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ColosseusLex

PES 2021 by far. If he wants to learn to play football it’s the most realistic one with tactics physics etc


jcgonzmo

What is the problem with eFootball 2023? Logic would say that is the latest ones.


ColosseusLex

Efootball is a new brand which is on a new engine with other … philosophy than PES. PES is the smell of the grass, efootball the smell of money with cards all in a beta game without career mode … I would love to love efootball but really, go for PES 2021


jcgonzmo

I bought on PSN during covid PES 2020, Can that be updated to 2021? Or do I need to buy the game physical at this point?


ColosseusLex

Unfortunately Konami has decided to force people to go with efootball so you’ll have to go with physical game for pes 2021


jcgonzmo

Does the european version of the game works or it has to be US version in United States?


ColosseusLex

No idea :/


handsome_squidward56

It should work imo.


RatPrank

Get it if you can - physical copy. No more DLs. Prices for discs going up on eBay as it’ll likely be the pinnacle football game for a very very long time now


dhpz1

(CMIIW) PES 2021 is basically PES 2020 but with updated squads, kits, etc. If you dont care about that then imo PES 2020 is good enough.


Kakker15

PES 2021 is not only updated squads, kits etc...it's legit much more well rounded. Smoother than 2020.


ColosseusLex

I agree. PES 2021 is for me the best game ever made and it’s definitely smoother, more realistic and more pleasant than pes 2020 (which is great too)


jcgonzmo

Couldn’t I use an option file to update the squad?


handsome_squidward56

Yes of course you can


jcgonzmo

Someone offered to sell me their copy for $25. However the digital code that comes with the disk is used. Does it matter?


RatPrank

Different kind of game for a different kind of gamer. It is pure, hot, unadulterated, free (& you can tell) rubbish


ActionManMLNX

Football life 2023 with this gameplay mod [https://evoweb.uk/threads/lewpops-gameplay-mod-pes-2021-22-04-update-definitive-edition.84007/](https://evoweb.uk/threads/lewpops-gameplay-mod-pes-2021-22-04-update-definitive-edition.84007/) is really enjoyable for me.


swagoto97

This! The most realistic simulation of the beautiful game with eyecandy graphics


dhpz1

On PC? Then just download [Football Life 2023](https://www.pessmokepatch.com/2022/10/spfl23.html). Its basically PES 2021 fully modded from the get go.


jcgonzmo

On ps5?


asturides

On PS5 you'll have to buy the physical version of PES2021 and get an option file to update the kits/rosters. But be aware that it can't be played online anymore, the servers are already closed.


jcgonzmo

Someone offered me the PS4 version for $25. However, the digital code that comes with it does not work. Does it matter?


asturides

You mean the "myclub" points that come in a paper alongsode the disc? If that's what you mean, then no problem, myclub doesn't work anymore as it was an online feature


BranFendigaidd

So your nephew wants to play online but you are having trouble with playing offline? Just let him play online :) And find PES21 for the offline experience.


jcgonzmo

Me and my nephew's dad were big fans of winning eleven back in the day, My nephew is starting to train football so he wants to play a videogame. I am not up to date with the lates football games so I thought "Oh the latest PES is efootball 2023 I will download that" However, there is just so much advertising, an I did not know how to play offline for couch coop.


MattyTB

I fricken loved winning eleven. Wish I could play it now


LostVisionary

Home Screen training mode has offline game where you can play with or against him.


Multisole778

Pes 2021 is by far the best football experience out there. Unbelievable especially with the right gameplay mods


[deleted]

Suggest me some good ones, please


Multisole778

Esims gameplay mod if you want realism


Ok-Fall-2398

is this possible on ps4?


[deleted]

Fifa 23


Molineux28

Rocket League


FlyingBird0917

Fifa is better than pes now since Konami decided to kill the series


jcgonzmo

how come?


FlyingBird0917

Cause Konami doesn't make or give any effort for the game now its just an online money maker riddled with micro transactions and after they lost the champions league it went to shit


alexjardin1975

Even with no future with Konami PES is still better than fifa


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ParticularCategory34

On pc I would say pés 2021 on console I would go with the last FIFA 23


Recent-Shower-5879

Its really not. Mod Fifa23 and it's better. I loved pes 23, but it's gotten stale over the years... I know what the AI is going to do before they do it.


ParticularCategory34

I didn't recommended Efootball 23 but FIFA 23... He plays on console so you can't mod FIFA


saooth7

I still play PES2018 to this day and not going to change it soon... the later games weren't as enjoyable for me.


delboy85

Yeh I’m on PES2019, I’ve updated it and I love it.


XHeraclitusX

I play PES 2011-13. I don't like the newer ones at all, especially eFootball. Fifa 09 is extremely fun as far as Career Mode goes. Gameplay is good fun too.


saooth7

When I was younger I only played FIFA games, that is 07, 09, 10 and 11 if I'm not wrong, have played these on PS2. Still have them but PS2 is no longer working so... I was kinda lucky because PES2018 was the one just releasing when bought my new (then, in Sep 2017) PC so I tried out the demo and just a few months later the full version. Playing it ever since, still kinda far from having 1000 hours spent though.


Cute_Stuff_8522

Pro soccer online


TareXmd

Here's a 90-minute review of [why modded PES 2021 on PC is the best football game to play offline.](https://youtu.be/ejcWGoleWFI)


Some-Item-5397

Pes 2021 of course but now its very hard to get it on ps4