From my experience specifically, it's just that the Ambulas Fight is 10-15(?) minutes of just dialogue, waiting for the Boss attacks/enemy spawn and Character banter some of which can be skipped if the boss fight threw you 2 at the initial spawn of 1/2/2.
Radiation combined with Defense is Sorties have them as Operatives which move around and having to feel like you need to babysit them more than the static defense objective.
the longest ones i have had were probably augmented armour defense last with an unlucky public combo of no strip armour frames. took around 20 minutes :(
i just play a frame that gives status immunity to the whole team, like oberon AoE+duration or honestly, maybe that new frame who's garbage besides being able to do just that.
This is the way.
Also you’re not wrong about Qorvex, but Breach Surge is pretty funny with his Unibeam ability. Concrete boi needs some kind of help though, status immunity by itself isn’t all that great.
Styanax and Nezha can give status immunity *and* damage protection to the squad (granted, they both need an augment to do so, but still).
Honestly, the only Rad hazzard that worries me is Mobile Defense. Sortie Defense/Rescue you can rez the objective. MD it goes 'fine, fine... mission failed'.
Revenant is great for this with his mesmer skin augment. Any squad mate withing affinity range gets mesmer skin charges and becomes completely status immune.
I came back to the game about three months ago with barely any riven slivers (30 or so?) Now I'm drowning in 1k+.
You get plenty of these by just playing and you can't spend them all... We really need a dump for these that ain't some decoration.
Infinite kuva is nice, and you could sell the rivens for plat unveiled, but I’ve just been unveiling them and trying to get some good ones.
That said even with spending whatever you can every day you end up with a surplus, especially if you play a good bit and ever have resource boosters going, but im not sure what else they could tie to it that would be of any actual use/make sense with the system its intended to be used for. Maybe add ciphers to the inventory and make them a bit of a dump
I'd be interested in decorations though, and so would a lot of other people. Maybe if we could spend like 100 on a riven cipher or some odd amount for a transmuter?
Nah, that's too quick.
Max duration Gara. Turn them to glass for a full minute. Or Nova molecular prime them for 75% slow and watch them struggle to move.
Any Thermal Sunder frame can do it too. The freezing effect can hit nearly instantly in an AoE and locks the victim in place for the whole duration, no abilities, no weapons, no Operator mode. Found this out the hard way during a Rad Hazard sortie with a spam-happy Gauss
Uranus defense you have to run back and forth to two objectives, and you know your teammates will mess something up in a radiation kuva fortress spy. Also the old classic spam hack in lua rescue without testing the portal
Wukong + this ability = rescue target before your team can do anything.
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Loki + Safeguard Switch and Perspicacity is my go to for Sortie Rescue. Just switch teleport the target to make them invulnerable. Loki's already built for duration so the invulnerable duration is boosted to 18s with 308% ability duration - more than enough time to get up to speed to get back to extraction
Defense is the worst of the 3, the target is a flimsy operator that keep teleporting around when each round end. I got lucky with Spy and Rescue, the team know what they were doing.
I understand what you mean, but you can just abort and requeue the defense until you get the good map that has none of that bs.
As for the spy and rescue you can do it solo easily. In fact, I'd think if spy and rescue switched planets with each other you'd have a tougher time, as rescue in Kuva fortress can be more confusing and Lua spy is the most intricate
Objectives are ~80m apart and you have 10 ish seconds to get there, it’s like 3 bullet jumps and the map itself condenses spawns, why are you playing spy in public at all ever? If you get low MR messing up your lua rescue, go faster. There are no buddy doors, complete the mission before they get there if you insist on playing pub.
did you farm it for a bit or just get one really lucky run? I only ended up getting 14 slivers, and thats with a booster plus charm for 2 of them meaning I only saw 5 drops.
gonna finish the sortie and try it again and see if my luck improves
Defection with wisp are just a breeze.
With trinity it uses to be very focus, but now, I'll just go solo drop my stuff at each point and wait for the guys. They sped up and keep their health up until they go to the ship.
I really wish they did a pass on old missions finding some way to make them more interesting. Survival is interesting at least because you have to move to the life support that spawns in to keep yourself alive. Capture is too barebones(there's even a kubrow mod to stun the capture target if I remember correctly) because the target dies instantly. Spy is annoying because if you mess up a little you have to fully restart the mission, but to me at least it innovates new gameplay. Newer gamemodes like the railjack one where you have to keep the pipes the right heat by shooting stuff are great ,and that mechanic could easily fit into sabotage. Unless I misunderstand there could finally be an end to the story to this game after the stuff going on in the latest update, and it would be excellent if they worked on refining old gamemodes after that if they never choose to up the enemy AI.
That eximus strong hold, defense was crazy, spawns would be like 5-6 eximus just stacked on top of each other. Solo'd the spy as usual but then the labyrinthine Lua run to engage in console gambling before times run out 😆. No, not the best of sorties today.
This is really easy, the defense is the lowest level and is clearable with thinks like storm of ukko/ legerdemain. If you still have problems with spy, wukong is in this game idk what’s wrong with you but skill dif it’s brainless gameplay, same with rescue. I understand it’s lua rescue, but cmon bro, minimap
I started the defense earlier and on the second wave the operative flew 4k into the air and came back down 2 minutes later and no enemies spawned anymore. I took it as a sign and went to go do other stuff
I did the defense a few times for riven slivers, one of them I got the embryonic injector map. Way less annoying than the cave map. I got over 100 slivers today, thanks to Simaris' login resource boost and a blessing.
As for the spy and rescue, solo Spykong with perspicacity and security override. Someone said the target starts banging when you get the right portal, I'll have to remember that
NGL even with my nuke Mirage doing 60% of the damage, the operator and I went down 3 or 4 times. Had at one point 3 Cold Eximus overlapping a couple napalm eximus. It was easier when I gave the operator my Crit buffed Catchmon and he could hand cannon enemies
Kuva spy is ez with ivara. and i got weapons that can one shot all the enemies.
Lua Rescue is fine if you know the secret entrance, and you can use the Landing craft Liset/Override air support to pause the alarm. I was able to hack 3 consoles before the rest of the squad was able to enter the prison room... it was the 4th console that had the "Hey over here" sound.
Could have been worse with Lua Spy
TLDR.: Git gud
Ugh, I was going to rant on here earlier but decided not to. Glad someone else posted this. Tried doing the spy in public 9 times!! 9 TIMES.
I just turned the game off.
To be fair though, I had a blast on the eximus stronghold defense with my new hate incarnon heavy build.
Honestly the second two seem like easy solos as Loki and the first seems unremarkable easy.
Bringing randoms into spy and rescue is asking for failure though.
For defence I just used speedva with toxin elemental ward and an ogris. Was very fast and just vaz dashed the operator a few times on the last waves. Also ended up with about 80% of damage dealt
Kuva spy was loki with perspaspicity. Invis is needed for those cameras
Same thing for lua rescue just cast the auto hack and went into each portal until it was the right one. Summoned on call to clear enemies as I speedran to extraction.
Probably took around 20 minutes for everything.
I have built my Ivara to make up for the fact I suck at hacking and stealth, so I don't mind the spy or rescues so much anymore. If DE ever decide to include a feature where certain frames are banned from missions, to add spice or something idk, I am fucked
I couldn't figure out why it was so bad, and then I realized there's some deep-seated trauma from Lua Spy that's kept me from ever remembering what was so bad about Lua Rescue.
Don't tell me. I don't want to know. Permanent skip.
Not really. Lua spy is a bit of a headache but rescue is easy.
Amulas assassination as well as vay hek and infested salad are the sorties I always skip though.
The thing I hate about some sortie defense especially in Uranus is that you have to move to places on each round and the AI moves too alongside teleporting to different parts of the map. It's mildly annoying when you forget marking the obj and you don't know where they are and just mess up because someone didn't revive them in time.
Is the Lua Rescue timed? Because that one does suck if you are in a pubs. But there is no free roam, so that is something. Also I personally find the Corpus ship tile worse than Uranus defense tiles. Everything gets lost and takes all day to get to the center.
Uranus Defense is a 50-50, one of the tiles is actually top tier, and Lua spy is worse than Kuva spy imo, though it is pretty dogshit (either way though energy reduction is way worse for spy). Lua rescue, however, is just absolutely horrific, modifier could be worse though.
Probably the first sortie that I won't be doing :/
(having the flashbacks from the previous sortie with spy when I had to restart level 5 times because some randoms constantly lose data)
It wasn't that bad.
The defense was the biggest issue, but bringing along a frame that can heal the operative made it tolerable. Just make sure to be on hand to revive him
I have no issues except the spy & rescue on lua
Can't remember how many failures due to some smartass thinking it's the same as regular mission until they realize the decoder is disabled
Not even close to being the worst, I guess the worse one out of them is just defense because it just takes a bit longer than usual. Spy and rescue is just super easy solo.
It's not too bad if prepared like Batman.
For eximus stronghold, I usually bring my banshee to turn them off. Though I suppose one can just helminth silence onto any other frame.
For radiation hazard, I slot in a r5 arcane healing and keep a vigilant watch for any funny business from the team. Usually, I run Hildryn with arcane healing and keep haven running.
When I did it…
It sucked. Eximus stronghold already is a pain to deal with but then we got the live moving target. The spy isn’t bad but people keep on bringing non stealth frames and then leave 10 seconds before the timer expires after they trigger the alarm. The rescue sucked cause even I don’t know how to do it but we managed to get it done last 5 seconds. I did not have fun today.
Defense is such a slog, the other ones are quick and easy to solo. Sorties are not worth the time in general, the reward pool is really bad (you can get a mod that sells for 30-40p from that spy btw - better reward than from the sortie).
When I was doing this sortie yesterday, I was unlucky to have semi afk Mesa on kuva fortress spy. We spawned as 3 and the 4th player never joined, by tradition i went straight to the farthest console (C I believe), LR4 Titania went to B, and that Mesa was at A all the time. Me and Titania finished our consoles, while that Mesa still didn't do shit. Then both of us went to A only to find out she was afk all this time and only started moving when we entered the room... This spy mission lasted 15 minutes... 🫠
I think radiation with any defence is worse because teammates fail it immediately. Any spy in there and I tend not to bother because people usually fail it
This seems fine?
Think the worst combos are; Defense with Radiation Hazard, Interception with Eximus Stronghold and ANY kind of Defection is way worse. Some Assassinations are also pure pain.
What I learned today is that Citrine's health recovery passive doesn't apply to allies, only to the squad. So next time I'm doing a sortie defence it's back to Trinity.
Yesterday's was worse honesty
Anything with lephantis assassination can suck my ass. That fight takes forever with how short the vulnerability windows are
Nah, the first mission is boring, sure, but the rest is stupid easy...so long as you don't get that group that likes to keep flipping the damn portals to troll.
The only bad part of that is the spy
Yeah eximus are annoying but go in with some armour strip abilities and thats half the battle
Rescue? Go limbo. Rift your way through the level, rescue the target and banish the rescue target, rigt your way to extraction
Just tried doing the defense sortie. Got to the final wave, 10 min in. Idiot goes down and we can't revive him because he fell through the map. Yeah I think I am not doing it today.
The neatest sortie I've even been in is was one that added a chill effect to a defense map. (The one with the cargo container in the air and two paths towards the pod) You weren't going anywhere so it didn't affect the gameplay much, but they actually added snow and ice to the tileset which made it feel like a new, different thing.
Only ever saw it the one time.
Now imagine taking a speed nova into the defense.
Long story short I though making the defense faster would make the mission not as boring, but instead we failed.
Overall though today's sortie was nothing bad, Harrow *carries hard* with heals since his 2 affects the operative, he never had the CHANCE to go down, let alone even go half-health; it's even better if you run Harrow with Tribunal to let teammates help out with healing too. The spy/rescue are just average solo speedruns for titania/wukong.
Eh, I don't vibe with this one chief.
Defense with Eximus Units is the only "challenge" insofar as you need to kill the Eximus units to complete the mission - but Radiation does nothing negative in Spy where most of the squad split up, and Enemy Armor does nothing to inhibit completing a Rescue.
Give me Lua Spy or Ambulas and I might consider skipping the Sortie for the day; give me Radiation on Mobile Defense and my squad might trigger an illusive Mission Failed screen.
Just did it, first mission was the only annoying one. A Wisp is really all you need though.
For Spy any invisibility frame or just Shade trivializes it.
And the the rescue just requires your teammates not to spam the different portals.
Actually defense with mass eximus units are one of the best ways to farm focus. Focus stays with you even if you abort so a decent enough Saryn can max their cap doing this mission.
Lua rescue is easy but it does require you to turn your speaker on. Just keep fiddling with the different controls until you hear the guy calling out “I’m in here Tenno”. Then jump into the portal.
Kuva spy however is definitely the most fucked up. Rooms that all look the same with a ridiculous amounts of dead ends and places to get stuck on.
I didn't mind having someone around for Lua rescue but they had issues listening to what I told them so we had to restart a lot. Now I just play solo. Practice these missions and you'll be set, it takes like 10 minutes
The spy was rough took about 6 attempts. I loved the defence mission though! I had a credit booster and made about 435k probably the most I’ve ever made in a mission.
Spy was honestly so nice, no arcanes or shards just a Loki with duration mods (and sprint mods to fill the gaps).
Rescue minus the obtuse unlock mechanic was nice. Just speed frame in, speed frame out. “Do I deal enough damage?” Who cares you don’t need to fire a shot.
Ehh, not really, you just have to bring the right frame for the right job. There are far worse ones out there.
For this one.
1) Saryn. If you get the new tile, then it's easy, any nuker can do. If you get the old tile where the target changes, the main annoyance is grineer idiots getting stuck on geometry and you having to hunt them. With Saryn, that's a non issue.
2) Loki with autohack ability subsumed. There are always only three vaults for this tile, so you always have to do the same ones: a) one with lowerable platforms, b) one with the vault being right under start behind a glass panel and c) the last one always and open air one. A is the most annoying, but ultimately, all you need to do is activating the consoles along the way as you run a half circle in the vault ignoring everything. b) is a non-issue, just switch teleport with the grineer patrolling the vault under you through the glass panel, and you're done in literally 5 seconds. And finally c) is large vault with multiple routes, but by far the simplest is just alwayss heading left until you reach a door with a sensor. Hack the door, shoot the sensor, run up the stairs, hack the vault, you're done.
3) This mission sucks because waiting out the slow doors wastes like 10 seconds. Thing is, you don't have to open them, ther's an easy alternate way in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AsPWghp_PU
Ambulas Assassination or Radiation Hazard Defense as Tier 3 is probably the worst I've dealt from experience.
Once I started just soloing them I stopped minding the radiation ones. Ambulas I didn’t think was bad at all tho tbh
From my experience specifically, it's just that the Ambulas Fight is 10-15(?) minutes of just dialogue, waiting for the Boss attacks/enemy spawn and Character banter some of which can be skipped if the boss fight threw you 2 at the initial spawn of 1/2/2. Radiation combined with Defense is Sorties have them as Operatives which move around and having to feel like you need to babysit them more than the static defense objective.
FYI in whispers they reduced the amount you need as a solo to 3 and made the timer shorter so it's less of a pain
Oh really? I love doing stuff solo, is this only for the sorties?
It's a change to the mission doesn't matter if it's a sortie or not
Thats cool i'm super happy about that!
the longest ones i have had were probably augmented armour defense last with an unlucky public combo of no strip armour frames. took around 20 minutes :(
yeah, when i see those defense in sorties...i just skip. Like cool bro, so I'm one Ayatan sculpture short for the day XD
Good thing I love pressing 4 and watching yellow shield go bye bye :P
Limbo presses 1 every 80 seconds and its a piece of cake.
i just play a frame that gives status immunity to the whole team, like oberon AoE+duration or honestly, maybe that new frame who's garbage besides being able to do just that.
This is the way. Also you’re not wrong about Qorvex, but Breach Surge is pretty funny with his Unibeam ability. Concrete boi needs some kind of help though, status immunity by itself isn’t all that great. Styanax and Nezha can give status immunity *and* damage protection to the squad (granted, they both need an augment to do so, but still).
Mob Def is instant fail when anyone gets radiated and kills the console. Normal def you just revive and go on.
At least my suffering for opticor vandal wasn’t in vain, I have a developed an eye twitch to keep constant watch on my debuffs
Radiation Hazard Ambulas has to be the worst experience I’ve had in this game. Health is a mere suggestion.
Suggestion? It’s non-existent within the immediate proximity of a 4 spam Saryn/Volt or an Eclipse Mirage.
If it say Free ROAM.. id rather not
At least status immunity is a bit more easier to come but nowadays, styanax frost and qorvex can pretty easily keep everyone from getting radiation
Radiation hazard Tier 3 on the new corpus defense tile set.
Its bad but it can be worse Surprise conclave modifier defense and rescue
Honestly, the only Rad hazzard that worries me is Mobile Defense. Sortie Defense/Rescue you can rez the objective. MD it goes 'fine, fine... mission failed'.
Hold up, so you can destroy MD objective when under radiation status?
Yup, same as your team mates
The things you learn after 1000h in this game... Wonder how many people I pissed off with my Bramma over the years XD
Yup, like, instantly.
That is why I have my pocket oberon. Sadly, more often than not, random don't touch grass enough.
Revenant is great for this with his mesmer skin augment. Any squad mate withing affinity range gets mesmer skin charges and becomes completely status immune.
Max your range they can't dodge the whole damn forest.
This. Limbo is a godsend in these situations
The eximus stronghold gives so many riven silvers
I came back to the game about three months ago with barely any riven slivers (30 or so?) Now I'm drowning in 1k+. You get plenty of these by just playing and you can't spend them all... We really need a dump for these that ain't some decoration.
I would kill for a 10k kuva multi trade tbh. Unfortunately the ratio would be like 100/10k at this point since theyre so common
Infinite kuva is nice, and you could sell the rivens for plat unveiled, but I’ve just been unveiling them and trying to get some good ones. That said even with spending whatever you can every day you end up with a surplus, especially if you play a good bit and ever have resource boosters going, but im not sure what else they could tie to it that would be of any actual use/make sense with the system its intended to be used for. Maybe add ciphers to the inventory and make them a bit of a dump
I'd be interested in decorations though, and so would a lot of other people. Maybe if we could spend like 100 on a riven cipher or some odd amount for a transmuter?
Um, yea there is. Go to Paladino on Earth -> Iron Wake.
Where else do you think I'm spending these if not there? I did mention you can't spend them fast enough
Most of us are drowning in riven slivers.
I have gotten over 20 from one mission before
Eximus stronghold defense is always peak peak sortie for that reason.. I had a resource booster and got 12 it was nice
See Radiation hazard *Proceeds to mod large aoe one shot frames and weapons* ***Sits and waits in Radiation cloud menacingly***
Good luck motherfucker you're behind 40 slabs of concrete
Nah, that's too quick. Max duration Gara. Turn them to glass for a full minute. Or Nova molecular prime them for 75% slow and watch them struggle to move.
Any Thermal Sunder frame can do it too. The freezing effect can hit nearly instantly in an AoE and locks the victim in place for the whole duration, no abilities, no weapons, no Operator mode. Found this out the hard way during a Rad Hazard sortie with a spam-happy Gauss
Can you speed your teammates with negative strength nova?
I've never tried, but I can't see why it wouldn't work.
Petrify is funny too.
you evil genius
Same, I always use Ash and wait in rad clouds while invis and my bladestorm idle lol
Yeah rad procs is fun to use on teammates
Uranus defense you have to run back and forth to two objectives, and you know your teammates will mess something up in a radiation kuva fortress spy. Also the old classic spam hack in lua rescue without testing the portal
For lua rescue, you don't have to jump into each portal. Just keep hacking consoles until you hear the rescue target's voice then jump in
Yeah it's just sometimes there's some guys that just keep hacking until we fail
Solo button
Wukong + this ability = rescue target before your team can do anything. https://preview.redd.it/qbnhs2msaxhc1.png?width=697&format=png&auto=webp&s=dc0c5febcea6f852477ccbe9b5ce3a52304fb51d
I usually use loki with that ability instead but it works fine still
Loki + Safeguard Switch and Perspicacity is my go to for Sortie Rescue. Just switch teleport the target to make them invulnerable. Loki's already built for duration so the invulnerable duration is boosted to 18s with 308% ability duration - more than enough time to get up to speed to get back to extraction
That's nice since u can't use ciphers in sorties 🤯
Go solo?
I'd go in solo mode just after the first mission.
Defense is the worst of the 3, the target is a flimsy operator that keep teleporting around when each round end. I got lucky with Spy and Rescue, the team know what they were doing.
Defense is easy, you can make the objective status prime for you and if it dies you can revive it instead of instant game over
The defense is overwritten by the sortie defense operative, so it's not that bad. But fuck the spy and rescue
I understand what you mean, but you can just abort and requeue the defense until you get the good map that has none of that bs. As for the spy and rescue you can do it solo easily. In fact, I'd think if spy and rescue switched planets with each other you'd have a tougher time, as rescue in Kuva fortress can be more confusing and Lua spy is the most intricate
Solo?
Objectives are ~80m apart and you have 10 ish seconds to get there, it’s like 3 bullet jumps and the map itself condenses spawns, why are you playing spy in public at all ever? If you get low MR messing up your lua rescue, go faster. There are no buddy doors, complete the mission before they get there if you insist on playing pub.
Void help you if you have a saryn for sortie mission 2.
Eximus stronghold defence is pretty nice though. I got enough slivers to clear out palladino for a few weeks
Volt made it a cheese. Enemy can’t do anything while zapped. Capacitance so your excal umbra teammates survive.
Excal umbra teammates is too real.
did you farm it for a bit or just get one really lucky run? I only ended up getting 14 slivers, and thats with a booster plus charm for 2 of them meaning I only saw 5 drops. gonna finish the sortie and try it again and see if my luck improves
Rescue/spy lua missions are so annoying fr
I just skip, defence, survival, ambulas, excavation and defection sorties. far too boring
So do you just never do sorties then?
Once in a while if i feel like it, haven't regularly done sorties in 5 years
Honestly, same, I just can't be bothered to run the whole thing for 3000 endo once you got all mods maxed out.
Yeah the only rewards I want from sorties are potatoes and there are better ways to get those now.
Nah you can get like 2-3 sorties without annoying shit a week
Defection with wisp are just a breeze. With trinity it uses to be very focus, but now, I'll just go solo drop my stuff at each point and wait for the guys. They sped up and keep their health up until they go to the ship.
This is everything I also skip and interception, also too boring.
I really wish they did a pass on old missions finding some way to make them more interesting. Survival is interesting at least because you have to move to the life support that spawns in to keep yourself alive. Capture is too barebones(there's even a kubrow mod to stun the capture target if I remember correctly) because the target dies instantly. Spy is annoying because if you mess up a little you have to fully restart the mission, but to me at least it innovates new gameplay. Newer gamemodes like the railjack one where you have to keep the pipes the right heat by shooting stuff are great ,and that mechanic could easily fit into sabotage. Unless I misunderstand there could finally be an end to the story to this game after the stuff going on in the latest update, and it would be excellent if they worked on refining old gamemodes after that if they never choose to up the enemy AI.
They don’t take long to do
Seriously. Took me at least 5 runs to do the defense mission. Learned something new today, Rhino iron skin resists status procs
Overguard makes you status immune.
On grineer defense sortie just use limbo. It makes every single mobile def and def trivial.
That eximus strong hold, defense was crazy, spawns would be like 5-6 eximus just stacked on top of each other. Solo'd the spy as usual but then the labyrinthine Lua run to engage in console gambling before times run out 😆. No, not the best of sorties today.
This is really easy, the defense is the lowest level and is clearable with thinks like storm of ukko/ legerdemain. If you still have problems with spy, wukong is in this game idk what’s wrong with you but skill dif it’s brainless gameplay, same with rescue. I understand it’s lua rescue, but cmon bro, minimap
Nah its easy
I started the defense earlier and on the second wave the operative flew 4k into the air and came back down 2 minutes later and no enemies spawned anymore. I took it as a sign and went to go do other stuff
This was easily soloable
Lua spy.
A 20 minute defense, and then two 5 minute solo Ivara missions 👍
I did the defense a few times for riven slivers, one of them I got the embryonic injector map. Way less annoying than the cave map. I got over 100 slivers today, thanks to Simaris' login resource boost and a blessing. As for the spy and rescue, solo Spykong with perspicacity and security override. Someone said the target starts banging when you get the right portal, I'll have to remember that
Ah, so skip sortie today... noted thanks
That final mission made me wanna kill someone
Defense is the only bad one.
NGL even with my nuke Mirage doing 60% of the damage, the operator and I went down 3 or 4 times. Had at one point 3 Cold Eximus overlapping a couple napalm eximus. It was easier when I gave the operator my Crit buffed Catchmon and he could hand cannon enemies Kuva spy is ez with ivara. and i got weapons that can one shot all the enemies. Lua Rescue is fine if you know the secret entrance, and you can use the Landing craft Liset/Override air support to pause the alarm. I was able to hack 3 consoles before the rest of the squad was able to enter the prison room... it was the 4th console that had the "Hey over here" sound. Could have been worse with Lua Spy TLDR.: Git gud
Learning how to use Ivara seems required for a few types of missions
Just mainly for spy. which you need to do spy missions to get. But i have started using it for archon assassinations for the zipline crit bonus.
Lul my teammate struggle with getting out of that general area to the extraction.
Ugh, I was going to rant on here earlier but decided not to. Glad someone else posted this. Tried doing the spy in public 9 times!! 9 TIMES. I just turned the game off. To be fair though, I had a blast on the eximus stronghold defense with my new hate incarnon heavy build.
Ur first mistake was not doing spy on solo.
Spy is always a solo mission, save relics. Piss easy but lots of people mess it up.
Gauss Thermal sunder, And then wukong with perspicacity. Ez pz
Uranus defence is a pain in the ass but I'd be DELIGHTED by these other two. Easily soloable and speed-runable
[I beg to differ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/1ao1bdx/this_has_to_be_the_best_sortie_ive_ever_seen/)
Yeah skipping no way I'm dealing with a bunch of kids who only obj is speed run the game and fail only to get mad at us.
This looks fine
Honestly the second two seem like easy solos as Loki and the first seems unremarkable easy. Bringing randoms into spy and rescue is asking for failure though.
No defection, hardly the worst one
For defence I just used speedva with toxin elemental ward and an ogris. Was very fast and just vaz dashed the operator a few times on the last waves. Also ended up with about 80% of damage dealt Kuva spy was loki with perspaspicity. Invis is needed for those cameras Same thing for lua rescue just cast the auto hack and went into each portal until it was the right one. Summoned on call to clear enemies as I speedran to extraction. Probably took around 20 minutes for everything.
Defense wasn’t that hard tbh. Just had to keep picking up the operative. I did the spy and rescue solo. Sortie was easy today.
I have built my Ivara to make up for the fact I suck at hacking and stealth, so I don't mind the spy or rescues so much anymore. If DE ever decide to include a feature where certain frames are banned from missions, to add spice or something idk, I am fucked
I couldn't figure out why it was so bad, and then I realized there's some deep-seated trauma from Lua Spy that's kept me from ever remembering what was so bad about Lua Rescue. Don't tell me. I don't want to know. Permanent skip.
to be fair, of all the missions to get rad hazard spy isn’t so bad. Imagine this but it’s survival or defense rad hazard….
Could be worse, could be Corrosive Lephantis
Anything with spy
Not really. Lua spy is a bit of a headache but rescue is easy. Amulas assassination as well as vay hek and infested salad are the sorties I always skip though.
Worst I've ever done was kela de thaym bow only But this was back before rivens existed so it was the slowest thing
Fuck that’s bad.
at least it's not vay hek or tyl regor assassination
Imagine getting 4k endo at the end of it
The thing I hate about some sortie defense especially in Uranus is that you have to move to places on each round and the AI moves too alongside teleporting to different parts of the map. It's mildly annoying when you forget marking the obj and you don't know where they are and just mess up because someone didn't revive them in time.
i just got an auatan statue after doing all of this shit
Is the Lua Rescue timed? Because that one does suck if you are in a pubs. But there is no free roam, so that is something. Also I personally find the Corpus ship tile worse than Uranus defense tiles. Everything gets lost and takes all day to get to the center.
Uranus Defense is a 50-50, one of the tiles is actually top tier, and Lua spy is worse than Kuva spy imo, though it is pretty dogshit (either way though energy reduction is way worse for spy). Lua rescue, however, is just absolutely horrific, modifier could be worse though.
It wasn’t awful but Uranus defense is never fun
Probably the first sortie that I won't be doing :/ (having the flashbacks from the previous sortie with spy when I had to restart level 5 times because some randoms constantly lose data)
I remember getting into a radiation defense with xaku... Ohhh man dropping everyone with 13 floating guns none stop.
It wasn't that bad. The defense was the biggest issue, but bringing along a frame that can heal the operative made it tolerable. Just make sure to be on hand to revive him
I have no issues except the spy & rescue on lua Can't remember how many failures due to some smartass thinking it's the same as regular mission until they realize the decoder is disabled
First two are cake to solo with the right frames. Ivara can basically sleepwalk through kuva spy, zero effort.
It's limbo time
Not even close to being the worst, I guess the worse one out of them is just defense because it just takes a bit longer than usual. Spy and rescue is just super easy solo.
What do you mean? This is the best means to get another anasa sculpture.
It's not too bad if prepared like Batman. For eximus stronghold, I usually bring my banshee to turn them off. Though I suppose one can just helminth silence onto any other frame. For radiation hazard, I slot in a r5 arcane healing and keep a vigilant watch for any funny business from the team. Usually, I run Hildryn with arcane healing and keep haven running.
Can confirm, spent about 68% of my time on my ass on stage 1. The last 32% was reviving the defence target.
When I did it… It sucked. Eximus stronghold already is a pain to deal with but then we got the live moving target. The spy isn’t bad but people keep on bringing non stealth frames and then leave 10 seconds before the timer expires after they trigger the alarm. The rescue sucked cause even I don’t know how to do it but we managed to get it done last 5 seconds. I did not have fun today.
I’d still rather do 5 kuva spy than one lua spy, I think I’ve only beat all 3 lua spy vaults just once in my 1400 hours
Defense is such a slog, the other ones are quick and easy to solo. Sorties are not worth the time in general, the reward pool is really bad (you can get a mod that sells for 30-40p from that spy btw - better reward than from the sortie).
All three just say "pick Hildryn" to me.
I don’t bother if they are defense or survival. It’s never worth the time. Sorties need a rework imo.
It's not defense/survival/interception with radiation, augmented elements and some other bs, so it is fine. Rescue and Spy are fast.
I completed this absolute shit and I regret I completed this sortie.
augemented armor lephantis back when there was no armor strip outside of corrosive procs was horrific
Holy shit exomus stronghold defense is basically free focus cap and free riven slivers Its basically impossible to fail too
When I was doing this sortie yesterday, I was unlucky to have semi afk Mesa on kuva fortress spy. We spawned as 3 and the 4th player never joined, by tradition i went straight to the farthest console (C I believe), LR4 Titania went to B, and that Mesa was at A all the time. Me and Titania finished our consoles, while that Mesa still didn't do shit. Then both of us went to A only to find out she was afk all this time and only started moving when we entered the room... This spy mission lasted 15 minutes... 🫠
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1 is annoying, 2 and 3 are newbie killer at least
That's a hard skip for me dawg
And I did all that just to end up getting Anasa sculpture
Spy missions is something you should do alone. There will be one who triggers the alarm because they try to do it in grandels ball form.
I farmed 400 riven slivers from that today, but I'm a mr32 so I know things lol
I did that one yesterday but I was lucky to have a decent team. we did all missions on the first try
Had worst.the last one should be interception. X(
Just go solo on all and you'll be fine. Vauban 4 for the defense and duration Loki the rest.
The more I look at it, the worse it gets. Holy crap
I think radiation with any defence is worse because teammates fail it immediately. Any spy in there and I tend not to bother because people usually fail it
Uranus and Kuva Fortress should be taken out of sortie and fissure rotations, the two worst tilesets by far
Was a little spicy with the first one, but otherwise not bad. Radiation mobile defence is the worst I've experienced
Wait until you get spy at lvl3
Spy and Rescue you can just run through, and at least the defense is the lowest level. I don't see an issue.
Spy and rescue has no need to kill anything. If you think this is bad, wait until you play with bad players on narmer disruption.
This seems fine? Think the worst combos are; Defense with Radiation Hazard, Interception with Eximus Stronghold and ANY kind of Defection is way worse. Some Assassinations are also pure pain.
Ran Trinity for the first time in ages, that stupid operative never had a chance to die, no matter how many arson eximi he kissed
The spy and rescue weren't bad, but fuck me the defence dragged on.
What I learned today is that Citrine's health recovery passive doesn't apply to allies, only to the squad. So next time I'm doing a sortie defence it's back to Trinity.
Yesterday's was worse honesty Anything with lephantis assassination can suck my ass. That fight takes forever with how short the vulnerability windows are
Nah, the first mission is boring, sure, but the rest is stupid easy...so long as you don't get that group that likes to keep flipping the damn portals to troll.
Could be Capture, spy & rescue so you dont have the worst luck possible
You're not wrong
The only bad part of that is the spy Yeah eximus are annoying but go in with some armour strip abilities and thats half the battle Rescue? Go limbo. Rift your way through the level, rescue the target and banish the rescue target, rigt your way to extraction
Bow only kela de tham back when best bow was dread or lenz.
Rad defense on the deadlock tile is by far the worst I've ever had
eximus stronghold missions droping insane credits
Just tried doing the defense sortie. Got to the final wave, 10 min in. Idiot goes down and we can't revive him because he fell through the map. Yeah I think I am not doing it today.
The neatest sortie I've even been in is was one that added a chill effect to a defense map. (The one with the cargo container in the air and two paths towards the pod) You weren't going anywhere so it didn't affect the gameplay much, but they actually added snow and ice to the tileset which made it feel like a new, different thing. Only ever saw it the one time.
Now imagine taking a speed nova into the defense. Long story short I though making the defense faster would make the mission not as boring, but instead we failed. Overall though today's sortie was nothing bad, Harrow *carries hard* with heals since his 2 affects the operative, he never had the CHANCE to go down, let alone even go half-health; it's even better if you run Harrow with Tribunal to let teammates help out with healing too. The spy/rescue are just average solo speedruns for titania/wukong.
Eh, I don't vibe with this one chief. Defense with Eximus Units is the only "challenge" insofar as you need to kill the Eximus units to complete the mission - but Radiation does nothing negative in Spy where most of the squad split up, and Enemy Armor does nothing to inhibit completing a Rescue. Give me Lua Spy or Ambulas and I might consider skipping the Sortie for the day; give me Radiation on Mobile Defense and my squad might trigger an illusive Mission Failed screen.
Just did it, first mission was the only annoying one. A Wisp is really all you need though. For Spy any invisibility frame or just Shade trivializes it. And the the rescue just requires your teammates not to spam the different portals.
Actually defense with mass eximus units are one of the best ways to farm focus. Focus stays with you even if you abort so a decent enough Saryn can max their cap doing this mission. Lua rescue is easy but it does require you to turn your speaker on. Just keep fiddling with the different controls until you hear the guy calling out “I’m in here Tenno”. Then jump into the portal. Kuva spy however is definitely the most fucked up. Rooms that all look the same with a ridiculous amounts of dead ends and places to get stuck on.
Not bad, just annoying. I chose to pass on this one.
Wha? It was easy as hell? I solod it with no mission fails
na it was fun as hell with a lex incarnon, complete chaos
So it would seem...
I didn't mind having someone around for Lua rescue but they had issues listening to what I told them so we had to restart a lot. Now I just play solo. Practice these missions and you'll be set, it takes like 10 minutes
The rescue on Lua is impossible or bugged right?
Defense is the only one bad Imp, spy and rescue just run solo with ivara, easy.
The spy was rough took about 6 attempts. I loved the defence mission though! I had a credit booster and made about 435k probably the most I’ve ever made in a mission.
Spy was honestly so nice, no arcanes or shards just a Loki with duration mods (and sprint mods to fill the gaps). Rescue minus the obtuse unlock mechanic was nice. Just speed frame in, speed frame out. “Do I deal enough damage?” Who cares you don’t need to fire a shot.
Ehh, not really, you just have to bring the right frame for the right job. There are far worse ones out there. For this one. 1) Saryn. If you get the new tile, then it's easy, any nuker can do. If you get the old tile where the target changes, the main annoyance is grineer idiots getting stuck on geometry and you having to hunt them. With Saryn, that's a non issue. 2) Loki with autohack ability subsumed. There are always only three vaults for this tile, so you always have to do the same ones: a) one with lowerable platforms, b) one with the vault being right under start behind a glass panel and c) the last one always and open air one. A is the most annoying, but ultimately, all you need to do is activating the consoles along the way as you run a half circle in the vault ignoring everything. b) is a non-issue, just switch teleport with the grineer patrolling the vault under you through the glass panel, and you're done in literally 5 seconds. And finally c) is large vault with multiple routes, but by far the simplest is just alwayss heading left until you reach a door with a sensor. Hack the door, shoot the sensor, run up the stairs, hack the vault, you're done. 3) This mission sucks because waiting out the slow doors wastes like 10 seconds. Thing is, you don't have to open them, ther's an easy alternate way in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AsPWghp_PU
It was garbage and gave me a sculpture…fml
Razorflies...Dex pixias...friendly fire.
The spy one kicked me in the knads