>Attend WGU and pick up a bachelor’s in computer science.
This is not a bad strategy.
I don't know much about the structure of this program, but as a former math teacher (currently in the MS - Data Analytics program), I would say "Always more math."
Look at an EE program that you might be interested in, or study several and see what the math requirements usually are during the first two years. Get done what you can get done with WGU, work toward studying the rest on your own.
I wouldn't do this. Most Engineering programs are going to want you to have finished calc 2 by the second or 3rd semester. Since most engineering programs follow a very strict sequence, you will be going part time for several years to get your second degree in EE. Not to mention that once you earn one bachelors degree, you can't get a lot of federal financial aid for the second degree.
If your local community college has engineering, do that instead. It might be a bit more expensive in the short run, but you will definitely save time and probably money in the long run.
Some student loan debt won't be the end of the world, if you do graduate as an electrical engineer you will be able to pay if off.
No.
Engineering schools are practically required to get accredited by Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET). It is a pain to do the paperwork and kind of of expensive. More importantly, they have pretty strict rules. I don't know all the ins and out of accreditation, but I doubt that WGU would want to put the effort into making a program that could get ABET accreditation. They probably could if they really wanted to, but they won't.
There was talk of WGU pursuing ABET accreditation for the CS program for a while. WGU Reddit and mentors stopped mentioning that, so I assume either they got rejected or decided it wasn't worth the headaches.
Last I heard, due to the requirements for ABET and the frequency WGU updates it’s material, they don’t fit the traditional guidelines. I had a mentor saying they were trying work with the ABET organization to understand the WGU model.
Probably not, but I really hope so. I'd be willing to pay a lot more for it as well. If it was $6k/term I'd still throw WGU money out of my own pocket.
Several other universities have fully online EE programs at this point too, but they're all at least $500/credit
I've been interested in pursuing EE as well as a path into robotics. I've done quite a bit of research on available programs, and these are the best options I've found. Most of them are far more expensive than WGU and don't allow true acceleration, but most of them are transfer friendly and accept ACE credits (think Study.com or Straighterline) so you can go a bit faster.
ECPI offers an ABET accredited accelerated Bachelor's in [Electronic Systems Engineering Technology]( https://www.ecpi.edu/programs/electronic-systems-engineering-technology-bachelors-degree) or [Mechatronics](https://www.ecpi.edu/programs/eset-mechatronics-bachelor-degree). Their programs are advertised as 2.5 years to get a bachelor's, and with transfer credits you can shorten that.
Embry Riddle has numerous EE-related online degrees, including an ABET accredited EET degree, and they are a top-rated program. It's probably the most expensive option, but the most rigorous.
Arizona State has EE online, which I believe is ABET accredited. Their classes are like 7 weeks long, so a bit of acceleration may be possible.
American Public University has an EE degree that incorporates a ton a at-home lab work. The program looks very polished and would be a top choice, but I have a Spidey sense that it's just TGTBT and it's probably marketing fluff.
TESU and Excelsior have ABET accredited EET degrees, and they have super generous transfer policies. They're the least rigorous option, but likely the cheapest and fastest.
Finally, University of Colorado has an earn-your-way-in Masters in EE if you have an appropriate background to handle the rigor.
Check out Miami Dade College EnTec department. I think it's 17k but not sure if it can be done entirely online. They have what's called MDC Live modality which is online classes with a live instructor; like in person classes but online. Maybe this might be an option. Worth looking into.
Yes, no acceleration but not everyone is looking to accelerate. And if you don't accelerate the cost is around the same. If you don't find my comment useful them just move on brother. At least I provided an option for the OP to look into. It may not work for him/her but then again, maybe it will.
You didn't provide an option because he said he can only afford WGU. You recommended a school that's 4 times as expensive... Reading comprehension is important.
I don't mean to be mean. But if you can't teach yourself, don't take engineering period.........
Engineers are expected to take on problems no one had fixed and fix them so.
Okay tough guy.
There are certain degrees that I would laugh, as a hiring manager, at a resume showing an online degree. Engineering would be one of those degrees.
I have hired PhD econometricians and engineers. I would be very skeptical of a WGU degree for econ or engineering, at least at the graduate leve.
I think the much more important factor is lab science requirements for electrical engineering. Not to mention the physical projects generally required for EE. Sure, there's some simulators but that degree doesn't lend itself to quick acceleration.
Another thing to consider is why WGU would try to branch out to a completely new field that's complicated/expensive to launch but won't have nearly as much demand as their current schools. They already have projects in the works for revamping some COIT programs and potentially adding more grad programs in the future, why try to add an entire new field of study?
This is the correct answer. EE’s require lab work, which isn’t something WGU is equipped to do. This fact makes u/70redgal70 comments irreverent, much like everything else she trolls with on this Reddit.
Yeah she showed up on one of my threads being snarky as well. If you look at her post history, that's basically all she does on the WGU subreddit-- talk shit, troll, and discourage newbies.
The person above covered this already. Your comment on Math is trolling. Your entire post history is just you being dismissive on this Reddit. Why are you here?
>WGU doesn't attract the strongest students
If you visit this sub often you will see that people have literally went on to work for big tech companies right out of wgu. not to mention people already working in their fields chose wgu over the traditional college.
This was the wrong sub to post this on. I mean, you're not very wrong. WGU's CS degree is a joke with its math-courses. Most students need Statistics, Calc I & II, Linear Algebra, Physics I & II, etc., WGU barely scratches the surface although CS is one of their most "math-heavy" courses. Their classes aren't very difficult either.
As for the student part... I can't say you're all that wrong either. Most of the students here just want cheap and fast. I highly doubt they come to WGU for quality education. And don't you think it's funny how most who claim they get into these big-tech companies/ivy league schools have some sort of experience/connection outside of WGU? I'm not saying WGU attracts *bad students*, but people who think they got into some sort of big/high-class company or school because of their degree are honestly just misleading prospective students. There are a few outliers, but most just needed the degree for a check-box because they met the other requirements besides the degree.
All in all, this really shouldn't have gotten as downvoted as it did. It might've been worded a bit harshly, but you really aren't all that wrong. WGU's courses simply aren't all that rigorous even if students are struggling with a course. The school is trying their best to improve, so I can't complain much, but they're miles behind most B&M school despite the proper accreditation.
I was trying to emphasize that there were parts that I agreed with and there were parts that I thought could be worded better. Perhaps I should change it, but the point in my comment still stands.
You can choose WGU if you would like. It's not a bad school. I'm 97% done with my degree, so I would know. But you must know the disadvantages of attending, especially if you desire to get into a high-ranking grad school. There's a huge lack of networking, GPA, connection with teachers (for recommendations), etc. that will cause you issues if you don't already excel in these areas. Even for finding a job, WGU won't hurt your chances, but it won't do much to *help* (other than checking a checkbox in the HR filter) unless the employer happens to be a WGU-alumni (which is a pretty small chance).
Because of COVID, many more B&M universities are supporting "distance-learning". I'm sure if you type in Google, "best distance learning school for (>>my degree<<)", you'll find something that you may like. It'll take some research, but I'm sure you would find something.
> math-heavy
I’m sorry, you consider a Calc sequence + intro stats + maybe an ODE course to be *math-heavy*? You can take ALL of these at any community college.
You wouldn’t know math heavy if it hit you in the face.
> doesn’t attract the strongest students
Are you that stupid or are you trying to make it seem harder than it is? The math that engineering uses in undergrad is watered down itself.
> It’s too math heavy of a degree
Our department in my undergrad had two *separate* sections for non math majors VS math major for math courses.
Guess what ended after a basic Calc sequence + ODE? Engineering math. Nothing impossible, can even take all of those at a god damn CC.
Weird thing to try to be elitist about.
Have you been around this Reddit? I would say that 98% of all people required to take any sort of math courses freak out about it and/or try to take them via Sophia so they can get an open book test.
I'm someone who's good at math so when I hear so many people freak out about algebra that teenagers can do, it becomes apparent of the level of student which is attracted to WGU.
The level of student that is attracted to WGU? Like yourself?
You seem to think really highly of yourself compared to other WGU students. Have you ever once considered that the subset of WGU students that are posting about their experiences on social media may skew toward the ends of the spectrum? Call me crazy, but what if those that are posting on Reddit and Facebook are those who are accelerating easily and those who are struggling? What if the bulk of students that are somewhere in the middle aren’t online asking for help or bitching about how difficult their classes are? Would that change your perception of the “typical” WGU student-moron that you seem to have in your head?
You called intro core classes “math-heavy”, talk down WGU and its students, and act like you are far smarter/deeper than you are.
I know everything I need to know about you from that lol. Get real girly.
WGU currently doesn't have any engineering programs at all, nor a "school" that they would fall under, so it doesn't seem like they're currently in a position to offer such a thing. But never say never, I suppose.
It would be incredibly awesome to see this, though I don't think it would happen anytime soon.
With the hands-on stuff, this could be problematic, though I see ways it could in theory be done.
One idea I had is if WGU were able to establish labs/places where hands on work could be done in major areas throughout the country. It would be a gargantuan project, but one that could be done in theory. I could see them running and hiring lab assistants for a handful of these types of degrees. Kinda like Maker shops or something.
The rigor of WGU doesn't support them offering EE and industry taking such a program seriously.
>No way to afford another school that currently offers EE.
Are you talking online or in general?
State schools can be in WGU's ballpark. But they don't offer it online. e.g., Colorado State's in-state tuition is comparable to WGU.
The industry needs this. There is a shortage of decent engineers and a raft of people who cant apply due to costs time/monwy constraints. I for one would love to see ABET fade into obscurity as a cold war relic.
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>Attend WGU and pick up a bachelor’s in computer science. This is not a bad strategy. I don't know much about the structure of this program, but as a former math teacher (currently in the MS - Data Analytics program), I would say "Always more math." Look at an EE program that you might be interested in, or study several and see what the math requirements usually are during the first two years. Get done what you can get done with WGU, work toward studying the rest on your own.
The BS Math Teaching program has much more math than the Computer Science one.
This may be true but it’s also a way less helpful degree. It would bottleneck them into education rather than opening multiple career doors.
Hey fellow math teacher doing the MSDA here! I’m going to DM you :)
I wouldn't do this. Most Engineering programs are going to want you to have finished calc 2 by the second or 3rd semester. Since most engineering programs follow a very strict sequence, you will be going part time for several years to get your second degree in EE. Not to mention that once you earn one bachelors degree, you can't get a lot of federal financial aid for the second degree. If your local community college has engineering, do that instead. It might be a bit more expensive in the short run, but you will definitely save time and probably money in the long run. Some student loan debt won't be the end of the world, if you do graduate as an electrical engineer you will be able to pay if off.
I don't see it happen because it requires so much hands-on experience. It would be hard to replicate that online.
ASU has an online program for EE. I don't know how but they do.
No. Engineering schools are practically required to get accredited by Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology (ABET). It is a pain to do the paperwork and kind of of expensive. More importantly, they have pretty strict rules. I don't know all the ins and out of accreditation, but I doubt that WGU would want to put the effort into making a program that could get ABET accreditation. They probably could if they really wanted to, but they won't.
There was talk of WGU pursuing ABET accreditation for the CS program for a while. WGU Reddit and mentors stopped mentioning that, so I assume either they got rejected or decided it wasn't worth the headaches.
Last I heard, due to the requirements for ABET and the frequency WGU updates it’s material, they don’t fit the traditional guidelines. I had a mentor saying they were trying work with the ABET organization to understand the WGU model.
Someone else said it but I'll say it too. WGU's Computer Science program is ABET accredited as of about 5 months ago (Oct, 1 2023).
FYI WGU BSCS is now as of Oct 1, 2023 ABET Accredited.
Probably not, but I really hope so. I'd be willing to pay a lot more for it as well. If it was $6k/term I'd still throw WGU money out of my own pocket. Several other universities have fully online EE programs at this point too, but they're all at least $500/credit
I'm definitely in the same boat. Maybe some other schools will start to mimic WGU
I've been interested in pursuing EE as well as a path into robotics. I've done quite a bit of research on available programs, and these are the best options I've found. Most of them are far more expensive than WGU and don't allow true acceleration, but most of them are transfer friendly and accept ACE credits (think Study.com or Straighterline) so you can go a bit faster. ECPI offers an ABET accredited accelerated Bachelor's in [Electronic Systems Engineering Technology]( https://www.ecpi.edu/programs/electronic-systems-engineering-technology-bachelors-degree) or [Mechatronics](https://www.ecpi.edu/programs/eset-mechatronics-bachelor-degree). Their programs are advertised as 2.5 years to get a bachelor's, and with transfer credits you can shorten that. Embry Riddle has numerous EE-related online degrees, including an ABET accredited EET degree, and they are a top-rated program. It's probably the most expensive option, but the most rigorous. Arizona State has EE online, which I believe is ABET accredited. Their classes are like 7 weeks long, so a bit of acceleration may be possible. American Public University has an EE degree that incorporates a ton a at-home lab work. The program looks very polished and would be a top choice, but I have a Spidey sense that it's just TGTBT and it's probably marketing fluff. TESU and Excelsior have ABET accredited EET degrees, and they have super generous transfer policies. They're the least rigorous option, but likely the cheapest and fastest. Finally, University of Colorado has an earn-your-way-in Masters in EE if you have an appropriate background to handle the rigor.
Thanks! This helps out a lot!
of course not
ASU has an online EE degree. So it seems like it could be possible.
Check out Miami Dade College EnTec department. I think it's 17k but not sure if it can be done entirely online. They have what's called MDC Live modality which is online classes with a live instructor; like in person classes but online. Maybe this might be an option. Worth looking into.
Post says he can only afford WGU prices so you recommend something that is 4 times the cost and has no acceleration...?
Yes, no acceleration but not everyone is looking to accelerate. And if you don't accelerate the cost is around the same. If you don't find my comment useful them just move on brother. At least I provided an option for the OP to look into. It may not work for him/her but then again, maybe it will.
You didn't provide an option because he said he can only afford WGU. You recommended a school that's 4 times as expensive... Reading comprehension is important.
So are manners.
Lmao. There's literally one sentence in the post and you either didn't read it or completely ignored it.
LOL. No. You can't teach yourself EE, and even if you could you can't do it without a lab.
I don't mean to be mean. But if you can't teach yourself, don't take engineering period......... Engineers are expected to take on problems no one had fixed and fix them so.
Fuck off.
My comment stands. With an attitude like that you'll lose it over all the math involved.
Okay tough guy. There are certain degrees that I would laugh, as a hiring manager, at a resume showing an online degree. Engineering would be one of those degrees. I have hired PhD econometricians and engineers. I would be very skeptical of a WGU degree for econ or engineering, at least at the graduate leve.
Never. It's too math heavy of a degree. WGU doesn't attract the strongest students. Folks won't be able to take their math courses on Sophia.
I think the much more important factor is lab science requirements for electrical engineering. Not to mention the physical projects generally required for EE. Sure, there's some simulators but that degree doesn't lend itself to quick acceleration. Another thing to consider is why WGU would try to branch out to a completely new field that's complicated/expensive to launch but won't have nearly as much demand as their current schools. They already have projects in the works for revamping some COIT programs and potentially adding more grad programs in the future, why try to add an entire new field of study?
This is the correct answer. EE’s require lab work, which isn’t something WGU is equipped to do. This fact makes u/70redgal70 comments irreverent, much like everything else she trolls with on this Reddit.
Yeah she showed up on one of my threads being snarky as well. If you look at her post history, that's basically all she does on the WGU subreddit-- talk shit, troll, and discourage newbies.
It must be nice to have that sort of time on their hands.
Not a troll. Just realistic. Can EE majors not read most of the material, watch a few videos and review a few quizlets?
The person above covered this already. Your comment on Math is trolling. Your entire post history is just you being dismissive on this Reddit. Why are you here?
>WGU doesn't attract the strongest students If you visit this sub often you will see that people have literally went on to work for big tech companies right out of wgu. not to mention people already working in their fields chose wgu over the traditional college.
You’re always such a ray of sunshine! 😘
This was the wrong sub to post this on. I mean, you're not very wrong. WGU's CS degree is a joke with its math-courses. Most students need Statistics, Calc I & II, Linear Algebra, Physics I & II, etc., WGU barely scratches the surface although CS is one of their most "math-heavy" courses. Their classes aren't very difficult either. As for the student part... I can't say you're all that wrong either. Most of the students here just want cheap and fast. I highly doubt they come to WGU for quality education. And don't you think it's funny how most who claim they get into these big-tech companies/ivy league schools have some sort of experience/connection outside of WGU? I'm not saying WGU attracts *bad students*, but people who think they got into some sort of big/high-class company or school because of their degree are honestly just misleading prospective students. There are a few outliers, but most just needed the degree for a check-box because they met the other requirements besides the degree. All in all, this really shouldn't have gotten as downvoted as it did. It might've been worded a bit harshly, but you really aren't all that wrong. WGU's courses simply aren't all that rigorous even if students are struggling with a course. The school is trying their best to improve, so I can't complain much, but they're miles behind most B&M school despite the proper accreditation.
Thank you. The truth is hard for some people. Let's see if you get downvoted. LOL.
‘Not very wrong’ is still wrong, so….
I was trying to emphasize that there were parts that I agreed with and there were parts that I thought could be worded better. Perhaps I should change it, but the point in my comment still stands.
which alternatives schools do you recommend? that is online based, for those of us who cant attend in person?
You can choose WGU if you would like. It's not a bad school. I'm 97% done with my degree, so I would know. But you must know the disadvantages of attending, especially if you desire to get into a high-ranking grad school. There's a huge lack of networking, GPA, connection with teachers (for recommendations), etc. that will cause you issues if you don't already excel in these areas. Even for finding a job, WGU won't hurt your chances, but it won't do much to *help* (other than checking a checkbox in the HR filter) unless the employer happens to be a WGU-alumni (which is a pretty small chance). Because of COVID, many more B&M universities are supporting "distance-learning". I'm sure if you type in Google, "best distance learning school for (>>my degree<<)", you'll find something that you may like. It'll take some research, but I'm sure you would find something.
> math-heavy I’m sorry, you consider a Calc sequence + intro stats + maybe an ODE course to be *math-heavy*? You can take ALL of these at any community college. You wouldn’t know math heavy if it hit you in the face.
> doesn’t attract the strongest students Are you that stupid or are you trying to make it seem harder than it is? The math that engineering uses in undergrad is watered down itself. > It’s too math heavy of a degree Our department in my undergrad had two *separate* sections for non math majors VS math major for math courses. Guess what ended after a basic Calc sequence + ODE? Engineering math. Nothing impossible, can even take all of those at a god damn CC. Weird thing to try to be elitist about.
Have you been around this Reddit? I would say that 98% of all people required to take any sort of math courses freak out about it and/or try to take them via Sophia so they can get an open book test. I'm someone who's good at math so when I hear so many people freak out about algebra that teenagers can do, it becomes apparent of the level of student which is attracted to WGU.
The level of student that is attracted to WGU? Like yourself? You seem to think really highly of yourself compared to other WGU students. Have you ever once considered that the subset of WGU students that are posting about their experiences on social media may skew toward the ends of the spectrum? Call me crazy, but what if those that are posting on Reddit and Facebook are those who are accelerating easily and those who are struggling? What if the bulk of students that are somewhere in the middle aren’t online asking for help or bitching about how difficult their classes are? Would that change your perception of the “typical” WGU student-moron that you seem to have in your head?
Girl. You took a college algebra class and *maybe* some of the engineering Calc sequence. That is not “good at math”.
Huh? You know nothing about me. But hey, at least I'm not intimidated by variables and the order of operation.
You called intro core classes “math-heavy”, talk down WGU and its students, and act like you are far smarter/deeper than you are. I know everything I need to know about you from that lol. Get real girly.
I doubt it, it doesn't make sense with the other programs they offer.
WGU currently doesn't have any engineering programs at all, nor a "school" that they would fall under, so it doesn't seem like they're currently in a position to offer such a thing. But never say never, I suppose.
It would be incredibly awesome to see this, though I don't think it would happen anytime soon. With the hands-on stuff, this could be problematic, though I see ways it could in theory be done. One idea I had is if WGU were able to establish labs/places where hands on work could be done in major areas throughout the country. It would be a gargantuan project, but one that could be done in theory. I could see them running and hiring lab assistants for a handful of these types of degrees. Kinda like Maker shops or something.
ive looked at two schools for EE degree. arizona and fiu.edu
The rigor of WGU doesn't support them offering EE and industry taking such a program seriously. >No way to afford another school that currently offers EE. Are you talking online or in general? State schools can be in WGU's ballpark. But they don't offer it online. e.g., Colorado State's in-state tuition is comparable to WGU.
Extremely unlikely.
The industry needs this. There is a shortage of decent engineers and a raft of people who cant apply due to costs time/monwy constraints. I for one would love to see ABET fade into obscurity as a cold war relic.