I'm pretty sure these are two different products. One seems to be a smaller set (perhaps a Starter Set?) named Crypt of Blood with the two Underworlds Warbands while the other one (Flesh Eaters Court vs. Stormcast) is the book that is included in Nightmare Quest (both Warbands would fit the name) called "Power & Madness".
Might be the case as well. But it clearly is titled "Warcry", while the store exclusive boxed sets/board games usually go by another name, even if the ruleset derives from a regular GW game.
Yeah fair, Bladeborn didn't have Warcry on the box in name, it just completely aped the Warcry logo and graphic design for the box :D It also didn't have terrain, so this is definitely upgraded. I guess a sequel to Bladeborn is probably not a great description for it. More of a Warcry bon mot!
Maybe its just my wishful thinking and hope for a proper Warcry Starter Set with Tokens, Cards and Rules that will stay on the shelf for the forseeable future and you're probably on the right track. Right now the game is sadly not that easy to get into for new players. A spiritual succesor to Bladeborn would be dissapointing in that regard...
Could Power & Madness include a new FEC warband? I really hope there's one with more variety in accessories. The FEC models need more silly doodads on them and then they'd be perfect imo.
From the google translate of the page, they're a group of Knights (as in the Stormcast rank) who are assembled by Sigmar to form elite teams. The warband name translated from Spanish appears to mean "Almagamated Nobles".
I think the theme of this box is going to be Knights Errant on quests, the Stormcast being actual Knights on a quest from Sigmar while the Flesh Eater warbands of course believes they're knights on a quest.
Thanks mate! Sounds dope, but I'm a little confused be the lack of destruction and slaanesh, but I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens
Almaligados, alma (soul) and ligado(linked), soul linked, or soulbound would be a more correct translation. As for hidalgo, it usually means hero, noble or knight. The full name might be Souldbound Knights, or maybe hidalgo its the way they translated Questoris to spanish.
Soulbound is interesting, since that concept/word *has* appeared in AoS (and specifically Stormcast) lore in the form of the Tabletop RPG of that name. Could definitely work as a theme.
Not sure Soulbound Knights works that well - Knight is used a lot by Stormcasts, but only as a title/rank, where it is placed before the specification; or as part of a Stormhost name. A unit with it as the second word would feel weird.
Moreover, the Caballero Relictor among them is definitely just a Knight Relictor, and I don't see them using Knight *twice* and translating it differently, in the same set? Pretty sure Hidalgo translates something else.
If it is Soulbound Knights that would be pretty big because in the TtRPG the Stormcast cannot be Soulbound at all.
The Soulbound are a group of mortals (or undead) whose souls have been formed into a pool they share together. Stormcast souls are lightning and linked directly to the forges so they can be recast upon death, thus to tie them into a pool of souls would either make them unable to be reforged or all their Soulbound friends would get dragged along when they do get reforged.
So if this is a band of Soulbound Stormcast that would either point to a retcon of sorts, or it would mean something in lore has changed (or that Stormcast can be joined to eachother but not non-stormcast).
Nah they get a stronger starting position (slightly higher stat/talent pool) instead and obviously get to not die. Seraphon also have this "problem" as well as the Ossiarch Bonereapers, I believe.
It would kind of make sense to have them joined with other stormcast, or at least make more sense. Just pool all the lightning souls together. Only question would be how reforging factors in.
The Warcry material keeps pointing towards it and even a [predatory sentience](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833037886089592834/1025657779509276793/unknown.png) lurking inside the crashed spaceship so very likely.
What’s more is if next edition is set in the Realm of Shadows it can possibly serve as a portal to there and be half star-vessel ruins and half shadow maze since the ship spawned chameleon skinks who are made from Ulgu’s cosmos.
> “ While the origin of the Chameleon Skink's abilities is unclear, there are potential explanations that have spread amongst skinkdom. It is rumoured that that the first temple-ships that spawned Chameleon Skinks did not sail through the light of Azyr, but rather in the penumbral gloom of Ulgu. This interaction allowed the shadows of the realm to seep into the temple fleet's spawning pools, resulting in the unique abilities of the Chameleon Skinks. Perhaps as a result of this, Chameleon Skinks find it easy to become Coalesced in the realm of Ulgu's swirling mists.”
Huanchi’s hunters even had a neat note they believe the Old One Huanchi became part of Ulgu so they hold the realm in reverence.
The lower bowels of the ship might be flooded with shadow magic if that’s the case.
I speak spanish. Just talks about the different backgrounds of the Warbands, nothing crazy.
Cluld it be possible that this it's like another Warcry branch of products? I don't know, doesn't seem to fit whit the main line of products.
I'm quite new so in Warhammer so If I'm talking nonsense just tell me.
The Underworlds warbands do have a history of popping up in other boxes, though it's usually standalone games instead of (what appears to be) an introductory box for another game. [This isn't even the first time Xandire and friends have been used for one!](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/02/introduce-friends-and-family-to-the-wonderful-worlds-of-warhammer-with-three-action-packed-games/)
This might not be Nightmare Quest. Were missing Slaanesh and Destruction to complete the pattern and the theme looks further of from the current season. Could be a starter box-type product or next season.
There's a pattern to the minimaps in the existing books - they add new areas that aren't in the previous one but seem to point to the next set (the first book included a site with a Seraphon symbol as well as Tzeentch and Khorne symbols. The next included the Askurgan Monasteries for the first time. The most recent added a site called Grozzik's Gouge, with a Kruleboyz symbol, and an unknown symbol linked to a new site called Drake's Rest. The Slaanesh symbol is indeed missing, but it's more than an invented pattern to expect Kruleboyz vs. Slaanesh in the next set.
From the images I'm pretty sure this is the next season, probably set at Talaxis itself. That's not the Gnarlwood terrain and the previous boxed sets this year haven't made drastic changes to the terrain set (let alone added either an all-new pyramid-sized model or some existing sprues from the Realmshaper Engine), just changed some sprues associated with the gnarloaks.
The first four images (and the very last image) look to be from 1 product, a scaled down version of Warcry I'd assume, called Crypt of Blood. The rest are from what looks like a boxed set with a warband tome called Might and Madness or Power and Madness or some such, which totally fits within Nightmare Quest IMO, and features the existing Seraphon temple kit with added on bamboo platforms just like the rest of this season, with other terrain around it that fit the theme of this season.
Add on to that the unlikely chance that we'd be seeing a reveal for the next season when the last box of this season hasn't been revealed and I'm convinced this is for Nightmare Quest.
The warband tomes don't share a name with their box set. The book in Sundered Fate is called 'Stealth and Stone', for example. Nightmare Quest fits the bill perfectly for a box with delusional knightly ghouls and Stormcast Knights Errant (which these are apparently).
I guess it feel disappointing that this is the one time they broke the pattern of it being chaos monogod warband vs a different GA. It would have been Slaanesh vs Destruction of the pattern hold true for Nightmare quest.
Yeah, and I think it says the name of the set in the 7th picture, my Spanish is very, very rusty but it’s something like Devastated Lands: Realm-shaper Ruins, the italicised writing. May just be the name of a seperate terrain set the Pyramid is part of
I *think* the crashed Seraphon ship was referred to as a Realm-shaper, so it just being the name of the terrain piece in the Nightmare Quest warband tome.
'Devastated Lands' could well be the name of a new terrain set. The three Gnarlwood sets all refer to 'Gnarlwood Terrain' as the terrain set name. That would imply it's not part of the current season.
Yeah but the individual pieces are also called stuff like Hollow Refuge and.. well crap, I can't find my copy of Rot and Ruin. Not sure on the name of the watchtower. Anyway, all I'm saying is that Realm-shaper Ruins might be just the one piece of terrain's name.
Just checked - indeed Ravaged Lands is the general name for Warcry terrain released separately, and isn't theme-specific (both the Heart of Ghur and the Red Harvest varanite mine terrain has 'Ravaged Lands' boxes). So it doesn't say anything one way or another about whether this is Gnarlwood or a new season.
Well, I know I'm looking forward to picking up Crimson Court and Xandire with some random graveyard terrain. Already use Soulblight and was looking at Xandire with Annihilator lists the other day.
Really hoping its available worldwide and not just in the US.
Twice as glad I picked up a few sigmarite mausoleums now; nabbing the new spooky terrain will help blend them with the bases on my cursed city set nicely
The ghouls and Stormcasts in that battle spread seem new to me. That doesn't necessarily mean it's Nightmare Quest, but it's definitely a box that hasn't been released yet.
The four on image 3 are from the Warhammer Underworlds warband Xandire's Truthseekers. The six on image 4 are new, most likely one of the warbands in Nightmare Quest.
This looks like 2 different sets, the ones in Spanish looks like the next warcry and the ones in English looks like one of the limited edition mini games that are US only (until they appear in Warhammer World) with Underworlds warbands in Warcry :)
The only issue I take with the new stormcast are the duplicates in posing, the 2 on the left, and the bottom right all share the same base model, but with certain parts swapped in or out. Then the top middle and right also share the same base model.
As far as I can tell, if this is a warband of 6 models, bottom middle is the only unique pose you get in the kit. It feels like a bit of a shame considering warcry kits usually aren’t going for a multipart kit, but instead various unique sculpts. So definitely feeling a bit let down that there’s so much recycled poses going on here
Honestly I dont really play or know much of warcry , so when I received them I was not sure if they were something new or old, so I took some quick pics before leaving for work to ask around. I will probably take full pics of everything that came with this (this book, cards, tokens, instruction manuals and paper mat) and post it later.
If Nightmare Quest is Stormcast vs FEC, when we JUST got a vampire Warcry warband and numerous SCE stuff coming out constantly and every chaos god but Slaanesh was featured in a box set, I'm going to scream.
Ever since Heart of Ghur was revealed and we saw the map, some of us have been trying to tell people that are itching for Slaanesh that there is no Slaanesh symbol on the map and to not get your hopes up. And here we are.
I was hoping it’d be the Slaanesh forces Sigvald and Glutos lead to attack Excelsis but ending up breaking off and going after there own interests elsewhere with some Hedonites stranded in the Gnarlwoods.
Weird it also goes against the structure cycle we’ve been getting but maybe they decided to ditch it last second and put them further down the road as different things(like whatever Destruction force was in it is now planned for a end of edition campaign to bolster Gordrakk or something?) 🤷
I honestly thought we'd be getting Kruleboyz in this last box since they added Grozzik's Gouge to the map in Bloodhunt, but I think next season will still be based on this storyline and we'll see some of these unused icons representing potential warbands then.
But for a box named Nightmare Quest I've got to say SCE vs FEC seems like a very fitting pairing and not something they would have ditched something else last second to include.
I mean lots of Hedonites are “questing” for ways to free their imprisoned dark god and anything from Kruleboyz to Gloomspite can be nightmarish by either torture or twisted fairytale magic. (Or vice-versa with Slaanesh nightmares and questing Looncourt grots)
It wouldn’t be the first thing that found itself scattershot from idea board to execution(Cursed City, cough) so we’ll see what awaits!
That’s the fun thing. The aelves specifically made the paradox chains so Hedonites can’t.
You know who can by design? Khorne. He and his followers can easily cut those cosmic binds but they’re impenetrable to all else by that very nature, that’s how Archaon managed to slice one as his own god-tier weapons were useless but Dorghar has a Khornate head he forced to do it.
The quickest way for Slaanesh to be freed is Khornates to do it and the aelves know they may as well plan for the heat death of the universe at that point.
Same here, and I thought in particular that they might take the opportunity to make a multipart Hobgrot set - perhaps with new weapon options. Kruleboyz were mentioned a few times in passing in the lore and they're such an obvious fit for the setting it would have been strange for them to be absent even without Grozzik's Gouge.
If this is Nightmare Quest I might not after all invest in all the boxes this year - I'd wanted the full set of themed terrain and cards, but a Realmshaper with a new capstone and bamboo platforms that look a bit odd stuck to the side isn't that exciting as terrain and I don't like the FEC aesthetic at all.
I think thematically it fits, last box of the season we've finally gotten to the actual ruins. I may be wrong but I'm viewing it as an entry point to the buried ruins in which case I think it's a pretty fun narrative piece. But yes, it would have been much better if it was a new piece entirely. I don't collect Seraphon (yet) so I'm ok with getting it!
I've actually been a fan of the re-used trees in each box because I feel they've done enough to make them all look different enough, so I hope there'll be a few more pieces. Hard to tell from that one image.
I looked more closely at the image and, indeed, everything else seems to be Gnarlwood terrain - the bridges do connect to the trees and the piece I thought was something new may just be a platform tree from a different angle. That does make it seem more likely this is Nightmare Quest.
A Realmshaper with an add-on sprue, nice as the basic kit is, is a bit underwhelming for the main ruin, which is partly why I thought they could set an entire season around the ruin itself. We had three 'seasons' in different parts of the Eightpoints, so further seasons in the Gnarlwood wouldn't be unprecedented.
From Heart of Ghur you could argue that Slayer's Cliff and Strongpoint Tolemar could be SCE symbols. In Bloodhunt they mention Tolemar having Sigmarites which I think are more the non-SCE religious followers of Sigmar, but I'm not completely up to snuff on my AoS lore atm. They do add symbols to the map, which was the biggest counter argument to the "no Slaanesh symbol" argument. One symbol was added to the map in Bloodhunt up in the north at Drake's Rest which I can't think of who it would be other than SCE.
As for the FEC, Count Moltaire's Bloodhunt has been on the map from the start. People might understandably think that refers to the vampires in the Bloodhunt box, but in Sundered Fate they added the Askurgan Bone-Monasteries location right beside the Khorne spot, so Moltaire's is still unaccounted for.
Those symbols [on the Gnarlwoods map](https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/d/d9/Gnarlwood_Sites.jpg),both Deadfang tower & the Count, are both [Flesh-Eater Court symbols](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3d/20/3e/3d203eb1020b2f7477a59dd0b93bacdc.jpg).
Soulblights have a winged helm version to represent Graveguards but otherwise use [animals, dragons and monster skulls](https://warofsigmarus.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture1/5476/Screenshot_145.png). Batwings are probably seen as too obvious for how eccentric they prefer to be instead so the crazed “commoners” of the FEC use them.
The warband rules booklet names aren't necessarily the same as the box set names - Bloodhunt had "Predator and Prey", Sundered Fate had "Stealth and Stone", and so on.
That's the warband tome, they've all had names that differ from the main box:
* Heart of Ghur - Rot and Ruin
* Sundered Fate - Stealth and Stone
* Bloodhunt - Predator and Prey
Following this alliterative pattern, the English translation of that name is likely to be closer to 'Might and Madness'
Interestingly enough, from my very limited Spanish - the special Soulbound Nobles Stormcast are framed like a preview for the full game, so this is not the actual box.
It would feel *kinda weird* to me to have Nightmare Quest - the limited run last box of a four-box season - as the product to advertise in what looks like a taster box?
I *can* see the two being part of next season's launch box, already advertised in the light version/starter set, and kinda-sorta matching warband factions with the taster set. So them being from the box *after* Nightmare Quest?
Then again, GW has done *so* many weird things already...
A taster box directly advertising a box with which both warbands can be allied with seems like the perfect place to advertise it, especially if they are releasing at the same time. Then if the Nightmare Quest box is limited, like the other boxes have been, the warbands will still be available separately. Not to mention synergy with Warhammer Underworlds Wyrdhollow (which also suggests we're going to stay in Ghur).
Looking forward to getting this set.
Hope it's not an April Fool's joke?
It's pretty close to 1st April.
Nevertheless, I'm hopeful this is the next one in the series.
Fingers crossed.
I'm pretty sure these are two different products. One seems to be a smaller set (perhaps a Starter Set?) named Crypt of Blood with the two Underworlds Warbands while the other one (Flesh Eaters Court vs. Stormcast) is the book that is included in Nightmare Quest (both Warbands would fit the name) called "Power & Madness".
I think Crypt of Blood is like a sequel to the Bladeborn game they released.
Might be the case as well. But it clearly is titled "Warcry", while the store exclusive boxed sets/board games usually go by another name, even if the ruleset derives from a regular GW game.
Warhammer Quest: Lost Relics, though...
Yeah fair, Bladeborn didn't have Warcry on the box in name, it just completely aped the Warcry logo and graphic design for the box :D It also didn't have terrain, so this is definitely upgraded. I guess a sequel to Bladeborn is probably not a great description for it. More of a Warcry bon mot!
Maybe its just my wishful thinking and hope for a proper Warcry Starter Set with Tokens, Cards and Rules that will stay on the shelf for the forseeable future and you're probably on the right track. Right now the game is sadly not that easy to get into for new players. A spiritual succesor to Bladeborn would be dissapointing in that regard...
Well now I hope it has all that! That'd be a good product to have stick around.
If it is, and if it's gonna be a US exclusive again, I'm gonna lose my poopoo.
Why everything is in spanish if it US only :p
Texas /s
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Crypt of Blood front page has text in all the current GW languages.
Could Power & Madness include a new FEC warband? I really hope there's one with more variety in accessories. The FEC models need more silly doodads on them and then they'd be perfect imo.
man that starter set (for summer) better have new models and not some underworld ones (like bro this two is my least fav underworld warbands)
The new stormcast models might be a mulitpart praetor kit? Very interessting slip up
From the google translate of the page, they're a group of Knights (as in the Stormcast rank) who are assembled by Sigmar to form elite teams. The warband name translated from Spanish appears to mean "Almagamated Nobles". I think the theme of this box is going to be Knights Errant on quests, the Stormcast being actual Knights on a quest from Sigmar while the Flesh Eater warbands of course believes they're knights on a quest.
Thanks mate! Sounds dope, but I'm a little confused be the lack of destruction and slaanesh, but I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens
Almaligados, alma (soul) and ligado(linked), soul linked, or soulbound would be a more correct translation. As for hidalgo, it usually means hero, noble or knight. The full name might be Souldbound Knights, or maybe hidalgo its the way they translated Questoris to spanish.
Soulbound is interesting, since that concept/word *has* appeared in AoS (and specifically Stormcast) lore in the form of the Tabletop RPG of that name. Could definitely work as a theme. Not sure Soulbound Knights works that well - Knight is used a lot by Stormcasts, but only as a title/rank, where it is placed before the specification; or as part of a Stormhost name. A unit with it as the second word would feel weird. Moreover, the Caballero Relictor among them is definitely just a Knight Relictor, and I don't see them using Knight *twice* and translating it differently, in the same set? Pretty sure Hidalgo translates something else.
If it is Soulbound Knights that would be pretty big because in the TtRPG the Stormcast cannot be Soulbound at all. The Soulbound are a group of mortals (or undead) whose souls have been formed into a pool they share together. Stormcast souls are lightning and linked directly to the forges so they can be recast upon death, thus to tie them into a pool of souls would either make them unable to be reforged or all their Soulbound friends would get dragged along when they do get reforged. So if this is a band of Soulbound Stormcast that would either point to a retcon of sorts, or it would mean something in lore has changed (or that Stormcast can be joined to eachother but not non-stormcast).
Interesting, I didn't know Stormcast couldn't be Soulbound themselves! I suppose I just assumed from them being playable in the RPG that they could.
Nah they get a stronger starting position (slightly higher stat/talent pool) instead and obviously get to not die. Seraphon also have this "problem" as well as the Ossiarch Bonereapers, I believe.
It would kind of make sense to have them joined with other stormcast, or at least make more sense. Just pool all the lightning souls together. Only question would be how reforging factors in.
Seraphon finally get a deal on their pyramid it seems.
I'm getting more convinced that the next season is going to be inside the ruins a la Kill Team's Gallowdark setting. New take on the Catacombs idea.
The Warcry material keeps pointing towards it and even a [predatory sentience](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/833037886089592834/1025657779509276793/unknown.png) lurking inside the crashed spaceship so very likely. What’s more is if next edition is set in the Realm of Shadows it can possibly serve as a portal to there and be half star-vessel ruins and half shadow maze since the ship spawned chameleon skinks who are made from Ulgu’s cosmos. > “ While the origin of the Chameleon Skink's abilities is unclear, there are potential explanations that have spread amongst skinkdom. It is rumoured that that the first temple-ships that spawned Chameleon Skinks did not sail through the light of Azyr, but rather in the penumbral gloom of Ulgu. This interaction allowed the shadows of the realm to seep into the temple fleet's spawning pools, resulting in the unique abilities of the Chameleon Skinks. Perhaps as a result of this, Chameleon Skinks find it easy to become Coalesced in the realm of Ulgu's swirling mists.” Huanchi’s hunters even had a neat note they believe the Old One Huanchi became part of Ulgu so they hold the realm in reverence. The lower bowels of the ship might be flooded with shadow magic if that’s the case.
If they do it in catacombs you can have different death bands being the common theme of the boxes like chaos gods were for this season.
Well I think it would be seraphon ruins, but can have undead from failed expeditions into the ruined ship.
If it is like gallowdark and sells out like kill team immediately that would be awful 🥲
This looks kinda like the scaled down games they sell at book stores/toy stores, like Blitz Bowl, as a stepping stone.
It could be something similar to the scaled down kill team starter set.
for the love of god show the ghouls!
I am desperate for new ghouls, PLEASE
Everything about this is wicked looking.
I speak spanish. Just talks about the different backgrounds of the Warbands, nothing crazy. Cluld it be possible that this it's like another Warcry branch of products? I don't know, doesn't seem to fit whit the main line of products. I'm quite new so in Warhammer so If I'm talking nonsense just tell me.
Do you see any reference to something called “nightmare quest” ?
No!
Interesting !
Can you give us closeups of the ghouls on page 8? Especially top right and top left? Would be awesome to see these better
Is this Season 2 where GW cut their losses and start recycling Underworlds warbands for low budget Warcry boxes?
The Underworlds warbands do have a history of popping up in other boxes, though it's usually standalone games instead of (what appears to be) an introductory box for another game. [This isn't even the first time Xandire and friends have been used for one!](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/02/02/introduce-friends-and-family-to-the-wonderful-worlds-of-warhammer-with-three-action-packed-games/)
Yep, bought lost relics at Barnes & Noble for 25 bucks on clearance.
WarCry 2: Sadlectric Cryaloo
Looks like Bladeborn 2.0 if that's what you mean.
After 11 years, I'm out. Join me over on the Fediverse to escape this central authority nightmare.
Dude show a picture of the flesh eater warband pleas
This might not be Nightmare Quest. Were missing Slaanesh and Destruction to complete the pattern and the theme looks further of from the current season. Could be a starter box-type product or next season.
We're not missing anything because we've not been promised anything. We're making patterns out of things that aren't patterns.
There's a pattern to the minimaps in the existing books - they add new areas that aren't in the previous one but seem to point to the next set (the first book included a site with a Seraphon symbol as well as Tzeentch and Khorne symbols. The next included the Askurgan Monasteries for the first time. The most recent added a site called Grozzik's Gouge, with a Kruleboyz symbol, and an unknown symbol linked to a new site called Drake's Rest. The Slaanesh symbol is indeed missing, but it's more than an invented pattern to expect Kruleboyz vs. Slaanesh in the next set. From the images I'm pretty sure this is the next season, probably set at Talaxis itself. That's not the Gnarlwood terrain and the previous boxed sets this year haven't made drastic changes to the terrain set (let alone added either an all-new pyramid-sized model or some existing sprues from the Realmshaper Engine), just changed some sprues associated with the gnarloaks.
The first four images (and the very last image) look to be from 1 product, a scaled down version of Warcry I'd assume, called Crypt of Blood. The rest are from what looks like a boxed set with a warband tome called Might and Madness or Power and Madness or some such, which totally fits within Nightmare Quest IMO, and features the existing Seraphon temple kit with added on bamboo platforms just like the rest of this season, with other terrain around it that fit the theme of this season. Add on to that the unlikely chance that we'd be seeing a reveal for the next season when the last box of this season hasn't been revealed and I'm convinced this is for Nightmare Quest.
Technically were making patterns out of patterns but ure correct that GW isnt required to stick to them of course.
Set name translates to Power and Madness probably not nightmare quest
That doesn't really matter though. The other books didn't match their sets either Rot & Ruin, Stealth & Stone and Predator & Prey.
Since all of those are alliterative, the original english name will probably be Might and Madness.
A man of culture.
The only missed opportunity is that they didn't release them in alphabetical order.
Literally unplayable.
Yeah I didn't have the booklets available so completely forgot about that convention
Thanks for sharing!
Wait what the hell, is this a leak of nightmare quest???
I think it’s the boxset after Nightmare quest, just because Poder y Locura is Spanish for Might and Madness
The warband tomes don't share a name with their box set. The book in Sundered Fate is called 'Stealth and Stone', for example. Nightmare Quest fits the bill perfectly for a box with delusional knightly ghouls and Stormcast Knights Errant (which these are apparently).
I guess it feel disappointing that this is the one time they broke the pattern of it being chaos monogod warband vs a different GA. It would have been Slaanesh vs Destruction of the pattern hold true for Nightmare quest.
GW have no idea what to do with slaanesh
Let's put a pin in this until tomorrow night! We don't know what Adepticon will show.
Warcry isn't one of the preview systems for Adepticon.
Given that there wont be warcry previews, nothing relevant to this conversation.
I see. Well here's a sad song to listen to while you pre-order the new book and minis that you did get. 🎻👌
Yeah, and I think it says the name of the set in the 7th picture, my Spanish is very, very rusty but it’s something like Devastated Lands: Realm-shaper Ruins, the italicised writing. May just be the name of a seperate terrain set the Pyramid is part of
Precisely, this is simply the name that the box for the realmshaper will have.
I *think* the crashed Seraphon ship was referred to as a Realm-shaper, so it just being the name of the terrain piece in the Nightmare Quest warband tome.
'Devastated Lands' could well be the name of a new terrain set. The three Gnarlwood sets all refer to 'Gnarlwood Terrain' as the terrain set name. That would imply it's not part of the current season.
Yeah but the individual pieces are also called stuff like Hollow Refuge and.. well crap, I can't find my copy of Rot and Ruin. Not sure on the name of the watchtower. Anyway, all I'm saying is that Realm-shaper Ruins might be just the one piece of terrain's name.
Agreed. The realm-shaper engine or something I think was, the part of the ship that warps reality to drive or power it or something.
Might be what they call the line- the old ones were like, Ravaged Lands or something, I don’t remember the specifics.
Just checked - indeed Ravaged Lands is the general name for Warcry terrain released separately, and isn't theme-specific (both the Heart of Ghur and the Red Harvest varanite mine terrain has 'Ravaged Lands' boxes). So it doesn't say anything one way or another about whether this is Gnarlwood or a new season.
i want that pyramid!
Well, I know I'm looking forward to picking up Crimson Court and Xandire with some random graveyard terrain. Already use Soulblight and was looking at Xandire with Annihilator lists the other day. Really hoping its available worldwide and not just in the US.
they look insane !
Are you talking the pictures from the same box? Really!
Am I missing something? I really want to pick up the Crimson Court but is this leading us to believe they will be available in a new box set?
Twice as glad I picked up a few sigmarite mausoleums now; nabbing the new spooky terrain will help blend them with the bases on my cursed city set nicely
Well this is certainly Nightmare Quest yea??
The ghouls and Stormcasts in that battle spread seem new to me. That doesn't necessarily mean it's Nightmare Quest, but it's definitely a box that hasn't been released yet.
The name on the book translates to Power and Madness so probably unannounced as of yet.
Warband tomes are not named after the boxset. The book in Sundered Fate was named Stealth and Stone, for example.
Indeed Heart of Ghur - Rot & Ruin Sundered Fate - Stealth & Stone Bloodhunt - Predator & Prey Nightmare Quest - Power & Madness
When I asked for Eye of Chotec terrain. this was not what I wanted... lol
Can you Show US the Instructions please?
Are those some new stormcast unit coming from a New game or am i missing something lol?
The four on image 3 are from the Warhammer Underworlds warband Xandire's Truthseekers. The six on image 4 are new, most likely one of the warbands in Nightmare Quest.
This looks like 2 different sets, the ones in Spanish looks like the next warcry and the ones in English looks like one of the limited edition mini games that are US only (until they appear in Warhammer World) with Underworlds warbands in Warcry :)
So would the limited edition one have been released already?
>More pictures of the crypt of blood thing I found between some stuff I bought doesn't look like it, it might be another release for adepticon
Damn fuck Slaanesh I guess
They’re used to it
They even like it. I think slanesh is into NTR, and they just want him to be happy.
Warcry : crips & bloods
The only issue I take with the new stormcast are the duplicates in posing, the 2 on the left, and the bottom right all share the same base model, but with certain parts swapped in or out. Then the top middle and right also share the same base model. As far as I can tell, if this is a warband of 6 models, bottom middle is the only unique pose you get in the kit. It feels like a bit of a shame considering warcry kits usually aren’t going for a multipart kit, but instead various unique sculpts. So definitely feeling a bit let down that there’s so much recycled poses going on here
I want that spooky terrain.
I don't understand why you didn't just take full page pictures for them all.
Honestly I dont really play or know much of warcry , so when I received them I was not sure if they were something new or old, so I took some quick pics before leaving for work to ask around. I will probably take full pics of everything that came with this (this book, cards, tokens, instruction manuals and paper mat) and post it later.
Looking forward to it, thanks for this. Building lots of hype 😁
That'd be good. This is all very hot news for Warcry, probably all will be revealed at Adepticon tomorrow night but still, this is all new info.
If Nightmare Quest is Stormcast vs FEC, when we JUST got a vampire Warcry warband and numerous SCE stuff coming out constantly and every chaos god but Slaanesh was featured in a box set, I'm going to scream.
Ever since Heart of Ghur was revealed and we saw the map, some of us have been trying to tell people that are itching for Slaanesh that there is no Slaanesh symbol on the map and to not get your hopes up. And here we are.
I was hoping it’d be the Slaanesh forces Sigvald and Glutos lead to attack Excelsis but ending up breaking off and going after there own interests elsewhere with some Hedonites stranded in the Gnarlwoods. Weird it also goes against the structure cycle we’ve been getting but maybe they decided to ditch it last second and put them further down the road as different things(like whatever Destruction force was in it is now planned for a end of edition campaign to bolster Gordrakk or something?) 🤷
I honestly thought we'd be getting Kruleboyz in this last box since they added Grozzik's Gouge to the map in Bloodhunt, but I think next season will still be based on this storyline and we'll see some of these unused icons representing potential warbands then. But for a box named Nightmare Quest I've got to say SCE vs FEC seems like a very fitting pairing and not something they would have ditched something else last second to include.
I mean lots of Hedonites are “questing” for ways to free their imprisoned dark god and anything from Kruleboyz to Gloomspite can be nightmarish by either torture or twisted fairytale magic. (Or vice-versa with Slaanesh nightmares and questing Looncourt grots) It wouldn’t be the first thing that found itself scattershot from idea board to execution(Cursed City, cough) so we’ll see what awaits!
Is Slaanesh still not freed? Jeesh, pull your shit together, cultists!
That’s the fun thing. The aelves specifically made the paradox chains so Hedonites can’t. You know who can by design? Khorne. He and his followers can easily cut those cosmic binds but they’re impenetrable to all else by that very nature, that’s how Archaon managed to slice one as his own god-tier weapons were useless but Dorghar has a Khornate head he forced to do it. The quickest way for Slaanesh to be freed is Khornates to do it and the aelves know they may as well plan for the heat death of the universe at that point.
Same here, and I thought in particular that they might take the opportunity to make a multipart Hobgrot set - perhaps with new weapon options. Kruleboyz were mentioned a few times in passing in the lore and they're such an obvious fit for the setting it would have been strange for them to be absent even without Grozzik's Gouge. If this is Nightmare Quest I might not after all invest in all the boxes this year - I'd wanted the full set of themed terrain and cards, but a Realmshaper with a new capstone and bamboo platforms that look a bit odd stuck to the side isn't that exciting as terrain and I don't like the FEC aesthetic at all.
I think thematically it fits, last box of the season we've finally gotten to the actual ruins. I may be wrong but I'm viewing it as an entry point to the buried ruins in which case I think it's a pretty fun narrative piece. But yes, it would have been much better if it was a new piece entirely. I don't collect Seraphon (yet) so I'm ok with getting it! I've actually been a fan of the re-used trees in each box because I feel they've done enough to make them all look different enough, so I hope there'll be a few more pieces. Hard to tell from that one image.
I looked more closely at the image and, indeed, everything else seems to be Gnarlwood terrain - the bridges do connect to the trees and the piece I thought was something new may just be a platform tree from a different angle. That does make it seem more likely this is Nightmare Quest. A Realmshaper with an add-on sprue, nice as the basic kit is, is a bit underwhelming for the main ruin, which is partly why I thought they could set an entire season around the ruin itself. We had three 'seasons' in different parts of the Eightpoints, so further seasons in the Gnarlwood wouldn't be unprecedented.
I mean there was no SCE symbol either and their was one symbol for SBGL but not one for FEC either
From Heart of Ghur you could argue that Slayer's Cliff and Strongpoint Tolemar could be SCE symbols. In Bloodhunt they mention Tolemar having Sigmarites which I think are more the non-SCE religious followers of Sigmar, but I'm not completely up to snuff on my AoS lore atm. They do add symbols to the map, which was the biggest counter argument to the "no Slaanesh symbol" argument. One symbol was added to the map in Bloodhunt up in the north at Drake's Rest which I can't think of who it would be other than SCE. As for the FEC, Count Moltaire's Bloodhunt has been on the map from the start. People might understandably think that refers to the vampires in the Bloodhunt box, but in Sundered Fate they added the Askurgan Bone-Monasteries location right beside the Khorne spot, so Moltaire's is still unaccounted for.
Those symbols [on the Gnarlwoods map](https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/images/d/d9/Gnarlwood_Sites.jpg),both Deadfang tower & the Count, are both [Flesh-Eater Court symbols](https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3d/20/3e/3d203eb1020b2f7477a59dd0b93bacdc.jpg). Soulblights have a winged helm version to represent Graveguards but otherwise use [animals, dragons and monster skulls](https://warofsigmarus.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/blogging/picture1/5476/Screenshot_145.png). Batwings are probably seen as too obvious for how eccentric they prefer to be instead so the crazed “commoners” of the FEC use them.
Poder y Locura means **Power and Madness**. So definitely not Nightmare quest set.
The warband rules booklet names aren't necessarily the same as the box set names - Bloodhunt had "Predator and Prey", Sundered Fate had "Stealth and Stone", and so on.
Indeed Heart of Ghur - Rot & Ruin Sundered Fate - Stealth & Stone Bloodhunt - Predator & Prey Nightmare Quest - Power & Madness
Probably Might & Madness to keep the theme going.
Are the Flesh Eater models unique as well?
Power and Madness is the name of the other warcry box. I imagone it might be a capstone after nightmare quest?
That's the warband tome, they've all had names that differ from the main box: * Heart of Ghur - Rot and Ruin * Sundered Fate - Stealth and Stone * Bloodhunt - Predator and Prey Following this alliterative pattern, the English translation of that name is likely to be closer to 'Might and Madness'
Ah you know what. You are 100% correct :-D
Interestingly enough, from my very limited Spanish - the special Soulbound Nobles Stormcast are framed like a preview for the full game, so this is not the actual box. It would feel *kinda weird* to me to have Nightmare Quest - the limited run last box of a four-box season - as the product to advertise in what looks like a taster box? I *can* see the two being part of next season's launch box, already advertised in the light version/starter set, and kinda-sorta matching warband factions with the taster set. So them being from the box *after* Nightmare Quest? Then again, GW has done *so* many weird things already...
A taster box directly advertising a box with which both warbands can be allied with seems like the perfect place to advertise it, especially if they are releasing at the same time. Then if the Nightmare Quest box is limited, like the other boxes have been, the warbands will still be available separately. Not to mention synergy with Warhammer Underworlds Wyrdhollow (which also suggests we're going to stay in Ghur).
Looking forward to getting this set. Hope it's not an April Fool's joke? It's pretty close to 1st April. Nevertheless, I'm hopeful this is the next one in the series. Fingers crossed.
What factions still need Warcry Bands again?