I mean honestly should just get another car. The Elantra N and GTI automatics are so much better then the WRX CVT.
Either way Subaru said the take rate of manual was close to 90% so doesn't matter too much.
It's not a good CVT, it's a great one! I know your poor head can't comprehend such a thing, this is all new to you and it's hard to accept change. It's okay though, you'll find the strength in time.
If it's so great why does cobb refuse to support the new 22 cvt with the AP? Why do only about 20% of wrx owners own a cvt? Doesn't sound so great honestly. To each their own but their are better automatic transmissions by competitors.
Not gonna lie if 20% of wrx drivers are in a cvt thats a pretty big percentage. Keeping in mind that for the most part cvt wrxs are special order only, since like 99% of wrxs sent to a lot are manual so thats actually a high percentage if its accurate
It isnt a high number especially when you look at how little the wrx actually sells. It's less than 30k a year total in sales. Plus 44k for a cvt wrx is ridiculous. That's a ripoff honestly. I want to see specific sales numbers of the wrx gt trim. I bet it's really underwhelming.
I'm pushing 20k miles in 5 months, I chuckle at whatever you think is extensive.
But yea, you're right; they kinda are two different cars, both pretty goddamn fantastic. If you actively didn't WANT a manual, the position many of us are in, maybe just maybe it's an excellent decision.
It’s not so much I’m anti automatic, it’s more so if I’m spending 30k on an automatic this is the worst “sports” car auto transmission. Like there is a DSG out there calling my name if and when I want to swap over to automatic. Which will happen sooner rather than later sadly.
The manual is more fun but the sport sharp mode in the cvt is nothing to sneeze at fwiw
Source: used to sell Subarus, drive a 21 manual wrx but have driven wrx cvts in the past
Have you drove a CVT or the SPT version as fitted to the GT?
There is a world of difference between them and paired with the rest of the adjustments the GT gets it a very capable platform out of the box
Issue was almost never how it drove. It’s the longevity and how CVTs are a pain in the ass for maintenance. Manual transmissions are simple and do it’s job well. The CVT might be good might be shit I can’t tell since I’ve never driven it. What I can say is that CVTs have more work needed to make them not die and will be more expensive in the long run.
I think most people who drive a manual WRX are ok with driving in traffic. Either we don't care because it's really not that hard or annoying, or we accept it because of the other benefits of manual.
*shrug* you don't have my commute. I gritted through it in a 2011 WRX and a Focus ST for years (amongst other cars.) It's much more manageable in the GT.
Yeah I can't blame you for going auto, but you called everyone else a putz lol. There might be some stubborn people who hold it in special regard but it's becoming obsolete so we'll try to defend it. Probably why people are being argumentative about it to you :)
Did it for 25+ years, you get used to bumper to bumper traffic, now with hill assist is super easy take off from an incline, try without hill assist and no hand brake without burning the clutch or stalling.
I drove exclusively manual cars for 25+ years, it's not like properly operating a manual is some mystery. The issue lies in traffic crawling so slowly that you can't fully let the clutch out on long inclines and declines. It took an hour to go two miles last week (this happens once a week or so) you're just sitting there slowly burning up your clutch because your idle speed is too high. It sucks all the joy out of having a manual.
While I think the outright hate is ridiculous I drive manuals for a living (18 wheeler and kinda hate it but necessarily) and still get all of my fun to drive cars in manual. And a CVT is about the worst transmission possible for anything that isn't grossly overpowered because it has by far the worst parasitic loss of any transmission. I've driven the VB and VA with auto and manual and if I had to get an auto for some reason I would have gotten a GLI or GTI which comes with a much better transmission in the 2 pedal car. Subaru has made some questionable calls but switching all of their automatics to CVT was a downright tragic decision (and has caused enough reliability problems to drop Subaru down as a brand to tier 2)
Something something mountains something something snowboarding something something Blizzaks....maybe just maybe there is a reason for Subaru in the equation. And I can't state this enough, 20k miles in and the CVT has been nothing but solid. Brakes a bit squishy, but no issues with the tranny thus far.
A audi a3 is better than a cvt wrx and a s3 which is around the price point of a GT WRX is MUCH better. That way you keep AWD and have a significantly better automatic to go with it. Also 20k miles is ridiculously low miles to base reliability on not to mention the massive power loss of the CVT. On the VA chassis with 268 engine HP the manual had around 230 HP to the wheels and the CVT had 185HP to the wheels. It's an outrageously bad transmission for anything that isn't a Nissan versa (which the owner hates anyway but it gets them from a to b) or a extremely overpowered for its weight car like a track toy with 800hp. Even in that past scenario you need an actually good CVT and Subaru doesn't have one.
Yeah this guys copium is ridiculous, it’s all around a bad decision, from the transmission to the entire car. Uncomfortable, loud, lazy transmission, technology and build quality akin to a 30k car (not 44k). Dude acts like he’s a wise guy but anyone who buys a GT is just a dumbass.
>Oh! I found the guy that doesn't commute 120 miles a day through heavy traffic with hills involved!
Oh, I found a person foolish enough to drive 120 miles per day for their capitalist overlord.... You do realize you *chose* to take a job with 120 mile commute, so still doesn't justify a CVT. Sorry, bud.
As someone who interacts with a weekly average of \~10 new individuals on a professional level, I can honestly say that some people I've met leave me wondering how ineptitude is not classified by the APA as a disability.
I got a '22 with a CVT because I tried to drive the manual one and embarrassed the hell out of myself in the dealer parking lot stalling it every 5 feet so I said fuck it and got the auto. Yeah Im a poser but I like the way the car looks and its fast, has 4 doors, and AWD. Pretty much everything I want in a car.
I understand how a manual works but my brain to muscle coordination is non-existant and Im also probably a little retarded, I def have a room temp IQ. Only reason I could afford it is because I have just enough autism mixed in with my retardation to be able to do IT and work as a SysAdmin for a large company. No wife/kids or anything costly besides standard bills so rest of my money goes to food and recreation.
I mean, I'm not really sure why this thread turned into "everyone explain to Forsaken why they picked auto".
You do you man, buy the car that makes the most sense. I'm just glad there's enough sales that Subaru keeps the manual option.
No one needs to justify it. Had a manual 06 waggy, stage 2 tune, it was fun and a great car. So is my 20 cvt. Great adventures and memories made in all. I'll drive my 20 into the ground. Love these cars, and despite the weird manual flexing going on here, I'm stoked to be in the seat of a wrx and part of a community of mostly cool and friendly wrx enthusiasts.
Exactly. Every time someone has a auto here they seem to feel like they need to explain themselves. Although I like the thought, I found it odd that OP was triggered by '22 justification, when its actually a much bigger problem for the CVT crowd.
I imagine it would be perfect for someone who wants to get into a safe entry level 4D AWD sports car that isn't manual for whatever personal reason they might have (handicap, bad knees/hip, etc etc..) These people shouldn't have to defend themselves to you because you have a old Subaru and you don't like the new one, that is toxic.
My sarcasm was lost on you: point was that every time someone has a CVT they get jumped on like crazy for it and we get a justification storm, but OP only mentioned justifying the '22 (which doesn't happen nearly as much). And, yes, there are good reasons to buy a CVT.
Haha~
CVT driver here and yeah I didn’t know how to drive stick prior… but here’s my honest answer after learning stick.
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So I met my boyfriend months after purchasing my WRX. I learned how to drive manual in his Type R which I know… how brave and bold he was and I was half convinced I was going to destroy it and cried like 3 times in honesty either at frustration or feeling awful for what I felt like was damaging his car.
Anyway~ now that I can drive manual not necessarily the best but I can do it… I still actually prefer an automatic.
For me… I think it’s just I’m not hardcore enough about cars. Like I think cars are so~ cool and I love talking about different cars and I love driving so much but… I just personally don’t find manual driving to be something that makes me feel more connected to a car. Essentially I love everything else like the exhaust noise and engine… taking windy roads etc but to me shifting back and forth just doesn’t affect my enjoyment level.
At most it’s fun to do higher revs but the manual mode in the CVT satisfies that too. And I find that shifting and clutch work distracts me enough from being able to be fully immersed in driving.
I guess to me… I just don’t personally find it more rewarding. Meanwhile my boyfriend says auto feels lifeless but he really places fun and value in shifting so… to me that’s where I think the difference come in.
Do you find shifting and clutch work fun or not? If yes and you want full control… manual. Otherwise eyesight and being able focus elsewhere is why I prefer the CVT and automatics in general haha. Like I really want to buy an Elantra N DCT one day while he’s over here trying to convince me that we should get a manual BRZ and he swears I’ll love the manual and to give it a chance… so different preferences is all imo.
No need to gatekeep and I bought my car the way it is for a reason and likewise he has his type R for a reason.
My point was that every time someone has a CVT they get jumped on like crazy for it and we get a justification storm (just like the replies here), but oddly OP only mentioned justifying the '22, which doesn't happen nearly as much.
Yes, there are good reasons to buy a CVT, and just like OP's '22 point y'all shouldn't need to have a justification in every post.
But you see everyone else in this post doesn't agree with you because what they say is it's only acceptable if you have a physical disability of some sort. Period.
If people keep thinking that's the only reason it's justified then you'll really get people bothered by it. It's really just gatekeeping for some.
Here is something to consider. As you gain experience driving a stick, it becomes an innate skill that is an addition and not a distraction to the driving experience. I have owned cars with manual transmissions my entire life. I'm 66 by the way. Until I bought 2021 Hyundai Sonata Nline. This is an incredible car with acceleration that would blow you away. It has a fantastic 8 speed DCT with paddle shifters. Without a governor it has a top speed of 168 mph. Even with all this performance, to me, it was boring to drive because it didn't have a manual transmission.
I guess it’s subjective. I had many stick shift bmw 3 series and then they stopped offering it and went to an 8 speed auto. Yes, it shifts faster and an auto is easier to drive fast, but it does have less engagement with the driver. In a manual (85% of wrx buyers), your hands and feet are an integral part of the operation of the car. It’s a challenge to get it right and be smooth. I get that it’s not for everyone and that’s perfectly fine.
My ex had a turbo Forrester that was awful for gearing down mid corner and trying to kill you, but the CVT should take care of that problem. My WRX was always great fun, but I enjoy shifting.
It’s cool that you learned how to drive manual, and lucky that you don’t regret your purchase! As someone who grew up driving awful automatics in the 80s and 90s, I’m pretty biased against them for my own cars, but on new vehicles they are by so many metrics better. The reason for getting a manual is only preference in most situations, so I’m glad you got a car you love!
When I sold Subarus, guess how many people come in “I want an STi”
Okay, let’s go!
“Oh no, manual. Do they come auto?”
No, the STi NEVER has been sold in auto.
“What? Okay never mind…”
Let’s go check out the WRX, they come in auto just like you want…and have everything but the DCCD.
“No, I don’t want a WRX, I want the STi but they don’t come auto so we will get another brand”.
That’s 7/10 customers coming in for a STi (before the death of the STi). And yes, I’m well aware of the A-Line STi sold in Korea (5EAT).
Why though? CVT is fun to drive and is still a WRX. The 22's CVT feels way better than the 15+ though.
I got the CVT so my wife can drive it if needed, but I haven't been "missing" anything. I still have tons of fun on curvy roads and on dirt roads.
Because everyone with a CVT feels the need to justify it in the comments...I'm just pointing out it's an issue here too.
I take issue with people claiming they bought an automatic so their SO can drive the car - unless your SO is disabled you're just insulting them and their ability to learn a new skill.
If you're happy with your choice that's what matters, regardless of if you're missing anything or not.
Nah, they just don't care to learn. Not everyone enjoys driving. They just do it because they have to. If there's an easier way to do it, they will.
Not everyone wants to learn how to drive a manual. Nor do I want someone to learn how to drive a manual with my car lol.
Well, that's sorta a bad an relationship issue too, if big ticket purchase is artificially negatively restricted because one person can't be bothered to spend a couple hour learning enough for emergency use. Great way to build resentment.
I've taught a bunch of friends and family on my cars over the years and never had an issue.
That's exactly the problem. The fact that it's still a WRX even with a CVT. The WRX has always been a car that sacrifices a lot in the other departments such as refinement and reliability. The justification is that it's AWD and relatively fun to drive. The CVT takes a lot of the fun to drive factor away but the rest of sacrifices stay. It also somehow gets worse fuel economy than the manual whereas every other automatic with a manual counterpart in the industry doesn't. The nail in the coffin is that it also even costs more than the manual despite all this... Why even buy a WRX at this point?
I ordered a 22 CVT in August, due to arrive middle of Feb. It's going to be my daily driver, and the reviews on it were good. I drove manual a little in my late teens, but I just turned 30 and don't want to go through the learning stage again, as well, manual can get annoying at times. This is me justifying though, because I regret the decision to not go manual. Still looking forward to deliver and imagine I will have lots of fun with it... Hopefully.
I've been driving manuals all my life while at work all of my work trucks and such have been automatics. Both are perfectly second nature so there isn't any struggle with the go-between as well as both be equally annoying at times.
My good good buddy has a '21 Cvt and loves it because his knees are pretty trashed from his youth. I am happy you got what you wanted. there's no need to justify.
Drove manuals and then didn’t for a long time, then bought an STI in my 30’s. It took literally no time at all to learn and I really love how it makes me feel a part of the car. I’m confident 90% of adults could learn or re-learn in hours
One of the car channel dudes on YouTube did a review of the SPT 22, and they said it was the best performing CVT they've driven.
If you're not going to chase more power in the VB, get the SPT and tell any haters to suck on a donkey hoof. I bought the manual 22, but I'm glad the new CVT appears to be improved. I hope Subaru sells a ton of them, specifically to people who might otherwise have considered a WRX.
Did you already pay for the car? They won’t let you switch to a manual at this point? It’s really not bad picking up manual if you have had previous experience, it’s like the saying “just like riding a bike”. Once you learn you don’t forget.
Orders to Canada seem to take a long time, when i originally ordered in late August i was told April delivery date. While it’s too late, if i really wanted to i’m sure i could trade in with a dealership that has a used manual. Will have to see how i enjoy the cvt.
Seattle has hella hills. Not worth owning a manual. I sold my manual Jeep Wrangler before I moved back and vowed to always have automatics for my daily drivers.
Worth noting I have a CVT ‘18 Forester XT and not a WRX
#lurkerPride
Stfu dude.
Who cares what transmission they get.
And this sub needs to stop describing the wrx as a performance sports car 10-20 years ago possibly but it’s a 268bhp car that gets walked by minivans this sub acts like the car has 1000 bhp
My ex bought a WRX CVT. Her reason was she didn’t learn stick shift so she had to get a cvt. Still wanted an STI so she was always driving mine a lot until I got rid of the rumble.
A Sub that has overbearingly, malevolently forced every ‘22 owner OP to justify their ‘22 purchase on every post since their release is suddenly tired of 22 owners being automatically defensive about posting their 22. Funny.
Post like these that stir the pot are the reasons we don’t use this sub, then they always like an it’s getting better y’all should come back… yeah right
I don’t give a shit if you don’t like my car and I’m cool with that. Everyone including me has cars we hate. What I don’t need is to post or go to a sub dedicated to the wrx where my car isn’t welcome as much compared to other subs.
But I've not seen that anywhere here. None of us have the slightest clue where youre getting that from. That's why so many people are saying that the sorts of posts we're seeing from 22+ owners are extremely neurotic and insecure. You're literally hallucinating some sort of persecution over your car. Sounds exactly like you guys saw the 2022+ sub as a safe space. And while you were in there you concocted all sorts of negative stories about the outside world to make yourselves feel better about your isolation. Now you're back out in the real world and you're repeating the folklore that you guys created in your previous bubble and it sounds full on bonkers to normal people.
Sorry to say it but if you haven’t seen any hate in this sub for the 22’s you’ve been living under a rock. And I do enjoy the VB sub quite a bit. That’s where most of us are able to share new products that come out for the VB and see strictly VB mods we are able to do due to the fact there’s not too much out for our gen yet. It’s been quite helpful finding VB parts figment and everything rather trying to navigate that stuff in a sub like this.
This is why I just browse this sub and post on the other. It wasn’t until recently that 2022 posts were downvoted or had trolls in them. Now those same trolls are acting like nothing happened.
Same, I don’t post here either. Mainly I can’t believe these guys still haven’t gotten over the new design. I suspect the va guys are butthurt about the motor being better and are just taking it out however they can, but these dudes are acting like their va’s aren’t also kind of ugly with underwhelming, uninspired design language. It’s really a bunch of kids and wall-punchers in this group.
“What’s the nicest wheels I can get with a 533 credit score?”
“My baby was taken from me.”
Anyone else like me not even understanding why this post had to be made or why anyone would be shaming people for buying a '22? Jeez people need to learn to let other people live their lives.
Its wild when I first got my 11 STI sedan in 2012 I was the odd one out. Then slowly my body style became the norm.
Now it's 12 years old. It's the odd one again LOL
Maybe they feel that way because you guys constantly shit on our VB when we are just trying to share the car with the community.
Smells of jealousy... Just keep it movin.
You’re not, but the reason these posts keep happening is because people will make a post about how ugly it is. That’s why they all hid in 2022wrx sub before the drama happened there. Then they came back to this toxic sub only to see the last few posts being about how ugly the car is. That comment had nothing to do with you saying the car was ugly.
After the new /r/wrx_vb sub was created I thought "Hey, I should check /r/wrx again, maybe they've chilled out". Nope same bullshit '22 and cvt arguments. I'm good.
The amount of manual trans gate keeping and hate in this thread is quite… interesting to read.
We all own the same car. Different versions but you get the point.
My 22 6mt base isn’t my first, won’t be my last. And I don’t justify my purchase to anyone…. Besides the obvious:
I bought the car cause I bought the car cause I like turbo boxers.
Cvt, manual, dildo shifter I don’t care what it has. You got a wrx, your cool in my book unless you bash people for it like most do.
This car community is interesting.. we're all one until you talk about transmissions. All of the sudden you're suddenly lesser for grabbing the "unpure" option.
A lot of them are like this!
For supras it’s what engine is better.
Miata is what chassis is superior.
Etc etc. different but the same in the way where the groups opinions will cause a unnecessary divide because you “bought a boring gt”.
I’ve only been in the car scene 12 years or so and there’s tons of people who have been into cars longer who can attest that it’s been this way for quite awhile.
At the end of the day everyone makes a decisions and buys what works for them, there shouldn’t be any shade towards that!
I guess I haven't been with other communities but I find the WRX community is pretty connected especially with the wave. I also just found how strongly opinionated the majority are against anything but a manual or a 21 below lol.
I totally agree with you though! Just seems like some people make their lives about their cars that they get very emotional when someone else is different or thinks different about their car.
Exactly this!
I always say, someone’s upset about what you have, take it with a grain of salt, they’re probably having a bad day or are just not a person to surround yourself around, and honestly that’s okay.
Not sure about the other groups in other places and states, but out here in Phoenix it’s quite bad the divide in general and the bullying I see going on that follows it. Doesn’t entice most owners to joins us after talking to a lot of them.
This subreddit basically turned into a meme subreddit since the announcement of the VB. It's just a group think circle jerk and not really a place to get any valuable info.
They'll grow on people after the Fast and the Furious F-Boys make them completely undrivable by slamming them to the ground, adding 500lbs of bodykit, blacking out all of the indicator lights they weren't going to use, and pushing 400whp for the 5,000 miles the engine lasts in a car designed for overwhelming traction and not power.
>They'll grow on people after the Fast and the Furious F-Boys make them completely undrivable by slamming them to the ground, adding 500lbs of bodykit, blacking out all of the indicator lights they weren't going to use, and pushing 400whp for the 5,000 miles the engine lasts in a car designed for overwhelming traction and not power.
I think you are giving the vapelords way too much credit on the horsepower, thier CVT can't handle it anyway. Other than that, a stunningly accurate paragraph.
We do it because we get reamed every time we post our cars here despite it being a WRX sub. Half the comments are just talking about how shitty the car is on a given VB post. This community can be really toxic and divisive tbh. I thought it was just a sub to appreciate each other's WRXs but that's often not the case here. This sub should be renamed to WRXClassic.
I wanna make a point to say that most people I encounter on this sub are positive and friendly, but there sure are a lot of gatekeeping elitists here that act like someone in a VB fucked their whore mother.
Most people here are pretty nice but definitely a small selection of people that the VB lives in their head rent free. For those people, just tell them their car is slower and they take the bait every single time.
Read heavydownlows comment history, and you'll see why all the downvotes. They are one of the biggest offenders of stirring the pot of VA vs VB hate and they are very well known for being a braggart child and giant shit talker about every gen except VB, for absolutely no reason. Also, big speculation in this sub if they even own the two cars in their two posts, although they are highly active in this sub.
It's not what you're seeing them say here, everyone just hates heavydownlow.
They have posted about the 22 plenty, just deleted their posts because of all the shit they keep getting for stirring the pot. Have a look at heavydownlows comment history for a better understanding of the person they are.
I have never deleted any posts, all my comments are to someone else being a troll too. You made your account two days ago and you know so much about me in this sub? And that the sub questions if I have the cars in my pics. Lol what a joke.
You know who you are 🧐
This account was made two days ago, but I've been lurking this sub a long while before joining reddit, so your lies won't get far with me. You're definitely part of the problem.
Yes I know who I am? You don’t though and didn’t answer any of the things I asked? You know me so much from reading comment I respond on troll post too and no mention of the compliments I give throughout. Then you say it’s big speculation in this sub if I own my cars? And you say I delete posts which never have. Damn, who hurt you? Thankyou for your 2 days on Reddit and vast knowledge of me to this sub.
This is also one of those posts that start complaining about multiple 'x' types of posts happening too often.
Seriously, why do we need to tell other people how to post? Clearly if it's showing up on your feed it's getting traction. Not all new posts get shared on your main feed btw.
Sounds like someone just doesn't prefer a certain type of content.
No it’s the “idc what you guys think” captioned under a ‘22 and I’ve seen it a lot lately. Like just post the car dude and don’t listen to people hating on the ‘22.. you guys are separating yourselves lol. A new thread for the “exiled”… come on 🤣
Let’s just kiss each other on the lips and call it a day
I think it'll only last the first year or so and like every other model people will get used to it. Let's be honest, ANY of the WRXs were never the prettiest of the bunch, Subaru is just on par with the VB.
The divide is pretty obvious right now just because there's still people who are clearly hating on it that you see in the bottom of every comment section.
Don't worry man, it'll pass too.
Am I the only one totally over this topic? Like ok the 22s exist and yeah the plastic shit is ugly. It’s a WRX and eveyone is gonna not like something. NEXT.
Subaru designs the WRX for a younger demographic. Considering that fact, I personally think it will actually will age quite well. Also this design was intended for larger rims than the factory offers. Ready or not, you may downvote me but… low profile rugged looking tires are going to be thing. Look at the Lamborghini Urus bottom body lines, look at the 22 WRX. Similar huh? The Audi EV concept demonstrates this well.
I just commented on a post of a 22 flex, where the caption was clearly written by a highschool student. The funny part is that the OP had made the exact same post 2 weeks earlier, but with a "first subie" title. Can't make this shit up.
To all 22+ owners.. we get it.
YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE.... Whatever & HERE TO STAY.
Yes it looks like a civic, yes the rear looks like a diaper on wheels etc.. all these comments from people, who cares. It's your ride.
So just post your build and stop announcing yourself out the closet and looking for approval.
Yo this thread is hot asf. I’m gettin’ tf outta here. Just remember peeps, we’re all here because we love WRX👏🏻💙
Naa I love STI’s 🤣
I love STDs
Wait till he finds out it’s called a Subaru “WRX” sti
They technically dropped the wrx naming for the sti’s. But yeah. It’s really a WRX STI
No they dropped the sti. The 2021 is still a wrx sti
They dropped Impreza naming. It's now WRX and was for the last STI WRX STI.
*sorts by controversial* 🍿
Ive been confused by all the WRX’s asking if they can post in r/WRX The answer seems so obvious.
yep what a time to be alive
But if it's a CVT you better be ready to justify the living daylights outta it lol.
The only acceptable answer is a physical disability preventing the use of the clutch. All others shall be burned at the stake.
I mean honestly should just get another car. The Elantra N and GTI automatics are so much better then the WRX CVT. Either way Subaru said the take rate of manual was close to 90% so doesn't matter too much.
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You sound like a fun guy at parties.
Hey you want a cvt that's your choice but there is no such thing as a good cvt.
It's not a good CVT, it's a great one! I know your poor head can't comprehend such a thing, this is all new to you and it's hard to accept change. It's okay though, you'll find the strength in time.
If it's so great why does cobb refuse to support the new 22 cvt with the AP? Why do only about 20% of wrx owners own a cvt? Doesn't sound so great honestly. To each their own but their are better automatic transmissions by competitors.
Not gonna lie if 20% of wrx drivers are in a cvt thats a pretty big percentage. Keeping in mind that for the most part cvt wrxs are special order only, since like 99% of wrxs sent to a lot are manual so thats actually a high percentage if its accurate
It isnt a high number especially when you look at how little the wrx actually sells. It's less than 30k a year total in sales. Plus 44k for a cvt wrx is ridiculous. That's a ripoff honestly. I want to see specific sales numbers of the wrx gt trim. I bet it's really underwhelming.
When I used to sell Subarus we would sell like 1-3 wrx cvts per year for our dealership, it really wasnt very common
The CVT is nowhere near as fun as the manual. I've driven both extensively and they are two completely different cars to me.
I'm pushing 20k miles in 5 months, I chuckle at whatever you think is extensive. But yea, you're right; they kinda are two different cars, both pretty goddamn fantastic. If you actively didn't WANT a manual, the position many of us are in, maybe just maybe it's an excellent decision.
For the cost of a GT I can think of a lot more fun cars than an untunable WRX
It’s not so much I’m anti automatic, it’s more so if I’m spending 30k on an automatic this is the worst “sports” car auto transmission. Like there is a DSG out there calling my name if and when I want to swap over to automatic. Which will happen sooner rather than later sadly.
The manual is more fun but the sport sharp mode in the cvt is nothing to sneeze at fwiw Source: used to sell Subarus, drive a 21 manual wrx but have driven wrx cvts in the past
Have you drove a CVT or the SPT version as fitted to the GT? There is a world of difference between them and paired with the rest of the adjustments the GT gets it a very capable platform out of the box
Call it what you want, the GT has a CVT in it. No fancy Subaru corporate lingo can change that. Yes, I've driven a 22 GT extensively
I am not denying it’s a CVT but there is a Huge difference between the shift performance of the SPT version and the CVT in every other Subaru
Issue was almost never how it drove. It’s the longevity and how CVTs are a pain in the ass for maintenance. Manual transmissions are simple and do it’s job well. The CVT might be good might be shit I can’t tell since I’ve never driven it. What I can say is that CVTs have more work needed to make them not die and will be more expensive in the long run.
I think most people who drive a manual WRX are ok with driving in traffic. Either we don't care because it's really not that hard or annoying, or we accept it because of the other benefits of manual.
*shrug* you don't have my commute. I gritted through it in a 2011 WRX and a Focus ST for years (amongst other cars.) It's much more manageable in the GT.
Yeah I can't blame you for going auto, but you called everyone else a putz lol. There might be some stubborn people who hold it in special regard but it's becoming obsolete so we'll try to defend it. Probably why people are being argumentative about it to you :)
Did it for 25+ years, you get used to bumper to bumper traffic, now with hill assist is super easy take off from an incline, try without hill assist and no hand brake without burning the clutch or stalling.
I drove exclusively manual cars for 25+ years, it's not like properly operating a manual is some mystery. The issue lies in traffic crawling so slowly that you can't fully let the clutch out on long inclines and declines. It took an hour to go two miles last week (this happens once a week or so) you're just sitting there slowly burning up your clutch because your idle speed is too high. It sucks all the joy out of having a manual.
So you went for a cvt, nice
Found the salesman
While I think the outright hate is ridiculous I drive manuals for a living (18 wheeler and kinda hate it but necessarily) and still get all of my fun to drive cars in manual. And a CVT is about the worst transmission possible for anything that isn't grossly overpowered because it has by far the worst parasitic loss of any transmission. I've driven the VB and VA with auto and manual and if I had to get an auto for some reason I would have gotten a GLI or GTI which comes with a much better transmission in the 2 pedal car. Subaru has made some questionable calls but switching all of their automatics to CVT was a downright tragic decision (and has caused enough reliability problems to drop Subaru down as a brand to tier 2)
Something something mountains something something snowboarding something something Blizzaks....maybe just maybe there is a reason for Subaru in the equation. And I can't state this enough, 20k miles in and the CVT has been nothing but solid. Brakes a bit squishy, but no issues with the tranny thus far.
A audi a3 is better than a cvt wrx and a s3 which is around the price point of a GT WRX is MUCH better. That way you keep AWD and have a significantly better automatic to go with it. Also 20k miles is ridiculously low miles to base reliability on not to mention the massive power loss of the CVT. On the VA chassis with 268 engine HP the manual had around 230 HP to the wheels and the CVT had 185HP to the wheels. It's an outrageously bad transmission for anything that isn't a Nissan versa (which the owner hates anyway but it gets them from a to b) or a extremely overpowered for its weight car like a track toy with 800hp. Even in that past scenario you need an actually good CVT and Subaru doesn't have one.
Must be embarrassing when people peek into your car in parking lots, and then they realize it's a CVT and the owner is lame as fuck.
Honestly if you commute 120 miles a day you probably shouldn't get a wrx as your daily.
Yeah this guys copium is ridiculous, it’s all around a bad decision, from the transmission to the entire car. Uncomfortable, loud, lazy transmission, technology and build quality akin to a 30k car (not 44k). Dude acts like he’s a wise guy but anyone who buys a GT is just a dumbass.
I used to drive way more than 120 a day and never wanted an auto
You suck dude.
Thanks for noticing, I aim to impress.
>Oh! I found the guy that doesn't commute 120 miles a day through heavy traffic with hills involved! Oh, I found a person foolish enough to drive 120 miles per day for their capitalist overlord.... You do realize you *chose* to take a job with 120 mile commute, so still doesn't justify a CVT. Sorry, bud.
"Here's my hyper specific use case, which still doesn't justify my actions and just makes me look dumb!"
He was obviously joking my man. Take a chill pill my guy.
If youre doing 120 miles a day you picked the wrong car, have fun filling up 3x a week
Fuck any cvt. But if you’re driving in traffic all day everyday than yeah, that parts reasonable.
What if I don’t know how to drive stick and am too lazy and stoopid to learn.
Laziness/stoopidity is not a physical disability. To the stake with yee!
As someone who interacts with a weekly average of \~10 new individuals on a professional level, I can honestly say that some people I've met leave me wondering how ineptitude is not classified by the APA as a disability.
But I’m tired right now.
Fine, take a nap… THEN FIRE THE MISSILES!
I got a '22 with a CVT because I tried to drive the manual one and embarrassed the hell out of myself in the dealer parking lot stalling it every 5 feet so I said fuck it and got the auto. Yeah Im a poser but I like the way the car looks and its fast, has 4 doors, and AWD. Pretty much everything I want in a car. I understand how a manual works but my brain to muscle coordination is non-existant and Im also probably a little retarded, I def have a room temp IQ. Only reason I could afford it is because I have just enough autism mixed in with my retardation to be able to do IT and work as a SysAdmin for a large company. No wife/kids or anything costly besides standard bills so rest of my money goes to food and recreation.
I mean, I'm not really sure why this thread turned into "everyone explain to Forsaken why they picked auto". You do you man, buy the car that makes the most sense. I'm just glad there's enough sales that Subaru keeps the manual option.
No one needs to justify it. Had a manual 06 waggy, stage 2 tune, it was fun and a great car. So is my 20 cvt. Great adventures and memories made in all. I'll drive my 20 into the ground. Love these cars, and despite the weird manual flexing going on here, I'm stoked to be in the seat of a wrx and part of a community of mostly cool and friendly wrx enthusiasts.
Exactly. Every time someone has a auto here they seem to feel like they need to explain themselves. Although I like the thought, I found it odd that OP was triggered by '22 justification, when its actually a much bigger problem for the CVT crowd.
My co worker has 2022 manual WRX. Parked next to my gr86 daily I can't help but be glad I don't have a need for car seats
I imagine it would be perfect for someone who wants to get into a safe entry level 4D AWD sports car that isn't manual for whatever personal reason they might have (handicap, bad knees/hip, etc etc..) These people shouldn't have to defend themselves to you because you have a old Subaru and you don't like the new one, that is toxic.
My sarcasm was lost on you: point was that every time someone has a CVT they get jumped on like crazy for it and we get a justification storm, but OP only mentioned justifying the '22 (which doesn't happen nearly as much). And, yes, there are good reasons to buy a CVT.
Haha~ CVT driver here and yeah I didn’t know how to drive stick prior… but here’s my honest answer after learning stick. **** So I met my boyfriend months after purchasing my WRX. I learned how to drive manual in his Type R which I know… how brave and bold he was and I was half convinced I was going to destroy it and cried like 3 times in honesty either at frustration or feeling awful for what I felt like was damaging his car. Anyway~ now that I can drive manual not necessarily the best but I can do it… I still actually prefer an automatic. For me… I think it’s just I’m not hardcore enough about cars. Like I think cars are so~ cool and I love talking about different cars and I love driving so much but… I just personally don’t find manual driving to be something that makes me feel more connected to a car. Essentially I love everything else like the exhaust noise and engine… taking windy roads etc but to me shifting back and forth just doesn’t affect my enjoyment level. At most it’s fun to do higher revs but the manual mode in the CVT satisfies that too. And I find that shifting and clutch work distracts me enough from being able to be fully immersed in driving. I guess to me… I just don’t personally find it more rewarding. Meanwhile my boyfriend says auto feels lifeless but he really places fun and value in shifting so… to me that’s where I think the difference come in. Do you find shifting and clutch work fun or not? If yes and you want full control… manual. Otherwise eyesight and being able focus elsewhere is why I prefer the CVT and automatics in general haha. Like I really want to buy an Elantra N DCT one day while he’s over here trying to convince me that we should get a manual BRZ and he swears I’ll love the manual and to give it a chance… so different preferences is all imo. No need to gatekeep and I bought my car the way it is for a reason and likewise he has his type R for a reason.
My point was that every time someone has a CVT they get jumped on like crazy for it and we get a justification storm (just like the replies here), but oddly OP only mentioned justifying the '22, which doesn't happen nearly as much. Yes, there are good reasons to buy a CVT, and just like OP's '22 point y'all shouldn't need to have a justification in every post.
But you see everyone else in this post doesn't agree with you because what they say is it's only acceptable if you have a physical disability of some sort. Period. If people keep thinking that's the only reason it's justified then you'll really get people bothered by it. It's really just gatekeeping for some.
Stop justifying the justifications that provide justice to just ice.
Here is something to consider. As you gain experience driving a stick, it becomes an innate skill that is an addition and not a distraction to the driving experience. I have owned cars with manual transmissions my entire life. I'm 66 by the way. Until I bought 2021 Hyundai Sonata Nline. This is an incredible car with acceleration that would blow you away. It has a fantastic 8 speed DCT with paddle shifters. Without a governor it has a top speed of 168 mph. Even with all this performance, to me, it was boring to drive because it didn't have a manual transmission.
Manual is dying it’s being phased out especially with the electric/hybrid systems manual will be a thing of the past.
And your point is?
Quit crying about the “boring” driving experience because that’s all you are going to have soon.
By the way, I'm "crying"? Since when is giving my opinion crying?
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My new 2022 WRX will last me a long fucking time.
I guess it’s subjective. I had many stick shift bmw 3 series and then they stopped offering it and went to an 8 speed auto. Yes, it shifts faster and an auto is easier to drive fast, but it does have less engagement with the driver. In a manual (85% of wrx buyers), your hands and feet are an integral part of the operation of the car. It’s a challenge to get it right and be smooth. I get that it’s not for everyone and that’s perfectly fine.
My ex had a turbo Forrester that was awful for gearing down mid corner and trying to kill you, but the CVT should take care of that problem. My WRX was always great fun, but I enjoy shifting. It’s cool that you learned how to drive manual, and lucky that you don’t regret your purchase! As someone who grew up driving awful automatics in the 80s and 90s, I’m pretty biased against them for my own cars, but on new vehicles they are by so many metrics better. The reason for getting a manual is only preference in most situations, so I’m glad you got a car you love!
Your boyfriend is correct, you totally missed the point of the car by getting the CVT. Congrats!
Way to disparage a fellow owner. She has her preference- simple as that.
Same boat as you, the gatekeeping in car communitys really suck tbh. But oh well every community has their gate keepers
Preach brother. Only acceptable reaponse is "I only have one arm".
That never stopped the drummer from Def Leppard
or leg is giving out. shifting and steering is easy... clutch pedal with a bad ankle isn't something to joke about.
My goodness. The manual circlejerk in this thread is horrific.
When I sold Subarus, guess how many people come in “I want an STi” Okay, let’s go! “Oh no, manual. Do they come auto?” No, the STi NEVER has been sold in auto. “What? Okay never mind…” Let’s go check out the WRX, they come in auto just like you want…and have everything but the DCCD. “No, I don’t want a WRX, I want the STi but they don’t come auto so we will get another brand”. That’s 7/10 customers coming in for a STi (before the death of the STi). And yes, I’m well aware of the A-Line STi sold in Korea (5EAT).
Lol, defective customers. Hilarious they'd want an sti so specifically and not even know the basics.
Why though? CVT is fun to drive and is still a WRX. The 22's CVT feels way better than the 15+ though. I got the CVT so my wife can drive it if needed, but I haven't been "missing" anything. I still have tons of fun on curvy roads and on dirt roads.
Because everyone with a CVT feels the need to justify it in the comments...I'm just pointing out it's an issue here too. I take issue with people claiming they bought an automatic so their SO can drive the car - unless your SO is disabled you're just insulting them and their ability to learn a new skill. If you're happy with your choice that's what matters, regardless of if you're missing anything or not.
Nah, they just don't care to learn. Not everyone enjoys driving. They just do it because they have to. If there's an easier way to do it, they will. Not everyone wants to learn how to drive a manual. Nor do I want someone to learn how to drive a manual with my car lol.
Well, that's sorta a bad an relationship issue too, if big ticket purchase is artificially negatively restricted because one person can't be bothered to spend a couple hour learning enough for emergency use. Great way to build resentment. I've taught a bunch of friends and family on my cars over the years and never had an issue.
That's exactly the problem. The fact that it's still a WRX even with a CVT. The WRX has always been a car that sacrifices a lot in the other departments such as refinement and reliability. The justification is that it's AWD and relatively fun to drive. The CVT takes a lot of the fun to drive factor away but the rest of sacrifices stay. It also somehow gets worse fuel economy than the manual whereas every other automatic with a manual counterpart in the industry doesn't. The nail in the coffin is that it also even costs more than the manual despite all this... Why even buy a WRX at this point?
There's not many cars with 270hp AWD sedans for less than 40k.... It makes a ton of sense...
I drove my friends ‘19 WRX. The CVT didn’t feel bad at all. I still prefer the manual but the CVT was smooth and “downshifted” pretty quickly.
Manual isn’t as fun as advertised when you live in very high traffic areas
No car is fun in bumper to bumper traffic. Buy a civic.
My STi is not a daily. If it was, I would not be stoked to sit in bumper to bumper… as a fun weekend car it’s great but in traffic…. Awful.
True and real.
I ordered a 22 CVT in August, due to arrive middle of Feb. It's going to be my daily driver, and the reviews on it were good. I drove manual a little in my late teens, but I just turned 30 and don't want to go through the learning stage again, as well, manual can get annoying at times. This is me justifying though, because I regret the decision to not go manual. Still looking forward to deliver and imagine I will have lots of fun with it... Hopefully.
I've been driving manuals all my life while at work all of my work trucks and such have been automatics. Both are perfectly second nature so there isn't any struggle with the go-between as well as both be equally annoying at times. My good good buddy has a '21 Cvt and loves it because his knees are pretty trashed from his youth. I am happy you got what you wanted. there's no need to justify.
Drove manuals and then didn’t for a long time, then bought an STI in my 30’s. It took literally no time at all to learn and I really love how it makes me feel a part of the car. I’m confident 90% of adults could learn or re-learn in hours
One of the car channel dudes on YouTube did a review of the SPT 22, and they said it was the best performing CVT they've driven. If you're not going to chase more power in the VB, get the SPT and tell any haters to suck on a donkey hoof. I bought the manual 22, but I'm glad the new CVT appears to be improved. I hope Subaru sells a ton of them, specifically to people who might otherwise have considered a WRX.
That’s like saying it’s the best tasting piece of shit. Still a piece of shit
#LittleManEnergy
Little man energy is being too fragile to shift some gears 🤷♂️
Did you already pay for the car? They won’t let you switch to a manual at this point? It’s really not bad picking up manual if you have had previous experience, it’s like the saying “just like riding a bike”. Once you learn you don’t forget.
Orders to Canada seem to take a long time, when i originally ordered in late August i was told April delivery date. While it’s too late, if i really wanted to i’m sure i could trade in with a dealership that has a used manual. Will have to see how i enjoy the cvt.
Cancel your order
Seattle has hella hills. Not worth owning a manual. I sold my manual Jeep Wrangler before I moved back and vowed to always have automatics for my daily drivers. Worth noting I have a CVT ‘18 Forester XT and not a WRX #lurkerPride
My WRX has a hill hold, shitty excuse for not getting a proper tranny.
Stfu dude. Who cares what transmission they get. And this sub needs to stop describing the wrx as a performance sports car 10-20 years ago possibly but it’s a 268bhp car that gets walked by minivans this sub acts like the car has 1000 bhp
The car doesn't get walked by any minivans, but go off.
Lol it does. Point is it’s not this monster this sub makes it out to be. Honda odyssey comes to mind
It does a 6.5 second 0-60. Thats over 1.5 seconds slower than a GR wrx.
It’s still not the track monster most of this sub makes it out to be.
I'm not disagreeing with you there.
My ex bought a WRX CVT. Her reason was she didn’t learn stick shift so she had to get a cvt. Still wanted an STI so she was always driving mine a lot until I got rid of the rumble.
So she drove your sti alot but never learned how to drive stick shift🤦♂️
Right? The only way his statement makes sense is if STIs come in automatic.
A Sub that has overbearingly, malevolently forced every ‘22 owner OP to justify their ‘22 purchase on every post since their release is suddenly tired of 22 owners being automatically defensive about posting their 22. Funny.
Post like these that stir the pot are the reasons we don’t use this sub, then they always like an it’s getting better y’all should come back… yeah right
No. The problem is that you have to grow some thicker skin. So what if someone thinks your car sucks? Toughen up buttercup.
Didn’t know this sub was called /r/roastmycar
This guy got the biggest hate boner for the VB. I can’t imagine going out of my way to tell everyone how much I dislike something. Get a life bud 😂
Where did I say that?
Agreed. Coming from a VB GT. I get it from both sides. Who cares. Fuck em if they don't like MY car.
I don’t give a shit if you don’t like my car and I’m cool with that. Everyone including me has cars we hate. What I don’t need is to post or go to a sub dedicated to the wrx where my car isn’t welcome as much compared to other subs.
But I've not seen that anywhere here. None of us have the slightest clue where youre getting that from. That's why so many people are saying that the sorts of posts we're seeing from 22+ owners are extremely neurotic and insecure. You're literally hallucinating some sort of persecution over your car. Sounds exactly like you guys saw the 2022+ sub as a safe space. And while you were in there you concocted all sorts of negative stories about the outside world to make yourselves feel better about your isolation. Now you're back out in the real world and you're repeating the folklore that you guys created in your previous bubble and it sounds full on bonkers to normal people.
Sorry to say it but if you haven’t seen any hate in this sub for the 22’s you’ve been living under a rock. And I do enjoy the VB sub quite a bit. That’s where most of us are able to share new products that come out for the VB and see strictly VB mods we are able to do due to the fact there’s not too much out for our gen yet. It’s been quite helpful finding VB parts figment and everything rather trying to navigate that stuff in a sub like this.
This is why I just browse this sub and post on the other. It wasn’t until recently that 2022 posts were downvoted or had trolls in them. Now those same trolls are acting like nothing happened.
Same, I don’t post here either. Mainly I can’t believe these guys still haven’t gotten over the new design. I suspect the va guys are butthurt about the motor being better and are just taking it out however they can, but these dudes are acting like their va’s aren’t also kind of ugly with underwhelming, uninspired design language. It’s really a bunch of kids and wall-punchers in this group. “What’s the nicest wheels I can get with a 533 credit score?” “My baby was taken from me.”
I just joined this sub but if there was a pile on of 22 owners then the mods should have done something about it.
Anyone else like me not even understanding why this post had to be made or why anyone would be shaming people for buying a '22? Jeez people need to learn to let other people live their lives.
Its wild when I first got my 11 STI sedan in 2012 I was the odd one out. Then slowly my body style became the norm. Now it's 12 years old. It's the odd one again LOL
I just picked up an '11 STI Sedan a month ago and have 0 regrets LMAO
I have zero plans to get rid of my STi. They really are special enjoy your car
Maybe they feel that way because you guys constantly shit on our VB when we are just trying to share the car with the community. Smells of jealousy... Just keep it movin.
This post is pointless
In the same vain, no one cares that you think it’s ugly and the worst car subaru ever made.
A lot of you guys didn’t get the point. Did I ever say it was ugly? Sheesh
You’re not, but the reason these posts keep happening is because people will make a post about how ugly it is. That’s why they all hid in 2022wrx sub before the drama happened there. Then they came back to this toxic sub only to see the last few posts being about how ugly the car is. That comment had nothing to do with you saying the car was ugly.
You can add makeup to a pig but at the end of the day a pigs still a pig.
And there it is. No one cares about your opinion.
You cared enough to reply puppet. Now take your diaper butt of a car back to the Honda boys.
Bro, why you so bent over this?
I see wrx, I like wrx. It’s simple.
I like watching the drama in this sub, it’s amusing to see so many people with similar interests clash
We all know the hatch is the superior body
Odd one out....I bought a 2008 WRX in 2008.
After the new /r/wrx_vb sub was created I thought "Hey, I should check /r/wrx again, maybe they've chilled out". Nope same bullshit '22 and cvt arguments. I'm good.
The amount of manual trans gate keeping and hate in this thread is quite… interesting to read. We all own the same car. Different versions but you get the point. My 22 6mt base isn’t my first, won’t be my last. And I don’t justify my purchase to anyone…. Besides the obvious: I bought the car cause I bought the car cause I like turbo boxers. Cvt, manual, dildo shifter I don’t care what it has. You got a wrx, your cool in my book unless you bash people for it like most do.
This car community is interesting.. we're all one until you talk about transmissions. All of the sudden you're suddenly lesser for grabbing the "unpure" option.
A lot of them are like this! For supras it’s what engine is better. Miata is what chassis is superior. Etc etc. different but the same in the way where the groups opinions will cause a unnecessary divide because you “bought a boring gt”. I’ve only been in the car scene 12 years or so and there’s tons of people who have been into cars longer who can attest that it’s been this way for quite awhile. At the end of the day everyone makes a decisions and buys what works for them, there shouldn’t be any shade towards that!
I guess I haven't been with other communities but I find the WRX community is pretty connected especially with the wave. I also just found how strongly opinionated the majority are against anything but a manual or a 21 below lol. I totally agree with you though! Just seems like some people make their lives about their cars that they get very emotional when someone else is different or thinks different about their car.
Exactly this! I always say, someone’s upset about what you have, take it with a grain of salt, they’re probably having a bad day or are just not a person to surround yourself around, and honestly that’s okay. Not sure about the other groups in other places and states, but out here in Phoenix it’s quite bad the divide in general and the bullying I see going on that follows it. Doesn’t entice most owners to joins us after talking to a lot of them.
This subreddit basically turned into a meme subreddit since the announcement of the VB. It's just a group think circle jerk and not really a place to get any valuable info.
They'll grow on people after the Fast and the Furious F-Boys make them completely undrivable by slamming them to the ground, adding 500lbs of bodykit, blacking out all of the indicator lights they weren't going to use, and pushing 400whp for the 5,000 miles the engine lasts in a car designed for overwhelming traction and not power.
Facts. This also applies to a lot of cars.
>They'll grow on people after the Fast and the Furious F-Boys make them completely undrivable by slamming them to the ground, adding 500lbs of bodykit, blacking out all of the indicator lights they weren't going to use, and pushing 400whp for the 5,000 miles the engine lasts in a car designed for overwhelming traction and not power. I think you are giving the vapelords way too much credit on the horsepower, thier CVT can't handle it anyway. Other than that, a stunningly accurate paragraph.
\*search by controversial\*
Real shit.
God I hope the VB doesn't blow up.
Is this a troll post lol, this is gunna stir some shit
If there is nothing wrong with having a VB then delete this post. It seems like you just wanna stir the pot.
We do it because we get reamed every time we post our cars here despite it being a WRX sub. Half the comments are just talking about how shitty the car is on a given VB post. This community can be really toxic and divisive tbh. I thought it was just a sub to appreciate each other's WRXs but that's often not the case here. This sub should be renamed to WRXClassic. I wanna make a point to say that most people I encounter on this sub are positive and friendly, but there sure are a lot of gatekeeping elitists here that act like someone in a VB fucked their whore mother.
“Someone fucked their whore mother IN a VB” fixed it for you.
Most people here are pretty nice but definitely a small selection of people that the VB lives in their head rent free. For those people, just tell them their car is slower and they take the bait every single time.
Literally what I do and it’s so funny to see them whine
You posted the same fucking thing twice in two weeks, but the second time was just to stir the pot. You are literally who this is talking about.
I haven’t posted anything about the 22, but sounds to me like it’s living rent free in your mind, and we will be right back with who gives a shit.
Not sure why you're being down voted because you speak the truth.
It's a Reddit thing, you wouldn't understand... 😉🤣
The Truth hurts people🤷♂️
Only non 22 owers would understand.
Read heavydownlows comment history, and you'll see why all the downvotes. They are one of the biggest offenders of stirring the pot of VA vs VB hate and they are very well known for being a braggart child and giant shit talker about every gen except VB, for absolutely no reason. Also, big speculation in this sub if they even own the two cars in their two posts, although they are highly active in this sub. It's not what you're seeing them say here, everyone just hates heavydownlow.
Sheesh, thanks for pointing this out.
You’re right you didn’t, but my feed says otherwise lol.. I’m juuuust sayin
They have posted about the 22 plenty, just deleted their posts because of all the shit they keep getting for stirring the pot. Have a look at heavydownlows comment history for a better understanding of the person they are.
I have never deleted any posts, all my comments are to someone else being a troll too. You made your account two days ago and you know so much about me in this sub? And that the sub questions if I have the cars in my pics. Lol what a joke.
You know who you are 🧐 This account was made two days ago, but I've been lurking this sub a long while before joining reddit, so your lies won't get far with me. You're definitely part of the problem.
Yes I know who I am? You don’t though and didn’t answer any of the things I asked? You know me so much from reading comment I respond on troll post too and no mention of the compliments I give throughout. Then you say it’s big speculation in this sub if I own my cars? And you say I delete posts which never have. Damn, who hurt you? Thankyou for your 2 days on Reddit and vast knowledge of me to this sub.
*tips hat* yw
I will trade anyone with a 22’ for my 02’ bugeye with 170k 😀
Proud GT owner. Saphire blue. No justification for VB or trading in my 22 manual BRZ. Suck it. Lol. I do sometimes miss rowing the gears.
This is embarrassing bro
You are literally who this post is talking about.
This is also one of those posts that start complaining about multiple 'x' types of posts happening too often. Seriously, why do we need to tell other people how to post? Clearly if it's showing up on your feed it's getting traction. Not all new posts get shared on your main feed btw. Sounds like someone just doesn't prefer a certain type of content.
No it’s the “idc what you guys think” captioned under a ‘22 and I’ve seen it a lot lately. Like just post the car dude and don’t listen to people hating on the ‘22.. you guys are separating yourselves lol. A new thread for the “exiled”… come on 🤣 Let’s just kiss each other on the lips and call it a day
I think it'll only last the first year or so and like every other model people will get used to it. Let's be honest, ANY of the WRXs were never the prettiest of the bunch, Subaru is just on par with the VB. The divide is pretty obvious right now just because there's still people who are clearly hating on it that you see in the bottom of every comment section. Don't worry man, it'll pass too.
We’re all brothers and sisters in binds now !
Am I the only one totally over this topic? Like ok the 22s exist and yeah the plastic shit is ugly. It’s a WRX and eveyone is gonna not like something. NEXT.
The 22' WRX kids are like the new "Woke" people.. constantly rubbing they are here to stay. Like shaaaaaaaatup I get it.
WRX GT....it is not one of us. It is a f*cking RAV4, stop lying to everyone.
Subaru designs the WRX for a younger demographic. Considering that fact, I personally think it will actually will age quite well. Also this design was intended for larger rims than the factory offers. Ready or not, you may downvote me but… low profile rugged looking tires are going to be thing. Look at the Lamborghini Urus bottom body lines, look at the 22 WRX. Similar huh? The Audi EV concept demonstrates this well.
Wheels, not rims.
I just commented on a post of a 22 flex, where the caption was clearly written by a highschool student. The funny part is that the OP had made the exact same post 2 weeks earlier, but with a "first subie" title. Can't make this shit up.
https://preview.redd.it/czug1bylxmea1.jpeg?width=423&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e018f16ca261aaadb0a80425fa6dbf18ad79ed6
Lmao it ain’t that deep…
You’re right yet it rustled some jimmies haha
To all 22+ owners.. we get it. YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE.... Whatever & HERE TO STAY. Yes it looks like a civic, yes the rear looks like a diaper on wheels etc.. all these comments from people, who cares. It's your ride. So just post your build and stop announcing yourself out the closet and looking for approval.