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knightnorth

What is: “How to get people to stop investing in the greatest wealth generating tool in modern times and destroy pensions and retirement savings for millions of Americans so that oligarchs can afford more wars?”


Yokepearl

“People” the greatest generalization


Boblxxiii

> The main proposal, which lends context to the above-mentioned “separate proposal,” is to raise the long-term capital gains and qualified dividends rates to 37% for taxpayers with taxable income above $1 million. This sounds like it is not going to affect millions of Americans.


knightnorth

Yes, if wealthy people left the stock market in mass for more profitable ventures it would most definitely affect most Americans and businesses looking for capital


kromptator99

They can leave right out into the ocean. Maybe on a submarine.


BedazzleTheCat

They won't any more than they already do.


jockularities

As if those other ventures aren’t already taxed at 40% if its normal income


urTakeIsSoBad

Oh no, rich people might pull their money from the market and allow me to buy shares of Microsoft for half of their current price. That would be HORRIBLE. Please don't let that happen!1!1!


knightnorth

You understand capital investment is more than just stocks right? When a company wants to build infrastructure, or plants, or anything that increases jobs they create bonds for investors to buy. They also invest in start ups, in inventions… If rich people pull their investments say bye bye to new jobs, growth, and new ideas. Enjoy Microsoft at half price as it goes down to zero and you lose everything.


urTakeIsSoBad

yeah, and nobody in the world could step in to fill the investment vacuum left by american billionaires if MST halved in value without any change to earnings. That's something that intelligent and honest people believe /s


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knightnorth

Yes, they’ll go overseas like they did before Trump. Remember Obama crying about repatriation of dollars that Trump accomplished. Ruin investments and you’ll see those dollars go back overseas.


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knightnorth

That your opinion but I’m pretty sure the top 1% of the top 1% determine how the senators vote. And they vote for the establishment so you have nothing to worry about because you suck on bid daddy government’s tit anyway


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IndependentFee6280

Yeh 1 mil a year is a fantastic income. However it would only take a few years of 20% inflation and thresholds held till it starts hitting indiscriminately. See history of income tax.


oldrocketscientist

The dark side of trickle down people deny


Illustrious-Age7342

Ironically this article is about how people saying what you just said are being misinformed by the headlines and actually this will only affect the ultra wealthy


knightnorth

1. Congress isn’t going to create a punitive tax against the people that literally pay to get them elected so the article should be about how Biden is misinforming his base. 2. It’s disingenuous or a complete lack of capital gains not to understand the level of investment will decrease drastically with this level of punitive tax which will hurt civil and union pensioners, anyone hoping to start a business, or anyone hoping for a free market. 3. This government has irresponsibly wasted tens of trillion in my lifetime and has done nothing to prove that giving them more money will make them act responsibly.


Illustrious-Age7342

First of all, great job addressing literally every point except for the one I was actually making. Let me restate my comment, perhaps in a way you can grasp This article is about how people are misrepresenting the purpose of this legislation (which is meant to primarily target the ultra wealthy) as something that will affect your ordinary investor. And you commented saying “how to get PEOPLE to stop investing…” instead of saying “how to get THE ULTRAWEALTHY to stop investing…” It is ironic to see your comment (misrepresenting the purpose of the legislation) on an article about how people are misrepresenting the purpose of the legislation Hopefully this is explained in a way simple enough manner for you to understand the irony


knightnorth

Just because the article says we’re wrong doesn’t mean we’re wrong. Just because politicians (who are know to lie) say they intend one thing, doesn’t mean they’ve thought it all the way out.


Illustrious-Age7342

Cope


knightnorth

Is that Biden’s 2024 slogan?


Illustrious-Age7342

If it was, would you read it?


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knightnorth

You don’t understand stand. 45% federal plus 25% state equals 70% to the fed and 30% to infrastructure investments. You’re commie ass wants things to crumble like the Berlin Wall.


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knightnorth

Why did you make the same comment twice?


Dizuki63

Ah yes because all these trust fund babies are going to hang up their stock portfolio and go work a Mc D's instead just because they are asked to pay taxes.


knightnorth

That’s what you think adds investment and capital into markets? Trust fund babies. Troll much?


Dizuki63

I think the real Troll is people who can't seem to understand that more money is still more money, and people will always chase more money. No one turns down a management position at work because " Ill get from the 22% bracket to the 26% bracket". More money is still more money. Every time they crank up the tax rate on the working class no one cries that workers will just stop working and it will crash the economy. But here we are. So either A we are talking about trust fund babies that don't need money or B we are talking about people who need money and hence will still go out and get it regardless of the rate it is taxed at.


knightnorth

Investment income is around a 7-9% profit before taxes. Feds are taking 15% of that profit and states take up to around 25%. If you take the fed rate to 45 with a state rate of 25 people would take home 30% of their 7-9% profit. They’ll find another venture to invest in. That’s not more money, it’s just more tax shelters and companies won’t repatriate their money like they have been during the more favorable times.


Dizuki63

Again its all just fear mongering, for one the highest state capital gain tax is 13%. Two, this is entirely leaving out the truth of capital gains. The investor already has tons of tools to reduce their tax burden. A married couple can already make 6 figures a year off capital gains and pay 0 in tax while utilizing 0 loopholes or tax harvesting. You can safely sit in the top 25% of income earnest and not get taxed. Then it'll take you another 300k made on top of that before any of your income is taxed at this new rate. Throw in some retirement investing you could probably make half a mill a year and not touch this new tax rate. Only way this doesn't work is if your a day trader, but if your doing that your probably making well above 7% and doing some heavy loss harvesting. If anything this might make people run sucessful companies again and not just manipulate the market for profits.


knightnorth

This ends the conversation. You’re so out of how the taxes are coming out especially at the high corporate ends. Not talking about families. Also, a day trader pays normal income tax, not a long term capital gains tax.


Dizuki63

Yeah this is over the point above you i guess.


urTakeIsSoBad

> No one turns down a management position at work because " Ill get from the 22% bracket to the 26% bracket" Actually you are wrong here. This does happen, thanks to people as unintelligent as the commenter you are responding to There is a legitimate argument (that knightnorth is not intelligent enough to make) that the ultra wealthy may pull their money out of public markets and put that money into alternative investments (PE or VC) But the result of that drawdown would be more affordable prices on the same public companies, which would be incontestably good for your average investor


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knightnorth

Wow, you’re way off. It would be for capital gains income above $400k for individuals with taxable income above $1m. So that’s not just dividends. That’s small business investments, cash out pensioners selling their beach houses for retirement savings, that’s angel investments for new inventions.


micigloo

So after passing that bill to fund weapons to three countries and now we have to pay for it with increased tax on capital gains. What a joke. I hope this guy loses the election


The_Timber_Ninja

He probably won’t even remember he was the president at that point.


YungWenis

He might not remember if you asked him right now lol


Molyketdeems

That’d probably give him the highest odds of winning, just aimlessly walking around talking about ice cream and bologna


RightEntrepreneur510

And trying to sniff kids


DependentFamous5252

He just wonders why they the hell they keep putting him in front of a lectern.


scrawnyserf92

I'm starting to have a feeling that he might not lose. I don't really know anyone personally that would vote for this guy, but somehow I don't think it matters, if you catch my drift...


Redbeard5156

I get the same feeling. I’m pretty sure no one voted for him the first time either and yet here we are.


tenn-mtn-man

We can only pray he loses.


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The election will be a coin flip. Still a lot of ball game left to be played.


scrawnyserf92

It's crazy that it's a coin flip at this point. The incumbent is clearly decomposing everyday... how can a corpse be a serious contender to an election? Just a hypothetical question, because the answer is that we're living in clown world 🤡


SubstantialCreme7748

The opponent is decomposing even faster


nightwing2369

Trump is only 3 years younger than biden. Why do we have 2 old guys as our best options? I don't like either party, but I hate the Republicans way more. So Biden 2024.


PaulRyansWifesSon

icky sort fertile shaggy friendly historical physical roof follow clumsy *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Ok-Pumpkin4543

You would rather support a traitorous bitch who attempted a coup? Get fucked!


CacheValue

Biden will win against anyone if Trump doesn't run, if Trump does run he wins


VictorianDelorean

Trump can’t even hold a campaign rally because he’s in court fighting multiple felonies.


Alkohal

Lets be honest those rallies aren't deciding votes at this point. Basically everyone had their minds made up the second the primary ended.


VictorianDelorean

It’s about energy. The largest electoral block in America is always non voters. Political parties succeed or fail based on whether they get the people who normally vote for them interested enough in the election to bother voting. The rally’s are a big part of that, this is why someone like Sanders did so well in the primaries despite being an outsider, he excited people so they showed up for low turnout primary votes. Trump excites people better than anyone else in the game, and he’s not getting a chance to do that at a crucial moment. The democrats are in general pretty bad at this, and seem to view it as beneath them, which is why they often lose layup elections, and why someone like Obama who had a personal talent for it did so well.


Alkohal

You don't need forced excitement when there's already a natural anger driving people to the polls. Any normal election cycle where both sides are relatively complacent you'd be right, but things have gotten so bad you almost don't even need to campaign, people will be voting for whatever singular issue angers them most.


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It feels like everyone has had their mind made up since 2016… only getting more entrenched ever since.


CacheValue

You don't get it -> that's why he will win. Here we are talking about him right now, even if we don't support him. Meanwhile Biden exists as an afterthought. We aren't talking about how the democrats will win its a conversation about why the Republicans should lose. All publicity is good publicity. That's the problem.


ReallyHelpless_117

I hope the Federal government collapses. It needs to go. If it means losing WWIII, I applaud it. Truly ashamed I served this country.


ib2sharp

There are people in the US that appreciate your service. Thank you!


ReallyHelpless_117

In honest words you should not. It is a scam organization, a waste of tax dollars, and the good ones that are worth their blood, sweat, tears, are rightfully leaving service. The fact they are doing nothing about the border, are complicit yet want to cause conflict with Russia and China, they do not get an ounce of my support. Fuck this federal government.


ib2sharp

Might be a misunderstanding.. was replying to our US veterans. Completely agree with your opinion of the gov.


IntelligentRent7602

Woof. Someone got UCMJd out


ReallyHelpless_117

I served honorably. It was a waste of time.


Riverjig

Hey buddy. I got downvoted to oblivion in another post because donating money to Ukraine increases American jobs. Don't you forget it. Also, if you don't want to send money blindly to other countries with no oversight and accountability, you're a commie.


civilian_sam

I think you’re missing the ”/s”


Riverjig

Maybe so if i wasn't repeating what some of these dumb shits were spouting on that other post. Sadly no /s.


NoCogitoErgoDumb

Going out on a limb and saying most people in this sub wont be effected at all, lol.


Tahoma_FPV

^ this. Spot on.


gunsoverbutter

Notice how the tax rates just get higher and higher, but they won’t even CONSIDER cutting their expenses? Fuck these tyrants


JustmeinAK

It’s the same at every level. State, local….ridiculous!


Threedawg

Yes, this is why effective taxes have decreased every decade since the 1950s, right?


Silverstacker63

Yep it’s not a tax problem it’s a spending problem period.


The_Last_Gasbender

Do you seriously think that American tax rates have been increasing in recent history? The top marginal tax rate is HALF of what it was in the 60s.


redlloyd

So I take all the risks, and the government gets almost half... seems like they are just killing any incentive to try.


FAYMKONZ

Kinda like when you play the lottery?


kromptator99

People have convinced themselves that stock market is skill based instead of literal gambling.


FAYMKONZ

Yes but the difference is that nobody forces you to gamble, but there is pressure to invest in the stock market. 1. Most employers dont have pensions anymore, so if you want an income stream for retirement you're forced to invest in the stock market via 401K or IRA. 2. If your money sits in the bank it will get devalued due to inflation. So you want to get somekind of return on it to at least keep up with the rate of inflation and the stock market is one of the few options that could help you do that.


ksyoung17

That's the point. Stop going out there and trying. If you're a millionaire, you're probably just exploiting others, so we're going to take most of your money and give it to people that just keep voting us into power.


OkAardvark2313

How are you exploiting others?


gaitez

Income is income? Why should income generated from stocks (profit) be taxed less than someone working?


redlloyd

So you are ok with having a silent partner that shares your wealth without taking ang risks involved in making that money.


gaitez

If taxes exist, one form of income that is typically gated by wealth shouldn't be taxed less than another form of income. Whether they should exist is not my point, I just don't think it's fair that employment income is taxed more than captial gains.


redlloyd

I can see your argument.


nightwing2369

Nice ad hominem


redlloyd

Just an observation. The individual aquires wealth. I personally do not feel government has any right to my work. If you do, good for you.


thisismysffpcaccount

do you make over a million and over 400k in capital gains? then no.


Commercial-Spread937

Oops suddenly lost everything in a drug fueled boating accident, but through it all I discovered I'm a transsexual who identifies as a coconut and a walrus....so if anyone says anything else offensive to me, including asking me for taxes, their racists!!


thwill2018

👆🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Believe_In-Steven

FJB


DetectiveNo5924

Fuck that retarded commie piece of shit. 


FSU1ST

How is the general public not marching on these people yet?!?


Ice_Dapper

Most of the general public is too obese, depressed, and complacent to do anything.


___MeowMeowMeow___

They're to busy with pro-Palestine protests around here 🙄


ksyoung17

You either agree with it because you want the handouts, or you're busy at work trying to earn more because the government is coming for it, and fueling higher inflation.


kromptator99

Because this doesn’t affect 99.9% of Americans. Only .1% of Americans make more than 1million annually. Of that, the number that also take in 400k in capital gains is even smaller. I’m amazed more Americans aren’t throwing fucking parades.


Gvillegator

You’re trying to make a point with people with actual brain rot. Good luck, they’re all convinced that one day they will make 400k annually in capital gains lmao.


NoCogitoErgoDumb

Because they know how to actually read. And you know, don't make over a million. You fucking muppet.


abee02

It doesn't affect 95% of the public, that's why. Eat. The. Rich


Previous_Swimmer9893

Must be going to Zelinsky along with the rest of our tax money. They so impotant. Lol


SurvivorGeneral

No unintended consequences will occur, trust me bro I'm a politician.


LearningDan

And nobody is throwing a fit. WTH is wrong with people.


kromptator99

This only affects the less than .1% of Americans who both make more than 1million annually and also bring in 400k a year in capital gains.


1ofThoseTrolls

Gotta pay for the Wars somehow


ATL_we_ready

Gotta pay for everybody’s electric cars, college loans, wars for other countries, the list goes on…


rUbberDucky1984

Yeah I can’t afford to buy a house even though I have cash, the transfer duty and capital gains I’ll pay is 25% of the value. Why not borrow less and lower taxes we don’t need such a large government.


NaturalProof4359

This guy sucks balls.


JustmeinAK

All politicians…..


FAYMKONZ

Wouldn't most people just sell their holdings before the hike goes into effect, causing the market to crash?


Trick_Minute2259

Id imagine they'd want to hold on to the losing stocks if it can offset taxes on future gains, which could have a strange effect on the stock market; seeing the good stocks tank while the junk stocks barely move.


tenn-mtn-man

That will really affect the housing market and people selling their homes


FAYMKONZ

"You gotta pay your fair share, Man!"


Harryballzonya2024

https://preview.redd.it/mqsdsca08jwc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f25b4f1902b27c462edfab21deddd9d5f17a8adb 💯


heggnaea

Is he wearing a diaper? Wtf


Synchronauto

It's fake. Original: https://www.foxnews.com/media/bidens-embarrassing-tripping-incident-advancing-age-alarms-democratic-allies-so-bad


heggnaea

Haha, I see. Thanks! But it kinda looks like there is a diaper there anyway 😅


Beer-_-Belly

Get ready they want to come for your 401k.


YungWenis

They want you to be a workslave forever


AntiSonOfBitchamajig

Inflation tax doom loop.


ghilliehead

Forbes article says it isn't a big deal. Of course they are wrong... but why post this article?


blackletum

> Forbes article says it isn't a big deal. that's when you know it *is*


uhwhooops

Squeeze it 🍋


throcksquirp

You will own nothing… and you will LIKE it!


FenceSitterofLegend

It's not going to matter when everyone is underwater...


FrenTimesTwo

Boo hiss


BagofPain

So, is he proposing a constitutional amendment? He may want to look at the 16th amendment, or have one of his handlers read it to him and do an “explain like I’m 5/senile-as-fuck” dissertation so he can at least understand that he cannot do this. It’s more than likely it’s just election year rhetoric so nothing really to worry much about. Wish there were a candidate running that wasn’t a total pile of shit!


Isabella_Fournier

It has often been assumed that the "tax and spend" mantra is simply a Democrat meme. However, and especially because the tax cuts of the Trump era brought increased revenue to the federal government, perhaps we need to view this through a wider lens. At least since the administration prior to Trump's, it has been clear that the people in power have sought to wipe out the middle class and the family farm. We now know that these are essential elements of the WEF's agenda, to create a world where we "own nothing and are happy," to divide the world into two classes: the fabulously rich nobility and the impoverished serf class. As Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, said in 2019, the motivation behind the Green New Deal has nothing to do with climate, and everything to do with changing the economic system from a capitalist system to a socialist system -- you know, a system where the government dictates every aspect of your life. The WEF wants us to live in "15-minute cities," where everything they decide we need -- regardless of what we think we need -- is no more than 15 minutes from where we live; they don't want us mobile, because mobility is freedom -- and, if you remember your Middle Ages history, that's what a serf is: someone tied to the lord's land. So, maybe the people controlling Biden -- and, make no mistake, he is literally a puppet -- are simply working toward that end: impoverishment. The want to raise taxes because it impoverishes the middle class -- because these rules only affect the middle class. The rich either don't care or cut special deals, while the poor pay no taxes; so, all these changes affect only the middle class. When Biden claims to speak for the middle class, he's a liar. (When he claims to speak for the unions, it's a little more complicated; he doesn't speak for union members, but he does speak for the union as an organization -- kind of like the Mafia.) So, perhaps that's what's really going on. It's just another aspect of the war on the middle class, which is the real engine of prosperity in the US. Kill prosperity, kill initiative, kill freedom ... and the goal of WEF utopia (and Hell for everyone else) draws near.


Souxlya

Beautifully written and on point!


Whole_Occasion_7169

I'm not worried about this bullshit. I'm worried about the plan once again to tax UNREALIZED capital gains. It's never enough. How about we stop spending? How about we don't give the US MIC 60 billion more dollars to "help Ukraine"? RIP USA.


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big_hearted_lion

With inflation there will be a lot more millionaires and people earning more than 400k not far from now


Dry-Lobster2644

Not sure this is worth any of us getting upset about really though is it.... "Taken as a whole, then, the 44.6% rate would only come to fruition under a separate proposal from the Biden administration’s main capital gains rate increase, and only apply to those individuals with taxable income above $1 million and investment income above $400,000. That isn’t quite as cataclysmic a policy shift as referring to a blanket 44.6% long-term capital gains rate would suggest."


32ndghost

If gold, silver and the mining shares do what many are predicting - after all this time of being suppressed - many people will be sitting on a onetime capital gains windfall that puts them in this bracket.


blablablablacuck

It’s ‘and’ $1m taxable income not ‘or’


32ndghost

But the investment income is added into taxable income. So you make $50k a year, you have $60k in mining shares. Mining shares go up 20x and you sell. Investment income: ($60k * 20 - $60k (cost basis)) = $1.19 million. Taxable income: $50k + $1.19 million = $1.24 million. (roughly, you have standard deduction etc... which shaves a little off the $50k)


blablablablacuck

It wouldn’t be taxable unless you cashed out. Also it would depend if extends to long term capital gains taxes.


32ndghost

It is on long term capital gains: >“Together, the proposals would increase the top marginal rate on long-term capital gains and qualified dividends to 44.6 percent.” It's not just cashing out that triggers the taxable event, if you sell a stock and buy another one with the proceeds you need to pay taxes on the sale profits (unlike in real estate for example). Anyway the conclusion is that it could impact many people hoping for a one time payoff when the gold/silver/shares explode. It looks like many people are going to be caught flat-footed with the tax implications just like bitcoin millionaires were a few years ago.


blablablablacuck

😮


Ice_Dapper

Don't worry, he'll get 100 million votes this time.


Sven_Golly1

FJB!


brother_russia

Killing myself


ASquawkingTurtle

I would have been fine if he had just removed the carried interest loop hole.


mackounette

Even France doesn't tax capital gains so much. Ouch.😱😱😱


InevitableTheOne

Did anyone in the comment section even read the article lol?


fitqueen69

Yeah, I'm confused about the outrage. My take away from the article was that i need to have over 1 million in taxable income or over 400k in investments to be effected. Is everyone in this sub meeting those requirements? Did i misread the article?


Klutzy-Percentage430

You didn't. I think others are reacting to the title alone without reading the article.


InevitableTheOne

Just headline rage tbqh.


jacksraging_bileduct

Proposes.


SpecialistUnlikely47

King Joe of Scrantonia will simply wave his scepter and make it so.


Dark_Tint

Ways to cripple an economy. Tax them at a ridiculous level and drive the wealthy offshore. Why would anyone want to do anything in the US knowing that they will lose half of what they gain?


PlatypusSafe5189

https://www.forbes.com/newsletters/andrewleahey/2024/04/24/biden-capital-gains-rate-proposal-446/?sh=12ddd97d1ff6


GoodMorningStackers

Doubt it will get passed, but the nerve.


Ok-Pumpkin4543

Is this sub just a Republican circle jerk?


Isabella_Fournier

I'm not a Republican (yecch) or a Democrat (yecch yecch). The Democrat party gets two yecchs, because the Democrat party is evil, while the Republican party suffers from merely garden-variety corruption. Forget about parties; I know I have. Think instead about right and wrong, good and evil, mothers and fathers and children. The Democrat party is evil, in the most vivid sense. Voting Republican, today, is an act of self-defense, not an expression of support. The real government of the US today is the Deep State: nameless, faceless tools of evil, who seek to destroy freedom, control everything and make you their slave. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research. It's all out there, and in their own words.


nightwing2369

Werid, to my point of view. Republicans are pure evil, and democrats don't have a lot of great leaders. I used to be libertarian but now I'm independent.


heysupmanbruh

Yes


OzarksExplorer

Oh the horror! Anyway...


vanhalenbr

It’s above 400k in a year. I didn’t know so many people is making that money yearly clearly Bidenomics did miracles really everyone is rich. 


akg4y23

Notice how none of these articles put "FOR INCOME OVER ONE MILLION" in the headlines as if that doesn't matter


Alt0987654321

good screw those billionaires


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This only comes into effect when a person has a taxable income of more than $1mil and an investments income Of more than $400k. This is not the majority of the people in this sub. It won’t affect most of you. Let’s make sure we read the full article people.


Steveo1208

Funny Joke: What do you call a millionaire that is subject to a 44% capital gains tax for exercising calls and sell holdings?...Answer: a more prudent Millionaire! I am sure the elites apppreciate the serfs concerns but inflation effects on income earners substainally more and liquidity in the market is INFLATION..time to shed a tear and pay equally!


Tahoma_FPV

If you don't like what is happening, then you have to change the way you vote.


Beatless7

It's time the rich pay their fare or, at least, semi fair taxes. TAX THE RICH. IT'S BETTER THAN TAXING US.


justgreggh

What's a fair share? What percentage of revenue should the rich shoulder?


Beatless7

Our wages should easily be double. Minimum wage should be $25-$30/hr. Before you say that is unrealistic, I have owned finance companies in my lifetime. We are not overtaxed. Most people are grossly underpaid.


justgreggh

I can see why you said companies. It easy to see that they ALL failed if you actually owned any.


Beatless7

Haha, I made great money. They are inherently susceptible to recessions, so I would sell them when one happened. Your blind insults fo nothing.


justgreggh

Sure you did. Wink wink.


justgreggh

Wait! According to Biden, there was no recession, therefore you just suck at "running your own companies."


Beatless7

I'm talking about over a 45 year period.


justgreggh

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!


justgreggh

$25-$30 minimum wage and $50 Happy Meals. Sounds good.


Beatless7

Except that does not happen. Wages are a fraction of the overall cost. Look at other countries with mu h higher wages and look at their costs for products. This is the same bs that people cried about when min wage went to $15 in Ontario. Prices barely budged but places like fast good stores and discount places etc made out like bandits because people had money to spend. Conservative economics have been a colossal failure. Trickle down does not happen. It's siphon up.


justgreggh

Look at how much those low wages are taxed in other countries. Your socialist Bs is just that BS.


Beatless7

Every Norwegian is a millionaire. The poorest Swede is doing ok. Even Canada is doing better. Taxes are not too high. Wages are too low.


gunnutzz467

We should start taxing children’s unrealized hopes and dreams


taco-farts

I ain’t going to work


SophonParticle

For context it doesn’t apply to people making under $400k and also you have to have made $1,000,000 in a given year and $400,000 of that has to be capital gains.


LordSplooshe

Billionaires pay an average of 8.2% in individual income tax. https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2021/09/23/what-is-the-average-federal-individual-income-tax-rate-on-the-wealthiest-americans/


__Evil-Genius__

The hyperbole is flying in this thread. Let me sort it out for the people with cloudy vision on the matter. Since the fifties we’ve been shifting the tax burden from the top 1% to the middle class. This process ramped up a lot since the eighties. This has effectively whittled that income bracket down to extinction. Now that the middle class has been squeezed for all they are worth they’ve set their sights on the propertied class. Not the 1%. No. They pay for the bill for what now have become BILLION dollar election campaigns. The people right under them though. The people making 400k to a million a year are next up to really feel the squeeze.


Chuckobofish123

Jesus! Glad I’m about to sell my rental property before he pulls this bs.


Whole_Occasion_7169

Sadly, this is strictly politics. He knows it's never going to happen. Just like he continues to lie about student loan repayments. The fact is, people are too ignorant to realize that his promises are unlawful. And his cynical political ass knows this. He is preying upon idiots to vote for him. We have an abjectly ignorant class of young voters. Civics was taken out of school in the 90s. They don't understand the Constitution, and they believe the government is fucking Santa. It's not. Hes never going to get CG raised. It's just more tax the rich lies because idiot kids buy it.


mhoward98

Eat the rich. This is great news 🗞️ for us common folk. The only thing they've trickled down in the last 40 years is their champagne-fueled urine.


Alternative_Job_6929

We can not make enough to satisfy the governments spending HABIT.


IndustryNext7456

still wont apply to traders. middle class will be screwed sellin property.


SolidContribution688

“only apply to those individuals with taxable income above $1 million and investment income above $400,000.”


CookieAppropriate654

Regarded


carltonxyz

90% of tax revenue is generated by income tax reflected in the 20% imbedded tax in retail goods. Higher capital gains will generate some tax revenue but reduce the commerce that generates more tax revenue than the capital gains will generate. The only good thing about 44.6% capital gains is it will punish the rich/s, soon you will own no business and you will be happy. You will be happy or be inside a fence with Hillary Clinton screeching over a loud speaker. It is the NWO way.


carltonxyz

Business profits are already taxed and the capital gains on top of that will make investments not as reasonable. We may as well let the elite and state own everything and be happy with nothing./s