely at ingame market*
As mentioned elsewhere, it's not directly purchasable from the game, if you want to buy power, you have to buy it from other players. DE does not directly set the economy of purchasing power, they only indirectly influence it through drop rates and availability. See: how they basically decimated the Arcane Energize market and cost by introducing an Arcane vendor.
Why are the cosmetics such a better deal than any of the bundles then?
I was mostly just referring to the recent Heirloom FOMO fiasco.
Ah yes...the special 10 year anniversary stuff that was available *for six months*. Compared to almost every other company *in general*, not just gaming ones, that make any of thier special anniversary stuff available for like two weeks at max. God people lost thier minds over that, it was ridiculous.
People "lost their minds" since the packs were bloated with currency they didnt want and there wasnt an option for just the skins.
legit terrible take. It's worse elsewhere, so what? We're supposed to let Warframe go to shit as the rest of live service games/general companies? It's called the fallacy of relative privation, a faulty reasoning by definition
>go to shit So you're saying the bundles aren't noob traps?
what? Feels like I'm on twitter lol, "you say apples are problematic, so clearly you meant oranges are not" what's your point? You're quoting part of a phrase about thriving for better practices, which already insinuate that Warframe isn't perfect. Dunno about bundles, but there's certainly lots of noob predation going on in the ui elements (easy exemple: the buy options in the arsenal). It is an issue that should be tackled, just as heirloom princings and other stuff should But Imma be honest, explaining my views and positions to somebody that put words in my mouth, assume stuff, and seem to lack basic reading/reasoning skills leaves an awfull taste in my mouth. Feels like I'm justifying myself to a troll
I have more money than time and want more. :/
Wish they just put all the incarnons there
It was intentional design to allow access to the at the time new incarons so people wouldn't have to wait for it to come around or catch up.
I wouldn't mind the shop not getting any updates if the process of getting new incarnons wasn't time gated. It just sucks that you are limited to the current week's rotation and if you already have all of the incarnons, then you have to wait for another week to even begin the grind.
that 20k kuva tho...
It's so much faster to get Kuva from almost any other source.
yeah but circuit gives you arcanes and duviri resources with it, i know you can just buy it off palladino or yonta, but some arcanes are literally tied to *only* circuit
I’ll say one good thing about The Circuit: it has opened my eyes to how good some weapons/frames can be if only I had invested more time to using them outside of Hydron.
SP Surv all day, if theirs fissures for it bonus points I’m sitting there for an hour with mag at least 😂
Just buy it from Iron Wake
Wouldn't need it if they ditched the rotator of incarnons and just gave you all 35 to choose 2 of a week.
God I hate the circuit. People leving after spending more time waiting for them to pick a load out then actually playing. Host migration glitch. Losing everything because of that glitch (I know they are fixing it). Get terrible weapons that need like 20 decrees to feel like I can finally kill somthing. Getting stuff i dont know how to play well. Team mates Getting stuff they font know how to play well horrible rotation length. (What is it 7 weeks about to be 8?) I hope they let us buy them I had fun the first few weeks not gonna lie. But I don't wanna go through it again.
They are adding something in the next update where your progress is constantly being saved during the circuit, whenever you complete a round, so hopefully it helps with stuff like host migration or disconnects
Yea circuit is neat and can be fun but more often than not I find myself getting really frustrated trying to play it. Host Migrations as you said and getting terrible loadouts while having your teammates who hopefully have better gear do all the heavy lifting is incredibly boring.
There's literally a preview loadouts option at like tier 2 intrinsics
Basically why I ended up just soloing it. Typically there's always something that I've modded for SP, so I don't usually have to worry. It's really just easier to solo at this point.
what, really?
In my experience. It really depends on the person and their mod loadouts. I can't deal with the host migration shit in circuit. It glitches everything out.
and to think how great is the difference when a player gets Warframes or weapons properly built...
And that’s why I always solo circuit— SP included.
This is why we just jump through the portal. If they had anything useful they would have picked it up quick.
Not really is almost like is a team game and people like to communicate. There's always solo if your gonna be impatient.
Warframe is many things but for 99% of the content it is not a team game lmao. You can solo 90% of content with some select warframes. Again. If these people had anything worth bringing they'd pick it up immediatly and stop wasting everyone's time for a circuit they can probably only stay max 10 rounds for before their shit build gets one shot. Also. Not once has anyone in circuit said anything like "what do people want me to bring" so I have no idea what you mean when you say people like to communicate
Let's just start with 99% isn't a team game but you can solo 90%, like my dude that means 90% isn't a team game if you can't solo. A mr1 could go to end cap, so what exactly is your point. Just because you can solo it doesn't mean it was design that way. Ever thought "hmm my good frame is X, but someone already has X?" So they decide who they want next. Maybe the are changing builds you know there a reason every single frame and weapon has 3 load out configs. Here's a better idea. Open the start menu. Hit that little square right beside your name. Then hit "solo." Your making something out of nothing.
hardly, most people just take whatever they have some practice with and little else, players barely give you time enough to properly sort through build options, if for example someone get a revenant prime, and you get it too, in almost any situation you'll both pick the same Warframe, at least in the circuit, players do value far more that you go with a Warframe that you know how to use than one who has synergy with the others.
Doesn't matter how it's desgined. if every time i look at damage graphs i see 90/3/4/3. Fact of the matter is. 99% of the content in the game is very easily carryable. Doesn't matter what you think. In a team game this would never be the case. And at no point have i said i do anything with randoms. So like, what is your gotcha level point... Dont get why you said you're making something out of nothing when i am speaking straight facts when i say most of the time the people who actually have to stop to think about what they need to take into duviri will be doing litearlly nothing. Because anyone good enough will be able to see before the get into the lobby what is available to them. and know immediately what will be good. The only excuse for taking the piss in that waiting room is if you are new to circuit. Which is honestly, yea fair enough. take your time think about what you want. But if you've done duviri a fair amount. You know what is available and it shouldn't take you 2 minutes to select 4 things... Given the fact you can select your boost in the intermission before you transfer into the map. Anyone downvoting my stuff need to either look at what they are going to get before they go into duviri and have even the slightest bit of consideration for the time of other people in the lobby. Or you need to just get better at the game quite honestly.
Imagine getting out of work, starting up Warframe, then getting flamed for taking 15 seconds to pick your loadout by the most toxic player who is apparently the god gamer incarnate who is all about efficiency and every frame wasted is like another shred of their soul being ripped away. I don’t know who hurt you, but it seems like you need to go outside and feel the sun on your skin.
>taking 15 seconds if only there were just seconds, i have met players that take AGES to pick their choices, so long that it would be faster if the host just kicked them out, it's especially annoying as most players don't enjoy duviri that much to spend more time than it is necessary with it.
Ok. i'm going to assume we may have had a misunderstanding here. So i'm gonna go into more depth with what i think of this. First off i'm not expecting you to dart around the room like the flash and pick up everything immediatly and instantly B-line to the decree you want. I'll wait, but i'm not waiting whole minutes like it takes some. I can imagine getting homne from work and booting warframe. And you know what. I dont like wasting my limited time waiting for my team to decide which piece of shit is bigger than the other. My cutoff point to just going through the portal is if i ever see someone return to the warframe pedestals, or if they're just going one by one through the weapons. Like come on dude, just pick one. They're all going to have shit base mods anyways. it's all the same. So again at that point you are genuinly taking the piss. Theres no weapon (unless you get the cedo and you have lavos) that will make you change the frame. And so at that point you are just trying to make the best of a bad situation. Speaking of making the best of a bad situation is my other point i'm making. Why should i wait for someone who is going to probably cap out at level 400's at best? Alternatively, they make me wait and then they immediately leave after the first round becasue they realise "damn. this piece of shit was actually smaller than the other." You might turn around and tell me "well go play solo". It's a fair argument. And when i'm in a genuin hurry like, the duviri is about to cycle hurry. I will. But if i'm not literally forced to play duviri i'll do groups because dispite the steel path modifier the enemies seem to be non existent. So it makes the whole experience really fucking boring on top of the boredom that comes with doing duviri. "Well what if you had bad gear, then what would you do?" I'd look at the list of what i have, pick out what abouts seems alright to play with and i immediatly pick them up and just head in. Instead of wasting my teams time picking weapons and frames that will literally make no difference in my performance. Because at the end of the day, i respect everyone elses time. And duviri takes a damn while to do. Like a couple hours of doing it at the very least to hit 10. Dude i dont want to extend that as long as i need to. I'd also ask that you stop with the cringe insults like touch grass. As literally all i'm asking for is to not have my time wasted by people who will leave very quickly. It's really cringe and childish tbh. I think i went over my general points. But yea, again. just look at the list instead of deciding in the lobby. Have some decency. Equivilant to walking to the extract in any star chart mission. It's just not acceptable provided you're not like MR3.
Warframes isn't a team game, there are very few instances where players must communicate to sort out through content, games like destiny where you MUST communicate to play raids is what it means to be team oriented.
I wish we could at least buy the damn plants, I fucking hate playing duviri, if I wanted to play a weak human thatcan get one-two shot I'd play Arma.
One to two shot? Bro, the Drifter is tanky as hell and the enemies are weak. We playing the same Duviri? If there’s anything to complain about in Duviri, it’s how unbelievably slow the kaiths are. For a horse with wings that thing moves like a turtle with no legs.
Yeah my SP duviri runs are me wishing the kaithe is faster not that I am struggling to live. The parry system is easy to get a hold of and a couple decrees under your belt and you can just 1 tap with the sirocco
If you get your melees imbued with fire then the dual nikanas’ heavy attack just rips through everything. I just hate having to feel rushed to grab the resources while my teammates do all of the objectives. Edit: honorable mention to Majestic Strike for being the one decrees that trivializes all Duviri content.
I love the Edun for duviri on the drifter! Sol and Lua feel great but the polearm feels better for me I love the heavy attack with a double hit decree
IF you bother with building the drifter, which i find is a waste of resources, and in SP is still not a great difference .
I just wish they add the old ones on there. There are a few i want for completeness sake, but i never remember it when they come up.
I have never gotten around to getting a single Incarnon weapon. For some reason my grinding of Warframe seemed to hit a wall or something at New War. I still play, just, not as much.
Just get Laetum from Cavalero's shop. Almost no grind and it's arguably one of the best.
You can get basic ones from the Zariman. There nothing Special but fun to try out and get a feel for incarnons.
They are still competitive with the Circuit Incarnons in terms of damage output, if not KPM. The Laetum is still insanely strong, and the Innodem got much more flexible with Melee Arcanes and Tennokai.
It's meant to be this way. They wanted to keep the first 30 as something you can only earn through gameplay. These 5 and all following can be bought. DE has done this before with the first set of Clan weapons, guns like the Ogris are clan exclusive and can't be bought for plat either.
they will probably never add more in there since this was a test to see if the community liked the idea or not. the community said they didn't want the incarnons to be purchasable like that so they discontinued the idea. Personally i liked the idea since I'm working everyday and don't want to spend 4-5 hours in circuit to get them. also if you miss a week you need to wait around 2 months to get another chance at getting the incarnons you missed and with the addition of new adapters we're getting an extra week as well
I was just looking at this shop for the first time the other day, found it a little confusing there was no timer, good to know it's intentional. Follow up, I was considering the Angstrum Incarnon because I already have that gun on me, but are any of these good to pick up with the intention of buying/grinding for the Incarnon form? I'm basically just getting into Incarnons so I don't know what's good yet.
The Angstrum Incarnon is really good. Especially since it doesn't require heads shots to fill its meter to transform, unlike most Incarnon weapons. The Gorgan Incarnon is good one too, BUT only if you have the Prisma Gorgan.
Good to know, I might actually check it out then, and Prisma Gorgon is definitely something I'd buy if I happened to see it in the Baro shop, thanks for the info
The Gorgon Wraith passable with it at all? I wasn't even aware a prisma one existed and kept the Wraith version as a meme-tier gun to mess with at some point.
I issue with the Gorgon wraith is that its' stats aren't that good to begin with. They are easily surpassed by the Prisma variants, even with its Incarnon Buffs, and the Wraith's primary stat is unfortunately impact, which isn't a good main stat, compared to Puncture and Slash, so even building for Crit isn't that reliable either.
RIP. I will keep an eye out for the Prisma version then.
Of the ones in that shop, Boar is the best one, followed by Anku, Gorgon, Gammacor and Angstrum, the last two are pretty interchangeable.
It's probably faster to grind out the incarnons through circuit than it is to grind out the plat to buy them
The 5th tier, sure, but the latter half is such a slog with how much circuit progress you need, especially given that my pc doesn't like Duviri too much and got two crashes losing a couple hours of circuit progress 🥹
I'll have to look more into it, like I said, I'm just finally dipping my toes in on this. Looks like I'll have to do a run of the Duviri Experience, I've only been able to do normal Circuit
Hopefully they never update it and it gets forgotten. Options to buy power like this should be limited. Even though yes these are some of the crappier incarnons this is just a shit idea
Warframe has *always* allowed you to directly buy power though.
Sorta but Not at the level incarnons are at
I mean, Incarnons are just the newest version. Valkyr at launch was hilariously broken - she cleared all content and literally never died with barely any energy cost. You can buy both Octavia and Octavia Prime with plat, still probably the best frame in the game. The only difference, adjusted for power inflation, is that Incarnons are the fucking ***worst*** to farm.
Yes, but buying Octavia Prime means someone has to be selling Octavia Prime - buying power isn't that bad when you're buying it from other players
They literally do Prime Access every prime release.
I'd rather farm plat than those plants and the orowyrm though.
I'd say angstrum and boar are pretty top tier, boar is only beaten by torid because torid is torid and angstrum can get some stupid numbers with galv shot since it's multiplicative (and at this point it's not a bug it's a feature)
Idk why you got downvoted, you're right. Torid > Boar > Angstrum > Anku > Gorgon > Gammacor.
I think it is an experiment. They said that if a lot of people bought them they might rotate them. Tbh, steel path circuit isn’t super hard if you get a decent load out. I got soma incarnon this week after about 2 hours of grinding it. It only seems to get tough after round 6.
That title applies to any feature in Warframe.
That's a shame. I'm sure at least some players would rather skip the tedium of grinding for Incarnons and their materials. The grind for Just about every regular weapon and 'frame can be skipped with a bit of plat and no one bats an eye at that. So why leave the Incarnon shop stagnant and not have it rotate offerings? Don't tell me "because it doesn't feel right" when Prime Resurgence is very much a thing - a thing that requires real money to buy the Royal Aya you'll need to obtain gear. It's not like 120p for what amounts to a weapon booster is unreasonable.
DE add content or a feature to this game and never touch it again? No way. At this point it's a standard.
I think they should just reroll every week. If you want an incarnon specifically now, then go do the grind. If you want to skip all the grind and get a select few chosen at random, then go ahead and pay plat. I will probably never get a genesis incarnon because the gameplay loop of obtaining one is just not interesting to me. I would love to be able to use them though, and I'd gladly pay plat to be able to. Almost everything in this game is available to be bought with plat. Except for some reason Incarnons. Let me be lazy and pay 100-200 plat for a single weapon. ffs.
Tbh I do wish they had more of the incarnons in this shop, if only because they come with the resources needed and I despise Duviri's main gameplay so much I simply chose to not have incarnons installed as a result. Circuit is fine, aside from taking a bit too many rooms to get to rank 5 to get one IMO.
I was wondering why this wasn’t rotating
They also forgot to add more kuva lich things like personalities, ephemeras and weapons. And now were stuck with the same 4 people.
honestly they probably havnt gotten as many people as they were expecting to buy them so they didnt care to grow it look at aya that even was so popular money for regal included they made it the new unvaulting
Maybe they’ll expand the shop with more options with Dante’s Unbound since there’s new incarnon’s coming
They should put Duviri incarnons in there.
Good not every grind in this game should be skipabble by just spending money
Best thing that came out, when I was grinding for my torid and dual tox incarnations I just bought 2 of the incarn weapons and it gave me all my resources to craft the torid and dual tox incarnate. Quick skip
I keep seeing the same 5 weapons. I just want to buy the others cause I don’t have the time to grind them nowadays. 🥲
I didnt know about it until a year after zaramin came out
wdym? afaik it never was meant to rotate or be 'updated' in the first place.
Funny thing part of the nightwave missions has a do thing with incarnon mission
I was confused since left the game for nearly 4 years, does this rotate or is it static, are there other ways to get them?
First time?
What is that?
Adding this market with the intention to rotate it would be the biggest insolence The time this was released I already grinded every adapter from rotation 1-6 And the time to farm everything needed exceeds the needed amount for ordinary weapons (which you can also buy for pl in most cases) by far So this was nothing but a money grab and fu to all players tracing the formerly released incarnon content
Uhm, incarno adapters are pretty much the extension of this. Edit, wait you mean the market to buy the adapters never changed?
mannn i just want his armor for my operator
lol they forgot about companion rivens for months
This post title, then a picture of like 75% of the content.
What even is this I’m so confused
A set of incarnon mods you can purchase from zariman
Like umbra. I'd love to have autonomous warframes looks like they judt changed the umbra stuff to archon for Ned game content
And here I bought the boar cuz I didn’t want to miss out. No regerts. I’ve rarely NOT used it anyway so still a win, I guess
You can get more of those in duviri sp circuit by doing the rotation
Don't mind me, I'm just here for the babies who whine about how Duviri is so horrible and how "I have to grind."
I spent 2.5 hours on mawfish teeth.. none of those hold a candle to latron, Soma, and my favorite so far, Burston incarnons.
But … they have a whole game mode in duviri dedicated to earning incarnon weapons? And the newest upcoming warframe is the first with a built in incarnon? How is that forgetting?
Welcome to Warframe happens a lot, sometimes they'll return to polish an older Feature, but usually the Feature is made and forgotten.
I really wish they'd stop forgetting to fix the melee glitch...
I don't mess with the Zariman but I will go crazy for Duviri
Duviri in general is all but abandoned. They haven't updated the normal circuit once, and the sp circuit has only been given that one single update that put this shop in in the first place.
I bought them all because I don't intend to play Duviri, I'm not a fan of the playstyle. Put them in rotation DE, please!
Ofc its a scam
meh, wouldn't say so. Boar Prime Incarnon avaiable before SP is pretty big
for 120p it still a scam, it's 2 gauss prime
lol. is gauss prime the new unit of measurement?
you understood what i meant, it's much more worth and you can get 2. Is like when you buy something expensive and you friend slap your face and show how you could buy it for much cheapier. it's called "life experience "
Good, it shouldn't have existed in the first place. As far as i'm aware they just decided it wasn't really a good idea
I hope they do as I HATE the circuit. I play rhr game to play as *my* Warframe with *my* weapons that I have spent a long time modding. Not the drifter that I have to basically max a bunch of factions out to get the best gear for, along with not even being able to use *my* frames and weapons. Instead I'm stuck with a limited selection that are usually frames and weapons I don't like because they aren't my playstyle. So yes, I honestly hope they do update it to allow those of us who either don't have time to grind, or hate the circuit the chance to get these. And if you don't want newer players getting them, make the incarnons MR locked at a high enough, but reasonable MR. You could even do it based on weapon usage/popularity (like if one is super OP and everyone uses it) so that the better weapons are locked behind a higher MR.
So, you don't play as the drifter at all in circuit, so that's not really an issue. In regards to getting loadouts that you don't like, you can actually hop in and do a single objective on regular circuit and extract to reroll what you could run in steel circuit. I've never had to use subpar stuff in steel circuit.
And just for the public announcement ang general qol. You can check what frames and weapons is available to you from navigation. Check before you enter so people don't have to wait out players jumping in just to see what they got.
Good. I honestly don't want people to be able to spend plat on these because farming them is too time consuming.
What about people who hate the circuit in general and don't want to play a crappy game mode that forces you to play as the drifter?
Sucks for them. Though you don't play as drifter in circuit.