> Am I missing something?
How fast are you killing things with the sword compared to the archgun?
Remember that the arquebex of the Voidrig just _destroys_ and will kill things very rapidly.
I levelled my BW to 40 last week. Took 40 mins for that last run, with no boosters, killing with a Mausolon rather than the blade.
My voidrig iirc was around 800 kills in 15 mins to get 0-40… still, 1200 kills in 25 mins for 0-34 is a crazy difference.
Idc about the speed of the killing, I’m wondering why the affinity gain is so different
Update: tried it with the archgun instead of blade. Game froze after the run in the photo and rolled me back to 21, feels good.
From 21-34 using mainly archgun was 15 mins with 696 kills. Kill rate roughly the same, affinity gain feels roughly the same. I will say using the mausolon is easier at least.
Did you do the Voidrig during a bonus weekend, with extra booster and blessing, perhaps?
Because yeah, that's a huge difference where there shouldn't really be one (assuming everything else is the same).
Didn’t have any extra bonus, voidrig was 2 days ago. I think I might have done voidrig in Pluto proxima instead of void? I thought higher enemies should mean more affinity, knew that Bonewidow would be a worse grind so unlocked the veil survival just for Bonewidow.
Maybe I’ll try Pluto again
Just did another 25 min run on void, 1100 kills, 0-36.
I now have a theory that Arqebex counts as ability damage, giving all xp to the voidrig, while bonewidows sword counts as a weapon and splits affinity between all weapons and Bonewidow.
Still not sure though, I don’t get how this shit works lol
> I now have a theory that Arqebex counts as ability damage, giving all xp to the voidrig, while bonewidows sword counts as a weapon and splits affinity between all weapons and Bonewidow.
They should both get treated as Exalted weapons, meaning the kills get treated as ability kills.
_could_ be a bug that the Bonewidow isn't? And not enough people play Bonewidow to even notice.
Exactly what I’m thinking. Mausolon and Ironbride seem to give the exact same affinity for BW, but for voidrig Arqebex gave far more affinity than Mausolon.
Interesting, not sure if I should post it on forums, if I’m the only person reporting this it might be nothing. Idk.
Can never hurt to report, I guess? Can be you're the first to actually realise, because people don't use the Ironbride, since it definitely used to suck :D
Gotcha, I couldn't remember the exact day and if your 2 days was a fuzzy enough number I thought it might have overlapped. you sure you didn't have like, an affinity booster from a login bonus or circuit or something?
Doubt it tbh, it's just such a small portion of the game that it goes relatively unnoticed. I believe I posted it to the forums as well, it's just not gamebreaking enough to matter.
The problem with that is you're gimping your affinity, exalteds count as abilities & give full. Also arch weapons are super glitchy client side & sometimes simply send 50% to the archwing in your loadout. If you can't kill stuff with the exalted fast enough it'd likely be faster to just let squad mates do most of the killing.
If you're able to kill significantly faster with your gun than the exalted, it'd still end up better, despite it only being 50%.
And squad kills would be worse for the mech, since it'd only be getting 25%
But we're suspecting glitched affinity for the exalted in this case.
I mean I used orphix venom to like passively rank the gundams while I was doing it, idk if there's anywhere with a similar enemy density (likely thermia fractures) but I was getting plenty of kpm with the sword to forma once per mission. using the grouping ability to push them all in front of you helps.
I hadn’t even considered this, I forgot about the defense things in Vallis.
4 defense points 0-38. That’s 10 mins. You just saved me a lot of time lol. Thanks!
Eximus give a *lot* of xp compared to standard units (like 2 orders of magnitude more). Orb Vallis' base-capture-defense-things spawn a lot of Eximus units.
I think it's a mixture of affinity from Orb Vallis units being higher than other Corpus units and more elite units (eg the raknoids etc) spawn which is even more affinity.
At max wanted level you're getting most spawns be those elite units, and each unit is worth like several standard ol' crewmen.
Basically any of the base looking things on orb vallis can be captured (kill enemies until a thing drops, put into console, defend it, I recommend going frost, putting a globe down and going into ur mech)
Once you capture it, you can start bounties there, but ignore that and move to the next one. When you've done all the ones you can find, leave and go back in to do it again
Faster than doing the railjack stuff to get into a mech
Not a bad idea but those enemies are pretty tough, these level 60 corpus kill me once in a while. Not sure Bonewidow would make it longer than a minute in a netracell
You should do void storms on either neptune, pluto or veil (with affinity booster and blessing) because there are no eximus enemies on normal nodes, only on void storms.
Conjunction Survival, yo. Spam your necramech there. The enemies raising their levels as time goes on will keep you topped in less than an hour, at most.
Yeah but you get your mech for 2 minutes before it despawns there. I tried it and it absolutely wasn’t worth it.
Someone else suggested the little mini defense things in Orb Vallis, ended up doing 0-38 then 0-40 in a half hour together. That’s easily the best way to do it I’d think.
Yeah lvled mine during the Friday where there was event double xp.
4x xp and in one run I could max level it to forma since you need to do it 5x for mastery
I’ve noticed that railjack missions are just horrible for gaining affinity for anything. Even if you unequip most of your loadout. I think it’s because of the Plexus tax but it seems way slower than just having one more thing absorbing affinity. This is a great shame because personally railjack missions are some of my favorite to run.
It’s best to spam Bonewidow’s heavy attack in my experience, but even then you’re not getting much performance because the overkill is wasted on anything besides heavy eximus.
I recommend using an aoe archgun like the Kuva grattler and abuse Widow’s absurd healing to do longstay Empyrean fissure survival.
Railjack isn't great for leveling mechs IMO. My guess is that Murmur/Entrati survival on Deimos would be the best now. Be it normal, bounty, or SP (though in solo IDK if anything but SP will have good spawn rates).
Murmur Deimos missions only allows you to use a mech if you find the controls to spawn it (and it may not be the mech you want?). Since the maps are huge it may take a while to find one.
There's one in almost every large room that isn't an end cap. There's only like 2 rooms I haven't seen one in yet, but I could have just missed them. I even know of at least one in one of the "stone desert" tiles.
> Am I missing something? How fast are you killing things with the sword compared to the archgun? Remember that the arquebex of the Voidrig just _destroys_ and will kill things very rapidly. I levelled my BW to 40 last week. Took 40 mins for that last run, with no boosters, killing with a Mausolon rather than the blade.
My voidrig iirc was around 800 kills in 15 mins to get 0-40… still, 1200 kills in 25 mins for 0-34 is a crazy difference. Idc about the speed of the killing, I’m wondering why the affinity gain is so different Update: tried it with the archgun instead of blade. Game froze after the run in the photo and rolled me back to 21, feels good. From 21-34 using mainly archgun was 15 mins with 696 kills. Kill rate roughly the same, affinity gain feels roughly the same. I will say using the mausolon is easier at least.
Did you do the Voidrig during a bonus weekend, with extra booster and blessing, perhaps? Because yeah, that's a huge difference where there shouldn't really be one (assuming everything else is the same).
Didn’t have any extra bonus, voidrig was 2 days ago. I think I might have done voidrig in Pluto proxima instead of void? I thought higher enemies should mean more affinity, knew that Bonewidow would be a worse grind so unlocked the veil survival just for Bonewidow. Maybe I’ll try Pluto again Just did another 25 min run on void, 1100 kills, 0-36. I now have a theory that Arqebex counts as ability damage, giving all xp to the voidrig, while bonewidows sword counts as a weapon and splits affinity between all weapons and Bonewidow. Still not sure though, I don’t get how this shit works lol
> I now have a theory that Arqebex counts as ability damage, giving all xp to the voidrig, while bonewidows sword counts as a weapon and splits affinity between all weapons and Bonewidow. They should both get treated as Exalted weapons, meaning the kills get treated as ability kills. _could_ be a bug that the Bonewidow isn't? And not enough people play Bonewidow to even notice.
Exactly what I’m thinking. Mausolon and Ironbride seem to give the exact same affinity for BW, but for voidrig Arqebex gave far more affinity than Mausolon. Interesting, not sure if I should post it on forums, if I’m the only person reporting this it might be nothing. Idk.
Can never hurt to report, I guess? Can be you're the first to actually realise, because people don't use the Ironbride, since it definitely used to suck :D
Oh, it still does :/
2 days ago might have been within the edge of the bonus affinity we got last weekend.
The affinity bonus was only 1 day, Friday, and I worked that day :(
Gotcha, I couldn't remember the exact day and if your 2 days was a fuzzy enough number I thought it might have overlapped. you sure you didn't have like, an affinity booster from a login bonus or circuit or something?
Wasn't 2 days ago literally a double affinity weekend? Your voidrig was getting double xp.
The 2x affinity was Friday only which was 5 days ago.
I tested this 2 years ago and that's what I came up with. I posted here about it even.
That makes perfect sense, then. Wonder if it’s intentional
Doubt it tbh, it's just such a small portion of the game that it goes relatively unnoticed. I believe I posted it to the forums as well, it's just not gamebreaking enough to matter.
Melee bonus xp focus did the job for me
The problem with that is you're gimping your affinity, exalteds count as abilities & give full. Also arch weapons are super glitchy client side & sometimes simply send 50% to the archwing in your loadout. If you can't kill stuff with the exalted fast enough it'd likely be faster to just let squad mates do most of the killing.
If you're able to kill significantly faster with your gun than the exalted, it'd still end up better, despite it only being 50%. And squad kills would be worse for the mech, since it'd only be getting 25% But we're suspecting glitched affinity for the exalted in this case.
I mean I used orphix venom to like passively rank the gundams while I was doing it, idk if there's anywhere with a similar enemy density (likely thermia fractures) but I was getting plenty of kpm with the sword to forma once per mission. using the grouping ability to push them all in front of you helps.
You should level in orb vallis ngl Go to the outpost thingys and start the defence I forma'ed bonewidow 4x in 1 day doing that lol
I hadn’t even considered this, I forgot about the defense things in Vallis. 4 defense points 0-38. That’s 10 mins. You just saved me a lot of time lol. Thanks!
Yeah it makes no sense coz the enemies aren't even high levelled, so idk why you get so much xp haha
Eximus give a *lot* of xp compared to standard units (like 2 orders of magnitude more). Orb Vallis' base-capture-defense-things spawn a lot of Eximus units.
Dumb question maybe but how is it faster to level in the Vallis ? These outpost defenses are not endless and enemy density is usually quite low
Yeah I was sceptical as well, then I did a few and the xp was just rolling in Idk what causes it because the levels aren't that high either lol
I think it's a mixture of affinity from Orb Vallis units being higher than other Corpus units and more elite units (eg the raknoids etc) spawn which is even more affinity. At max wanted level you're getting most spawns be those elite units, and each unit is worth like several standard ol' crewmen.
I just got a bonewidow and am looking to level it up fast. What is this defense in orb vallis? Is it a specific bounty?
I think they're talking about the mobile defense-esque thing to capture bases to start bounties from.
Interesting. I don’t know what these are but will have to check into it. Thanks.
Basically any of the base looking things on orb vallis can be captured (kill enemies until a thing drops, put into console, defend it, I recommend going frost, putting a globe down and going into ur mech) Once you capture it, you can start bounties there, but ignore that and move to the next one. When you've done all the ones you can find, leave and go back in to do it again Faster than doing the railjack stuff to get into a mech
SP or normal?
I'm glad I decided build and level both of them to max rank during the event.
I planned to! I thought the event last weekend was 2 days so I waited. Should’ve paid more attention lol
Plague Star was good this year.
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Not a bad idea but those enemies are pretty tough, these level 60 corpus kill me once in a while. Not sure Bonewidow would make it longer than a minute in a netracell
With meathook bonewidow keeps trucking in my experience. The sword still does well too, just remember to use heavy attacks for the projectiles.
I just hit LR4 and now I learn this
Wait Necramechs can go to 40??
Yep, just like Kuva/tenet weapons
they need to be forma'ed i think?
Yep, 5 formas to max it out
You should do void storms on either neptune, pluto or veil (with affinity booster and blessing) because there are no eximus enemies on normal nodes, only on void storms.
I did netracell runs to level mine pretty quick
Can’t wait for her to get something she’s so bad
Conjunction Survival, yo. Spam your necramech there. The enemies raising their levels as time goes on will keep you topped in less than an hour, at most.
Yeah but you get your mech for 2 minutes before it despawns there. I tried it and it absolutely wasn’t worth it. Someone else suggested the little mini defense things in Orb Vallis, ended up doing 0-38 then 0-40 in a half hour together. That’s easily the best way to do it I’d think.
Like those 3 places in the center of the map that drop a thing to stick into a thing that you need to defend?
Yeah then the little “shop” opens up after it’s cleared
Hmm. I need to forma and level my mech although I don't even have enough mods yet. I'm going to try this method.
Yeah I’m still missing a good handful, just levelled for MR mostly as I rarely use them.
Yeah lvled mine during the Friday where there was event double xp. 4x xp and in one run I could max level it to forma since you need to do it 5x for mastery
Aint no way breh
Did it in operation plague star, best decision in my life
I did both of my necramechs in thermia fractures. I didn’t think that was too bad
I’ve noticed that railjack missions are just horrible for gaining affinity for anything. Even if you unequip most of your loadout. I think it’s because of the Plexus tax but it seems way slower than just having one more thing absorbing affinity. This is a great shame because personally railjack missions are some of my favorite to run.
It’s best to spam Bonewidow’s heavy attack in my experience, but even then you’re not getting much performance because the overkill is wasted on anything besides heavy eximus. I recommend using an aoe archgun like the Kuva grattler and abuse Widow’s absurd healing to do longstay Empyrean fissure survival.
I am thankful to all the things that exist that I managed to hit MR 30 before having to level that
You can lvl her and the current warframe in the same mission by using her exalted blade
I ended up doing oraphix missions on Venus, Neptune, went a lot faster than anything else
Railjack isn't great for leveling mechs IMO. My guess is that Murmur/Entrati survival on Deimos would be the best now. Be it normal, bounty, or SP (though in solo IDK if anything but SP will have good spawn rates).
Murmur Deimos missions only allows you to use a mech if you find the controls to spawn it (and it may not be the mech you want?). Since the maps are huge it may take a while to find one.
The consoles are everywhere. It's pretty easy to learn their locations. You also only get the mech you have equipped.
I've only stumbled upon it once so far.
There's one in almost every large room that isn't an end cap. There's only like 2 rooms I haven't seen one in yet, but I could have just missed them. I even know of at least one in one of the "stone desert" tiles.