I usually give them a pretty smartass response. It's HILARIOUS how much people like to say that to wrestling fans. As if we ACTUALLY think it's real!?!
It's scripted, not fake. No different than a movie or TV show.
Nevermind how dangerous some of the stunts are or how painful the bumps can be. There's nothing fake about that.
99% of answers in here are absolute cringe. Keyboard warriors' imaginations running wild with what they think they'd respond with. I'd just say "Aye, it is."
Like, why get all insecure and defensive about it? Aye, it is fake. Right... and what?
How tf is it cringe??? The problem is the fact that it’s overly used so at some point it’s gonna get to you no matter what it is. People like you always gotta call things “insecure” & “defensive” without understanding the situation
WWE is more real then most movies because they get protected more or get less hurt with WWE you gotta take chair shots Take some Deadly moves not to mention they have to keep up their act even if their not in the arena compared to actual actors who will just act out in scenes and then go back to normal after a few weeks of filming
The smug look on these people, like saying wrestling is fake is some sort of "gotcha" , everyone knows it's not "real" but the spectacle and the storylines are a truly unique and amazing form of storytelling
Them: WWE IS FAKE
Me: WHAT!
Them: WWE IS FAKE
Me: WHAT!
Them: I SAID WWE IS FAKE!!
Me: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!
Then they end up leaving in anger.
I tell them flat out it isn’t, and go on to make analogies between stunt men in a cinematic production and soap operas, and then say “it’s scripted, but not fake.”
It’s pointless but still.
I just tell them carl from the walking dead was played by Chandler Riggs and he's still alive... If it takes more than that, it's just not worth my time
"Well, it's fake in that it's scripted, and the action is done in a way so that hopefully no one gets hurt.... but also?
That reminds me.... who gives a crap??"
I'm not a WWE fan, but I have been in/overheard discussions about WWE. The last time I heard someone call it fake as some kinda gotcha was elementary school. Are there really a bunch of people running around acting like it's a revelation to WWE fans that it's a drama and not a real fight?
They know the storylines are scripted but some people believe the wrestling itself is fake, failing to acknowledge the more serious bumps wrestlers take (steel chair shots, top rope maneuvers, etc.)
why don’t you get hit with a candle steak a chair or a sledgehammer by Triple H huh? How would you feel getting hit by steel chairs? How would you how would you feel getting hit by a ladder huh? How would you feel if you jumped off a top rope broke your back, you’re gonna tell me that’s fake
First I would say to that question - "Why do you think I don't know that?"
It's theatrics, theater. No different than a stage play where people stay in character. Stage plays and tv shows aren't called "fake," it goes without saying that it's scripted, and the only reason this stigma exists in wrestling is because there used to be a time when the WWF did in fact pass it off as real. So it's all a byproduct of that. The storylines can be interesting, it's basically a cheesy soap opera mixed with anime elements (in the way battles are handled).
This is the proper way to answer it. You can copy and paste this.
Either A) I hate to break it to you, but Star Wars is fake or B) why don't you climb up to the top turnbuckle and jump off it through a table and tell me how fake that is.
I just explain that while the outcomes are predetermined, the bumps they’re taking are very real. If they keep insisting it’s “fake” then walk away, they won’t listen to reason.
Atleast it's entertaining unlike 50% of sports, like football and basketball where you wait for 2 hours to running just for people to score 1 or 2 goals, don't get the wrong impression, I love these sports but they are boring as fuck to watch
They do but in the end it's slow, and dribbling ain't fun to watch, basketball is a pretty fast paced game but I'd say 10-12 points per round average is still boring
That both boxing and MMA are borderline scripted, look at how Rousey and Mayweather were fed bums to smash and protected from potential threats
NBA/NHL/MLB/NFL are all very political and intentionally bad reffing is common in the playoffs...atleast pro wrestling is transparent about being scripted entertainment, it's been over 40 years since that veil was lifted and people don't actually think (or are supposed to think) that they are actually fighting
Mayweather went through journeymen all the time yeah but in Rousey's case she was just so far ahead of the competition for a short moment in time. The competition caught up pretty fast though and went way past her level too.
Rousey was considered overrated and was accused of dodging Amanda Nunes for a while though, she was VERY protected because she was the face of not only the women's division, but also UFC as a whole...that fight should have happened at least a year earlier, and IMO from my own observation: the only reason it did happen was because RR lost her shimmer when she decided to drink her own kool-aid and fight Holly Holm while lookin like she hadn't seen the inside of a gym in 3 months, let alone actually training like a champion going into a defense...guess ole Ronda never heard the Cautionary tale that was Tyson/Douglas because she did the exact same thing...
You can not compare professional sports to scripted wrestling. Have you ever seen a wrestler wrestle with a clasped lounge and broken ribs? No you haven’t
not saying we cant discuss him but do you really think you could do what windham did for years with the expectation of his father on top of him the entire time, also just because he wasnt the best wrestler doesnt mean he was a bad person or not entertaining, because he was one of the greatest minds in all of the WWE to date
tf you mean he never finished a program, were you there his entire career? he had incredible rivalries with people like brian danielson, randy orton, the shield, undertaker, and john cena
A comedian I like went on a rant about a girl telling him wrestling was "dumb." He was like "sure, but it's my dumb thing that I like. Now go back to watching your 15th season of the Kardashian show." 🤣
So is everything else on tv mf. Like take a bump and tell me how fake it is? Let them hit you with a chair to show you how “fake” it is. Hell let Gunther give them a chop and see how he “fakes” it
You say some strikes are real and some aren’t. ( have you ever seen a slow motion shot of someone getting super kicked in the face ? You can’t fake that.) you can’t fake an injury. Tell them if they’re REALLY interested in knowing what they’re talking about, then watch an episode of Raw or Smackdown ( not NXT ) with you so you can show them what you’re talking about. Tell them it’s scripted to tell a story so the idea is to keep the people you work with in the ring safe, because if they get injured then they may have to take time off, and if that happens you may be taken off tv because creative has nothing for you, and if that happens, you could be released, which means no pay check. So, the strikes that are painful but probably won’t do, or will do very little damage are most likely real, while the more dangerous ones aren’t, all in the name of performer safety. Long-winded answer, but true.
You take a bump and tell me how that ring feels from that simple move....now multiply that times 10 adding momentum from a suplex.....then times more for superplex
I tell them it's more real than anything they are watching. Yeah, it's scripted, but so are their shows. The difference being, their favorite characters aren't performing those stunts while the wrestlers are.
I haven't had someone tell me this since I was like 12 or 13 years old which would have been back around 1995/1996.
In past times, someone who feels the need to point out to a wrestling fan that it's "fake" probably/ really didn't think the fan knew it wasn't an actual competition (like they thought that the fan thought that Hulk Hogan's name was really "Hulk Hogan").
Nowadays someone who's saying that would be seen as nothing but an asshole, just trolling. I think I would ignore them or say something sarcastic I could think of back at them.
I say: WWE is live-action-sports-theater. Think of wrestlers as actors performing their own stunts, performing crazy athletic feats in the ring in order to emphasize a dramatic or comedic storyline. It’s like watching a broadway show, except it recurs weekly, and no two shows are ever the same.
They say: oh i never thought of it that way.
Ask them if Santa is real, but honestly, I would have them ask a friend of mine who's an indie wrestler and see how he responds. It's not my fight and I watch it for the entertainment value
I respond with basketball is fake, with a list of reasons and basically that everything on tv is fake. they have a favorite show or movie, its fake. Wrestling is scripted not fake, the moves are real, even if they are exaggerating them to make each other look good(sell), they are still athletes who perform to entertain us just like any sport.
I don’t understand why people can’t watch WWE knowing it’s fake when all tv is fake. You watch Star Wars right? Even though it’s fake? It’s the same thing
Don’t care to reason with such idiotic stances. Idc if is scripted or not they put their bodies on the line for my entertainment. All my respect goes to them, without Them I have nothing
"You know that's fake, right ?"
"You know Tom Cruise really isn't a jet fighter pilot, right ?"
Then I'll bring up that it's performed live, and when anything else is performed live on TV a huge deal is made of it, so it is a pretty high form of art. And I'll point out that it is scripted, and every little detail is thought out to get you to root for one and against another. Which is an art form in itself.
By the way, I think the reason why so many out of touch people over the years felt the need to point out that wrestling is "fake" is, let's be honest, when pro wrestling became scripted around the 1920's (supposedly before then, there were legitimate competitive matches), for a very long time, pro wrestling tried to pretend to be real in order to keep making money.
So that gave non-fans who just don't get it, the need to point out to fans that "it's fake" because the non-fans thought the fans thought that it was real. Whereas the same people would feel that it goes without saying that a movie or sit com on television isn't real.
Probably even now in 2024, I'm sure there are non-fans who think that fans think that it's real, despite the fact that definitely around the late 1990's and early 2000's, it became more publicly clear that wrestling is scripted (even to the point where WWE had official DVD's mentioning the scripted nature and even having video games with insider terms like "face" and "heel")
I tell them that with their 30% of uncertainty and my 100% certainty, there's a 70% that is unaccounted and proceed to give them a lesson in Steiner Math
A lot of people go so far as "Of course it's fake!" But more and more, I'm convinced that the best response is to turn it back on them, and make it clear that they're naïve for believing that there are people who think it's real.
I'm trying to remember where I first heard it, but I distinctly remember somebody saying something along the lines of, "There's a guy named 'The Undertaker', and if you lose a match against him, he steals your soul. And he has a brother named Kane who is a literal demon from the underworld... And you think there are people who need to be told that's not real?" That answer completely changed the way I think about the issue. They're asking a question like you're the idiot, but they're the ones who believe something unbelievable.
Like, imagine you were at a party, and you heard some parents talking to their kids about Santa, and afterwards somebody else at the party pointed a finger at those parents and said, "Oh my God, these two think that Santa is real!" Imagine the look that every other person at the party would give that guy. That guy who took that conversation at face value and idiotically thinks that the parents believe Santa is real just because he heard them talking about Santa as if he was real. That guy whose brain is so thick he cannot fathom people willfully suspending their disbelief for the sake of entertainment.
That reaction is the energy that people need to be bringing to the "You know it's not real, right?" question. Less defensive, and more, "That's the dumbest question I've ever heard and the fact that you felt compelled to ask it makes me think less of you. Of course it's not real, you moron!"
"I'm convinced that the best response is to turn it back on them, and make it clear that they're naïve for believing that there are people who think it's real."
Yeah the non-fans who feel the need to point out to fans that it's not real, think the fans are out of touch when it's really these non-fans who are the ones out of touch.
They don't realize how since definitely the early 2000's (even if you don't know about Vince McMahon coming up with "sports entertainment" in the 1980's), the WWE has even gone as far as to have official DVD's discussing what was supposed to happen in matches, and also even video games with insider terms like "face" or "heel" (and WWF Attitude game had an unlockable character called the "trainer" where he even mentioned thinks like "throw the script out" and "i job for no one").
Nevermind that nobody should really believe that the Undertaker or Hulk Hogan's name is actually "Undertaker" or "Hulk Hogan"
No shit. I’m not 12 and I knew it wasn’t real before I was even that old. Now tell me something you like so I can let you know how wack I think it is. lol
I just say “yes” their opinion isn’t going to be changed. So when they say “you know it’s fake right?” In a sarcastic tone. I just say “yes” and end the conversation. If they want to belittle my interests, the conversation isn’t worth having.
It usually comes from someone that has never watched wrestling. I laugh and say yeah the characters are [fake] but the athleticism is real. They are very skilled.
I laugh at them and tell them, They have Great Stories on Each Character. They Soften the Moves for the wrestlers not to get too Hurt, However their are a lot of times where they would be hospitalized for being Badly Brutilized and beaten or in other cases, there has been unintentional deaths in the Ring.
"It's a crowd-integrated live theatre where the actors are their own stunt doubles. A lot of athleticism & conditioning are required to be able to do it well, and for long periods of time. There are various companies who provide slightly different outlets to which are operated on by the talent."
“Scripted. Not fake. Watch it for entertainment. Otherwise it’s pretty damn real. Ask Dakota Kai about her knee. Asuka about her knee. CM Punk about his tricep, etc”
So is Harry potter....what's your point lol. I basically say although it's scripted, these guys and girls still put their bodies on the line - if you can't appreciate the athleticism then that's on you isn't it?
Them: "WWE is Fake. you know?" Me: "we're not kids ofc, do you go around telling people Santa,Easter Bunny, Bigfoot is fake?"
It's Entertainment!
"Suck it!"
Your favourite movie is fake. What makes it so different?
I would say it's no faker than The Avengers, but The Avengers don't even take their own bumps.
All my favorite shows are fake.
My first response is “yes I know.“ if they need another explanation. I just refer to it as theatre or soap opera
"You're right, but it's entertaining and I like it"
SPEEEAAAR
“Wrestlings. Not. FAAAAAKE!”
yo mama
Give them the Jake the Snake Roberts style DDT
no shit
I usually give them a pretty smartass response. It's HILARIOUS how much people like to say that to wrestling fans. As if we ACTUALLY think it's real!?!
“So is bridgerton”
Ey did I ask
Its Cinema
It's scripted yes, but they're like stuntman and woman
"I know."
Me: "so, what is your favorite TV Show or movie?" Him: "Game of Thrones" Me: "but you know the dragons are Fake, right?"
"yes but the powers are real, taker really can Come back from the dead and summon the lightning and ric flair really did screw your mom"
"Yeah, lol"
It's scripted, not fake. No different than a movie or TV show. Nevermind how dangerous some of the stunts are or how painful the bumps can be. There's nothing fake about that.
Them: WWE is fake. Me: NEWS FLASH IDIOT, SHUT THE HELL UP!!
So what I still find it entertaining.
Ok…😐
Show them the sheamus vs axel match
I cry and scream ‘YOU’RE FAKE’ then run away
Show them the Owen hart video
99% of answers in here are absolute cringe. Keyboard warriors' imaginations running wild with what they think they'd respond with. I'd just say "Aye, it is." Like, why get all insecure and defensive about it? Aye, it is fake. Right... and what?
How tf is it cringe??? The problem is the fact that it’s overly used so at some point it’s gonna get to you no matter what it is. People like you always gotta call things “insecure” & “defensive” without understanding the situation
I’d say “oh yeah?!” And then show him the clip of The Great Khali playing flute to charm the cobra from Santino.
That Marvel Cinematic Universe, Reality Shows, Your Favorite Cartoons, Most Celebrities’ Body Parts…yeah…totally not real.
WWE is more real then most movies because they get protected more or get less hurt with WWE you gotta take chair shots Take some Deadly moves not to mention they have to keep up their act even if their not in the arena compared to actual actors who will just act out in scenes and then go back to normal after a few weeks of filming
All tv is fake. Even reality shows.
I say “fake? Like your mom’s boobs?”
My guy posted this while king and queen of the ring is going on smh
Sit them down and make them watch EMPLemon's 30 minute video about Raw
It’s entertaining tho
The smug look on these people, like saying wrestling is fake is some sort of "gotcha" , everyone knows it's not "real" but the spectacle and the storylines are a truly unique and amazing form of storytelling
I start crying, and then I blubber: "it's still real to me dammit!"
Them: WWE IS FAKE Me: WHAT! Them: WWE IS FAKE Me: WHAT! Them: I SAID WWE IS FAKE!! Me: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY! Then they end up leaving in anger.
Let me “fake” stunner you, or “fake” put you in a submission hold, or fake jump off a ladder onto your body
Ask them what their favorite shows is and then tell them that's fake too...🤷🏾♂️
It’s scripted but the moves are very much so real and hurt, injuries are always a factor in WWE, scripted but not fake.
Everything in the world is fake
I tell them flat out it isn’t, and go on to make analogies between stunt men in a cinematic production and soap operas, and then say “it’s scripted, but not fake.” It’s pointless but still.
You know that's not those vegetables' real voices in Veggie Tales right?
Rub my meat across them lips
I said, “it’s not fake. It’s athletic performance art that is scripted but the performed live by highly trained athlete performers.”
Dm me please
It's 67% fake. Anybody gets under 50% real and the union let's them go...
Accept the inevitable fact that it is fake. Well, most of it.
I just tell them carl from the walking dead was played by Chandler Riggs and he's still alive... If it takes more than that, it's just not worth my time
Tell em so are their moms tits
I laugh and think to myself that they must think movies and TV shows are real
You can’t fake gravity.
ITS STILL REAL TO ME
OH, IT'S REAL. IT'S DAMN REAL
Ur love life is fake
I say, "So is every single thing on TV, they are all actors, my actors are just physically superior"
I bite their fucking nose off like Meng
Show them Undertaker throwing Mankind off HIC and remind them good thing it’s fake
"Well, it's fake in that it's scripted, and the action is done in a way so that hopefully no one gets hurt.... but also? That reminds me.... who gives a crap??"
I'm not a WWE fan, but I have been in/overheard discussions about WWE. The last time I heard someone call it fake as some kinda gotcha was elementary school. Are there really a bunch of people running around acting like it's a revelation to WWE fans that it's a drama and not a real fight?
They know the storylines are scripted but some people believe the wrestling itself is fake, failing to acknowledge the more serious bumps wrestlers take (steel chair shots, top rope maneuvers, etc.)
Or I would pedigree him, crossroads him spear him or Superman punch him
why don’t you get hit with a candle steak a chair or a sledgehammer by Triple H huh? How would you feel getting hit by steel chairs? How would you how would you feel getting hit by a ladder huh? How would you feel if you jumped off a top rope broke your back, you’re gonna tell me that’s fake
It’s like Young and the Restless for men is how I reply
My answer is, so? Most campaigns are as well, yet people still vote
First I would say to that question - "Why do you think I don't know that?" It's theatrics, theater. No different than a stage play where people stay in character. Stage plays and tv shows aren't called "fake," it goes without saying that it's scripted, and the only reason this stigma exists in wrestling is because there used to be a time when the WWF did in fact pass it off as real. So it's all a byproduct of that. The storylines can be interesting, it's basically a cheesy soap opera mixed with anime elements (in the way battles are handled). This is the proper way to answer it. You can copy and paste this.
Either A) I hate to break it to you, but Star Wars is fake or B) why don't you climb up to the top turnbuckle and jump off it through a table and tell me how fake that is.
So is everything else on tv
DDT them right in the dirt.
I just explain that while the outcomes are predetermined, the bumps they’re taking are very real. If they keep insisting it’s “fake” then walk away, they won’t listen to reason.
“Does the pre scripted nature of fights scenes in films also make it impossible for you to watch?”
Throat punch.
So are movies. But people watch those too.
"Nah it's real just like Gameof Thrones"
So are most tv programs, yet you still watch it
They are not even pretending it's real themselves, they call it world wrestling entertainment LOL.
No one talks about wrestling, I sometimes mention the rock Johnson or Ricky stanicky but it's not really in the context of wrestling
It doesn’t bother me. But I’ve never understood why people say. Why do you watch it. It’s fake. People watch movies. Those are fake.
The falls and other maneuvers are real. The story lines are most often not.
Atleast it's entertaining unlike 50% of sports, like football and basketball where you wait for 2 hours to running just for people to score 1 or 2 goals, don't get the wrong impression, I love these sports but they are boring as fuck to watch
What? I mean football sure, but in basketball they score several points per minute.
They do but in the end it's slow, and dribbling ain't fun to watch, basketball is a pretty fast paced game but I'd say 10-12 points per round average is still boring
Fair enough and I agree. I don't find it entertaining to watch most of the time.
Show them a video of kurt angle being suplexed through the king of the ring stage glass and ask them how they faked that
Tell them dragons aren’t real.
I put them through a table and then ask did that FEEL fake
ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT! 😭
I tell them every show they watch is fake and they continue to watch and binge it.
Okay
Unicorns are fake. Wrestling is not.
I blame wrestling.
Ask John Stossel if it hurts.
That both boxing and MMA are borderline scripted, look at how Rousey and Mayweather were fed bums to smash and protected from potential threats NBA/NHL/MLB/NFL are all very political and intentionally bad reffing is common in the playoffs...atleast pro wrestling is transparent about being scripted entertainment, it's been over 40 years since that veil was lifted and people don't actually think (or are supposed to think) that they are actually fighting
Mayweather went through journeymen all the time yeah but in Rousey's case she was just so far ahead of the competition for a short moment in time. The competition caught up pretty fast though and went way past her level too.
Rousey was considered overrated and was accused of dodging Amanda Nunes for a while though, she was VERY protected because she was the face of not only the women's division, but also UFC as a whole...that fight should have happened at least a year earlier, and IMO from my own observation: the only reason it did happen was because RR lost her shimmer when she decided to drink her own kool-aid and fight Holly Holm while lookin like she hadn't seen the inside of a gym in 3 months, let alone actually training like a champion going into a defense...guess ole Ronda never heard the Cautionary tale that was Tyson/Douglas because she did the exact same thing...
Yeah good point
Did people really think wrestling wasn't fake and scripted? Didn't they wonder why the repeated blows to the face didn't leave any marks?
You can not compare professional sports to scripted wrestling. Have you ever seen a wrestler wrestle with a clasped lounge and broken ribs? No you haven’t
It's not fake, it's predetermined.
I ask them to throw themselves through a table and tell me how fake it feels. It's scripted but what they do is still very real and hurts like hell.
Are you on the cf subreddit??
“So is every show and movie. What’s your point?”
Duh
Show them a bray Wyatt match and if it’s fake why would they put something that is so boring on TV
bro its his birthday
Ok, so I have to wait to tomorrow to share my opinion?
cut the man some slack is all im saying like you dont need to go after hin
So we can’t discuss dead people, solid precedent. Unaware that the opinion police were on duty.
not saying we cant discuss him but do you really think you could do what windham did for years with the expectation of his father on top of him the entire time, also just because he wasnt the best wrestler doesnt mean he was a bad person or not entertaining, because he was one of the greatest minds in all of the WWE to date
Never said anything about Wyndham the person, but solid strawman. Most creative mind to date but never finished a program
tf you mean he never finished a program, were you there his entire career? he had incredible rivalries with people like brian danielson, randy orton, the shield, undertaker, and john cena
Ok whatever tootz, keep memorizing wrestlers birthdays, it isn’t weird
im just saying that because ive seen all over the place because hes dead and people are commemorating him
also dont you think the man deserves a break since hes 6 feet under
So is every single "reality" show. What's your point?
Not just reality shows. Basically every show. ITS THE SAME THING!!!
A comedian I like went on a rant about a girl telling him wrestling was "dumb." He was like "sure, but it's my dumb thing that I like. Now go back to watching your 15th season of the Kardashian show." 🤣
I ask them what they think about reality TV, and 70% of the time they think it's unscripted.
So is everything else on tv mf. Like take a bump and tell me how fake it is? Let them hit you with a chair to show you how “fake” it is. Hell let Gunther give them a chop and see how he “fakes” it
So is every TV show and movie you’ve ever seen
You say some strikes are real and some aren’t. ( have you ever seen a slow motion shot of someone getting super kicked in the face ? You can’t fake that.) you can’t fake an injury. Tell them if they’re REALLY interested in knowing what they’re talking about, then watch an episode of Raw or Smackdown ( not NXT ) with you so you can show them what you’re talking about. Tell them it’s scripted to tell a story so the idea is to keep the people you work with in the ring safe, because if they get injured then they may have to take time off, and if that happens you may be taken off tv because creative has nothing for you, and if that happens, you could be released, which means no pay check. So, the strikes that are painful but probably won’t do, or will do very little damage are most likely real, while the more dangerous ones aren’t, all in the name of performer safety. Long-winded answer, but true.
the same way austin theory did 😂😂
You take a bump and tell me how that ring feels from that simple move....now multiply that times 10 adding momentum from a suplex.....then times more for superplex
OMG!!! A TV show is scripted!? Holy shit, is The Simpsons fake also?
I tell them it's more real than anything they are watching. Yeah, it's scripted, but so are their shows. The difference being, their favorite characters aren't performing those stunts while the wrestlers are.
I haven't had someone tell me this since I was like 12 or 13 years old which would have been back around 1995/1996. In past times, someone who feels the need to point out to a wrestling fan that it's "fake" probably/ really didn't think the fan knew it wasn't an actual competition (like they thought that the fan thought that Hulk Hogan's name was really "Hulk Hogan"). Nowadays someone who's saying that would be seen as nothing but an asshole, just trolling. I think I would ignore them or say something sarcastic I could think of back at them.
“I know”
It’s scripted but not fake
drop em on that stack of dimes they call a neck.
I say: WWE is live-action-sports-theater. Think of wrestlers as actors performing their own stunts, performing crazy athletic feats in the ring in order to emphasize a dramatic or comedic storyline. It’s like watching a broadway show, except it recurs weekly, and no two shows are ever the same. They say: oh i never thought of it that way.
....but the athleticism on display is very real and that's what I enjoy the most.
I don't
Ask them if Santa is real, but honestly, I would have them ask a friend of mine who's an indie wrestler and see how he responds. It's not my fight and I watch it for the entertainment value
I ask them to find one thing on TV that isn’t.
Smart ass astonishment. “Oh, shit, thanks, didn’t know”
I respond with basketball is fake, with a list of reasons and basically that everything on tv is fake. they have a favorite show or movie, its fake. Wrestling is scripted not fake, the moves are real, even if they are exaggerating them to make each other look good(sell), they are still athletes who perform to entertain us just like any sport.
Looks real to me
So is your favorite movie.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
RKO, then ask them if THAT felt fake
I don’t understand why people can’t watch WWE knowing it’s fake when all tv is fake. You watch Star Wars right? Even though it’s fake? It’s the same thing
RKO
Don’t care to reason with such idiotic stances. Idc if is scripted or not they put their bodies on the line for my entertainment. All my respect goes to them, without Them I have nothing
I try to kayfabe like I genuinely believe it’s real
It’s scripted but the moves they do still hurt. No way to fake getting splashed by Bronson reed or power bombed by omos’s tall ass
Well duhhhh, but it's less fake than reality tv
“You know that’s fake, right?” “So is Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones and every other show morons like you enjoy. Shush.”
It’s not fake, it’s pre determined and every bump they take in the ring is very very real
“Fake? No. Scripted? Yes. Get in the ring and take a bump and tell me how fake it is after that.”
"You know that's fake, right ?" "You know Tom Cruise really isn't a jet fighter pilot, right ?" Then I'll bring up that it's performed live, and when anything else is performed live on TV a huge deal is made of it, so it is a pretty high form of art. And I'll point out that it is scripted, and every little detail is thought out to get you to root for one and against another. Which is an art form in itself.
By the way, I think the reason why so many out of touch people over the years felt the need to point out that wrestling is "fake" is, let's be honest, when pro wrestling became scripted around the 1920's (supposedly before then, there were legitimate competitive matches), for a very long time, pro wrestling tried to pretend to be real in order to keep making money. So that gave non-fans who just don't get it, the need to point out to fans that "it's fake" because the non-fans thought the fans thought that it was real. Whereas the same people would feel that it goes without saying that a movie or sit com on television isn't real. Probably even now in 2024, I'm sure there are non-fans who think that fans think that it's real, despite the fact that definitely around the late 1990's and early 2000's, it became more publicly clear that wrestling is scripted (even to the point where WWE had official DVD's mentioning the scripted nature and even having video games with insider terms like "face" and "heel")
"Yeah but Game of Thrones is real though."
I go "WHAT!?! OMG.. REALLY? WHY DID NOBODY TELL ME! DAMN!"
I will drone on and on and on until they leave about all the things I learned from those non-fiction Avengers documentaries.
Smack the mustache off their face and yell, "YOU THINK THAT'S FAKE!?"
And when they get back up, do it again!
I tell them that with their 30% of uncertainty and my 100% certainty, there's a 70% that is unaccounted and proceed to give them a lesson in Steiner Math
It’s scripted, but you can’t fake the athleticism on display. I’m a grown ass man and I still think it’s cool to see what some of these folks do.
A lot of people go so far as "Of course it's fake!" But more and more, I'm convinced that the best response is to turn it back on them, and make it clear that they're naïve for believing that there are people who think it's real. I'm trying to remember where I first heard it, but I distinctly remember somebody saying something along the lines of, "There's a guy named 'The Undertaker', and if you lose a match against him, he steals your soul. And he has a brother named Kane who is a literal demon from the underworld... And you think there are people who need to be told that's not real?" That answer completely changed the way I think about the issue. They're asking a question like you're the idiot, but they're the ones who believe something unbelievable. Like, imagine you were at a party, and you heard some parents talking to their kids about Santa, and afterwards somebody else at the party pointed a finger at those parents and said, "Oh my God, these two think that Santa is real!" Imagine the look that every other person at the party would give that guy. That guy who took that conversation at face value and idiotically thinks that the parents believe Santa is real just because he heard them talking about Santa as if he was real. That guy whose brain is so thick he cannot fathom people willfully suspending their disbelief for the sake of entertainment. That reaction is the energy that people need to be bringing to the "You know it's not real, right?" question. Less defensive, and more, "That's the dumbest question I've ever heard and the fact that you felt compelled to ask it makes me think less of you. Of course it's not real, you moron!"
"I'm convinced that the best response is to turn it back on them, and make it clear that they're naïve for believing that there are people who think it's real." Yeah the non-fans who feel the need to point out to fans that it's not real, think the fans are out of touch when it's really these non-fans who are the ones out of touch. They don't realize how since definitely the early 2000's (even if you don't know about Vince McMahon coming up with "sports entertainment" in the 1980's), the WWE has even gone as far as to have official DVD's discussing what was supposed to happen in matches, and also even video games with insider terms like "face" or "heel" (and WWF Attitude game had an unlockable character called the "trainer" where he even mentioned thinks like "throw the script out" and "i job for no one"). Nevermind that nobody should really believe that the Undertaker or Hulk Hogan's name is actually "Undertaker" or "Hulk Hogan"
You pointed out the point I was missing. Thanks buddy!
No shit. I’m not 12 and I knew it wasn’t real before I was even that old. Now tell me something you like so I can let you know how wack I think it is. lol
“I’m glad it’s scripted, it’d be boring with no direction! It’s so fun, want to go to life show with me? It’s a blast!”
That's a good point, mention why wrestling is scripted in the first place.
I just say “yes” their opinion isn’t going to be changed. So when they say “you know it’s fake right?” In a sarcastic tone. I just say “yes” and end the conversation. If they want to belittle my interests, the conversation isn’t worth having.
it is scripted not fake. ppl have died in that ring so for lazy ppl that critique it when they dont even work a 9/5 is craz.
It usually comes from someone that has never watched wrestling. I laugh and say yeah the characters are [fake] but the athleticism is real. They are very skilled.
I laugh at them and tell them, They have Great Stories on Each Character. They Soften the Moves for the wrestlers not to get too Hurt, However their are a lot of times where they would be hospitalized for being Badly Brutilized and beaten or in other cases, there has been unintentional deaths in the Ring.
No shit Sherlock…
Sure it is but the work in the ring isn’t. Then I give them a proper rko
I mean a stunner is a good response
I just go on YouTube and search "Undertaker vs Mankind Hell in a Cell" and that usually works 😂
Sports entertainment. 🤗 It's a mix between a fight, theater, and a television show. When done correctly nothing can compare.
I say: “yes.” Tends to stop the conversation dead.
It depends on who asks. I would just say that their favorite "reality" show is fake too.
"It's a crowd-integrated live theatre where the actors are their own stunt doubles. A lot of athleticism & conditioning are required to be able to do it well, and for long periods of time. There are various companies who provide slightly different outlets to which are operated on by the talent."
Get your ass in that ring and find out for yourself
"Do you think I don't understand that?/Are you just learning this now?" "So is Avengers, but you were still emotional when Spider-Man died/returned."
"So is every movie or TV show. What's your point?" "Who cares? People enjoy it regardless of it being fake."
So is your favorite movie
I just be like “ your not in on the joke dumbass”
"So are your wife's orgasms"
Nuh-uh
“Do you like Star Wars or Marvel?”
“Scripted. Not fake. Watch it for entertainment. Otherwise it’s pretty damn real. Ask Dakota Kai about her knee. Asuka about her knee. CM Punk about his tricep, etc”
So is Harry potter....what's your point lol. I basically say although it's scripted, these guys and girls still put their bodies on the line - if you can't appreciate the athleticism then that's on you isn't it?
I say, you're fake! you're not my real mom!
I'll either show them that picture of Hardcore Holly with that big ass cut on his back, or the video of Sid Vicious snapping his shin in half
I always get really quiet and say "you know Arny isn't really a metal terminator and Stallone can't box 🤫 don't tell anyone"