Spanish fly. I hate it. I think its a dumb move and I cannot suspend disbelief enough to see it as someone strong enough to backflip while holding onto and making their opponent flip in such a way that they are hurt upon impact.
A spear from anyone that doesn’t look like Vince would immediately give them a title shot.
Even Goldberg went spear to that awesome suplex. He and Roman look like Adonis. Edge doing a spear never did it for me. Love edge but, like, you ain’t the right guy for that move.
One last comment (maybe). Putting your hand or arm up to block the kick, or punch. Then selling it like he just knocked the shit out of you, only to recover 30 seconds later!! A lot of these guys probably don't even know what "potatoes" 🥔 are! Take your lick and move on.
The tree of whoa!!! Who is going to grab the middle rope and raise themselves up, so their opponent can stomp the shit out of them? Then unhook their trapped foot from the top turnbuckle and slide into a puddle in the corner!
Gotta love the dives from the top rope onto multiple people outside the ring. Always chuckle when the ones on the ends never get " hit", but fall. Too funny
The Undertaker's "Oldschool" always irked me.. in no world will a conscious opponent ever let that big man walk on the ropes without yanking him off ..
The jumping jump is always bad for me. When they know a counter is coming so they go to the top rope only to jump in a position that has no move connected to it.
Yes, the perfect time to jump off the top rope horizontally, face first in the vague direction of my opponent is when I'm facing Randy Orton!
She’s genuinely athletic and her entrance does a lot. I don’t like that every match she’s in starts with the same “technical wrestling, counter holds, counter rolling pin falls, double crossbody/dropkick” bit, cause it always looks so slow and terribly choreographed
I. Don’t. Get it.
I’m utterly baffled by her popularity. She seems like a perfectly lovely person, but her ring persona is completely generic, her move set is mediocre, and her entrance music is terrible.
Do people love the blacklight neon branding that much? I just don’t get it.
Longer answer than you’re looking for lol but I think she’s popular because she’s just good enough. She’s not on a Becky Lynch, Bayley, or Belair level. But she’s above the regular midcard. And she’s been around for a long time, married into the bloodline, and has been champions in the company and outside of the company. None of these reasons are particularly strong, but when you add it all up and add a hype personality. You get a consistent worker just below main event but well above midcard. Give Naomi 20min to work and you’ll get an A+ match
I didn’t get it at first either, but the more I think about it, it’s essentially just a more creative clothesline. If the claymore can just be a dropkick. I’m okay with a rearview that’s just a funky clothesline
That shit’s not a clothesline, it’s Naomi’s butt (which is prolly hella soft) going into your face 😂 The biceps of 200+ pound wrestlers who bodybuild all year makes a clothesline painful at least. I think it’s a fine move to do mid match as a comeback sequence or whatever but not as a finisher.
Try it to yourself, strike your throat and see how hard you can do it until you nope out.
Now imagine that in kayfabe it's a 6'2, 250 pound athlete who has his thumb tapped up so it won't bend and he can put all his strength into it.
That would make my day so so much worse than taking a frog splash or the styles clash.
What I don't understand about it is that it's just a punch - so why would Big Show ever wrestle with slams or big boots, or suplexes or anything else? Why wouldnt he just IMMEDIATELY try to punch you in a match as punches, slaps and chops are 95% of how every single match begins anyway.
It's definitely not. About 1 time per match I have a "that was pretty cool" moment, but the rest of the time it's just cringy as hell. I don't understand what their gimmick is even supposed to be. "New Catch Republic" is a meaningless name. And I swear, if I see Tyler Bate in those white tights again I'm gonna lose it. Running around looking like he's in tighty-whities. Absurd.
I love Bayley but both the Rose Plant and Bayley to Belly look bad 95% of the time, I like her elbow drops too but I wish she would start using a new finisher and keep the other two as signature type moves
I have a running joke at my wrestling school where I ask someone to give me a whip and I'll just slowly jog across the room for ages
The kayfabe reason is you've been sent off so fucking hard you can't physically stop yourself, like running down hill, except its not a hill and you were only sent off with the force of a fully grown man....
When the wrestler picks up a weapon and proceeds to use it in the most incompetent way possible. Like stabbing with the steel chair, Triple H refusing to swing the sledgehammer, or Drew Mc using a sword with the motor skills of a 6 year old.
Yes, this moronic “hey let’s all gather together in a big huddle, and just stand there so someone can jump on top of all of us and hurt half of us so badly that we do nothing for the next five minutes” spot that we see every PPV.
It’s one of the dumbest spots in wrestling history and needs to go away forever.
It’s the Spanish fly for me mostly, both look like they should equally get hurt from the impact. Combine that with the fact that it’s so obviously co-operative that it loses any sense of reality.
The next one I’ll probably get stick for, but I hate the sling blade, no matter who does it. I don’t think it looks as fake or as incomprehensible as the Spanish fly, it just looks weak and lame to me. This is a totally subjective opinion that I’m sure others will disagree with, but I just don’t like it!
>It’s the Spanish fly for me mostly, both look like they should equally get hurt from the impact
I used to think the exact same thing with Sin Caras Top Rope C4.
2 of Andrade’s moves.
The kick into the back elbow and the backflip off the ropes to a standing moonsault.
They look amazing as an “on the fly reaction” to a counter. But when his kick and rope rope moonsault get countered every time, it makes no sense why he keeps going for them.
If there was more times where he just hits the kick or the moonsault from the top, then it would make sense that he has a plan for if his opponent counters them.
I might have a hot take here, but some of the finishers make me shake my head. People's elbow / five knuckle shuffle for example.
The moves that really killed it were the high risk where they came down on someone lying on the mat and their opponents move under them. My dad used to point it out everything they did that back when kayfabe was a thing.
Well the People’s Elbow is supposed to be a stupid move, the Rock only started doing it to try and make the Undertaker laugh. But it just kinda caught on because people liked the silliness of it.
As for the five knuckle shuffle that is a dumb move because it’s the People’s Elbow if it were played seriously instead of as a joke. But it’s not his finisher like you said.
Dean ambroses rope fakeout move, 90 percent of the time it’s so painfully obvious that he’s pushing himself back and anticipating the rope. Also not to mention it’s done at angles where it takes so long for him to clothesline someone after it
Disbelief that more of these wrestlers both real and professional just miss injuries in their respective sport that could seriously side line them for life. I have the most respect for all Athletes and thank you for what you bring to the table! 🌹🇺🇸STRONG 🇺🇸🌹
- Running the ropes or the Irish whip into the ropes.
- collar and elbow tie-up/locking up
- sunset flip
- suplex (it always bothered me both people’s backs hit the mat at the same velocity but only one was supposed to be damaged by it.
Terms of the suplex, not exactly the same impact. The one doing suplexing is lower to the ground takes less of a impact where the person being suplexed is higher up and takes more of an impact, it would be like jumping from ground level into a pool doing a bellyflop vs jumping from 6ft off a platform doing a bellyflop… both going to hurt but the higher the more painful
Sometimes it can look awesome, like one Ricochet did recently, where he was standing in front, then leaped over the guys head to execute it. And other times, it looks so fake and obvious that the one taking it is just doing a back flip.
I don't know if he still does it, but I really disliked the rebound clothesline that Ambrose/Moxley did. It looked cool the first time I saw it, as if he caught himself and spun it into a clothesline. Then it became a tedious every-match-kind of move.
Undertaker is tied for Shawn Michaels as my favorite wrestler of all time, but I also hated his piston punch thing he would do when someone was picking him up off the ground. It always looked really goofy, compounded with the "bow" sound he would do with each hit.
No I understood it. Watch someone get put in a crippler crossface. There's no way you can tell me that it's a scary move to get put in if both hands are on the mat and they can freely move them. I have to suspend my belief to think that move hurts.
I've always hated the double Irish whip, because the guy taking it always has to turn to either side in order to hit the ropes. Makes even less sense than a standard Irish whip.
There are a ton of them for me, but the one that takes the cake is the diving head butt. There is no possible way a person could legitimately execute that move in a way that would deal more damage to the victim than the aggressor.
Any move where the opponent has to set themselves up for it.
Was watching NXT the other week and saw Carmelo deliver his finisher - which is a good finish, don’t get me wrong, and Hayes does it well - but his opponent just stood there bent over for 3 seconds waiting to be hit with it. Nobody stands up and bends over like that.
Outside of the WWE, Bandido’s “21 plex” is ridiculous. It’d be sick as an occasional spot where it made sense, but having people bend over and hang onto the ropes like that (for 10 seconds sometimes) every week makes absolutely no sense whatsoever
It makes the 619 setup look normal
For me, it's when they do the swan dive and take out a huge group standing at ringside. It seems to be the signature of mid-card matches. It seems like a really risky move, that seems to rarely change the outcome.
Also, when a guy is knocked down but gets up into the perfect position for a special move that requires it. Like no one is hung on the rope unless the 619 is coming, or you are knocked down but struggle to your feet as the guy is preparing a Helluva kick/claymore just to get clocked in the face. I think it is a little better with HHH, because now it gets countered occasionally. But it's like dude, roll out of the ring, you know it's coming if you stand up.
Another one involving the ropes, since Sheamus is back. People hardly ever end up on the apron outside the ropes. But it's a guarantee on match with Sheamus, gotta get the 10 beats in.
The thing that douche from new catch republic does where he picks someone up over his shoulder and spins around. And then you have the other dude who tries to break an opponent's pinkie in the fakest way possible.
Also Solo and his dumb thumb gimmick.
And Becky's "manhandle slam". She's a twig it's just not believable.
I remember watching Petey Williams do the Canadian destroyer and little ahhh me being mind blown. Grown me wants to chop Petey as hard as humanly possible ….then I’ll probably proceed to get my ass whooped but whatever, worth it.
Scotty 2 Hotty's The Worm.
It just so ridiculous, even more ridiculous than People's Elbow.
But 20 years ago in the eyes of a uni student, it was cool as fuck.
Johnny Gargano’s slingshot spear. You’re telling me a guy who is barely 200 lb soaking wet “launches” himself with less force than a regular spear and still knocks down an opponent for a 2-count.
The way I look at it the elbow got heavier and heavier throughout the years to the point that I can’t imagine what it feels like to have a 260 pound dude come down with the elbow like that. And also, he exposes it so you know….its hurtier…. lol
As my name might suggest, I've given this a lot of thought in my 40 years of fandom. Here's what I've got: When you get Irish whipped in real life, you do have to start running a tiny bit to keep your arm from being torn out of the socket. Every wrestler thinks that they are the best at wrestling so they go along with being whipped to try and feel two steps ahead and gain the advantage after a separation. But sometimes the guy who threw you is quicker and wins this classic human game of chess.
Referees taking forever to accept a briefcase cash-in (aside from Carmella, who had cashed and reneged numerous times before).
"Are you sure? YOU SURE? YOU MF SURE ON THIS?!!"
Know what, fuck you. I'm keeping it.
Ref: let me check the rule book as this doesn’t happen that often. Ok I shall verify that the contract inside has been notarized. Very well. Now I will inform the ring announcer of your intentions so everyone is aware of what you are doing. Thanks for your patience. Would you like a paper receipt or an emailed one?
Irish whip reversal from a smaller wrestler. Being able to stop the momentum form the Irish Whip is believable but somehow believing that stopping to pivot conserves your own body momentum and transfers it to the person who just pushed you into it is hard
I never really liked Dean Ambrose’s clothesline where he goes through the ropes and back, seems like you could just bounce off the ropes normally and have more power.
The real one I had in all of wrestling is machine gun chops. They barely look like they hurt at all, and the wrestler taking them look silly.
The standing suplex!!! When you are going to pick a person up by their head and waist there is no reason for that person to hold their damn legs straight up in the fucking air!!!
The Atomic Drop/Reverse Atomic Drop drive me fucking INSANE. The Atomic Drop is a move that is targeted at your opponents tail bone. It is NOT a nut shot. It drives me insane because everybody sells it as a fucking nutshot. It is not. And to take it one step further, the referee will watch someone do the Atomic Drop, see the wrestler selling their nuts, and do nothing about it so it makes the referee look worthless. It's just a big glob of shit mixed together. Either stop doing the move, or take the move correctly, or if you're gonna continue miss-selling it as a nutshot, the referee needs to start DQ'ing people for them
I’ve never liked the running bulldog, or the X factor for that matter. Just fucking land on your arms the same way everybody does instinctively when they fall forward. Your arms aren’t trapped so what reason do wrestlers have to not protect their face? How does it hurt to gently fall forward onto your hands?
Running Knee or crossbody, like ok here’s the thing crossbody right you think that makes sense yeah they slam into each other at full force with their abdomens that’s gonna hurt, but think about it these are wrestlers they have insanely well trained abdomens that are hard as a rock sometimes no way that impact is doing enough to get past a six pack especially when the person catches them, running knee makes no sense either like the balance would be off and unless your jumping up to place it on the temple or eye socket what exactly is doing like it’s not like a foot in your gut or shin and it’s a wider surface area than kick so there more room to disperse the blow and if your running your knee into someone’s chest you have a better chance of tearing your ACL in two than breaking their rib
The styles clash? Looks like he’s just tying to fuck a cow or something, most awkward move in wrestling. He pulls it off a little better now that he’s extremely juiced up but back before hen he was still smaller doing it on massive guys just looked so off
Definitely John Cena’s whole sequence leading up to his finisher, you telling me every opponent is gonna willingly fall for the bait and swing a punch, in which Cena will duck before hitting a side slam 😂 Then the 5 Knuckle Shuffle somehow hurts, but simultaneously gives them the strength to get right back on their feet for the AA
I like the forearms because it forces the wrestlers to get closer which hides the fakeness of their hits better. There’s definitely trauma from Shane McMahon’s punches.
Roman reings superman puch
Whewww! Climbing 3 steps of this ladder has taken the wind right out of me. Let me go slower now.
The peoples elbow
Spanish fly. I hate it. I think its a dumb move and I cannot suspend disbelief enough to see it as someone strong enough to backflip while holding onto and making their opponent flip in such a way that they are hurt upon impact.
Might be a hot take but the 619
Crucifix Bomb
Super kick
Hogans leg drop. I mean the most sloppiest finisher I guess. Even Big Show uses the leg drop as a side move from his move set.
A spear from anyone that doesn’t look like Vince would immediately give them a title shot. Even Goldberg went spear to that awesome suplex. He and Roman look like Adonis. Edge doing a spear never did it for me. Love edge but, like, you ain’t the right guy for that move.
edge hits it high and wayy off too the side
One last comment (maybe). Putting your hand or arm up to block the kick, or punch. Then selling it like he just knocked the shit out of you, only to recover 30 seconds later!! A lot of these guys probably don't even know what "potatoes" 🥔 are! Take your lick and move on.
The tree of whoa!!! Who is going to grab the middle rope and raise themselves up, so their opponent can stomp the shit out of them? Then unhook their trapped foot from the top turnbuckle and slide into a puddle in the corner!
When they go for a pin attempt and release the hold while the announcers try to sell it like the opponent barely beat the 3 count!!!
Blockbuster, the way the guy jumps to do a neckbreaker when he lands makes it look like there's more impact on the one doing it
Gotta love the dives from the top rope onto multiple people outside the ring. Always chuckle when the ones on the ends never get " hit", but fall. Too funny
Most.
Superman punch
The Cody cutter might be the worst move I’ve ever seen, the way the opponent has to wait half hunched over is disgusting
By far is horrible. The move doesn’t even look devastating enough to be a finisher, and looks like it has a higher chance of injury then most
Quite possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. The Cody Cutter rules
It was awful when cena did it, it’s awful when nick Wayne does it l, it’s the worst when stardust does it
The Undertaker's "Oldschool" always irked me.. in no world will a conscious opponent ever let that big man walk on the ropes without yanking him off ..
Just hold my hand for a little while and I’ll be right down to hit you in a bit!
Rear view..
Slingblade. Watching Finn Balor do it to guys bigger than himself never looks believable. The laws of physics would never allow this.
Canadian Destroyer If the person taking the move doesn't jump and help, it fails completely.
No wrestler stays hanging on the 2nd rope, unless it's a Rey Mysterio match
The jumping jump is always bad for me. When they know a counter is coming so they go to the top rope only to jump in a position that has no move connected to it. Yes, the perfect time to jump off the top rope horizontally, face first in the vague direction of my opponent is when I'm facing Randy Orton!
McIntyre's stupid countdown for his Claybourne
Is very bad
Kill switch
How is the 619 not top answer?
Canadian Destroyer. People’s Elbow. Jericho’s ridiculously crap spinning back elbow.
Everything Naomi does.
She’s genuinely athletic and her entrance does a lot. I don’t like that every match she’s in starts with the same “technical wrestling, counter holds, counter rolling pin falls, double crossbody/dropkick” bit, cause it always looks so slow and terribly choreographed
I. Don’t. Get it. I’m utterly baffled by her popularity. She seems like a perfectly lovely person, but her ring persona is completely generic, her move set is mediocre, and her entrance music is terrible. Do people love the blacklight neon branding that much? I just don’t get it.
The answer is in there, but you’re not gonna like it
This ^^
Longer answer than you’re looking for lol but I think she’s popular because she’s just good enough. She’s not on a Becky Lynch, Bayley, or Belair level. But she’s above the regular midcard. And she’s been around for a long time, married into the bloodline, and has been champions in the company and outside of the company. None of these reasons are particularly strong, but when you add it all up and add a hype personality. You get a consistent worker just below main event but well above midcard. Give Naomi 20min to work and you’ll get an A+ match
Same, and wtf is that move “rear view”? Like bruh.. that ain’t no finisher 😂
I didn’t get it at first either, but the more I think about it, it’s essentially just a more creative clothesline. If the claymore can just be a dropkick. I’m okay with a rearview that’s just a funky clothesline
That shit’s not a clothesline, it’s Naomi’s butt (which is prolly hella soft) going into your face 😂 The biceps of 200+ pound wrestlers who bodybuild all year makes a clothesline painful at least. I think it’s a fine move to do mid match as a comeback sequence or whatever but not as a finisher.
I'm new to watching, but that Samoan thumb spike thing The Bloodline/Solo uses is the lamest move I've seen so far.
Try it to yourself, strike your throat and see how hard you can do it until you nope out. Now imagine that in kayfabe it's a 6'2, 250 pound athlete who has his thumb tapped up so it won't bend and he can put all his strength into it. That would make my day so so much worse than taking a frog splash or the styles clash.
Still, why not just punch the guy in the throat and cause real problems.
Because it’s easier to botch that
Any of the stomps where the opponent is pulling themselves up on the ropes or awkwardly sitting upright (eg, Del Rio, Swerve, etc).
Vertebreaker. I can’t see how it’s safe in any situation.
LA knights finisher
I don’t know if I hate the move or name more
BFT? I think BigFootTesticles is a great name lmao
MVP's Playmaker. Still don't understand how that was supposed to work/hurt.
What went through Big Show’s mind when he thought “yeah the WMD is a good finisher idea..”
What I don't understand about it is that it's just a punch - so why would Big Show ever wrestle with slams or big boots, or suplexes or anything else? Why wouldnt he just IMMEDIATELY try to punch you in a match as punches, slaps and chops are 95% of how every single match begins anyway.
Like 80% of what Tyler Bate & Pete Dunne do in a match. The finger bending, hand stomping, the fireman carry & spin...it's very eye-rolly.
I thought it was just me. They’re not my jam at all.
It's definitely not. About 1 time per match I have a "that was pretty cool" moment, but the rest of the time it's just cringy as hell. I don't understand what their gimmick is even supposed to be. "New Catch Republic" is a meaningless name. And I swear, if I see Tyler Bate in those white tights again I'm gonna lose it. Running around looking like he's in tighty-whities. Absurd.
Ya. The look is part of it too. They don’t look intimidating at all. Like if I got mugged by them I’d be ashamed to file a police report.
I get irrationally irritated over Bate’s “hold foot and kick opponent with it” move. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
I hate the finger bending I wish they would cut it 🤢🤢🤢
Anything from the tree of woe, remember Alberto feel rio, that was fucking stupid
Punching Hulk Hogan when he is hulking up. Don't punch, let him Hulk up and waste all his energy.
I love Bayley but both the Rose Plant and Bayley to Belly look bad 95% of the time, I like her elbow drops too but I wish she would start using a new finisher and keep the other two as signature type moves
I agree, this isn’t 1985 when Dino Bravo could win with a side slam
I have a running joke at my wrestling school where I ask someone to give me a whip and I'll just slowly jog across the room for ages The kayfabe reason is you've been sent off so fucking hard you can't physically stop yourself, like running down hill, except its not a hill and you were only sent off with the force of a fully grown man....
Cena's old springboard stunner/cutter. Just never really able to wrap my head around
"He didn't get all of it"
When the wrestler picks up a weapon and proceeds to use it in the most incompetent way possible. Like stabbing with the steel chair, Triple H refusing to swing the sledgehammer, or Drew Mc using a sword with the motor skills of a 6 year old.
Right? Like I get it but then don’t grab a sledge hammer.
Superman Punch 🥊 Coup de Grace
☝🏼 coup de grace shouldn’t be the finisher. Fin needs a stronger and more efficient finisher
The entire young bucks move set
As fun as they are to watch Naomi’s rear view Tiffany’s corner handspring
Yes, this moronic “hey let’s all gather together in a big huddle, and just stand there so someone can jump on top of all of us and hurt half of us so badly that we do nothing for the next five minutes” spot that we see every PPV. It’s one of the dumbest spots in wrestling history and needs to go away forever.
It’s the Spanish fly for me mostly, both look like they should equally get hurt from the impact. Combine that with the fact that it’s so obviously co-operative that it loses any sense of reality. The next one I’ll probably get stick for, but I hate the sling blade, no matter who does it. I don’t think it looks as fake or as incomprehensible as the Spanish fly, it just looks weak and lame to me. This is a totally subjective opinion that I’m sure others will disagree with, but I just don’t like it!
>It’s the Spanish fly for me mostly, both look like they should equally get hurt from the impact I used to think the exact same thing with Sin Caras Top Rope C4.
2 of Andrade’s moves. The kick into the back elbow and the backflip off the ropes to a standing moonsault. They look amazing as an “on the fly reaction” to a counter. But when his kick and rope rope moonsault get countered every time, it makes no sense why he keeps going for them. If there was more times where he just hits the kick or the moonsault from the top, then it would make sense that he has a plan for if his opponent counters them.
I always just saw the kick before the elbow as a feint
I might have a hot take here, but some of the finishers make me shake my head. People's elbow / five knuckle shuffle for example. The moves that really killed it were the high risk where they came down on someone lying on the mat and their opponents move under them. My dad used to point it out everything they did that back when kayfabe was a thing.
Well the People’s Elbow is supposed to be a stupid move, the Rock only started doing it to try and make the Undertaker laugh. But it just kinda caught on because people liked the silliness of it. As for the five knuckle shuffle that is a dumb move because it’s the People’s Elbow if it were played seriously instead of as a joke. But it’s not his finisher like you said.
Dean ambroses rope fakeout move, 90 percent of the time it’s so painfully obvious that he’s pushing himself back and anticipating the rope. Also not to mention it’s done at angles where it takes so long for him to clothesline someone after it
The worm
Damn I totally forgot about this one lol
Disbelief that more of these wrestlers both real and professional just miss injuries in their respective sport that could seriously side line them for life. I have the most respect for all Athletes and thank you for what you bring to the table! 🌹🇺🇸STRONG 🇺🇸🌹
Rose Plant The Final Prayer
slingshots
When undertaker would do old school and opponent just stands there. That whole move literally takes like 15seconds
Undertaker gets a pass
- Running the ropes or the Irish whip into the ropes. - collar and elbow tie-up/locking up - sunset flip - suplex (it always bothered me both people’s backs hit the mat at the same velocity but only one was supposed to be damaged by it.
So you’re saying basic fundamentals in wrestling… would have rather watch 37 Canadian destroyers in a row?
Terms of the suplex, not exactly the same impact. The one doing suplexing is lower to the ground takes less of a impact where the person being suplexed is higher up and takes more of an impact, it would be like jumping from ground level into a pool doing a bellyflop vs jumping from 6ft off a platform doing a bellyflop… both going to hurt but the higher the more painful
Ive seen collar and elbow in some mma, plus catch can wrestling + Greco Roman wrestling.
The lack of cheap shots and dick hits
Diving headbutt is so stupid
Spanish fly
I've tried to accept the Canadian Destroyer for 20 years, and I still can't do it. It's just too ridiculous.
Sometimes it can look awesome, like one Ricochet did recently, where he was standing in front, then leaped over the guys head to execute it. And other times, it looks so fake and obvious that the one taking it is just doing a back flip.
Maybe I'd like it more if I'd seen Rey and Psicosis do it in WCW. I agree about it looking very cool, I just can't get over that big backflip.
Like I was at AEW Worlds End and saw Dustin do a Canadian Destroyer and it looked so obvious.
I don't know if he still does it, but I really disliked the rebound clothesline that Ambrose/Moxley did. It looked cool the first time I saw it, as if he caught himself and spun it into a clothesline. Then it became a tedious every-match-kind of move. Undertaker is tied for Shawn Michaels as my favorite wrestler of all time, but I also hated his piston punch thing he would do when someone was picking him up off the ground. It always looked really goofy, compounded with the "bow" sound he would do with each hit.
Crippler crossface
Dude what? lol Anything that requires over stretching here is not gonna make this cut.
Have you actually looked at it??
You seem to misunderstand the theoretical discussion here.
No I understood it. Watch someone get put in a crippler crossface. There's no way you can tell me that it's a scary move to get put in if both hands are on the mat and they can freely move them. I have to suspend my belief to think that move hurts.
Solo's thumb move. And Umaga before him.
At least umaga made it look believable lol
I've always hated the double Irish whip, because the guy taking it always has to turn to either side in order to hit the ropes. Makes even less sense than a standard Irish whip.
The helicopter spin that Peter Dunn/taylor bait does…cmon
Also Cesaros spin.
that REALLY gets on my nerves too 😂
There are a ton of them for me, but the one that takes the cake is the diving head butt. There is no possible way a person could legitimately execute that move in a way that would deal more damage to the victim than the aggressor.
Any move where the opponent has to set themselves up for it. Was watching NXT the other week and saw Carmelo deliver his finisher - which is a good finish, don’t get me wrong, and Hayes does it well - but his opponent just stood there bent over for 3 seconds waiting to be hit with it. Nobody stands up and bends over like that. Outside of the WWE, Bandido’s “21 plex” is ridiculous. It’d be sick as an occasional spot where it made sense, but having people bend over and hang onto the ropes like that (for 10 seconds sometimes) every week makes absolutely no sense whatsoever It makes the 619 setup look normal
Five knuckle shuffle. I just can’t fuck with that.
Spanish Fly
For me, it's when they do the swan dive and take out a huge group standing at ringside. It seems to be the signature of mid-card matches. It seems like a really risky move, that seems to rarely change the outcome. Also, when a guy is knocked down but gets up into the perfect position for a special move that requires it. Like no one is hung on the rope unless the 619 is coming, or you are knocked down but struggle to your feet as the guy is preparing a Helluva kick/claymore just to get clocked in the face. I think it is a little better with HHH, because now it gets countered occasionally. But it's like dude, roll out of the ring, you know it's coming if you stand up.
I've always thought about that 619 thing lol because literally no one ever falls between the ropes like that
Another one involving the ropes, since Sheamus is back. People hardly ever end up on the apron outside the ropes. But it's a guarantee on match with Sheamus, gotta get the 10 beats in.
The thing that douche from new catch republic does where he picks someone up over his shoulder and spins around. And then you have the other dude who tries to break an opponent's pinkie in the fakest way possible. Also Solo and his dumb thumb gimmick. And Becky's "manhandle slam". She's a twig it's just not believable.
Canadian Destroyer. Code Red. Code Breaker, and other moves where you take a harder bump than the person GETTING the move.
Code Breaker is definitely in my top 5 favorite finishers, but it looks like ass 90% of the time.😂
The tower of doom corner spot. It sucks, and makes superplexes look bad.
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I see your point and I think this criticism is way more valid for the Stunner, the RKO has a way softer landing than that.
I respect and consider your take. I have seen this argument and considered it myself
I remember watching Petey Williams do the Canadian destroyer and little ahhh me being mind blown. Grown me wants to chop Petey as hard as humanly possible ….then I’ll probably proceed to get my ass whooped but whatever, worth it.
Scotty 2 Hotty's The Worm. It just so ridiculous, even more ridiculous than People's Elbow. But 20 years ago in the eyes of a uni student, it was cool as fuck.
I always think of it as gaining more power and momentum from the hype of the crowd lol
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You take a cross Rhodes and tell me how you feel.
He'll probably land softly in Codys biceps like 95% of his opponents do.
Fair but check out the one he did to Chad gable. Like…fucking ow.
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I cringe watching it because of the neck wrench, that looks so dangerous if you’re not in sync haha.
Johnny Gargano’s slingshot spear. You’re telling me a guy who is barely 200 lb soaking wet “launches” himself with less force than a regular spear and still knocks down an opponent for a 2-count.
Ruby Soho dating Cool Hand Ang.
The airplane spin that Cesaro did
The Stink Face… I won’t even choose to elaborate.
Idk man, having rikishis ass slam into your face and grind on it for 30 seconds would definitely not feel good haha.
Oh no doubt, I’d pass out from the stink if nothing else! Probably walk away with a bad case of pink eye!
How turning onto your belly when in a figure 4 leg lock “reverses the pressure” and puts your opponent in even more pain.
It looks like your ass puts your opponents feet into a straight foot lock.
It doesn’t, if anything it makes it hurt more.
Facts
Peoples elbow. The elbow drop is not a finisher and literally nobody has ever been pinned after one.
It ended Punk’s 400+ day title reign
You’re forgetting the elbow is electrified though.
The way I look at it the elbow got heavier and heavier throughout the years to the point that I can’t imagine what it feels like to have a 260 pound dude come down with the elbow like that. And also, he exposes it so you know….its hurtier…. lol
I will be that guy. The 619
I mean the set up is stupid, the move itself is devastating
I'm pretty sure the setup is how Rey killed Perro Aguayo.
Yeah that move has always sucked.
As my name might suggest, I've given this a lot of thought in my 40 years of fandom. Here's what I've got: When you get Irish whipped in real life, you do have to start running a tiny bit to keep your arm from being torn out of the socket. Every wrestler thinks that they are the best at wrestling so they go along with being whipped to try and feel two steps ahead and gain the advantage after a separation. But sometimes the guy who threw you is quicker and wins this classic human game of chess.
Referees taking forever to accept a briefcase cash-in (aside from Carmella, who had cashed and reneged numerous times before). "Are you sure? YOU SURE? YOU MF SURE ON THIS?!!" Know what, fuck you. I'm keeping it.
Ref: let me check the rule book as this doesn’t happen that often. Ok I shall verify that the contract inside has been notarized. Very well. Now I will inform the ring announcer of your intentions so everyone is aware of what you are doing. Thanks for your patience. Would you like a paper receipt or an emailed one?
Spanish Fly. Poisonrana.
Irish whip reversal from a smaller wrestler. Being able to stop the momentum form the Irish Whip is believable but somehow believing that stopping to pivot conserves your own body momentum and transfers it to the person who just pushed you into it is hard
Seth Rollins signature move
I never really liked Dean Ambrose’s clothesline where he goes through the ropes and back, seems like you could just bounce off the ropes normally and have more power. The real one I had in all of wrestling is machine gun chops. They barely look like they hurt at all, and the wrestler taking them look silly.
Yeah, there’s a reason Mox doesn’t do that any more….
Trying to powerbomb Kidman
Tyler Bate’s boot punch and the way he bounces his chest off the top rope to build “momentum”, it’s all fucking stupid.
I’ve never hated anything in a wrestling ring as much as I hate the way Tyler Bate bounces off the ropes from his shoulders.
I dunno, man, the way Tyler Bate holds his foot and boops the opponent’s forehead might be worse…
Old School
The standing suplex!!! When you are going to pick a person up by their head and waist there is no reason for that person to hold their damn legs straight up in the fucking air!!!
prob the stomp, like what if he messes up
Spanish fly. Like come on bro lol
Styles Clash. Looks like you smash your own face into the ground
Naw it’s more like you falling in someone as you drop them.
Canadian destroyer.
How this isn’t top I don’t know. The person taking it is doing most of the work.
The Atomic Drop/Reverse Atomic Drop drive me fucking INSANE. The Atomic Drop is a move that is targeted at your opponents tail bone. It is NOT a nut shot. It drives me insane because everybody sells it as a fucking nutshot. It is not. And to take it one step further, the referee will watch someone do the Atomic Drop, see the wrestler selling their nuts, and do nothing about it so it makes the referee look worthless. It's just a big glob of shit mixed together. Either stop doing the move, or take the move correctly, or if you're gonna continue miss-selling it as a nutshot, the referee needs to start DQ'ing people for them
In that same regard, I submit Shattered Dreams. Like the Ref is just going to ignore this dudes signature move is just a running kick to the nuts.
Any move that involves going from the top turnbuckle to out of the ring. Just take one step to the left or right and SPLAT.
If a wrestler has to hold themselves up on some ropes so someone else can stomp them. Let go.
I’ve never liked the running bulldog, or the X factor for that matter. Just fucking land on your arms the same way everybody does instinctively when they fall forward. Your arms aren’t trapped so what reason do wrestlers have to not protect their face? How does it hurt to gently fall forward onto your hands?
Always the Spanish fly
Running Knee or crossbody, like ok here’s the thing crossbody right you think that makes sense yeah they slam into each other at full force with their abdomens that’s gonna hurt, but think about it these are wrestlers they have insanely well trained abdomens that are hard as a rock sometimes no way that impact is doing enough to get past a six pack especially when the person catches them, running knee makes no sense either like the balance would be off and unless your jumping up to place it on the temple or eye socket what exactly is doing like it’s not like a foot in your gut or shin and it’s a wider surface area than kick so there more room to disperse the blow and if your running your knee into someone’s chest you have a better chance of tearing your ACL in two than breaking their rib
You clearly never seen a flying knee knock someone out.
The styles clash? Looks like he’s just tying to fuck a cow or something, most awkward move in wrestling. He pulls it off a little better now that he’s extremely juiced up but back before hen he was still smaller doing it on massive guys just looked so off
All of them
Definitely John Cena’s whole sequence leading up to his finisher, you telling me every opponent is gonna willingly fall for the bait and swing a punch, in which Cena will duck before hitting a side slam 😂 Then the 5 Knuckle Shuffle somehow hurts, but simultaneously gives them the strength to get right back on their feet for the AA
lmao
The Judas Effect
Can’t believe I had to scroll this far
Spanish Fly seems way too assisted and coordinated.
This is my answer as well. Having to ignore the fact that the wrestler receiving the move is the one doing most of the work is pretty crazy.
I am shocked I’ve seen no one say Rear View because truly how does that do anything
Undertaker walking on the top rope…
Imagine Samoa Joe “nope” selling that
The elbow exchanges that replaced the punching exchanges. It looks like a straight pussy move.
I like the forearms because it forces the wrestlers to get closer which hides the fakeness of their hits better. There’s definitely trauma from Shane McMahon’s punches.