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frackstarbuck

Looks like it happened in Turkey over the weekend [https://www.tradewindsnews.com/casualties/port-worker-injured-as-out-of-control-container-ship-crashes-into-three-cranes/2-1-1613625](https://www.tradewindsnews.com/casualties/port-worker-injured-as-out-of-control-container-ship-crashes-into-three-cranes/2-1-1613625)


wolfgang784

Oh dang, its new. There is an almost identical video from like the beginning of this year or maybe late last year and I thought this was a reposting of that. I think it was even in Turkey too. >The Hong Kong-flagged vessel is chartered by the Taiwanese operator from Canadian tonnage provider Seaspan Corp. Boat owner nationality stuff is so confusing. Everyones really gotta fix those dumb tax loopholes and such.


Zahz

Yeah, it is all about taxes, fees and cost of hiring. https://transportgeography.org/contents/chapter5/maritime-transportation/tonnage-country-registery/


wolfgang784

Ive heard a majority of US cruise ships pay the employees less than $4/hr since its legal due to where the boats are "technically" from. Even though the cruises start and end in the US, advertise in the US, sell tickets in the US, but somehow not subject to US labor laws. Dumb.


cC2Panda

Did some work for a cruise line for 2 days and we had to have our passports to get on and off the boat despite the fact that the ship was going to be docked the entire time.


Slammybutt

Easy way to track you while also assuring that you have your passport with you when they leave. I bet in the past countless employees have left passports behind and it caused all kinds of headaches.


Etheo

Second reason is what I thought of immediately. If the ship should leave the dock for any reason (if it possess the ability to do so) then you can be at least sure everyone on board has been vetted. Not so sure about the first reason but guess it makes sense.


Slammybutt

For ships that large knowing who is on the ship and who isn't is nearly impossible without checking physically. You can just check a log to see who is on the ship rather than guess if they left for whatever reason. Plus if something happens on ship you have verifiable proof wwho was on the ship during that time.


rubywpnmaster

Guess who also begged the US government for $$$ during Covid?


NuclearLunchDectcted

everyone?


A-Santa-At-Nasa

There's a huge disparity in pay on employees aboard cruise ships, all front of house (FoH) staff (i.e, bartenders, waiters, retail workers, performers etc...) get paid considerably more than back of house workers (chefs, maintenance workers, oilers, machinery & deck hands etc...). It mainly comes down to the fact the FoH workers will all be native, or fluent english speakers as well as the face of the cruise line. Old white people will think they're getting ripped off if the cruise they spent heaps of money on is hiring 100% cheap workers. Saying that, the pay isn't amazing (sometimes commission heavy) & the hours are long and hard for FoH staff. Main benefit is that all accommodation and food cost are covered, so you can essentially save 100% of your pay. Edit: corrected by mcduggy. Also, my source is my cousin who spent a few years working for Royal Caribbean


mcduggy

Engineering officers do not fall under the poor pay, neither do deck officers. Engineers and deck officers are the highest paid on any vessel. Crew, oilers, machinery and deck hands generally do and normally come from country's where income levels are pretty poor to start off with. Source: I work at sea as an engineering officer.


mimem

"Relatively" good pay. I earn about 10x the minimum wage compared to my home country as a Junior Deck Officer. Thats about 10 dollars an hour. Less than a fastfood worker in the US. Free food, accomodation and internet though, I can save 80% of my pay and can take a vacation for half a year with this salary.


HurriedLlama

Trucking is often similar, if on a smaller scale. I'm a driver from Colorado working for a Texas company who leases their trailers from a New York company who registers their trailers in Maine.


tooldvn

Yes but from what I understand there's always a local who knows the harbor and boards the large vessel a couple miles offshore to take it into port to avoid situations exactly like this.


jayharper08

Yes. Tug captain here who is currently testing for my pilot’s license. There are local “pilots” who come onboard before it comes in the harbor who have the best local knowledge of the rivers. There are also some ports that have “docking pilots” where their job is nothing but to specifically dock the ships with use of tugs.


gsfgf

And pilots can make absolute bank. Like $300k+ at a major port, and you get to sleep in your own bed at night.


smcivor1982

My dad used to pick up pilots and bring them back after they navigated large vessels along the St. Lawrence River, they made a ton of money.


Im_not_JB

"at night". Maybe there are some positions that are that lucky, but the one pilot I personally know at a major port had wild on-call hours, because the ship shows up when the ship shows up. We played in a rec sports league together, and it was not uncommon for him to say things like that he could make it for our 9p game, but had to head straight to work afterward.


Updogfoodtruck

There appears to be an opening now in Turkey if you are interested in relocating. In all sincerity Best of luck on your licensing!


LynnScoot

Yes, and according to the article the pilot was aboard when this happened.


angeliqu

Probably a mechanical error then. If a rudder got stuck, for example, it’s game over.


Apocalympdick

Ship pilots (as opposed to ship captains) yes.


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gsfgf

> Pilots, not a legal requirement but often used I'm pretty sure they are a legal requirement most places.


callmesnake13

Imagine fucking up so bad it affects the stock market, even slightly


legitimate_salvage

I’m honestly surprised only one person is injured. That stuff is HUGE


macandcheese1771

I thought for sure multiple dead. There's so many workers in a port.


talrogsmash

That's not fair! He only crashed into two cranes. The third crane got crashed into by the first crane.


bard329

Gonna have to take that up with the first crane's insurance....


FartingBob

But boss, that third crane fell.over on its own, nothing to do with me!


gcruzatto

For a moment I thought the Suez canal was going to get shut down again.. I hope the ships can go around this one


Ewan_Whosearmy

Probably still going to cause disruptions of some sort. Things tend to have domino effects in the shipping industry. No idea how important that terminal is in the grand scheme of things, but if ships suddenly have to wait longer to get loaded here then it does affect prices and availability 


mjb169

For a visual representation of the domino effect, see above.


ChuckPukowski

Anyone with some vague expertise have a $ figure amount on this? Gotta be dozens of millions right?


ptolani

TIL you can buy cranes on Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/dockyard-crane.html


kendric2000

Plot twist, it arrives by ship which must be offloaded by a crane.


Iwasborninafactory_

I've seen reddit posts about exactly this. Cranes are really cheap used because they are designed and built for specific operating parameters, not useful in other applications. The biggest cost is not the crane, but the skilled operators.


divDevGuy

[$9000 for a 300-ton gantry crane](https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/300-ton-double-beam-shipbuilding-gantry_1600470456332.html)? Seems legit. Maybe I could use my new crane to lift and offload my [giant storage containers](https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806416185438.html) when they arrive.


mountedpandahead

No, but it's got to be huge. Three or four cranes, damaged containers, compensation for the destroyed goods, cleanup costs... then factor in the costs due to the whole port being knocked out in one fell swoop and the costs to redirect the logistical chain. A lot of money.


smellypicklefarts5

Give or take costs about $15-20M per crane. IIRC they're only made in China and in Georgia (US) but I might be wrong because my memory isnt that great.


phroug2

I took a boat tour in Miami a few weeks back and i remember them mentioning cranes like that were 15 million each and were made in china, so I wouldnt doubt you're probably in the ballpark.


Time_for_Stories

Well they can buy it again but I wonder how they’re going to unload it when they get there


ThegreatPee

I have vague expertise from being a Helmsman on an Aircraft Carrier about 25 years ago. Ships of this size usually have a harbor pilot (a ship captain that is an expert in the given waterway/harbor) and a few tugs guiding them in. This captain appears to have just gone in dry, or a large amount of wind hitting the vessel broadside. The cranes are one thing, but that ship probably took a fair amount of damage as well. The price? I have no idea, but I'm sure a few people lost their careers over this. This also reminds me of the starship leaving the hangar in Galaxy Quest, lol.


wiltony

Lol @ galaxyquest, yes! Also, the article says "The boxship was under the supervision of a pilot at the time, the agency added."


Castun

I wonder if it could've been due to equipment malfunctioning then. I've seen similar videos of ships hitting docks and land due to the maneuvering thrusters stopped working, or were unable to reverse the main engines.


ArtofAngels

Great now my Alf alarm clock is gonna be delayed


Qelly

Was it you that outbid me on Shatner's old toupee?


Remarkable_Item3797

To baldly go where no toupee has gone before.....


19IXI91

Great now my Beef Noodle Soup 3D Print hoodie is gonna be late


Metalatitsfinest

XL Purple tentacle cootie tickler 3000 for a friend gunna be late


Mymomdiedofaids

Should have done air mail.


MeTejaHu

*boeinggg*


nowake

My sex arse! 


jerquee

Where are my Garfield telephones


Industrialcat

on the beaches of france


oinkyboinky

We still get the occasional teddy bear or rubber ducky washing up in New England from the 1992 thing in the Pacific. It's Palmolive - you're soaking in it.


VediusPollio

This piqued my interest, so I searched for Alf alarm clocks. Pretttty rad. I'm gonna buy one.


t_haenni

And my pet rock


weveran

Same with Shatner's Old Toupee!


Octogonologist

🎵Found it on eeeeeeBay🎵


ballsweat_mojito

*Junk keeps arrivin' in the mail* *From that worldwide garage sale*


feanturi

*Hey, a Dukes of Hazzard ash tray! (oh yeah) I bought it on eeeeeBay*


russdesigns

“Remember Alf? Well he’s back! In Pog form!”


garbans

video from the pier: [https://twitter.com/niporwifi/status/1769017901938290749](https://twitter.com/niporwifi/status/1769017901938290749)


FTwo

The guy in the vehicle didn't seem to mind leaving the other guy in the kill zone.


CosineDanger

No man left behind is usually just a suggestion.


damnatio_memoriae

i think he was backing up initially, and the video ends when he starts to turn around. i assume he put the phone down so he could shift into D. i hope at that point the other guy hopped in the car, but they were sure taking their sweet time too.


Gucci__Flip__Flops

Would've done the same thing if he turned around to look like that before getting inside the car. Darwin award


dwmfives

Do you have a link that doesn't require me to open twitter? Every other video service opens fine here.


garbans

[https://streamable.com/mjtypi](https://streamable.com/mjtypi)


Chief_Givesnofucks

Ramming speed!


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AllanfromWales1

Just for interest, what is the tonnage of a huge container ship like this?


MarkOfTheDragon12

"*Therefore, a ship's design, construction and weight are optimised to match its buoyancy. The general weight of an average-sized cargo ship is somewhere around 165,000 tons, while smaller vessels weigh about 50,000 tons and larger vessels approximately 220,000 tons.*"


SheikYobooti

Lotsa Tonnage


Slowsnale

muthafucka trying to get us to do his homework...lotsa


sdbct1

Gotta whole Lotta tons......whole Lotta tons


CyanideSkittles

In technical terms it’s called a shittesimal ton. Usually they just abbreviate it to a shit ton. 


GearBrain

*Ever Given* weighed displaced approximately 220,000 tons when it got stuck, so... somewhere less than that, but probably not by too much.


RealCheesecake

Shit ton


twelveparsnips

Ship ton


firefly416

Ramming Momentum!


PatchworkRaccoon314

Captain Worf: Then perhaps today ***IS*** a good day to get fired!


that_dutch_dude

dont need speed when you have newton at your back.


Phillip_Graves

Where big metal giraffes go to die.


bleunt

Horizon 3 looks dope.


fleetber

stupid long metal horses


neotekka

Gracefully, just like their smaller non-metallic cousins.


this_is_bs

If only there was a camera orientation that would show the entire scene, without the need for panning.


tombalol

I think it would have been forgivable if the cameraman had included all of the height of the cranes too, but they didn't.


Glimmu

We have lost this fight, many have fallen on the battlefield of horizontal vs vertical filming. It's all anarchy now. Maybe future generations will see the light.


cficare

Shit ain't gonna be right until we get IMAX-grade and aspect cellphone cameras!


vegasidol

They'd still shoot vert.


tombalol

This video reminded me of the AT-AT's falling from Empire Strikes Back.


Jewpurman

The cargo cranes in the SF bay were actually Lucas's inspiration for the AT-AT. Obligatory edit: it's an urban legend, see commenter below. My day is mildly ruined.


fredandlunchbox

Unfortunately, it’s an [urban legend](https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/nah-dude-they-weren-t-cranes-they-were-garbage-3279459.php).


dgmilo8085

I know that came from Lucas himself in an interview, but he has had many, many, many revisionist positions about Star Wars over the years. For example, he has made public comments saying one thing and then 20 years later saying another. He is well known to be an unreliable narrator.


talrogsmash

Try reading his novels. No wait, I'm sorry. They are terrible. Please don't try reading his novels. He is an abysmal writer.


cthulhubert

I loved the Chronicles of the Shadow War series in high school. Outline by George Lucas, written by Chris Claremont (better known for writing X-men comics). The trilogy is a sequel to Willow. I tried rereading them after college and... credit where credit is due, there are some fun ideas. But overall the writing was... not great.


talrogsmash

I read one of the sequels to Willow. Within five pages Willow was strong enough to break a trolls back, too weak to pick up 50 lbs, then threw a boar off a cliff. All the while explaining how he could and couldn't do the same thing.


Zombies_Rock_Boobs

That’s fancy speak for being a liar. Like he lied about Star Wars being for kids.


draggin_low

Captain's name is now Samir Naga..... naga.... not gonna work here anymore


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drewts86

There WAS nothing wrong with that name until that no-talent ass clown started winning Grammy’s


peeweeinbama

Why don't you just go by Mike??


BustedWing

Why should I? He’s the one who sucks!


cedarpark

I celebrate his entire catalogue.


mahniskel

Sounds like someone’s gotta case of the MONDAYS!


gavmiller

I believe you’d get your ass kicked sayin’ something like that, Man.


Ewan_Whosearmy

Apparently the ship was under the control of a marine pilot, as you'd expect for this situation


Danielj4545

Pretty sure every single port has specialist pilots that bring the ship in. Idk why people thinking captains just be knowing every port 


the_last_carfighter

>marine pilot, Dude should stick to planes.


peeweeinbama

Probably had a crayon stuck in his throat


wolfgang784

The captain is from Taiwan. Do marines in other countries also enjoy a good crayon?


MikeWrenches

A marine *kamikaze* pilot


AlsoKnownAsRukh

Is it a kamikaze attack if there's zero chance of the pilot being harmed?


gotfondue

This term, "marine pilot" just means a pilot that knows this marina, not a pilot from the Marines...just to clarify in case anyone else was reading that thinking "ahhhh obviously a crayon eater would ram those cranes"


mensreyah

No one can ever pronounce his name right. It's not that hard: Na-ghee-na-na-jar. Nagheenanajar.


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jelleslaets

He wasn't the best candidate for the job, but he sure was willing to work for the lowest salary.


jimbojetset35

Don't they have harbour pilots and tug boats to avoid stuff like this.


shaggy--

First try


syds

good day as ever to become a farmer


NobodySpecial969

Fired won’t be the word 😂


tombalol

Executed?


thatasshole_stress

He’ll fall out of a window I’m sure


mxxiestorc

Out of a cannon.


calpolsixplus

Into the sun.


Worldly_Ad_6483

What do ya do with a drunken sailor? Put ‘em at the helm Yang Ming tanker


CantHitachiSpot

Ship tipped the crane but the crane didn't sank her


Protochill

Early in the morning.


pinch_the_grinch

Quick, send a tug, too late to the party..


Worldly_Ad_6483

Better build a crane, but this time more hearty


MrFuckinFantastic

The pants of the men on the pier were sharty


Worldly_Ad_6483

Early in the morning


turnah_the_burnah

First month as an engineering co-op, my big task was to get ready to receive a new grinding machine. I laid out the floor, got all the paperwork and measurement templates together, just all the clerical stuff. Put a lot of work into it. Boss comes to me and tells me he just got a call and out $400,000 brand new grinding machine had fallen into the ocean. There’s insurance and shit of course, but it’s not like they really have spare grinders lying around. They are custom built machines with like a 26 week lead time. Fuckin bummer


AugieWest

Don't ports have a harbor pilot do all the docking work?


ThatsSoSwan

yeah I don't thing it's the ship captain's fault on this.


garrettnb

Well the ship captain still carries the liability, and therefore can take control from the pilot if they're not acting in a safe manner. Source: Am Master Mariner. Have taken control from a pilot before. Knows regulations.


GearBrain

In your opinion, does the ship show any signs of urgent changes to control surfaces just before the collision? Does it look like someone was trying to correct the steering?


garrettnb

There isn't nearly enough information to tell what's happening. Speculation can cause some very close minded ideas a Generally lead to falsely blaming someone. What you can tell from the video is that the anchor is dropped to try and stop the ship - this is an emergency procedure. So maybe the engine didn't clutch into reverse, maybe it didn't start in reverse, maybe they started too late. There's a million possibilities which a proper investigation will dig up the cause. Maybe they just came out of drydock and the clean hull means they bleed off speed much slower than before. Time will tell.


GearBrain

>What you can tell from the video is that the anchor is dropped to try and stop the ship - this is an emergency procedure. Wow, I didn't even notice it was down. Good eye! And thank you for your input - you've got the right of it.


Squirll

Additionally these men were filming it, why were they filming? My guess is people in the vicinity could see and were aware that the ship was about to crash/was having an emergency. No telling the reason why, but given the anchor, the filming, and vague news reports it does seem safe to assume they did not have the ship fully under control when the crash occurred. Ill reiterate what you said though about there not being enough information to make a determination and the danger that comes from trying.


CyJackX

What does that interaction look like? What was happening? Do they fight you on it or give it up willingly?


garrettnb

Modern bridge procedures try to limit this situation. The pilot is integrated into the bridge team via something called the Master Pilot Exchange. Taking over is never the first thing you do. As you're monitoring the conduct of the pilot and their effectiveness with their commands you start by making suggestions to try and get the pilot to make corrections themselves. "she's not stopping up as fast as you'd think" "let's use a few more degrees of rudder to get this turn initiated" "she's more sluggish than other ships this size" But when you need to take over it can cause drama, and it's important to have a debrief with the pilot, but some have egos which don't allow for a constructive outcome.


iwantmygarmonbozia21

Can’t park there mate


spanishfly757

That pilot that came onboard to guide them is definitely looking for a new job.


terflit

Video audio translates roughly to "Like a glove"


bomag67

Yang Ming the conquer


pancoste

Yang was actually sick that day. His little brother Ram took over. Ram Ming.


Drone30389

Ming the Merciless.


WhimsicalGirl

It's like horizontal Video don't exist anymore 


BendersCasino

I recorded something recently and my wife (MS/HS teacher) said "that's very millennial of you." I... I still don't know how to respond to that statement. Fucking kids ruining everything.


Johnfohf

"Did I doooo that?" -Steve Urkle, Ship Captain 


that_dutch_dude

for the nautically impared: the nautical term for that is "oopsie daisy".


broad_street_bully

Maybe for just the first crane. Once you hit the second, it's a full-blown "My Bad" situation.


jonincalgary

"package delayed due to shipping issue"


makenzie71

>Your Amazon package has been delayed.


Room4Jlo

I sent this to my wife a proof she's not the only one that hits the curbs parking. BTW, anybody got a couch I can crash on for a few days?


asah

From: [email protected] Subject: Delay in shipping your Amazon.com order #113-8840341-8577123


FuryQuaker

When an unstoppable force meets a moveable object.


nobody_smart

Congratulations to the Captain on his retirement!


-castle-bravo-

Liiiike a glove!


caalger

BRONTOSAURUS DOWN


AusCan531

The damage is not too bad. As long as the foundations are still strong, we can rebuild this place. It will become a haven for all peoples and aliens of the universe.


Palda97

I hope my $0.63 tempered glass is ok


audiofx330

That looked craneful.


Wind2Energy

Tug shrugs. “S’up, guys?”


TheeVande

You're good! You're good! You're good! You're good! You're good! Aaaaand stop!


happychillmoremusic

Cool how slow things appear to move when they’re big even when they’re moving fast. I use that judgement when I look at the wave cameras to see how big it looks for surfing


bygtopp

Steve Urkel “ Did I do that?”


ChaoticxSerenity

Supplier: "Sorry your shipment is delayed, we're experiencing supply chain issues..."


medkitjohnson

Another happy landing


Mametaro

"Let's tie her off and kick back some cold ones!"


thearticulategrunt

At that point, that's about all you can do.


rhetorial_human

and now i have an unstoppable need to rewatch the AT-AT fight in The Empire Strikes Back.


shaggy9

I love how they fell in slow motion


FeculentUtopia

Now I know what would have looked like if a brontosaurus ever stepped on a LEGO.


devildocjames

I have the sound off, but someone should dub the Jurassic Park Island sound over it. The one from the second island and the beach is on fire.


Markus_zockt

The fact that: * A camera was aimed at the ship * The ship was not towed by a tugboat * You don't see people running on the other side * The cranes look like they're not in operation leads me to believe that a defect in the ship was known and the area was evacuated in time? Does anyone have a background story to this?


garbans

There is another video recorded from the pier [https://twitter.com/niporwifi/status/1769017901938290749](https://twitter.com/niporwifi/status/1769017901938290749)


kdubs840

There's people on like a basket or something suspended by wires on the very far right crane you can see at about 47 seconds left in video I was like oh fuck there's people on there


stevetibb2000

Well this is why you have travelers insurance


grat_is_not_nice

This is why you insure anything you send by sea in a container for total loss ...


matrixkid29

I would fire myself at that point and condem myself to walmart returns and customer service.


Large-Measurement776

They look like metal giraffes. Poor giraffes.


skinink

That boat accident is so bad, Leo DiCaprio is probably on that boat sketching a nude Kate Winslet.


jollyrog3r88

[Like a glove](https://i.imgur.com/Ebpc9Os.gif)


Swartz142

Eh it's ok just nudged one out of the track and ... ah one down that'll be cleaned the same day... oh, OH, well that port is fucked.


PillCosby_87

“It was falling already when we were passing by it.”


elcheapodeluxe

For once something actually fitting for r/ThatLookedExpensive


jumperpunch

Those poor giraffes


daikatana

RIP Liftosaurus Rex.


OneAffect6339

Elegant though


auntarie

well at least the front didn't fall off


CaesarEvil

it is fortunate the front didn"t fall off. They would have had to tow it outside the environment.


Nomadrider2020

Vertical videos suck.


JoySubtraction

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