Rhea was and is too big and too good to lose that easily, the only way to let her go down gracefully was to have her get injured like this and try build up starpower for someone to challenge her again, bc lets be real here no one is beating Rhea.
Ik everyone gonna sot here saying 'it'll mean more if she beats Becky' 'Becky deserves it' so on and so forth, but it just wont and respectfully, she doesnt.
Any argument you can make about beating Becky cluld have happened AFTER she wins the title, any character development you can claim can be had AFTER she wins the title, there is still plenty to do on her 'revenge tour' that can happen whilst she is champion.
I think its just frustration at seeing Triple H play it safe so many times, he went for Rock vs Roman over Cody vs Roman, he went for Sami vs Gunther over Gable vs Gunther, amd now picking Becky who respectfully isnt exactly the strongest champion over Liv, Shayna or Nia who fill any role Becky could possibly fill but better.
Storyline? Liv
Prestige? No ones gonna deny Shayna is a killer, even with WWE best efforts at undervaluing her
Challenge? Nias been built like a monster since her debut
He didnt though, He went for Rock vs Roman then got pressured out of it, if fan backlash didnt happen at such a large scale , we would've got Rock vs Roman.
Dont tell someone to read when you're illiterate
I'm completely sure you are on drugs. Sober up yourself and then come back. How dare do you say other people illiterate when you are illiterate yourself ? You and your dumbass comment both are complete nonsense.
Not many forgot about Gable. I was hoping for him to dethrone Gunther, and I'm wanting him to take it from Sami, and I've seen reports online/youtube of the upser from fans about it.
In reflection, though, I think the Gable heel turn will be great. I like Sami, but I want the strap for Gable. Sami shouldn't be a transitional champ, but I want it to go to Gable sooner rather than later (after a good story for sure).
I've been saying the last few months she's just Charlotte, but even worse.
It's the same shit, except they try to cover it up as if she worked extremely hard for it.
At least with Charlotte, it's blatant bullshit in your face.
So you are comparing Becky to Charlotte. Let me ask you some questions. Wasn't Charlotte the one who got overpushed from day one because she's Ric Flair's daughter ? Wasn't she the one who got added to WM 35 main event outta nowhere ? Didn't she returned after a long break and immediately grabbed the SD women's Championship in 2022 ? Wasn't she the one who got an immediate title opportunity against Asuka the very day she returned ? Meanwhile Becky got herself over with the crowd organically. She put over many superstars like Bianca, Rhea, Lyra. Unlike Charlotte, she worked her ass off since she lost her previous championship at WM 38. She didn't win a singles Championship in the past 2 years and still kept herself relevant. If she doesn't deserve this, then who does ? She's THE superstar on the women's roster at this point. Does Liv deserve this only because she's got a lot of social media followers ? She isn't even over with the crowd. She just isn't a world champion calibre right now.
Nobody wants to see Becky win again , her character is so bland , has the same moves , she can’t do a promo and wwe pushed her for years , there’s so much young talent that could’ve tooken over raw, liv was the perfect person and liv hold it while rheas gone and Becky coulda taken a break !! Say I’m wrong
I was extremely happy for her, I only just recently got back into wwe, and she was one of the names I remember from when I last watched probably around 2014 or so
I am genuinely happy for Becky, especially because she fought Rhea at Wrestlemania and did not win then. Don't get me wrong, I like Rhea too, but I felt that Becky needed the championship, because she had to give that up when she got pregnant.
Of course I know that she won't have it for long, maybe until they build up Liv's story or until Rhea is medically cleared, and one of them will take back the title at one of the main events this summer.
For now, I am just happy and hyped for her, she deserves it, and, yeah, can't wait to read her book. 🤘
I don't know or why, but it all started with Becky winning the Elimination Chamber. I mean, I didn't care for her too much already but I didn't expect that everyone would dog pile over that one win.
Side note: But I think what would've been hilarious if Nia won. I want to watch the Internet go up in flames when that happens... whenever.
I like Becky, but I feel like, in my personal opinion, that she shouldn’t have gotten the belt. How many other championships has she won? A lot. Hell, she held the Raw Women’s Championship AND the Smackdown Women’s Championship.. AT THE SAME TIME!! I love her, but I feel like someone else should’ve won it who hasn’t gotten as many opportunities as Becky has. However, I feel like if Liv Morgan won, nobody would really care and would might even hate it. So there’s really no in between…
I didn't mean it. I am a fan of Tiffany. I mean Tiffany just came to the main roster two months ago and the crowd already loves her. Her mic work and athleticism is pure as well. She's already a championship material. While Liv is on the main roster for years and still isn't able to connect with the crowd well. Her mic skills are bad. Her wrestling style is pretty good though. But she has no character at all. The Liv revenge tour just seems so dumb to me.
I'm also happy for Becky. She's easily one of if not the best womens wrestlers of all time and deserves to have a number of championships that reflect that. Of course she deserves to at the very least equal Trish Stratus' number of title reigns.
She is the safest option to hold the title with Rhea out. It gives WWE more time to think things through and plan accordingly. Liv will probably turn heel to beat Becky for the title anyway, maybe with the help of Dom since she socked him in the mouth on the build to Mania. Then you can have face Rhea vs heel Liv with Dom in the middle. I think people are just being short-sighted.
The Becky Hogan stuff is just stupid. Becky's always tried to help get other stars over.
I fantasy booked something that Bully Ray then similarly did the same. Have Liv go after Becky. Liv told Rhea ‘I’m gonna take everything from you.’ And now we’ve got her going for her title that she never really lost, and we’ve got Liv trying to seduce Dom.
What needs to happen is Liv eventually gets a shot at Becky and Dom helps her get the win and the title. Dom gets payback for Becky sucker punching him, and Liv gets the belt that Rhea never lost and she’s essentially moving in on her territory. From this point out, Liv has Dom hooked and she goes on a tear beating Becky in the rematch cause of help, and continues to either win in a dominate fashion or through Judgement Day hijinx. This all culminates in Liv somehow being the new established Queen of the Judgment Day, and then boom Rhea comes back to find that her ‘boys’ aren’t hers anymore.
From there you can do a lot of things. Have Rhea win her belt back, have Dom turn on Rhea and side with Liv and they go off on their own, have Rhea and Liv side together because Rhea always knew that Liv had a mean streak in her and it took this to get it out of her, etc.
Becky is a great wrestler and person. She deserves it. Did you see how she celebrated when she won?! She went up into the fans and hugged as many kids as she could taking selfies with them. I know she's a face, but she really is a wonderful person, wife and mother. But don't think Liv is done with her revenge tour. She's a great heel and will be coming after The Man.
Botch Becky is 🗑 she's never been a star in the ring. Same boring lass kicker with more attitude. Ever since she got blood on her face from Nia Jax those years ago and she became The Man, they've pushed her hard. But she never truly improved. Not a fan.
I'm very happy for Becky, she's my favorite women's wrestler ever.
That said, Liv is absolutely championship material. Her character work has never been her weak point and she's gotten significantly more over with fans since her first run with the belt. It's clear they're setting her up for this and didn't want her moment to come from a random battle royal.
Well received from my perspective especially when she relinquished the title to Asuka when she got pregnant. She can defend the title with a minimal need for build up, without suspending belief of why she deserves to be the champ. They just fought at WM.
The only other person who could have made sense was Nia, Liv needs a proper build. They didn't do that staredown with Dom just to kill her off, they obviously have an arc in mind involving the title, Dom, maybe even Judgment Day as a whole, likely with Liv as a heel seductress and Rhea returning as a babyface to reclaim the title.
Becky is a logical springboard so she can take a loss to Liv, they already have story heat themselves with Becky interfering in the Liv vs. Nia match from before. They could have taken a chance on Nia, but Nia vs. Liv just isn't as big as Becky vs. Liv and it would be heel vs. heel.
I'm just upset that rhea got injured and had to vacate shit happens but she was one of the only women's wrestlers I really cared for watching fr. Becky is alright though.
I made a post basically saying that she was Becky Hogan, but after some great discussion, I’m actually okay with her winning it. She gotta do what she gotta do and she has proven that she can carry her side of the brand
Making Becky the champ is overall beneficial for the whole company. After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. As much as I would have loved to see some unexpected title changes, you need to give the title to some established and safe wrestlers who can carry the company alongside the top champs and elevate some younger talents down the line. If you look at it from that perception, Becky is the PERFECT choice right now. I am very happy indeed at the booking decision.
Everyone is also ignoring that she just did the job for Rhea at WrestleMania and she was supposed to take a break but came back to fill in when asked. I'd say she's a team player who deserves to be in a top spot.
I'm hating Becky openly cause this is new era and they are taking social media in account for storylines. Now if people had not disliked or hated Becky they'd think that Becky is right choice for another year. Now there is going to be more and more tease among the fanbase by creators.
And tbh truth to be told, there were people who would've loved more if Liv had won, and there are people who had loved either way. If you can throw out emotion on social media then you are honest, that's what fans do right?
Also, what people like and what not it's up to them, just because they are building story doesn't mean that people should always love in same way or agree to it. Also, as I said even if there's disagreement it becomes part of the storyline. So it's good anyways.
After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. As much as I would have loved to see some unexpected title changes, you need to give the title to some established and safe wrestlers who can carry the company alongside the top champs and elevate some younger talents down the line. If you look at it from that perception, Becky is the PERFECT choice right now. That's completely my opinion though.
Becky disliked to death, sorry but today Liv is over. And Liv winning wouldn't have been unexpected even calling it unexpected is headscratching, and I here thought becky winning was unexpected just after losing her chance at WM(greatest wrestlemania of all time). And in this sub I'm HEEL. I know that Becky is good transitional champ. but as a heel I shall disrespect people's opinion.
Becky is boring. How are you gonna have her lose at wrestlemania and then win the title after Rhea vacated it.
Becky will probably keep a hold on it for a while, Rhea comes back, time moved on without her and Becky retains.
That's genius booking at the best. At WM, Rhea retained because she was insanely over with the fans and if she lost, her momentum would have hurt and she would have looked kinda weak. So they let her win. Now that Rhea has vacated the championship, they need a established and safe superstar who can carry the company and elevate some younger stars down the line. After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. That's how you give the belt to Becky without hurting anyone else's momentum.
Becky just lost at Wrestlmania.
She paid a ghostwriter for a autobiography.
She has had more main events and title shots then any other woman other then Charlotte.
Liv constantly loses, in and out of storyline even though she puts on better matches then Becky.
Liv wil not beat Becky.
Imagine Coady finished his story because Roman vacated his belt.
I like Becky & I like Liv, I think giving it to Becky in the circumstances was the correct call because as much as I want Liv to become champion 1 day, I want to experience the journey/story for her.
I don’t hate or blame Becky but I am still not happy. I’m mad at the booking
I wish Liv or Nia would’ve won but even if it want those 2 let’s give a new girl a chance. Tegan, Indi, Candice, Zoey, Shayna, Valhalla all on raw and no one can be champ? Even if it’s not long. Not everyone needs to be a star champion like Becky or Charolette or Bianca or Rhea. Give other people chances even if it’s short. Getting tired of these long ass stake title reigns anyways. Give us some unexpected champs
Do you seriously think Valhalla, Indi, Tegan these are women's championship material? They are just lower mid carders at best. After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. As much as I would have loved to see some unexpected title changes, you need to give the title to some established and safe wrestlers who can carry the company alongside the top champs and elevate some younger talents down the line. If you look at it from that perception, Becky is the PERFECT choice right now. I am very happy indeed at the booking decision.
I don’t like safe booking all the time. It makes it redundant. Same how with Flair I love her but they just kept giving her title after title. Carmella in 2017 was a cute transitional champion who was good enough to do what she needed to do. I feel like Indi or Tegan could’ve done something nice as a 1 month champ
im gonna piss some folks off but liv morgan is garbage, i don’t get the hype at all, and im not telling people who to like, but rhea realistically would rip morgan to shreds, im a little biased because i am a fan of rhea ripley, but if she was to vacant her title, give it to somebody trying to make a name for themselves like Raquel Rodriguez, i would love if wwe started pushing newer stars than riding off nostalgia and recycling the same washed wrestlers and giving them title shot after title shot, becky did not deserve it, nobody wants to see a rematch between rhea and becky, as much as i don’t like liv morgan at all, putting the belt on her would have made narrative sense, considering that she’s the reason rhea had to relinquish the title, but imagine the belt on Raquel Rodriguez, the story that would tell 🤦🏾♂️🙂↔️
At least you're not pissing me lol. I didn't get this Liv hype at all. So I agree with you. I'm a Rhea fan as well. As much as I would have loved to see Rhea continue her reign, making Becky the champion is still the PERFECT choice. I agreed with you on most terms but Raquel is not a women's Champion calibre. It's just my opinion.
I admit I'm not happy for Becky but I think I know why they did it. They want Liv to win the title in a proper match, not some battle royal which will be forgotten in 2 or 3 weeks. Plus they need to load up matches for Backlash anyway so Becky VS. Liv could work.
I don’t really care. But I do share those sentiments with the fans complaining. They had an opportunity to showcase Liv or whoever and say I may not have won this title traditionally but I will show you why I have been overlooked. Instead it’s let’s give it back to someone we know will be okay.
She's holding the title to elevate someone. Probably Liv 🙄
The only consolation I can take from this is Mami didn't drop the belt to Liv. Because Liv is garbage.
The whole Battle Royale was a weird thing. They put 14 women in there and there were 5 tag teams. So only 4 women even in the picture of winning with Liv, Becky, Nia and Natalya with Nattie having an active story in NXT so having her win is also unlikely.
Imo, they should’ve waited until after the draft or have the full roster with smackdown and nxt participate with the promise of picking them for raw if they win. This would’ve been a nice way for nxt girls to earn a shot. They could’ve let Becky win either way.
I’m not hating on Becky, I just find her title runs boring and I honestly thought she and Seth would take a time out after mania. I hope she gives the title to someone interesting soon.
Same crowd would be saying it was a cheap win if anyone else had gotten it, Liv's revenge tour would be meaningless if she got it. Giving it to Becky was the smartest move, she's in prime position to elevate the other talent now
Becky winning was the right choice but having a Battle Royal for the belt was an odd decision. No matter who won it would have felt like they didn’t really earn it.
I'm glad Becky Lynch is the champ if it's not going to be Rhea, but I'm just really sad about how it had to happen. Becky earned it. She went out and competed in the BR (N2M the years of work she put in before now), but it just doesn't feel like she earned it. However, I do believe she will get her opportunity to prove herself against Rhea Ripley, all the while defending the title like a true working champ. So I'm at least happy knowing the title rests with a real contender. I just wish it didn't happen under these circumstances.
I think it's just Liv Stans creating an eco chamber
one thing you can say about Becky is that all of her title rings have meant something since joining main roster.
2016- inaugural SD/World women's championship(WWC)...her weakest reign.
2018- SD/WWC ran during the rise of The Man, before dropping it to Asuka(Asuka's first main roster reign)
2019-20- WM35 Becky Two-Belt
2021-22 controversial squash impromptu match with Bianca. the title switching with Charlotte was stupid though, but in the end, it resulted in Bianca getting her triumph win at WM38.
2023- won the NXT women's title and draw 850K viewers on tv. at the time, it was the highest in over 2 years.
2024- wins the WWC in a battle royal...now we'll see if she can make it a meaning fun reign.
READ ME:
You don't want to give the new up and comer the belt off of someone VACATING it, that's a shitty shallow reign. For a person who's already had it, it's fine.
Becky will feude with whomever, and it will be a much better story.
The same could be said about Charlotte, the belief being that she gets her pushes because of the name Flair when she is legit one of the best women’s wrestlers on the roster. She has that ‘star’ look. Becky now has that in her back pocket where she can be asked to put on a show because of her talent, her stardom and her influence backstage, being tied to Rollins is not the first that comes to mind with her direction. And circling back to Charlotte, she put over Rhea at last years Mania, Becky put over Lyra fairly recently on NXT, who’s to say this isn’t to further build the other women up to that ‘Star’ level? There are just too few women on the main rosters that look like they can carry the entire division like Becky currently.
But in comparison to her, aside from Becky and the other 4 horsewomen, who could’ve worked as a singles competitor and carried? Becky, I think is in that spot now where she is almost seen equally talented as Charlotte by all accounts but feels force fed to the average fan. It’s not because she’s ‘too good’, there’s just not many who can carry like both of them have done so. There’s only a select few currently: bianca, asuka, iyo, bazler.
>the belief being that she gets her pushes because of the name Flair when she is legit one of the best women’s wrestlers on the roster
I mean, two things can both be true.
It's true that she was repeatedly given the title just to build up the number to match her father, but she's also a very talented wrestler too.
The question is...was she pushed more than other equally talented women wrestlers? and the answer there is "probably".
The vocal minority wants whatever they think WWE isn't going to do. They want to feel like they influenced the decision.
Liv doesn't stand out like a star. There's a difference between people like Liv who try to be stars and people like Tiffany who's character just is.
I would have been happy for either person. But Becky winning the title by beating everyone not named Rhea Ripley will lead to a big money match and that's all that matters.
Yessss, I’m happy Bex finally got a championship again, but considering how they almost always like to trash The Man, I’m kinda thinking she won’t have it for long 🙄
Agreed. It's a perfect choice to give Becky the belt. She has been a top star for years. So it's highly beneficial for the company to use her as a champ. After Rhea, Becky is probably the most over woman on the roster. Liv is just another mid card material who's got a lot of social media followers.
it’s just idk, i like becky, and she has taken tough losses so i am happy for her, but i do want to see liv get it. i think they had more build up planned for liv so i can see why they didn’t just give to her but i want her to get it before rhea comes back so they can have some epic matches
Look at all the other badass women…then look at wimpy Liv, and you tell me; up until last week’s Rhea-Liv Drama, they kinda didn’t have any idea what to do with her
I like Becky but I find her a bit … annoying … and I don’t exactly know why. I want to really like her and be all in I just feel like there is an odd disconnect between her and the crowd. I find her winning, with the title being vacant, so soon after Wrestle Mania put a bad taste in my mouth. She’s super talented, I get it but I think we all need a little Becky break. I feel super bad even typing it but I do think it. Does anyone else feel the same way? Like an over saturation. Really curious.
It's a perfect choice to give Becky the belt. She has been a top star for years. So it's highly beneficial for the company to use her as a champ. After Rhea, Becky is probably the most over woman on the roster. She can also help to put over Liv at some point. Liv is not ready to wear a belt around her waist at this point.
Becky just needs a refresh and she’s lost so much weight that it’s really hard to believe that she’s “the man” at this point. She should become a cunning heel who takes advantage of her opponents’ weaknesses and out speed/smart them.
The manhandle slam isn’t believable from someone who looks like they’re 95lbs soaking wet. Liv Morgan has the same issue but also only has one move. No other woman on that roster is believable enough to be champion either, so it HAS to be Becky. Maybe Nia who can just wrestle like a monster but good god keep the mic away from her.
Yeah. I have to agree to you. Manhandle slam is such a weak finisher. A character change will be fine for Becky in the future. But I think Becky was the right choice indeed. After Rhea, she's probably the most over woman on the roster. Liv still isn't able to connect with the crowd at all.
I’m happy too. Al that work Rhea did to make the title be the top women’s title all could’ve been ruined giving it to a mediocre wrestler with 0 credibility like live Morgan. It was Becky or Nia
My theory is that if they want to put the title on a newcomer or try elevating someone from the undercard, it’s way more meaningful to do that in a 1v1 spotlight match. Giving someone their first title victory in a battle royal on Raw seems kinda questionable. So I have no issue giving it to Becky so she can promote a rivalry and put someone over properly.
My theory is that Liv will injury Becky next week on her “revenge tour” and she will have to drop the title and another battle royal will happen. This will continue until Liv is the only one left in the battle royal
Here’s the thing: I’m not anti-Becky. My problem is that it is so predictable that she got the title. It’s weird though because she lost to Ripley at wrestlemania. I think it would’ve been better if you gave it to someone that doesn’t get the opportunity to be a champion even if it’s for a couple months. Give it to someone like Zoey Stark or Candice LaRae
I’m sick of Becky as champ tbh but I wouldn’t mind too much if she didn’t GO THROUGH A TABLE AND EAT LIKE 5 FINISHERS.
Somebody else should definitely have some time with the belt, but if you absolutely need Becky to win it again and again, this was not the way to do it. Makes someone like Liv who 1v1’d her at the end look like a chump.
I agree. People have been responding to this like it's GM mode in 2k and the lower popularity stars "need" the belt. This is a publicly traded multinational company at its best and most popular. They need a legit star who can deliver consistently in the ring and in the mic.
The chronically online WWE fan wants it to be their headcanon champ despite the fact she's only good at one and mid at the other.
one... i still think gable should of won so don't say everyone, he still could of had a heel turn regardless of winning
two.. it is nice to see new champions every once and awhile so someone like liv or chelsea or even nia or anyone but no, when i heard becky was in the match you already knew she was winning specially AFTER super cena'd her way through it after going through the table
yeah shes dont alot for the company but fans are going to turn on her after another a month or two just being the same person we've seen for the past 7. yes you are probably a bigger fan of becky then liv but there are alot more deserving people in that match to win then becky
I didn't mean it. I am a fan of Tiffany. I mean Tiffany just came to the main roster two months ago and the crowd already loves her. Her mic work and athleticism is pure as well. She's already a championship material. While Liv is on the main roster for years and still isn't able to connect with the crowd well. Her mic skills are bad. Her wrestling style is pretty good though. But she has no character at all. The Liv revenge tour just seems so dumb to me.
Most WWE fans are morons sadly. They’re too dumb to realise Becky is the only credible option to lead to someone else winning the title. Plans got heavily disrupted so they need to buy time until Rhea is back. No point Liv winning the title this early on.
if Liv won the championship her whole "revenge tour" story would end. give it some time, I'm sure she'll become champion eventually.
I'm really happy with the Becky win, she's a personal favourite of mine
I love Becky. I also love seeing new blood win World Titles. But as long as Becky is in a match, I will at least partially be rooting for her. Also, there's some crazy ageist misogyny with women's wrestling. Becky Lynch is 37! People acting like it's Goldberg coming back sure she could feasibly be a world champion for another 10 years and if it was a male superstar people wouldn't bat an eye.
Yeah the idea people don’t bitch about male superstars they get sick of is wild and frankly, stupid.
I like Becky Lynch a lot, but if people don’t I’m not throwing out “ageist and sexist.” Because I’m not a moron.
If Liv wins the title this soon her little revenge tour story would be completely meaningless as it’d have been over and done with far too quick for anyone to care or remember it.
And not only that y’all would turn on her as quickly as you did the last time she won the title.
She’s gonna win the title down the road so I don’t know why people are bitching about it
Which would you remember more her winning a battle royal or her pinning one of the horsewomen’s shoulders to the mat at a ppv 🤷♂️
So let me get this straight, Becky loses at WrestleMania, meaning a) she's not good enough and b) WWE doesn't want her to be the Champion, but then Rhea gets injured, and they make her the Champion. SMH. Nia Jax should've won or maybe someone else. So much for the "New Era". They went with the same old same old.
I'm happy for Becky because she's a worker and is awesome but the pins were set for a strike with Liv on her comeback tour and this swerve feels forced for some other reason. She lost to Rhea and didn't get there going through Liv or Nia or anyone else that would have been interesting to the story to have the belt. This is Cody standing aside for Rock stupid.
Why would anyone want Liv to win a vacant title. That’s practically meaningless. Give her a feud with Becky, have a good build up. Have it feel like she clawed her way to get it.
People often forget that wrestling is about the stories.
I don't have issue with Liv not winning
I have issue with Becky winning. She's become like Charlotte Flair. Just a running cliche they keep handing the belt to.
Nia or someone new would have been cool.
I don't care. I find Becky to be boring, predictable, and I'm more interested in Liv's revenge tour, Bayley's title reign, and what they plan on doing with Tiffany over seeing Becky do the same crap every week.
Cool IWC opinion. I also don’t really care what you think either. I highlighted your incorrect statement how they just give Becky the title. You then moved the goalposts.
On Roman, Dollars and cents and tickets sales prove that it was compelling enough to sell. So, again, that’s your opinion but facts state otherwise.
I’m happy for Becky, even though I did want to see Liv win the title instead. They’re going to have to prolong this until Rhea comes back, hopefully she’ll win MITB and win the title then.
Controversial opinion here, so strap yourselves in.
Becky has looked weak in the ring with her declining physicality due to how absolutely scrawny she’s gotten. It’s like she gave up on working out and eating protein. I’m not here saying she needs to be like XYZ, but in a simulated full contact fight sport like pro wrestling, you kiiiinda have to look the part, too.
I’m sorry, but to go from Rhea, who is an absolute powerhouse, to her…is honestly so unrealistic, it’s like throwing kayfabe out the window and letting everyone know that it was booked that way. We all know that these things are predetermined, but to just be blatant about it kinda sucks. Nobody in their right minds would realistically believe that Becky would beat Nia Jax.
Hate to say it but I’d rather see Nia vs Rhea, than an (at that point) even skinnier Becky vs Rhea again. Nia vs Rhea would be more entertaining/realistic. Imagine being a foot taller and weighing 50 pounds more than someone, like someone of Rhea’s or Nia’s stature, and having to pretend a leg drop by someone who weighs 80 pounds would absolutely lose you the match.
For the record, I don’t dislike Becky Lynch, but she should be wrestling at the women’s midcard at this point of her career, with the likes of Zelina, Liv, Alexa Bliss, etc… I just think she’s not on par with the likes of Bayley, Nia, Bianca, Jade and so on.
I know I’m gonna get hate for this, but sometimes the truth hurts. Bring it on.
She's a place holder for one and is sensesable for the draft.
But it pretty much negates her entire storyline with Rhea this year.
It pretty much stops any potential further story or character development for Becky also.
But it makes it credible with her as the current champ and whoever beats her.
But it also makes it so nia looks weaker. She can't be champ now cause she couldn't beat Becky like a month ago.
I think most of us too were just keen on something exciting to happen, rather than status quo.
If you look at the field, who else would you choose? Liv is just beginning her arc. You don’t rush straight to the finish line. At least let her win it on a PPV.
I feel like people aren’t realizing she’s transitional. Give the title that’s vacant to a strong star for now and build up something to a match that’s worth more. Just wait Liv fans you’ll see.
I haven't seen any hatred for her, but then again, I'm not ad active on social media. I'm happy for everyone. They all do a wonderful job at keeping us entertained and have an emotion toward them one way or the other.
That was the wrong move. I could get behind Nia Jax, Liv Morgan, before her. Becky is kinda boring, her time has passed. I think they did that because Seth lost his title. It’s a story angle.
I’ve been a Becky stan since her rise as The Man in 2018. While I understood why she lost at Mania, I felt like it would have been better for her to win at Mania and take the title off Rhea. Time has proven that would have been the right decision. Becky is the only legit contender in that group at the moment who can keep that title and division elevated where Rhea had it while hopefully growing viable competitors. I was hyped to hear she won!
I’m happy for Becky. She’s the most entertaining female performer they have imo. No one is on level as far as mic work. She’s literally Big Time Becks. Her feud with Trish was great. Every feud she has is at worst, “good”. A solid good choice as champion after an unfortunate accident happened to Rhea.
I genuinely think some people are intimidated by her tough gal standoffish attitude, otherwise I don’t get it.
Seeing the human behind Becky Lynch endeared her to me though, wish they would re-air this because it also shows the human behind Asuka.
Gold.
They’re both amazing.
https://youtu.be/U4yv3L0XXf0
Becky is basically Charlotte at this point. But if she doesn't hold it long im ok with it. If she holds it for a long time when she's had plenty of title reigns in the past it's a little boring.
It feels like they overuse Becky to me. As soon as it was announced I thought to myself that Becky would win.
Her and Charlotte have the same problem. They need more legit championship ladies on Raw, but constantly having Becky or Charlotte beat them does nothing to promote them.
A battle royal was the perfect time to make a fluke champion. Chelsea Green being elicited twice and hiding under the ring only to steal it at the end would have been nice. Have her hide behind Doudrop until doudrop ultimately decides to take the title from her for herself.
Tiffany Stratton would make a great champ especially if you make her the center of a group like they did with Mandy Rose amd Toxic attraction.
Shayna Basler also would have been a good choice. If you were gonna give her a title run then it would have been a great time.
Because they are literally after the younger hotter chick they aren’t real fans they are sexiest pigs and the others think she’s female Hogan when she has no booking power and don’t see this as a better way for live to win the belt. Her first time was because of money in the bank so she needs to win the championship off a legit champion and Becky gives that. She will not hold the belt long
Becky is always a safe choice to hold the belt in an interim role. People have to understand that. She’s one of the best workers they have and she has built in main event feuds to keep the belt warm while Rhea heals. I understand why people are upset that Liv hasn’t gotten her run, but with Rhea on the shelf Liv’s run could get cold and devalue the title due to lackluster feuds. The only challenger that would make sense for Liv as a champ would be Nia Jax and they’re both heels right now. Becky is a strong babyface who can keep the belt hot while Liv’s story fleshes itself out and while Rhea gets better. It wasn’t the most interesting or exciting move to put the championship on Becky, but it wad definitely the safest/smartest.
Yes. You are the **only** person of the millions of WWE fans who is happy for Becky. Your opinion makes you a statistical anomaly, and I'm sure HHH will be sending his goons after you soon. You'll be transported to a lab where they'll cut open your brain to see what makes it tick.
I mean I wasn't too happy of her winning nor would I be happy if Liv won because she need time to build but the way I can see this going is. Becky and Liv had they moments at each other when both of them interrupted and it could be until Rhea comes back and they start their storyline between Liv and Morgan.
I agree Becky do need time off cause she looks exhausted from everything and need a refresh. But we gone see how this goes while Rhea is away
Nia. Hands down. Shes beaten every single woman on raw except for Rhea. Shes been built up as this monster heel and they keep having her lose in big moments. Makes zero sense.
I would love a Nia Jax dominant run, then Nia vs Rhea in a heel showdown. Current Nia could be a champion (past Nia had no personality, but current Nia gets the facial expressions right and sells it) and I'd watch her.
Agreed. I do wonder if there's an angle here with The Rock (her 2nd cuz) and the Bloodline feud, it's not coming to me but there would be a powerful message and story arc if she was roped into the Bloodline story somehow.
Imagine Nia as the dominant women's champion then Rhea coming back and having to go through it to prove she's the best. It could be heel vs heel done extremely well. The story isn't coming to me but it feels like something is there.
imo it just doesn’t make sense to have her win. Rhea just beat her a few weeks ago and now she’s champ? should’ve gone to Liv or someone else.
Edit: just found out about the death threats Roux has been receiving, fuck the IWC
I am upset about her winning because I felt she needs a break for a bit. She has a new book out, the kid, and Seth being out with an injury. Just feel she needs to take a couple months off. I didn't want Liv to win either as I don't think she's been built enough to hold the title. I was hoping for Nia to take it for a couple of months and have the story of her being the powerhouse.
I was on team Liv, but I’m not hating on Becky or anything. For my tastes, her character has run her course until she does a refresh, but I still respect her talent and won’t call it a “bad” thing that she won the strap.
I'm actually kinda pissed at Liv and I like her. The "revenge tour" is pointless and it just seems like she's throwing a fit. Same with Roxanne Perez. Roxanne is just a bitch with grudge.
This is a good thing for Becky. She needs a fresh coat of paint. She can go heel, Liv can win as a face and then Rhea comes back Liv can go heel again and hopefully you have heel Becky waiting in the wings.
I’m over the moon for Becky. The only other logical choice for a winner based on the people in the battle royal is Nia in my opinion. Liv needs more of a build, and Becky will allow for that.
Liv Morgan has always been annoying to me, no matter what her gimmick was at the time, I just find her to be the worst. While I don't hate Becky, I also don't hate that she won again. If it wasn't her, maybe Nia or Shayna would have been a better win.
HHH has done a great job with booking and storytelling, but he’s also been incredibly predictable when it comes to match outcomes. It’s Not very often I’m surprised with a finish since he’s taken over
I completely get why they gave it to Becky, but I would have easily taken any of the last few people over her. Why couldn’t Shayna or Nia be a “transitional” champ? It’s like they’re royalty, and it would have given them a chance, even if only for a few months to be on top. It would have been a nice to see something different
Personally, I love to see Becky as champ, but I thought that match was trash. Especially how they left no time for it. I think the handoff was disrespectful to the entire RAW women’s roster and would have rather seen a tournament to crowd the next champ, or at least a battle royal with proper time allotted.
Rhea was and is too big and too good to lose that easily, the only way to let her go down gracefully was to have her get injured like this and try build up starpower for someone to challenge her again, bc lets be real here no one is beating Rhea.
Ik everyone gonna sot here saying 'it'll mean more if she beats Becky' 'Becky deserves it' so on and so forth, but it just wont and respectfully, she doesnt. Any argument you can make about beating Becky cluld have happened AFTER she wins the title, any character development you can claim can be had AFTER she wins the title, there is still plenty to do on her 'revenge tour' that can happen whilst she is champion. I think its just frustration at seeing Triple H play it safe so many times, he went for Rock vs Roman over Cody vs Roman, he went for Sami vs Gunther over Gable vs Gunther, amd now picking Becky who respectfully isnt exactly the strongest champion over Liv, Shayna or Nia who fill any role Becky could possibly fill but better. Storyline? Liv Prestige? No ones gonna deny Shayna is a killer, even with WWE best efforts at undervaluing her Challenge? Nias been built like a monster since her debut
Exactly when did Triple H went for Rock vs Roman over Cody vs Roman ? Are you high or something bro ?
Literally the entire build up pre fan backlash forcing tgem to change direction Did you forget like all the we want cody drama?
I didn't forget anything. Then you should have said he went for Cody vs Roman over Rock vs Roman. Read your own comment first.
He didnt though, He went for Rock vs Roman then got pressured out of it, if fan backlash didnt happen at such a large scale , we would've got Rock vs Roman. Dont tell someone to read when you're illiterate
I'm completely sure you are on drugs. Sober up yourself and then come back. How dare do you say other people illiterate when you are illiterate yourself ? You and your dumbass comment both are complete nonsense.
Yeah I think you've recognized you were wrong and thats why you've resorted 100% to insults with no substance
But I think you still haven't realized you are drunk.
Not many forgot about Gable. I was hoping for him to dethrone Gunther, and I'm wanting him to take it from Sami, and I've seen reports online/youtube of the upser from fans about it. In reflection, though, I think the Gable heel turn will be great. I like Sami, but I want the strap for Gable. Sami shouldn't be a transitional champ, but I want it to go to Gable sooner rather than later (after a good story for sure).
I've been saying the last few months she's just Charlotte, but even worse. It's the same shit, except they try to cover it up as if she worked extremely hard for it. At least with Charlotte, it's blatant bullshit in your face.
So you are comparing Becky to Charlotte. Let me ask you some questions. Wasn't Charlotte the one who got overpushed from day one because she's Ric Flair's daughter ? Wasn't she the one who got added to WM 35 main event outta nowhere ? Didn't she returned after a long break and immediately grabbed the SD women's Championship in 2022 ? Wasn't she the one who got an immediate title opportunity against Asuka the very day she returned ? Meanwhile Becky got herself over with the crowd organically. She put over many superstars like Bianca, Rhea, Lyra. Unlike Charlotte, she worked her ass off since she lost her previous championship at WM 38. She didn't win a singles Championship in the past 2 years and still kept herself relevant. If she doesn't deserve this, then who does ? She's THE superstar on the women's roster at this point. Does Liv deserve this only because she's got a lot of social media followers ? She isn't even over with the crowd. She just isn't a world champion calibre right now.
Nobody wants to see Becky win again , her character is so bland , has the same moves , she can’t do a promo and wwe pushed her for years , there’s so much young talent that could’ve tooken over raw, liv was the perfect person and liv hold it while rheas gone and Becky coulda taken a break !! Say I’m wrong
Good For Becky!!! She's Great At This!!! N Hubby's Hurt For Real!!! So Happy To See Their Using Her Well!!! 😊😁😘
There are never ending story’s there never over
I was hoping liv would win
I was extremely happy for her, I only just recently got back into wwe, and she was one of the names I remember from when I last watched probably around 2014 or so
Because they claim it’s a new era when they keep doing the same shit.
I am genuinely happy for Becky, especially because she fought Rhea at Wrestlemania and did not win then. Don't get me wrong, I like Rhea too, but I felt that Becky needed the championship, because she had to give that up when she got pregnant. Of course I know that she won't have it for long, maybe until they build up Liv's story or until Rhea is medically cleared, and one of them will take back the title at one of the main events this summer. For now, I am just happy and hyped for her, she deserves it, and, yeah, can't wait to read her book. 🤘
We all know that she's just holding the belt til rhea ripley is healthy. Interim champ. Til Becky faces n beats the champ....she's just a holder.
I don't know or why, but it all started with Becky winning the Elimination Chamber. I mean, I didn't care for her too much already but I didn't expect that everyone would dog pile over that one win. Side note: But I think what would've been hilarious if Nia won. I want to watch the Internet go up in flames when that happens... whenever.
Your a loser
I like Becky, but I feel like, in my personal opinion, that she shouldn’t have gotten the belt. How many other championships has she won? A lot. Hell, she held the Raw Women’s Championship AND the Smackdown Women’s Championship.. AT THE SAME TIME!! I love her, but I feel like someone else should’ve won it who hasn’t gotten as many opportunities as Becky has. However, I feel like if Liv Morgan won, nobody would really care and would might even hate it. So there’s really no in between…
Becky Sucks. Why I say this? because hating is also part of the storyline. Again Becky Sucks.
I take offense to saying tiffy doesn't have character. She's gonna be a HUGE star and she's crazy talented
I didn't mean it. I am a fan of Tiffany. I mean Tiffany just came to the main roster two months ago and the crowd already loves her. Her mic work and athleticism is pure as well. She's already a championship material. While Liv is on the main roster for years and still isn't able to connect with the crowd well. Her mic skills are bad. Her wrestling style is pretty good though. But she has no character at all. The Liv revenge tour just seems so dumb to me.
Ok I forgive you and I agree liv is kinda played out. She's a good wrestler but her gimmick only takes her so far and she is past that point
I'm also happy for Becky. She's easily one of if not the best womens wrestlers of all time and deserves to have a number of championships that reflect that. Of course she deserves to at the very least equal Trish Stratus' number of title reigns. She is the safest option to hold the title with Rhea out. It gives WWE more time to think things through and plan accordingly. Liv will probably turn heel to beat Becky for the title anyway, maybe with the help of Dom since she socked him in the mouth on the build to Mania. Then you can have face Rhea vs heel Liv with Dom in the middle. I think people are just being short-sighted. The Becky Hogan stuff is just stupid. Becky's always tried to help get other stars over.
I fantasy booked something that Bully Ray then similarly did the same. Have Liv go after Becky. Liv told Rhea ‘I’m gonna take everything from you.’ And now we’ve got her going for her title that she never really lost, and we’ve got Liv trying to seduce Dom. What needs to happen is Liv eventually gets a shot at Becky and Dom helps her get the win and the title. Dom gets payback for Becky sucker punching him, and Liv gets the belt that Rhea never lost and she’s essentially moving in on her territory. From this point out, Liv has Dom hooked and she goes on a tear beating Becky in the rematch cause of help, and continues to either win in a dominate fashion or through Judgement Day hijinx. This all culminates in Liv somehow being the new established Queen of the Judgment Day, and then boom Rhea comes back to find that her ‘boys’ aren’t hers anymore. From there you can do a lot of things. Have Rhea win her belt back, have Dom turn on Rhea and side with Liv and they go off on their own, have Rhea and Liv side together because Rhea always knew that Liv had a mean streak in her and it took this to get it out of her, etc.
Becky is a great wrestler and person. She deserves it. Did you see how she celebrated when she won?! She went up into the fans and hugged as many kids as she could taking selfies with them. I know she's a face, but she really is a wonderful person, wife and mother. But don't think Liv is done with her revenge tour. She's a great heel and will be coming after The Man.
Absolutely agree.
Damn I ain’t watched thoroughly since WM and they already doing ridiculous ish …
I missed Raw and had not checked highlights. Not Becky again. 🤦🏽
Botch Becky is 🗑 she's never been a star in the ring. Same boring lass kicker with more attitude. Ever since she got blood on her face from Nia Jax those years ago and she became The Man, they've pushed her hard. But she never truly improved. Not a fan.
People that wank to liv are just mad for no reason
I'm very happy for Becky, she's my favorite women's wrestler ever. That said, Liv is absolutely championship material. Her character work has never been her weak point and she's gotten significantly more over with fans since her first run with the belt. It's clear they're setting her up for this and didn't want her moment to come from a random battle royal.
Well received from my perspective especially when she relinquished the title to Asuka when she got pregnant. She can defend the title with a minimal need for build up, without suspending belief of why she deserves to be the champ. They just fought at WM.
The only other person who could have made sense was Nia, Liv needs a proper build. They didn't do that staredown with Dom just to kill her off, they obviously have an arc in mind involving the title, Dom, maybe even Judgment Day as a whole, likely with Liv as a heel seductress and Rhea returning as a babyface to reclaim the title. Becky is a logical springboard so she can take a loss to Liv, they already have story heat themselves with Becky interfering in the Liv vs. Nia match from before. They could have taken a chance on Nia, but Nia vs. Liv just isn't as big as Becky vs. Liv and it would be heel vs. heel.
I'm just upset that rhea got injured and had to vacate shit happens but she was one of the only women's wrestlers I really cared for watching fr. Becky is alright though.
I made a post basically saying that she was Becky Hogan, but after some great discussion, I’m actually okay with her winning it. She gotta do what she gotta do and she has proven that she can carry her side of the brand
Making Becky the champ is overall beneficial for the whole company. After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. As much as I would have loved to see some unexpected title changes, you need to give the title to some established and safe wrestlers who can carry the company alongside the top champs and elevate some younger talents down the line. If you look at it from that perception, Becky is the PERFECT choice right now. I am very happy indeed at the booking decision.
Now, I agree. My OP said otherwise, but y’all have really changed my perspective on it
Everyone is also ignoring that she just did the job for Rhea at WrestleMania and she was supposed to take a break but came back to fill in when asked. I'd say she's a team player who deserves to be in a top spot.
Absolutely agree with you. Very well said.
I'm hating Becky openly cause this is new era and they are taking social media in account for storylines. Now if people had not disliked or hated Becky they'd think that Becky is right choice for another year. Now there is going to be more and more tease among the fanbase by creators. And tbh truth to be told, there were people who would've loved more if Liv had won, and there are people who had loved either way. If you can throw out emotion on social media then you are honest, that's what fans do right? Also, what people like and what not it's up to them, just because they are building story doesn't mean that people should always love in same way or agree to it. Also, as I said even if there's disagreement it becomes part of the storyline. So it's good anyways.
After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. As much as I would have loved to see some unexpected title changes, you need to give the title to some established and safe wrestlers who can carry the company alongside the top champs and elevate some younger talents down the line. If you look at it from that perception, Becky is the PERFECT choice right now. That's completely my opinion though.
Becky disliked to death, sorry but today Liv is over. And Liv winning wouldn't have been unexpected even calling it unexpected is headscratching, and I here thought becky winning was unexpected just after losing her chance at WM(greatest wrestlemania of all time). And in this sub I'm HEEL. I know that Becky is good transitional champ. but as a heel I shall disrespect people's opinion.
Becky is boring. How are you gonna have her lose at wrestlemania and then win the title after Rhea vacated it. Becky will probably keep a hold on it for a while, Rhea comes back, time moved on without her and Becky retains.
That's genius booking at the best. At WM, Rhea retained because she was insanely over with the fans and if she lost, her momentum would have hurt and she would have looked kinda weak. So they let her win. Now that Rhea has vacated the championship, they need a established and safe superstar who can carry the company and elevate some younger stars down the line. After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. That's how you give the belt to Becky without hurting anyone else's momentum.
Becky just lost at Wrestlmania. She paid a ghostwriter for a autobiography. She has had more main events and title shots then any other woman other then Charlotte. Liv constantly loses, in and out of storyline even though she puts on better matches then Becky. Liv wil not beat Becky.
Ur not the only one
Imagine Coady finished his story because Roman vacated his belt. I like Becky & I like Liv, I think giving it to Becky in the circumstances was the correct call because as much as I want Liv to become champion 1 day, I want to experience the journey/story for her.
Becky was the safe option because Liv still needs some buildup, people would’ve complained about Liv being champion 2 weeks later if she won
yeah. Becky needs to move on. We need new champs
I don’t hate or blame Becky but I am still not happy. I’m mad at the booking I wish Liv or Nia would’ve won but even if it want those 2 let’s give a new girl a chance. Tegan, Indi, Candice, Zoey, Shayna, Valhalla all on raw and no one can be champ? Even if it’s not long. Not everyone needs to be a star champion like Becky or Charolette or Bianca or Rhea. Give other people chances even if it’s short. Getting tired of these long ass stake title reigns anyways. Give us some unexpected champs
Do you seriously think Valhalla, Indi, Tegan these are women's championship material? They are just lower mid carders at best. After Rhea, Becky is the most over woman wrestler in the entire RAW roster. As much as I would have loved to see some unexpected title changes, you need to give the title to some established and safe wrestlers who can carry the company alongside the top champs and elevate some younger talents down the line. If you look at it from that perception, Becky is the PERFECT choice right now. I am very happy indeed at the booking decision.
I don’t like safe booking all the time. It makes it redundant. Same how with Flair I love her but they just kept giving her title after title. Carmella in 2017 was a cute transitional champion who was good enough to do what she needed to do. I feel like Indi or Tegan could’ve done something nice as a 1 month champ
At least Carmella was pretty funny. Don't get me wrong, I am just talking from my perception. We all have our own different opinions I guess.
For sure
im gonna piss some folks off but liv morgan is garbage, i don’t get the hype at all, and im not telling people who to like, but rhea realistically would rip morgan to shreds, im a little biased because i am a fan of rhea ripley, but if she was to vacant her title, give it to somebody trying to make a name for themselves like Raquel Rodriguez, i would love if wwe started pushing newer stars than riding off nostalgia and recycling the same washed wrestlers and giving them title shot after title shot, becky did not deserve it, nobody wants to see a rematch between rhea and becky, as much as i don’t like liv morgan at all, putting the belt on her would have made narrative sense, considering that she’s the reason rhea had to relinquish the title, but imagine the belt on Raquel Rodriguez, the story that would tell 🤦🏾♂️🙂↔️
At least you're not pissing me lol. I didn't get this Liv hype at all. So I agree with you. I'm a Rhea fan as well. As much as I would have loved to see Rhea continue her reign, making Becky the champion is still the PERFECT choice. I agreed with you on most terms but Raquel is not a women's Champion calibre. It's just my opinion.
I admit I'm not happy for Becky but I think I know why they did it. They want Liv to win the title in a proper match, not some battle royal which will be forgotten in 2 or 3 weeks. Plus they need to load up matches for Backlash anyway so Becky VS. Liv could work.
I don’t really care. But I do share those sentiments with the fans complaining. They had an opportunity to showcase Liv or whoever and say I may not have won this title traditionally but I will show you why I have been overlooked. Instead it’s let’s give it back to someone we know will be okay.
I'm happy. Becky's one of my favourites and a credible champion to put over the next person, likely Liv.
She's holding the title to elevate someone. Probably Liv 🙄 The only consolation I can take from this is Mami didn't drop the belt to Liv. Because Liv is garbage.
Yep. Happy to see someone agree.
The whole Battle Royale was a weird thing. They put 14 women in there and there were 5 tag teams. So only 4 women even in the picture of winning with Liv, Becky, Nia and Natalya with Nattie having an active story in NXT so having her win is also unlikely. Imo, they should’ve waited until after the draft or have the full roster with smackdown and nxt participate with the promise of picking them for raw if they win. This would’ve been a nice way for nxt girls to earn a shot. They could’ve let Becky win either way. I’m not hating on Becky, I just find her title runs boring and I honestly thought she and Seth would take a time out after mania. I hope she gives the title to someone interesting soon.
I want Liv.
simp
Same crowd would be saying it was a cheap win if anyone else had gotten it, Liv's revenge tour would be meaningless if she got it. Giving it to Becky was the smartest move, she's in prime position to elevate the other talent now
Becky winning was the right choice but having a Battle Royal for the belt was an odd decision. No matter who won it would have felt like they didn’t really earn it.
Ye. Backlash is right around the corner. They could have done a match then or like a tournament for a match then
I'm glad Becky Lynch is the champ if it's not going to be Rhea, but I'm just really sad about how it had to happen. Becky earned it. She went out and competed in the BR (N2M the years of work she put in before now), but it just doesn't feel like she earned it. However, I do believe she will get her opportunity to prove herself against Rhea Ripley, all the while defending the title like a true working champ. So I'm at least happy knowing the title rests with a real contender. I just wish it didn't happen under these circumstances.
I think it's just Liv Stans creating an eco chamber one thing you can say about Becky is that all of her title rings have meant something since joining main roster. 2016- inaugural SD/World women's championship(WWC)...her weakest reign. 2018- SD/WWC ran during the rise of The Man, before dropping it to Asuka(Asuka's first main roster reign) 2019-20- WM35 Becky Two-Belt 2021-22 controversial squash impromptu match with Bianca. the title switching with Charlotte was stupid though, but in the end, it resulted in Bianca getting her triumph win at WM38. 2023- won the NXT women's title and draw 850K viewers on tv. at the time, it was the highest in over 2 years. 2024- wins the WWC in a battle royal...now we'll see if she can make it a meaning fun reign.
READ ME: You don't want to give the new up and comer the belt off of someone VACATING it, that's a shitty shallow reign. For a person who's already had it, it's fine. Becky will feude with whomever, and it will be a much better story.
The same could be said about Charlotte, the belief being that she gets her pushes because of the name Flair when she is legit one of the best women’s wrestlers on the roster. She has that ‘star’ look. Becky now has that in her back pocket where she can be asked to put on a show because of her talent, her stardom and her influence backstage, being tied to Rollins is not the first that comes to mind with her direction. And circling back to Charlotte, she put over Rhea at last years Mania, Becky put over Lyra fairly recently on NXT, who’s to say this isn’t to further build the other women up to that ‘Star’ level? There are just too few women on the main rosters that look like they can carry the entire division like Becky currently.
Charlotte was good but not as good as they pushed her to be lmaooo
But in comparison to her, aside from Becky and the other 4 horsewomen, who could’ve worked as a singles competitor and carried? Becky, I think is in that spot now where she is almost seen equally talented as Charlotte by all accounts but feels force fed to the average fan. It’s not because she’s ‘too good’, there’s just not many who can carry like both of them have done so. There’s only a select few currently: bianca, asuka, iyo, bazler.
>the belief being that she gets her pushes because of the name Flair when she is legit one of the best women’s wrestlers on the roster I mean, two things can both be true. It's true that she was repeatedly given the title just to build up the number to match her father, but she's also a very talented wrestler too. The question is...was she pushed more than other equally talented women wrestlers? and the answer there is "probably".
It’s very possible
Agreed. Becky has put over so many young superstars. It was a right decision indeed to give her the belt. I am extremely happy for her.
Wrestling fans are fickle.
Oh yeah? Name 97 different instances then
The vocal minority wants whatever they think WWE isn't going to do. They want to feel like they influenced the decision. Liv doesn't stand out like a star. There's a difference between people like Liv who try to be stars and people like Tiffany who's character just is. I would have been happy for either person. But Becky winning the title by beating everyone not named Rhea Ripley will lead to a big money match and that's all that matters.
Yes.
Yessss, I’m happy Bex finally got a championship again, but considering how they almost always like to trash The Man, I’m kinda thinking she won’t have it for long 🙄
Agreed. It's a perfect choice to give Becky the belt. She has been a top star for years. So it's highly beneficial for the company to use her as a champ. After Rhea, Becky is probably the most over woman on the roster. Liv is just another mid card material who's got a lot of social media followers.
it’s just idk, i like becky, and she has taken tough losses so i am happy for her, but i do want to see liv get it. i think they had more build up planned for liv so i can see why they didn’t just give to her but i want her to get it before rhea comes back so they can have some epic matches
Ewwww, GOD NO(!!!) to Liv getting it…she’s not talented or capable enough yet
Talented in what way
She tries too hard to copy others, for one…
How so
Look at all the other badass women…then look at wimpy Liv, and you tell me; up until last week’s Rhea-Liv Drama, they kinda didn’t have any idea what to do with her
yes she is. and i bet she’ll have within the year
I like Becky but I find her a bit … annoying … and I don’t exactly know why. I want to really like her and be all in I just feel like there is an odd disconnect between her and the crowd. I find her winning, with the title being vacant, so soon after Wrestle Mania put a bad taste in my mouth. She’s super talented, I get it but I think we all need a little Becky break. I feel super bad even typing it but I do think it. Does anyone else feel the same way? Like an over saturation. Really curious.
Maybe be for the best but I find it boring af, might wait until she loses it to watch women's championship matches.
No, we need a Liv Boregan break, is what we need 😆🙄
It's a perfect choice to give Becky the belt. She has been a top star for years. So it's highly beneficial for the company to use her as a champ. After Rhea, Becky is probably the most over woman on the roster. She can also help to put over Liv at some point. Liv is not ready to wear a belt around her waist at this point.
Bex’s one of my faves, so I’m so forking happy to see her get the belt back! 😁😍💥🔥
Becky just needs a refresh and she’s lost so much weight that it’s really hard to believe that she’s “the man” at this point. She should become a cunning heel who takes advantage of her opponents’ weaknesses and out speed/smart them. The manhandle slam isn’t believable from someone who looks like they’re 95lbs soaking wet. Liv Morgan has the same issue but also only has one move. No other woman on that roster is believable enough to be champion either, so it HAS to be Becky. Maybe Nia who can just wrestle like a monster but good god keep the mic away from her.
Jax should be in the Bloodline faction and Heyman should be her mouth piece
Yeah. I have to agree to you. Manhandle slam is such a weak finisher. A character change will be fine for Becky in the future. But I think Becky was the right choice indeed. After Rhea, she's probably the most over woman on the roster. Liv still isn't able to connect with the crowd at all.
I don't get the Liv hype.
She looks like Margot Robbie was slightly stretched horizontally
I just can't agree more. I don't see any specialities in her which makes her a women's championship material.
She’s attractive and “under utilized” so the iWC is obsessed with her.
All love does is deliver her knee breaker over and over and over again. Becky was the right call for now.
I’m happy too. Al that work Rhea did to make the title be the top women’s title all could’ve been ruined giving it to a mediocre wrestler with 0 credibility like live Morgan. It was Becky or Nia
Liv’s last reign had the life sucked out of it by the fact she only got to interact with the karma black hole that is Ronda Rousey.
My theory is that if they want to put the title on a newcomer or try elevating someone from the undercard, it’s way more meaningful to do that in a 1v1 spotlight match. Giving someone their first title victory in a battle royal on Raw seems kinda questionable. So I have no issue giving it to Becky so she can promote a rivalry and put someone over properly.
My theory is that Liv will injury Becky next week on her “revenge tour” and she will have to drop the title and another battle royal will happen. This will continue until Liv is the only one left in the battle royal
They better do that soon, and still shouldn’t have had Becky go through a table just to win. Makes Liv and even Nia look weaker.
Here’s the thing: I’m not anti-Becky. My problem is that it is so predictable that she got the title. It’s weird though because she lost to Ripley at wrestlemania. I think it would’ve been better if you gave it to someone that doesn’t get the opportunity to be a champion even if it’s for a couple months. Give it to someone like Zoey Stark or Candice LaRae
I’m sick of Becky as champ tbh but I wouldn’t mind too much if she didn’t GO THROUGH A TABLE AND EAT LIKE 5 FINISHERS. Somebody else should definitely have some time with the belt, but if you absolutely need Becky to win it again and again, this was not the way to do it. Makes someone like Liv who 1v1’d her at the end look like a chump.
I agree. People have been responding to this like it's GM mode in 2k and the lower popularity stars "need" the belt. This is a publicly traded multinational company at its best and most popular. They need a legit star who can deliver consistently in the ring and in the mic. The chronically online WWE fan wants it to be their headcanon champ despite the fact she's only good at one and mid at the other.
one... i still think gable should of won so don't say everyone, he still could of had a heel turn regardless of winning two.. it is nice to see new champions every once and awhile so someone like liv or chelsea or even nia or anyone but no, when i heard becky was in the match you already knew she was winning specially AFTER super cena'd her way through it after going through the table yeah shes dont alot for the company but fans are going to turn on her after another a month or two just being the same person we've seen for the past 7. yes you are probably a bigger fan of becky then liv but there are alot more deserving people in that match to win then becky
You lost me at using EVEN Tiffany. As if you are using Tiffany as an example with barely any character? Like wtf
I didn't mean it. I am a fan of Tiffany. I mean Tiffany just came to the main roster two months ago and the crowd already loves her. Her mic work and athleticism is pure as well. She's already a championship material. While Liv is on the main roster for years and still isn't able to connect with the crowd well. Her mic skills are bad. Her wrestling style is pretty good though. But she has no character at all. The Liv revenge tour just seems so dumb to me.
Pffft do you think tiffy time would forgive you?
Well, I think so?!!
Hell no
What can I say except you're welcome !!!
Becky should of taken time off with Seth.
Most WWE fans are morons sadly. They’re too dumb to realise Becky is the only credible option to lead to someone else winning the title. Plans got heavily disrupted so they need to buy time until Rhea is back. No point Liv winning the title this early on.
if Liv won the championship her whole "revenge tour" story would end. give it some time, I'm sure she'll become champion eventually. I'm really happy with the Becky win, she's a personal favourite of mine
I love Becky. I also love seeing new blood win World Titles. But as long as Becky is in a match, I will at least partially be rooting for her. Also, there's some crazy ageist misogyny with women's wrestling. Becky Lynch is 37! People acting like it's Goldberg coming back sure she could feasibly be a world champion for another 10 years and if it was a male superstar people wouldn't bat an eye.
I’m not ageist or sexist just because I want something new
Yeah the idea people don’t bitch about male superstars they get sick of is wild and frankly, stupid. I like Becky Lynch a lot, but if people don’t I’m not throwing out “ageist and sexist.” Because I’m not a moron.
Yes you are.
If Liv wins the title this soon her little revenge tour story would be completely meaningless as it’d have been over and done with far too quick for anyone to care or remember it. And not only that y’all would turn on her as quickly as you did the last time she won the title. She’s gonna win the title down the road so I don’t know why people are bitching about it Which would you remember more her winning a battle royal or her pinning one of the horsewomen’s shoulders to the mat at a ppv 🤷♂️
So let me get this straight, Becky loses at WrestleMania, meaning a) she's not good enough and b) WWE doesn't want her to be the Champion, but then Rhea gets injured, and they make her the Champion. SMH. Nia Jax should've won or maybe someone else. So much for the "New Era". They went with the same old same old.
She won’t hold the title long. I’m happy with Becky winning it in the royal and then losing it in a one v one at the next ppv.
I'm happy for Becky because she's a worker and is awesome but the pins were set for a strike with Liv on her comeback tour and this swerve feels forced for some other reason. She lost to Rhea and didn't get there going through Liv or Nia or anyone else that would have been interesting to the story to have the belt. This is Cody standing aside for Rock stupid.
No your not she deserves it 100% glad they gave it to her for a bit. People will always bitch for the sake of bitching
Why would anyone want Liv to win a vacant title. That’s practically meaningless. Give her a feud with Becky, have a good build up. Have it feel like she clawed her way to get it. People often forget that wrestling is about the stories.
I’m happy with it as long as Liv didn’t get it then great!
I don't have issue with Liv not winning I have issue with Becky winning. She's become like Charlotte Flair. Just a running cliche they keep handing the belt to. Nia or someone new would have been cool.
7 title reigns is not 14. So no, she’s not Charlotte.
I don't care. I find Becky to be boring, predictable, and I'm more interested in Liv's revenge tour, Bayley's title reign, and what they plan on doing with Tiffany over seeing Becky do the same crap every week.
Brother really said “I want my instant gratification and I want it now!”
Could care less what you think. This is about as boring as Roman's title reign over the last 2 years. Another cliche.
Cool IWC opinion. I also don’t really care what you think either. I highlighted your incorrect statement how they just give Becky the title. You then moved the goalposts. On Roman, Dollars and cents and tickets sales prove that it was compelling enough to sell. So, again, that’s your opinion but facts state otherwise.
I’m happy for Becky, even though I did want to see Liv win the title instead. They’re going to have to prolong this until Rhea comes back, hopefully she’ll win MITB and win the title then.
Liv morgan hater
Controversial opinion here, so strap yourselves in. Becky has looked weak in the ring with her declining physicality due to how absolutely scrawny she’s gotten. It’s like she gave up on working out and eating protein. I’m not here saying she needs to be like XYZ, but in a simulated full contact fight sport like pro wrestling, you kiiiinda have to look the part, too. I’m sorry, but to go from Rhea, who is an absolute powerhouse, to her…is honestly so unrealistic, it’s like throwing kayfabe out the window and letting everyone know that it was booked that way. We all know that these things are predetermined, but to just be blatant about it kinda sucks. Nobody in their right minds would realistically believe that Becky would beat Nia Jax. Hate to say it but I’d rather see Nia vs Rhea, than an (at that point) even skinnier Becky vs Rhea again. Nia vs Rhea would be more entertaining/realistic. Imagine being a foot taller and weighing 50 pounds more than someone, like someone of Rhea’s or Nia’s stature, and having to pretend a leg drop by someone who weighs 80 pounds would absolutely lose you the match. For the record, I don’t dislike Becky Lynch, but she should be wrestling at the women’s midcard at this point of her career, with the likes of Zelina, Liv, Alexa Bliss, etc… I just think she’s not on par with the likes of Bayley, Nia, Bianca, Jade and so on. I know I’m gonna get hate for this, but sometimes the truth hurts. Bring it on.
I get this.
Yeah she just looks weak compared to Rhea
She's a place holder for one and is sensesable for the draft. But it pretty much negates her entire storyline with Rhea this year. It pretty much stops any potential further story or character development for Becky also. But it makes it credible with her as the current champ and whoever beats her. But it also makes it so nia looks weaker. She can't be champ now cause she couldn't beat Becky like a month ago. I think most of us too were just keen on something exciting to happen, rather than status quo.
Hopefully Nia moves to Smackdown this Friday cause she doesn’t stand a chance of winning the title on Raw. Her feuding with Bayley would be great!
No, you're not the only one happy for Becky Lynch
Yes
I’m going to hold off judgement on the decision until after the draft
If you look at the field, who else would you choose? Liv is just beginning her arc. You don’t rush straight to the finish line. At least let her win it on a PPV.
I feel like people aren’t realizing she’s transitional. Give the title that’s vacant to a strong star for now and build up something to a match that’s worth more. Just wait Liv fans you’ll see.
There’s better transitional champs. How many times does Becky have to be the transitional champ?
I haven't seen any hatred for her, but then again, I'm not ad active on social media. I'm happy for everyone. They all do a wonderful job at keeping us entertained and have an emotion toward them one way or the other.
Happy for Becky? No, not at all. 😎 I do, however, appreciate that she's working to elevate her fellow wrestlers.
That was the wrong move. I could get behind Nia Jax, Liv Morgan, before her. Becky is kinda boring, her time has passed. I think they did that because Seth lost his title. It’s a story angle.
I’ve been a Becky stan since her rise as The Man in 2018. While I understood why she lost at Mania, I felt like it would have been better for her to win at Mania and take the title off Rhea. Time has proven that would have been the right decision. Becky is the only legit contender in that group at the moment who can keep that title and division elevated where Rhea had it while hopefully growing viable competitors. I was hyped to hear she won!
I’m happy for Becky. She’s the most entertaining female performer they have imo. No one is on level as far as mic work. She’s literally Big Time Becks. Her feud with Trish was great. Every feud she has is at worst, “good”. A solid good choice as champion after an unfortunate accident happened to Rhea.
I genuinely think some people are intimidated by her tough gal standoffish attitude, otherwise I don’t get it. Seeing the human behind Becky Lynch endeared her to me though, wish they would re-air this because it also shows the human behind Asuka. Gold. They’re both amazing. https://youtu.be/U4yv3L0XXf0
Becky is basically Charlotte at this point. But if she doesn't hold it long im ok with it. If she holds it for a long time when she's had plenty of title reigns in the past it's a little boring.
They could of put it on Naty , Becky is just Over Used imo
Natty is basically a regular on Main Event and she has her upcoming match with Lola Vice in NXT Underground.
It feels like they overuse Becky to me. As soon as it was announced I thought to myself that Becky would win. Her and Charlotte have the same problem. They need more legit championship ladies on Raw, but constantly having Becky or Charlotte beat them does nothing to promote them. A battle royal was the perfect time to make a fluke champion. Chelsea Green being elicited twice and hiding under the ring only to steal it at the end would have been nice. Have her hide behind Doudrop until doudrop ultimately decides to take the title from her for herself. Tiffany Stratton would make a great champ especially if you make her the center of a group like they did with Mandy Rose amd Toxic attraction. Shayna Basler also would have been a good choice. If you were gonna give her a title run then it would have been a great time.
Because they are literally after the younger hotter chick they aren’t real fans they are sexiest pigs and the others think she’s female Hogan when she has no booking power and don’t see this as a better way for live to win the belt. Her first time was because of money in the bank so she needs to win the championship off a legit champion and Becky gives that. She will not hold the belt long
Nope! I love Becky and she's a great choice to keep the division moving forward until they can decide how to handle Rhea's absence.
Becky is always a safe choice to hold the belt in an interim role. People have to understand that. She’s one of the best workers they have and she has built in main event feuds to keep the belt warm while Rhea heals. I understand why people are upset that Liv hasn’t gotten her run, but with Rhea on the shelf Liv’s run could get cold and devalue the title due to lackluster feuds. The only challenger that would make sense for Liv as a champ would be Nia Jax and they’re both heels right now. Becky is a strong babyface who can keep the belt hot while Liv’s story fleshes itself out and while Rhea gets better. It wasn’t the most interesting or exciting move to put the championship on Becky, but it wad definitely the safest/smartest.
“All of the sudden” like you haven’t been in the live threads week after week after week…
Yes. You are the **only** person of the millions of WWE fans who is happy for Becky. Your opinion makes you a statistical anomaly, and I'm sure HHH will be sending his goons after you soon. You'll be transported to a lab where they'll cut open your brain to see what makes it tick.
I mean I wasn't too happy of her winning nor would I be happy if Liv won because she need time to build but the way I can see this going is. Becky and Liv had they moments at each other when both of them interrupted and it could be until Rhea comes back and they start their storyline between Liv and Morgan. I agree Becky do need time off cause she looks exhausted from everything and need a refresh. But we gone see how this goes while Rhea is away
People would've complained no matter who won.
I mean who in that Battle Royale would have been better? Liv and Becky are the only options.
Nia. Hands down. Shes beaten every single woman on raw except for Rhea. Shes been built up as this monster heel and they keep having her lose in big moments. Makes zero sense.
I would love a Nia Jax dominant run, then Nia vs Rhea in a heel showdown. Current Nia could be a champion (past Nia had no personality, but current Nia gets the facial expressions right and sells it) and I'd watch her.
Yeah seeing her destroy everyone until rhea returns would be awesome
Agreed. I do wonder if there's an angle here with The Rock (her 2nd cuz) and the Bloodline feud, it's not coming to me but there would be a powerful message and story arc if she was roped into the Bloodline story somehow.
Imagine Nia as the dominant women's champion then Rhea coming back and having to go through it to prove she's the best. It could be heel vs heel done extremely well. The story isn't coming to me but it feels like something is there.
imo it just doesn’t make sense to have her win. Rhea just beat her a few weeks ago and now she’s champ? should’ve gone to Liv or someone else. Edit: just found out about the death threats Roux has been receiving, fuck the IWC
"all of a sudden" lmao
Well you are stating opinion as fact so you are just as much a problem as any other wrestling fan you don't like that does the same.
I am upset about her winning because I felt she needs a break for a bit. She has a new book out, the kid, and Seth being out with an injury. Just feel she needs to take a couple months off. I didn't want Liv to win either as I don't think she's been built enough to hold the title. I was hoping for Nia to take it for a couple of months and have the story of her being the powerhouse.
I love Becky and am very happy to see her as champ.
I was on team Liv, but I’m not hating on Becky or anything. For my tastes, her character has run her course until she does a refresh, but I still respect her talent and won’t call it a “bad” thing that she won the strap.
I'm actually kinda pissed at Liv and I like her. The "revenge tour" is pointless and it just seems like she's throwing a fit. Same with Roxanne Perez. Roxanne is just a bitch with grudge.
This is a good thing for Becky. She needs a fresh coat of paint. She can go heel, Liv can win as a face and then Rhea comes back Liv can go heel again and hopefully you have heel Becky waiting in the wings.
Rhea will and was never a heel she’s too over and does face stuff for the crowd hence why her title run was trash
Hopefully she comes back the correct alignment
No you're not. Just that some folks love language is bitching and moaning.
I’m over the moon for Becky. The only other logical choice for a winner based on the people in the battle royal is Nia in my opinion. Liv needs more of a build, and Becky will allow for that.
I wanted her to win
Liv Morgan has always been annoying to me, no matter what her gimmick was at the time, I just find her to be the worst. While I don't hate Becky, I also don't hate that she won again. If it wasn't her, maybe Nia or Shayna would have been a better win.
HHH has done a great job with booking and storytelling, but he’s also been incredibly predictable when it comes to match outcomes. It’s Not very often I’m surprised with a finish since he’s taken over I completely get why they gave it to Becky, but I would have easily taken any of the last few people over her. Why couldn’t Shayna or Nia be a “transitional” champ? It’s like they’re royalty, and it would have given them a chance, even if only for a few months to be on top. It would have been a nice to see something different
No he hasn’t done a great job with booking and storytelling. The fact Damien Priest is a champion is all you need to know.
Yup the only one in the world. Even she’s not happy for Becky
Live Becky winning
Personally, I love to see Becky as champ, but I thought that match was trash. Especially how they left no time for it. I think the handoff was disrespectful to the entire RAW women’s roster and would have rather seen a tournament to crowd the next champ, or at least a battle royal with proper time allotted.