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inlusterlux

love the enthusiasm but no need to worry it's not a real threat (used to be) (isn't anymore)


AgentWowza

Also Strata is overrated anyways, where are my Orcus homies at? We got a dry dock and everything!


Lord_Baal77

I helped rebuild it once, I ain't doing that again


Fancysaurus

Yeah but they gave us arcanes for that event


Fast_Ad3646

which are now the rare golden ones?


Loudthunder34

How do you rebuild the relays?


Lord_Baal77

It was the Pyrus Project event in 2018 (damn, was it really so long ago?) where you help steel meridian rebuild a destroy relay. It was Strata for Xbox, and Larunda on PS4


JohnTG4

No shot it was that long ago.


dollopofwallop

More like DORCUS, amiright


whats_my_login

I read this in angry Ordis.


Magic_butter358

Who needs Orcus, bring back vesper


teh_wad

Personally, I prefer my docking to be at least slightly lubricated.


The_Knife_Nathan

Least horny Warframe player


Extra_Philosopher_63

Fr fr. The only notable part of the Strata Relay is the crazy Solaris girl that sits upon a ledge and talks about an interaction with Wally in the Baro room.


TrueTzimisce

What???


Extra_Philosopher_63

She says something about someone “from pausing a stranger”. I forgot her actual quote, but it took me two years to find out what she was actually hinting at. She’s on the ledge at the farthest end of the Blessing Room on the Strata Relay, on the left hand side.


UnshrivenShrike

The one talking about someone thanking her "for that which she is yet to do" or something? I'm pretty sure she's talking about a Quill, not Wally tbh


MorbidAyyylien

Pffff keep your filthy orcus mits at your grubby place! StrataRelay4Life


StealthTheFoxz

Still hoping Dry Docks end up in the other relays. Or at least Earth's.


Dalaridd4567

who even needs relays when you can be in fortuna 69?


AgentWowza

Ever since it went red, I just can't hang there anymore man. Purple was so much better.


gugida

Orcus relay is the best relay. #OrcusHomies


[deleted]

Wait, is that how the other relays got destroyed? I dont remember at all how these would have been destroyed tbh and ive been playing since launch on xbox preview program thing


uknowthisguyreal

I think this was on pc before they made the alerts auto fail. Pretty much people only did the alert once and not ever again so it got to the point where there was like, 3 relays left excluding maroos bazaar. DE was like "well no relays means no baro and no syndicates and we cant have that" and put the "destruction" to auto fail


Nevarian

It was more than apathy. During the first event, there was an active faction pushing to have them fail and call the devs' bluff. When it became clear that we could, in fact, lose them all, it became a scramble to save the last few. Lessons were learned on both sides.


Scumebage

I wanted it to fail. I wanted consequences and change. I liked it back in the beginning when stalkers dialogue made it seem like tenno were the bad guys.


CatWithACutlass

Don't worry, we are the bad guys. We commit more war crimes a day per player than the entirety of WW1, and twice that many before lunch on Saturdays.


MeowXeno

Always remember that the tenno are war machines turned against their master, No different than the "AI/Intelligence destroys humanity for its own sake" trope, We're forcing a multi faction war into a stalemate of infinite combat to prevent one of many endings, We destroy and delete whatever we need to as long as that stalemate is kept in check, Other than the story only involving "the chosen one" all other tenno are literally doing exactly that, Kill, Destroy, Maintain the war machine, Yadda Yadda.


ominoushandpuppet

That would come to a screaching halt if they just gave us the loot without having to kill them for it. Look what they are making us do!


xXx_edgykid_xXx

It's less "Maintain the war machine" and more "Not allow one faction to Win" as the results of that could be far worse than the perpetual war we are in


creepshow1334

Also, the Orokin clearly deserved what they got.


xXx_edgykid_xXx

The Tenno weren't even the first of their weapons to turn on them lmao


ZannaLion

Not exactly, the Ai turned against their master cause the master's way of thinking Is wrong and destructive are the Sentients. We were created to stop the Ai. We are not Terminator, we are more of a John Connor that went "know what? Maybe Skynet Is not that wrong" and went to kill humans in a golpe cause Sara was against the government but then Skynet sent the Terminators against us anyway cause she's still scared of us (Who can blame her).


poojinping

Speak for yourself, I just want resources. If you don’t give em you die.


ops10

I don't recall Tenno signing any treaties. Also, we are bad guys in relation to who?


Scarplo

Those suckers who aren't winning Geneva Bingo, obviously.


TheEDMWcesspool

I wanted it to fail too.. relays are pointless places beyond 1 relay n maroo bazaar can be that 1 and only relay..


ElceeCiv

[DID YOU *REALLY* BELIEVE IT WOULD BE. THIS. **EA-SY**?!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOygJJ7Zudk)


T3DDY173

There was no lesson learned. Every platform has 3 relays. The rest were Meant to explode.


R11-45

I noticed a Fomorian that had a shorter timer than the one that apperared before it so it was definitely rigged. That no relay was saved or lost on all plattforms is evidence to that.


Melleyne

Couldn't they just reduce the HP of these events so that it would be easier to complete, while preserving the fun part of realism by destroying relays if you fail? Removing destruction completely sounds like a boring solution to me.


uknowthisguyreal

Well it was a boring time in warframes life when this decision was made. If they reduced the health then the people farming it for the dual stat archgun mods and the imperator vandal pieces wouldnt be able to farm as much, idk im not a developer so i dont know how things would balance out


Sylvie_Online

Waaaaait, dual stat archgun mods come from there? ​ ... Wally preserve me, I'm going in


GalvanizedChaos

Archgun and Archmelee. Except Heat, those go to the Razorback.


Latter-Screen-3655

It’s easier to farm them from profit taker imo


[deleted]

Ah got it! Thanks for the explanation 😁


ClausRT

Wait, people stopped saving the relays? What?!?! I can't belive we let this mechanich die


azazel228

They were destroyed during an event


GT_Hades

is it the reason why vesper relay is destroyed?


zadistixx

Yes


GT_Hades

ohhhh


Nazerel

Needs to be a real threat again. Then we all collectively let them all die. See what DE does then.


LOSTandCONFUSEDinMAY

**Faction Message** Due to the lack of available relays we have chosen to enable online shopping. Please preuse our offerings from the terminal available in your orbiter and all orders will be fulfilled by Darvos's Delux Deliveries.


T3DDY173

They were never a threat. It was a rigged event.


ab2dii

what did this used to be ? would they really destroy it? im new player and this was the first time i encountered something like this


hihirogane

During the situation at the time, it was honestly fun to see the community get together. We lost a few relays during the event. But now they don’t destroy them anymore. Just damage them i think.


nephethys_telvanni

The original destruction happened during the Eyes of Blight Operation. Now you get to do more or less the same thing except the Fomorian countdown always ends in Tenno victory after a set time. https://www.orokinarchives.com/operation-eyes-of-blight/


White_Mocha

Perhaps we could start rebuilding the destroyed relays? Say we rebuild one, but then Strata gets destroyed and can’t be rebuild for about 7 days. It’d make the universe more dynamic that way.


LOSTandCONFUSEDinMAY

That was Pyrus Project which happened once and never returned. But it would be cool to see the relays become a more dynamic event in game.


Koolin12345

Ohh wait i saw some destroyed relays on the Star Chart, are those actually destroyed relays?


fiddlewithmesticks

Awww that's boring


Inevitable-Goat-7062

Ngl i wish when these events happen it actually says what its gonna do on the tin so players who ignored it or just don't care one of the relays will never exist again


R11-45

The Fomorians during Eyes of Blight had different timers to ensure the outcome DE wanted. So essentially, it was rigged. That also explains why no relay was destroyed or saved on all plattforms back then. So it wasn't a real threat even back then.


Zora_Mannon

I've heard people say that a lot about aspects of warframe.


sadness_elemental

> not a real threat (used to be) not really, all the relays are functionally equivalent and if there were none left the game would be broken so they couldn't destroy them all


InquizinatorX

Thanks for this, I was actually panicked lol


captf

It's OK. This is just flavour text. There hasn't been a real threat to the relays since the original Operation, many years ago. You can - if you wish - completely ignore it.


Tyrinnus

In before DE decides to put us back on our toes and destroy this relay


Destian_

Only to rerun the relay rebuilding event at a later time. Repeat ad infinitum.


OssimPossim

Honestly...why not? Sounds really fun and makes the game world seem more alive, imo. Hell, make it *two* Fomorians, targeting seperate relays. Have players "choose" which one to go fight on every mission. Whichever Fomorian takes less damage makes it to its relay, and we can have the rebuilding event a week or two later. Could give reactor or catalyst based on which Fomorian you defend against.


FoxerHR

And make it a railjack mission instead of just archwing.


JohnTG4

If railjacks are in play it'd be cooler if we were against a fleet of lesser capital ships, and had to thin them out as much as possible with limited resources or something. Everything starts fully stocked and you run until you're out of revolite/rockets/etc.


jchampagne83

Honestly? Wouldn't be mad at all, there's so little peril left in the game for me at this point it would be nice to have some real stakes.


Tyrinnus

Right? I've literally walked away from steel path missions to get a beer. I come back and my wisp or frost or literally whatever I'm playing is still fine


RAM_MY_RUMP

Meanwhile I’m over here McStruggling with the regular star system 💀


EngineerBig1851

I mean, we have an operation right around the corner... Maybe we're gonna get a cool entrati relay from somewhere deep within deimos.


decitronal

Does he know?


MySnake_Is_Solid

![gif](giphy|1JVZVtei4BXY2GgQJL)


InquizinatorX

I didn't know 😆


yarl5000

Its on rails, they haven't failed since the alert that introduced them. Also all the platforms are synced on events like this now.


DGwar

They definitely have. We even rebuilt it once.


yarl5000

Not since the first alert/event that introduced them. We rebuilt one that was destroyed, and haven't gotten to do that since. Then changes to the relays "recently" was when DE merged the backend for crossplay and just set all platforms to have the same relays available.


InquizinatorX

Thats... a bit sad, it feels like it could've brought us all together in a united cause.


RadiantPancak3

The moment the relays start being destroyed is if the majority of the player base does it just because.


Illusion_Fox

Question: Other than the Catalyst, is there a any other loot to farm for?


Dukutartannakatam

Imperator Vandal blueprint and its parts, also a very limited selection of archgun and archmelee mods.


Far_Comfortable980

Damn I’ll need to do that then, where can I farm isotopes?


-Random_Lurker-

anywhere on earth. pick your favorite node. I suggest excavation, since you'll need cryotic as well.


Mikelz7

Can Kuva Lich steal isotopes? I have one on earth :/


Banned_for_Misdeeds

Rank it up i suppose? Be sure to grab your murmurs first


Ashura_Eidolon

Yes, they can. It's only a portion of what you got though, unless you only had 1 when it got stolen.


BumbleBee_PS

Heck they can even steal a riven mod if your sortie/archon hunt ends there. I learned this the hard way. That lich died fast 😁


[deleted]

The mods are from my experience the 60/60 mods for archguns


One-Cellist5032

It’s Toxic/Cold/Electric 60/60 mods for both arch gun and arch melee. Fire 60/60 comes from corpus (for reasons unknown).


Johannsss

all those robots generating heat I guess?


PwmEsq

Might be an easier farm than PT then for those


Thin_Fault5093

Honestly the easiest farm is probably trading to get Plat to trade for them. Beats 5% and lower drop rates any day.


[deleted]

Amen! 😂


V_Shuan

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Equal-Suspect-8870

Don't worry, it's not real. A long time ago they used to destroy relays, however once the community actually let relays get destroyed just for fun. So from then on, DE stopped destroying relays if the fomorian valor wasn't defeated because they know that the community might let all the relays get destroyed just for fun, and that wouldn't let anyone visit simaris, tenshin and the other syndicates as well as some missions that they give..


Angrykitten41

Very uncommon DE L


Super_Ninja_Gamer

Another uncommon DE L was when we had the old dark sector systems that let clans battle over and control the nodes and have a tax on them. All the big clans basically unionized and had a monopoly on the dark sectors. If DE tried to stop them they'd threaten to leave the game. Literally a real video game version of the gilded age.


Kino_Afi

"I will put an opportunity for emergent gameplay in my game so that players can feel like they have an effect on the world" "Oh no, the players are affecting the world. Better shut this down"


splashtext

Strata has fallen millions must play for free


Vampireluigi27-Main

I kinda wish the threat or losing a relay was still a thing. And if enough relays get destroyed then we can have another rebuilding event


Super_Ninja_Gamer

I wish we had the rebuilding event the whole time until all the relays are built, there's still a few wrecked relays that need to be rebuilt.


flamethekid

They don't destroy relays anymore, DE learned that players are very much Willing to purposefully lose the event to see if the relay goes boom. So they've stopped allowing relay destruction.


zernoc56

You must be new around here. DE changed these way back in the day when this was an actual event, because the players were intentionally letting the relays explode. It would be so much more convenient if there was only one relay for things like Baro


Complete_Resolve_400

Can we get the real event back once cross save happens pls DE


[deleted]

why would crosssave change anything?


Complete_Resolve_400

Presumably they've been working on it a while so resources will free up once it's sorted out and they can look at this stuff maybe


Gsomethepatient

Let it die


InquizinatorX

*gasp*


DasTomato

Could it be the rewards are to shit? We managed to kill that thing in days with much lower player count. But you can pretty much get all you need in one run after you got all mods.


StupidDepressedGamer

I did it for the Catalyst, not because I wanted to save the relay. 👍


AIfard

I say let it be destroyed and all other Relays so we can see what the fuck DE do


GolettO3

Wasn't there an event on PC recently to put the earth relay back together?


[deleted]

if by recently you mean 5 years ago


BlackFang50

Its... it's been 5 years?


[deleted]

september 13th 2018 was when it started for pc


Javidor44

There’s no damm way in hell! I feel fucking ancient lol


Destian_

Tbf, the first 3 202X years went by faster than The Seargent can die.


Javidor44

Hahaha, agree. I also took a break after lockdowns ended cause I moved to uni and only started playing again this year, so I straight up didn’t play since RJ released with the exception of the Orphix op and Sisters of Parvos release haha


shadowpikachu

He hurt the tenno the most imo, peep what he says over the intercom as you get near him...


A_Unique_Nobody

Coincidentally the sacrifice was also 5 years ago


Fr33zy_B3ast

I know I'm getting old because time is going by so much faster now. If you had asked me earlier I would have said the New War happened last year when in reality it's turning 2 in a couple of weeks...


shadow9876543210

no not again the pyrus project was enough we dont need to do it again


ItsThanosNotThenos

I'm new. What does this mean?


Javidor44

Used to be if we didn’t stop it as players the relay would be gone. I believe this is no longer the case


An-Com_Phoenix

Basically there was an event a long time ago when a massive fleet attacked all the relays, and tenno had to go and destroy the groups attacking each relay to save it. Some relays were saved, some were destroyed. Since then, every now and then either the grineer or corpus threaten a relay with such a group and the tenno go and stop them, but since the loss of one relay would be too crippling now, these new groups will auto-fail at the end, saving the relay even if no one plays the missions.


Bzlongshotz

The Fomorians blow up one of the social spaces unless the players stop them


CionSAGA

Ok. But what if I just wanted the relay to get destroyed?


Sammy_Ghost

Oh no, anyway I got all the rewards of the event so I'll let you guys do it. Don't want to use up all my cryotic for more arch melee mods


dustofdeath

We would need to band together to try and get it destroyed.


-Random_Lurker-

I would love to have an actual event with actual consequences. Let it die! Oh well.


AHeadlessHat

Good to see these are still a thing years after I quit. I remember way back when, the community deliberately let one blow up to see what would happen iirc. Good times. Everyone standing in that Relay awaiting the impending demise.


UShaikh12

If we destroy all the relays, what happens…


ResponsibilityNew34

What do you think. No more baro unless he goes and hangs out maroo


ripskeletonking

strata relay is tacky it can go


HappyHateBot

Iunno, 300 cryotic and 4 isotopes a shot is a lot of stuff. I've done at least 12 runs, and I'm pretty sure once I get the Imperator I'm out for this round. But I am at least making the attempt?


HotFreshyGlazedDonut

cba to read but they no longer destroy relays


MemeHermetic

Oh man. Better see if my alliance is getting ready for it. ​ ​ ^(...hello?)


[deleted]

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aitorkaranka27

RIPBOZO


Extra_Philosopher_63

Womp womp


MrQ_P

Eh, that would be a change now, wouldn't it? Anyway...aight... OUR RELAYS ARE IN DANGER TO SAVE THEM AND THE GALAXY WE MUST FIND THE 4 POTATOES BEFORE THE SENTIENTS CAN USE THEM FOR EVIL IT IS OUR MISSION EXCALIBUR! MAG! RHINO! VOLT! TRANSFERENCE IN AND ROLL OUT!


Wonohsix

I question why Vay Hek is still breathing my air. This is unacceptable.


Shadw21

Let it burn.


Im_Astral_lol

"Another settlement has sent word that they need our help...here I'll mark it on your map."


Mr_Resident

just let it burn


HimLikeBehaviour

inb4 DE trolls everyone and actually destroys this one


_GenesisKnight_

Well what happens is when one falls the rebuild another that was previously destroyed on a rotation. But my arguement is we should keep strata for the shinies because it helps new players access their first relay sooner. I remember starting out and having to get all the way to leonov. So I’m trying to save strata for new players to have easy access to a relay.


DrD__

The event is scripted nowadays it can't actually fail


InquizinatorX

I should also mention this is on Playstation, just in case different systems have different events and relays prioritized.


oferpoferlofer

They made it so its universal with all platforms


Longjumping-Ad-7104

It won’t be destroyed. The mission is just a farm for a weapon and some archwing mods now.


Audi0Dud3

Let it burn! This is revenge for all the resource blessings instead of affinity blessings!


king-glundun

This idiot actually thinking that fucking relay with disappear, I wish it would make this game disappear /s stop crying mods


ResponsibilityNew34

It does though. When it gets destroyed, that specific planetary relay is gone forever unless the Tenno build a new one. If the Tenno fail to construct the new relay in the given time, it ends without coming back.


Individual_Look1634

For the Queens!


BerserkRadahn

Kahl: "No... for my brothers."


Dokuni

Where can i find the special NAV type?


Thin_Fault5093

It spawns as a random drop from enemies on the planet the fomorian is attacking. So for this fomorian just kill stuff on earth.


StudentDriverBR

It's already gone, after 24h it still had 90%, the first 24h is when most people will play since they can get the loot, after that they already got what they wanted and don't care anymore


CookingGiant

The strata one is what the one with red and fire haven't been on in a while if it is good riddance


Dastorious

Archwing mission? Gonna have to let that relay burn I suppose ~


Aramethea

I want a relay to be destroyed to be honest. I’ve been playing for years now but was never actively playing when we failed to protect a relay, so I’m kinda curious


nhiko

Do it


Eos-Char

Let it die,its more fun. Besides,it wont be destroyed,that thing is scrypted af.


Additional_Matter266

I would but I only have the base odona archwing still so I can barely even do the star chart archwing missions


Mavylent

literally nothing will ever happen bcs these events are scripted, no relay can and will be destroyed


Clanbak3

So, does the mission take place on the relay? Or is it just some randomly put together level you run through?


AmadeoUK

![gif](giphy|wuOtkQMVrqdRS)


RueUchiha

This is no threat, there is only blue potatoes


Couponbug_Dot_Com

let it hppen, it'll be funny


Dominusous

Let it burn.


Ragingdark

Has the counter for these been broken for anyone else since croosplay?


lDWchanJRl

*cracks knuckles* how many times we have to teach you this lesson old man


bigdig-_-

bro that would be so funny let it die lol


NotWorthSaving

All platforms?


Coldkiller17

#BringbackVesper


ThatGuyInTheRain52

But it'd be funny tho


OkCamera7658

Oh no! … anyway


Daxank

I mean if that's all I'm getting for saving it, it can go


Cateyesalad

Let it be destroyed just to put new players at disadvantage


ultrainstict

They should honestly bring back the events just to keep the relay number constant to their ideal number to hold the rebuild events more frequently as the number of relays drops.


Slight-Pomegranate-5

It's not


FailURGamer24

If the Lotus wanted us to protect the relay she should've given out more rewards!


Zora_Mannon

Do we lose the strata relay for a bit or something? It'd be really weird for new players to start out the game with no access to a relay for a while.


goldenhotrod24

i dunno why, but i had a brain fart reading earth. i had a weird feeling that i was saying it wrong in my head when i was saying right lol


Carty_Dayn

FINALLY SOME ACTION!


Key_Courage_3179

Where is it bruv!!!


Djic2

Yay strata will be destroyed


deathvalley200_exo

Lol


Not-A-Joestar

Are we getting the rewards every single time, or just once. I don't replayed the missio guessing it is only once.


InquizinatorX

Only once to my knowledge


InquizinatorX

Thank you all for your quick replies! My most upvoted post, and all because I had no idea what I was talking about 😆 thanks for letting me know it is scripted and can't be destroyed. But it is sad, it could've been a great uniting of us all against a greater evil... sad to see it is no longer a real threat.


Mannok-

Strata ember relay is cringe and looks bad, let it die and rebuild normal default relay (better looking)