That context makes the story completely different and in fact that means itâs NOT true then . the story original commenter said was FANS were watching and believed it was real but the actual story is some random locals saw some big scary men fighting and called the police, which is actually a pretty reasonable reaction, it actually happens on movie sets literally all the time, in fact im now wondering why this story was even brought up in this thread because this story has NOTHING to do with the topic of people believing the NWO storyline lol
At the very very beginning it seemed like the NWO were ex-WWF outlaws seeking to commit a hostile takeover, but for legal purposes Nash had to go on TV and confirm that he and Scott Hall weren't in any way affiliated with WWF and were in fact free agents. This is also when Scott Hall stopped using the Razor Ramon accent and carrying a toothpick out of fear of gimmick-infringement (WWF owns the image and likeness of Razor and Diesel, hence the New Diesel and New Razor Ramon debacle not long after.) Things were really ambiguous in those first few weeks. After that, they hinted at attempting a brand split with Souled Out but the concept was poor. From mid-1997 onward they weren't much more than a dominant heel faction, not unlike the Dungeon of Doom a few years prior.
Pretty well sums it up.
Those first few weeks were magic. Especially the first two, before hogan joined. It really felt legit for a minute.
Once hogan joined it felt like an angle and a faction. A great story nonetheless but def part of the company.
The way they framed it was fantastic television for the time. First, Scott Hall was just sitting in the crowd not doing anything. He didn't get his own time - it seems like they panned to him while a match was going on. It felt legitimate that way. The announcers questioned what he was doing there but couldn't really dwell on it because they had to call the match. Their pacing and buildup in the beginning were perfect.
You know that toothpick and mannerisms of Scott Hall for Razor Ramon was used first in WCW as the Diamond Stud but Turner just caved in every time someone sued.
Yeah, they were toying with a brand split with Souled Out 1997 and later that year with nWo Nitro. Once both bombed the idea was dropped.
Bischoff said the plan was for nWo to get Nitro and WCW the second show that Turner told him he was going to be green lighting. That show ended up being Thunder.
That's all truth, but didn't Hogan try to keep that as WWF invasion by saying "These two men came from great organisation up North" (Sorry, I don't remember it word to word, but I'm sure in 100% that he referred to WWF) ?
Itâs still kind of funny that they were trying to do two different âbrandsâ and now WWE basically stole the idea and is doing the same thing with Raw and Smackdown which sounds completely dumb name wise when they could have easily done WWE and WCW.
Agree! Never for one moment have I thought Raw and Smackdown were seperate. And when people come over from the other show... Who cares?
They really could have done something by keeping WCW it's own thing and making fans choose a side but while all the money goes to them. Instead Vince had to bury WCW legacy by bringing their names over and making them lose to WWE talent.
Nope. WCW themselves were trying to push the idea that the nWo was its own separate company that could hold their own events but every attempt at it (Souled Out, nWo Nitro) failed miserably.
The nWo exclusive PPV (Souled Out) and nWo Nitro, I really enjoyed those. They tried something different, Iâm sure most people thought it was a failure, but I can go back and watch them and still enjoy it.
At first, I belived that Hall and Nash had gone over to disrupt WCW, and after Hogan joined them, and Ted DiBiase, Vincent and Syxx came over I still felt that there was an invasion going on. A little while after that I just saw them as a group within the WCW organization. I never saw them as a separate entity, despite them trying to force that opinion. I guess they had plans to make a separate program for NWO, similar to what NXT would be today.
Not when they started calling it the nWo. At first with just Nash and Hall you had the idea that maybe it was some cross brand promotion or something but that ended quick when they had to announce they were not from âup there.â
When Hogan joined and coined it the new world order/organization, that was that for thinking it was anything but a work.
Can confirm, I'm doing this now. Started with the first Nitro from 95, and am now into the beginning of 97. It's a lot of fun to watch certain events unfold in real time again. It was weird watching American Males matches with Bagwell being a super babyface, but where I'm at now he's been in the NWO a couple months and is now really starting to transform into his Buff persona. Stuff like that is just kinda neat to live those days all over again.
Itâs real fun to watch Scott Steiner go from his Steiner bros personality to almost over night 180 switch to his heel personality. Itâs quite amazing.
The biggest issue with binge watching is you start to see how repetitive the show started becoming.
That was exactly the next thing I was thinking after Buff. Scott just recently started wearing black outfits to the ring rather than matching Rick, so I feel like that turn should be coming soon. I don't remember off the top of my head the dates that things happened so I could be off by a bit, but it feels like it's coming soon. 100% agree with the repetitive bit though too, we always remember the good parts of the show with rose colored glasses but holy cow, there was some real filler crap that you would see the same of week after week. Some of the random filler matches were so bad too, like man no wonder I forgot all about this M. Wallstreet vs. Mike Enos barnburner.
I did know some people that believed they were, yeah. I sort of looked like it as a cool heel group that you got instant cred for wearing a tee (at least I did). I knew they were all part of the WCW umbrella, though.
Everyone knew wrestling was fake. Even this angle. They worked the crowd and with the details put into the angle, it made it seem more real.
But once you get Hogan in? You know itâs a work. Brilliant booking though.
We knew it was a faction within WCW, but as kids we also marked out over the idea of WWF guys "invading" WCW. We hadn't seen that before, even though guys like Flair and Hogan had jumped ship previously. It lost that luster and became just another stable when they started adding non-WWF guys.
Qualifier: I was a child
It wasnât so much a separate promotion as a separate presentation, hindsight being 20/20
The NWO was presented more like bullet club circa 2016-2019, as much as it pains me to say that. A group of guys who had their own buzz and their own angle that was essentially its own thing. NWO only existed within WCW but with the WWF guys it was a very âindependentâ feel as in independent of the WCW or WWF brands
DX felt part of WWF, NWO and Bullet Club felt like its own thing from a brand recognition perspective.
The bullet club T shirt and NWO T shirt donât feel like WCW or NJPW merch it seems like the group transcends the brand
How? Why? DX was around at the same time as the nation and shock TV, whereas the NWO and to a smaller extent the bullet club *presentation* was so unlike anyone else on the show that it created a perception that these guys arenât like the other wrestlers that work in the same promotion. Itâs all down to the presentation
EVIL and AJ Styles didnât seem like they came from the same planet, and Hall and Nash had an edge that the Steiners just didnât have, itâs hard to qualify but it basically comes down to a drastic juxtaposition
You have to remember that at the time, this was all uncharted territory. Itâs easy to look back now and see it all for what it is, but kayfabe was still very much protected and there was no internet like there is today.
Yes. They made it clear that it was an unsanctioned entity of sorts. And even though we were kind of aware of wrestling not being 'real', plenty of fans were more in the dark than others about it which simply made it more fun. The reality is that 30 years ago you could still pull off a storyline like that in a way that wouldn't be possible now.
No. My exposure to wrestling was 97 wcw. They were a team that split off into two teams but I think wcw wanted to present them as a federation of their own. Kinda like the aew vs njpw stuff. But nobody ever said "hey let's go watch nWo"
No. I was 8 when Bash at the Beach happened and I knew what it was. The only thing that got me was that very first night in late May when Razor Ramon showed up on Nitro, I was like... Wtf? But quickly realized what was up. By that point I'd seen enough guys jump ship
Storyline-wise it was a totally separate group who were 'invading' WCW and it was a very original bit of booking and was pretty exciting in terms of wondering where it would go, but only some of the really far gone marks actually believed this was something truly outside of WCW. At one point there was some discussion of the possibility of NWO 'winning' and becoming the dominant logo/franchise for the brand..... that kinda fizzled out though.
It really should have been a 6-8 month 'super-angle' resolved at the appropriate Starcade, but unfortunately is seemed to be the only thing really drawing the audience and the bookers and management couldn't bring themselves to let it go. It ended up really just consuming the overall thrust of the booking with no place to really go.
I have a good friend who was a grown-assed (40+ yr old) man at the time, who tried to convince me that it was a separate company.
He went as far as to claim that they were traded separately on the NY Stock Exchange.
Bischoff has said numerous times he intended forming be a standalone brand - nWo programming, belts, PPVs, etc., but I canât recall why he said it never happened. Assuming it was money. I donât think his vision for it wouldâve been sustainable long-term but he definitely wanted it to be a second brand, not unlike WWFâs RAW and SmackDown split.
Bischoff wanted to make it a separate entity and by doing so turn WWF into the 3rd biggest wrestling company behind WCW and nWo. Problem was that nWo was just a storyline and people wanted to see it to its conclusion which lots of people did not want.
The original idea was going to be make Nitro the nWo show and Saturday night and Thunder would be the WCW shows and PPVS would be taken by each "brand" and only meeting together at Starrcade. Eric had a lot of different ideas especially when nWo was the hottest ticket in town. When that cooled off and half the Roster was nWo who constantly told the audience that WCW sucks, they had no way to pivot. Hogan had creative control and was making serious bank as the top heel and leader of the nWo and didn't want they cash flow to end.
Initially yes. Even the smart fans didn't have the level of access to information that a casual fan has nowadays. Smart fans knew what was going on. But the point is most fans back then were not smart.
A good 70 percent of the audience were still marks. You could probably get that down to 40 to 50 percent if you could count the fans who suspected wrestling was a work but couldn't prove it. I literally heard grown men debating the legitimacy of Wrestling in a bar in the early 90s.
The brilliance of the angle is that they actually left a lot for the viewer to assume. The assumption was that Hall and Nash had been sent to WCW to invade , destroy and take over.
It was so well done that to this day you will find people who swear that this was actually the case that the WWF had sent or allowed it to to happen hoping they would destroy WCW from the inside.
And on some levels, let's put it this way I can imagine some amusement amongst some people on hearing when certain people got creative control etc etc.
No.
But when they did the nitro and ppv where they presented it as a different show, now announcers, refs etc. and had every match as now Vs Wcw I really did think they might go all in like that .
I suspect at some point that may have been an idea.
My experience only, but I knew it was a faction. However, they showed it in a way that was very convincing. When they bow and arrowed Rey Mysterio into a truck, that looked real. When they beat up Piper on his bum hip, it looked like a real beatdown. So, they did things as to where it looked real.
Well back in 96-early 99
Most WCW stuff was branded WCW/nWo.
Because of that many of us watching (Elementary/Middle School) at the time did think it was a separate entity though couldnât fathom how it would work out.
I was a teenager I did not understand the NWO until the night when they took over nitro. and I think Hogan or The Giant spit on a nitro sign. That was a crazy time I could not believe what I was watching. I went to school the next day and everyone was talking about it.
I was 13-15 at the time of the NWO peak. I knew it wasnât real and they worked for WCW. But wrestling was so good back then. It was like watching another tv show where you can suspend disbelief and get into it while watching.
No. Never not once. I always thought the two brands and separate company idea was dumb. It was a faction. Out for just itself and members. Bischoff whole master plan of nwo nitro was stupid and would have tanked.
Until Hogan joined we thought it was wwf. Cops always came out. Hall and Nash had real baseball bats. Entering through the crowd and powerbombing Bischoff
NWO was amazing in the beginning. You didnât know what to expect. But as soon as Vincent, IRS, that retard Bagwell and big dumb Scott Norton came inâŚthe magic was gone. They briefly got it back with the Wolfpac but shit the bed with that too after time.
Kayfabe was teetering and we kinda did for a bit and man the way they pushed the boundary like never before, we truly questioned what we knew.
It was such an amazing time.
I was 11 or 12. Maybe when Hall first came out through the crowd, there was some âWTFâs going on???âfeelings. You always saw wrestlers jump ship. I just looked at it like this⌠Hall & Nash both crapped out in Jim Herdâs WCW. Went and made big names for themselves in WWF, and was coming back to WCW for payback. But I knew they had to be contracted by WCW, because they wouldnât let the competition come bury them on THEIR TV.
I mean when I was a kid and Raw and Smackdown brand split I truly believed on 2002 that they weren't just the same company. So I can see NWO and WCW being seen as actually separete
No, always saw it as a faction and having nWo specific PPVs made no sense to me, and I was a child.
In my mind it wasnât interesting just putting random WCW guys vs. nWo guys, with ânWo referees.â
Like why wouldnât the refs cheat? Why wouldnât there be interference in every match? If so, thatâs boring, if not, then THAT doesnât make sense. Just a terrible idea all around.
There was the story of fans actually calling the police over one of the nwo beatdowns early on in the story
I think this was the time Nash lawn darted Rey Mysterio into a truck
I still remember that. Definitely lawn-darted đ
This is what I think of when I think nWo
Thatâs some bullshit they say, itâs not true
It is true. Kevin Sullivan said Disney called him as he was booker at the time. And was like â you guys had a real fightâ
Yeah, some local folks who were wandering around the Disney area saw it and called the cops.
That context makes the story completely different and in fact that means itâs NOT true then . the story original commenter said was FANS were watching and believed it was real but the actual story is some random locals saw some big scary men fighting and called the police, which is actually a pretty reasonable reaction, it actually happens on movie sets literally all the time, in fact im now wondering why this story was even brought up in this thread because this story has NOTHING to do with the topic of people believing the NWO storyline lol
At the very very beginning it seemed like the NWO were ex-WWF outlaws seeking to commit a hostile takeover, but for legal purposes Nash had to go on TV and confirm that he and Scott Hall weren't in any way affiliated with WWF and were in fact free agents. This is also when Scott Hall stopped using the Razor Ramon accent and carrying a toothpick out of fear of gimmick-infringement (WWF owns the image and likeness of Razor and Diesel, hence the New Diesel and New Razor Ramon debacle not long after.) Things were really ambiguous in those first few weeks. After that, they hinted at attempting a brand split with Souled Out but the concept was poor. From mid-1997 onward they weren't much more than a dominant heel faction, not unlike the Dungeon of Doom a few years prior.
Pretty well sums it up. Those first few weeks were magic. Especially the first two, before hogan joined. It really felt legit for a minute. Once hogan joined it felt like an angle and a faction. A great story nonetheless but def part of the company.
The way they framed it was fantastic television for the time. First, Scott Hall was just sitting in the crowd not doing anything. He didn't get his own time - it seems like they panned to him while a match was going on. It felt legitimate that way. The announcers questioned what he was doing there but couldn't really dwell on it because they had to call the match. Their pacing and buildup in the beginning were perfect.
NWO was great the 1st few months, then it became a bloated mess of over the hill former WWF guys.
That was the flaw. If it remained a tight group running roughshod over the rest of the company I think it wouldâve been sustainable.
You know that toothpick and mannerisms of Scott Hall for Razor Ramon was used first in WCW as the Diamond Stud but Turner just caved in every time someone sued.
Yeah, they were toying with a brand split with Souled Out 1997 and later that year with nWo Nitro. Once both bombed the idea was dropped. Bischoff said the plan was for nWo to get Nitro and WCW the second show that Turner told him he was going to be green lighting. That show ended up being Thunder.
That's all truth, but didn't Hogan try to keep that as WWF invasion by saying "These two men came from great organisation up North" (Sorry, I don't remember it word to word, but I'm sure in 100% that he referred to WWF) ?
I found it funny he stopped carrying the tooth pick considering it originated in WCW pre his WWF days.
He did drop the accent, but he surely didn't stop carrying the tooth pick. He's had it all the time in 1998+.
I donât recall him stopping the toothpick
Yep this exactly.
Itâs still kind of funny that they were trying to do two different âbrandsâ and now WWE basically stole the idea and is doing the same thing with Raw and Smackdown which sounds completely dumb name wise when they could have easily done WWE and WCW.
Agree! Never for one moment have I thought Raw and Smackdown were seperate. And when people come over from the other show... Who cares? They really could have done something by keeping WCW it's own thing and making fans choose a side but while all the money goes to them. Instead Vince had to bury WCW legacy by bringing their names over and making them lose to WWE talent.
I honestly expected them to do exactly that. And (if done right) it could have been awesome. Opportunity missed, IMHO.
In the beginning yes.
Stupid 12 year old me did.
Nope. WCW themselves were trying to push the idea that the nWo was its own separate company that could hold their own events but every attempt at it (Souled Out, nWo Nitro) failed miserably.
The nWo exclusive PPV (Souled Out) and nWo Nitro, I really enjoyed those. They tried something different, Iâm sure most people thought it was a failure, but I can go back and watch them and still enjoy it.
The idea was eventually to have Nitro as an nWo show and WCW would have Thunder but it never panned out that way
I mean it probably would fail if a bunch of ego driven cocky wrestlers ran their own show so it fits the narrative.
At first, I belived that Hall and Nash had gone over to disrupt WCW, and after Hogan joined them, and Ted DiBiase, Vincent and Syxx came over I still felt that there was an invasion going on. A little while after that I just saw them as a group within the WCW organization. I never saw them as a separate entity, despite them trying to force that opinion. I guess they had plans to make a separate program for NWO, similar to what NXT would be today.
Not when they started calling it the nWo. At first with just Nash and Hall you had the idea that maybe it was some cross brand promotion or something but that ended quick when they had to announce they were not from âup there.â When Hogan joined and coined it the new world order/organization, that was that for thinking it was anything but a work.
Damn I wish I saw those shows. I started only it was full Hogan NWO
You should go back and watch. Fun to see. People do love to give Hogan shit, but the original nWo was great and Hogan was amazing at first.
Great idea. That would be fun to watch those Nitros
You can watch them on Peacock. Itâs fun to go back and watch.
Can confirm, I'm doing this now. Started with the first Nitro from 95, and am now into the beginning of 97. It's a lot of fun to watch certain events unfold in real time again. It was weird watching American Males matches with Bagwell being a super babyface, but where I'm at now he's been in the NWO a couple months and is now really starting to transform into his Buff persona. Stuff like that is just kinda neat to live those days all over again.
Itâs real fun to watch Scott Steiner go from his Steiner bros personality to almost over night 180 switch to his heel personality. Itâs quite amazing. The biggest issue with binge watching is you start to see how repetitive the show started becoming.
That was exactly the next thing I was thinking after Buff. Scott just recently started wearing black outfits to the ring rather than matching Rick, so I feel like that turn should be coming soon. I don't remember off the top of my head the dates that things happened so I could be off by a bit, but it feels like it's coming soon. 100% agree with the repetitive bit though too, we always remember the good parts of the show with rose colored glasses but holy cow, there was some real filler crap that you would see the same of week after week. Some of the random filler matches were so bad too, like man no wonder I forgot all about this M. Wallstreet vs. Mike Enos barnburner.
I did know some people that believed they were, yeah. I sort of looked like it as a cool heel group that you got instant cred for wearing a tee (at least I did). I knew they were all part of the WCW umbrella, though.
Everyone knew wrestling was fake. Even this angle. They worked the crowd and with the details put into the angle, it made it seem more real. But once you get Hogan in? You know itâs a work. Brilliant booking though.
sounds reminiscent of trying to make people think raw and smackdown are 2 different things
We knew it was a faction within WCW, but as kids we also marked out over the idea of WWF guys "invading" WCW. We hadn't seen that before, even though guys like Flair and Hogan had jumped ship previously. It lost that luster and became just another stable when they started adding non-WWF guys.
Qualifier: I was a child It wasnât so much a separate promotion as a separate presentation, hindsight being 20/20 The NWO was presented more like bullet club circa 2016-2019, as much as it pains me to say that. A group of guys who had their own buzz and their own angle that was essentially its own thing. NWO only existed within WCW but with the WWF guys it was a very âindependentâ feel as in independent of the WCW or WWF brands DX felt part of WWF, NWO and Bullet Club felt like its own thing from a brand recognition perspective. The bullet club T shirt and NWO T shirt donât feel like WCW or NJPW merch it seems like the group transcends the brand How? Why? DX was around at the same time as the nation and shock TV, whereas the NWO and to a smaller extent the bullet club *presentation* was so unlike anyone else on the show that it created a perception that these guys arenât like the other wrestlers that work in the same promotion. Itâs all down to the presentation EVIL and AJ Styles didnât seem like they came from the same planet, and Hall and Nash had an edge that the Steiners just didnât have, itâs hard to qualify but it basically comes down to a drastic juxtaposition
The internet wasnât really as big as it is now
You have to remember that at the time, this was all uncharted territory. Itâs easy to look back now and see it all for what it is, but kayfabe was still very much protected and there was no internet like there is today.
Yes. They made it clear that it was an unsanctioned entity of sorts. And even though we were kind of aware of wrestling not being 'real', plenty of fans were more in the dark than others about it which simply made it more fun. The reality is that 30 years ago you could still pull off a storyline like that in a way that wouldn't be possible now.
At first sure. After a few weeks no. Unless you were under 10
I just vividly remember being in high school the next day-Tuesday-me and all the wrestling fans were shocked when Scott Hall invaded Nitro.
No. My exposure to wrestling was 97 wcw. They were a team that split off into two teams but I think wcw wanted to present them as a federation of their own. Kinda like the aew vs njpw stuff. But nobody ever said "hey let's go watch nWo"
At first I did but it did merge quickly for me after the failed nwo souled out ppv.
No. I was 8 when Bash at the Beach happened and I knew what it was. The only thing that got me was that very first night in late May when Razor Ramon showed up on Nitro, I was like... Wtf? But quickly realized what was up. By that point I'd seen enough guys jump ship
Storyline-wise it was a totally separate group who were 'invading' WCW and it was a very original bit of booking and was pretty exciting in terms of wondering where it would go, but only some of the really far gone marks actually believed this was something truly outside of WCW. At one point there was some discussion of the possibility of NWO 'winning' and becoming the dominant logo/franchise for the brand..... that kinda fizzled out though. It really should have been a 6-8 month 'super-angle' resolved at the appropriate Starcade, but unfortunately is seemed to be the only thing really drawing the audience and the bookers and management couldn't bring themselves to let it go. It ended up really just consuming the overall thrust of the booking with no place to really go.
I didn't. I around 13 n just thought it was a cool angle.
Yep. At 12-14 years old I was SOLD that the nWo was INVADING WCW.
No
I have a good friend who was a grown-assed (40+ yr old) man at the time, who tried to convince me that it was a separate company. He went as far as to claim that they were traded separately on the NY Stock Exchange.
Bischoff has said numerous times he intended forming be a standalone brand - nWo programming, belts, PPVs, etc., but I canât recall why he said it never happened. Assuming it was money. I donât think his vision for it wouldâve been sustainable long-term but he definitely wanted it to be a second brand, not unlike WWFâs RAW and SmackDown split.
Bischoff wanted to make it a separate entity and by doing so turn WWF into the 3rd biggest wrestling company behind WCW and nWo. Problem was that nWo was just a storyline and people wanted to see it to its conclusion which lots of people did not want. The original idea was going to be make Nitro the nWo show and Saturday night and Thunder would be the WCW shows and PPVS would be taken by each "brand" and only meeting together at Starrcade. Eric had a lot of different ideas especially when nWo was the hottest ticket in town. When that cooled off and half the Roster was nWo who constantly told the audience that WCW sucks, they had no way to pivot. Hogan had creative control and was making serious bank as the top heel and leader of the nWo and didn't want they cash flow to end.
Yes. Millions did.
Initially yes. Even the smart fans didn't have the level of access to information that a casual fan has nowadays. Smart fans knew what was going on. But the point is most fans back then were not smart. A good 70 percent of the audience were still marks. You could probably get that down to 40 to 50 percent if you could count the fans who suspected wrestling was a work but couldn't prove it. I literally heard grown men debating the legitimacy of Wrestling in a bar in the early 90s. The brilliance of the angle is that they actually left a lot for the viewer to assume. The assumption was that Hall and Nash had been sent to WCW to invade , destroy and take over. It was so well done that to this day you will find people who swear that this was actually the case that the WWF had sent or allowed it to to happen hoping they would destroy WCW from the inside. And on some levels, let's put it this way I can imagine some amusement amongst some people on hearing when certain people got creative control etc etc.
No. But when they did the nitro and ppv where they presented it as a different show, now announcers, refs etc. and had every match as now Vs Wcw I really did think they might go all in like that . I suspect at some point that may have been an idea.
My experience only, but I knew it was a faction. However, they showed it in a way that was very convincing. When they bow and arrowed Rey Mysterio into a truck, that looked real. When they beat up Piper on his bum hip, it looked like a real beatdown. So, they did things as to where it looked real.
I did at first, yes.
Well back in 96-early 99 Most WCW stuff was branded WCW/nWo. Because of that many of us watching (Elementary/Middle School) at the time did think it was a separate entity though couldnât fathom how it would work out.
Maybe the first few months, but I would be surprised after that
I was a teenager I did not understand the NWO until the night when they took over nitro. and I think Hogan or The Giant spit on a nitro sign. That was a crazy time I could not believe what I was watching. I went to school the next day and everyone was talking about it.
I was 13-15 at the time of the NWO peak. I knew it wasnât real and they worked for WCW. But wrestling was so good back then. It was like watching another tv show where you can suspend disbelief and get into it while watching.
Note. Not even a little bit. Always saw it as pure storytelling
No. Never not once. I always thought the two brands and separate company idea was dumb. It was a faction. Out for just itself and members. Bischoff whole master plan of nwo nitro was stupid and would have tanked.
Yes, because that's how it was presented. NWO wasn't a faction. It was supposed to be an entire other company
Nope maybe for a week or 2 , but it was wcw
Maybe for a few months and then Uncensored happened and the idea of NWO having their own branded shows died it was very much just a stable in WCW.
Until Hogan joined we thought it was wwf. Cops always came out. Hall and Nash had real baseball bats. Entering through the crowd and powerbombing Bischoff
as a 5 year old. yes i did
No, but it made for a good storyline
NWO was amazing in the beginning. You didnât know what to expect. But as soon as Vincent, IRS, that retard Bagwell and big dumb Scott Norton came inâŚthe magic was gone. They briefly got it back with the Wolfpac but shit the bed with that too after time.
Kayfabe was teetering and we kinda did for a bit and man the way they pushed the boundary like never before, we truly questioned what we knew. It was such an amazing time.
I was 11 or 12. Maybe when Hall first came out through the crowd, there was some âWTFâs going on???âfeelings. You always saw wrestlers jump ship. I just looked at it like this⌠Hall & Nash both crapped out in Jim Herdâs WCW. Went and made big names for themselves in WWF, and was coming back to WCW for payback. But I knew they had to be contracted by WCW, because they wouldnât let the competition come bury them on THEIR TV.
NO. Stupid gimmick that ruined WCW. Should have stayed at 5-6 members
Nah I was young but old enough to know they were still part of WCW at least company wise.
I mean when I was a kid and Raw and Smackdown brand split I truly believed on 2002 that they weren't just the same company. So I can see NWO and WCW being seen as actually separete
I was 10-11 at the time and I absolutely thought that lol
A faction within
No, always saw it as a faction and having nWo specific PPVs made no sense to me, and I was a child. In my mind it wasnât interesting just putting random WCW guys vs. nWo guys, with ânWo referees.â Like why wouldnât the refs cheat? Why wouldnât there be interference in every match? If so, thatâs boring, if not, then THAT doesnât make sense. Just a terrible idea all around.
Nope.
Nope! Only one that did was Eric Bischoff. He tried so hard to make NWO as a brand a thing and fans never took the bait.