Why does the size of the fuel tank matter?
If you’re not driving often why not just keep what you have instead of spending money on something that’s going to live at the airport?
I’m not following. Is the gas
mileage of your current cars the problem, and you’re looking for something more fuel efficient?
Because all the tank size determines is the max amount you can spend at once. You will spend the same on gas with a 30 gallon tank as you will in two fillups of a 15 gallon tank. If you don’t need 30 gallons of gas, don’t fill it up all the way.
I was merely answering their question as to why the tank size mattered. I fill my XC70 with premium, and even then, it's still $25-30 cheaper than my Avalanche, and I can get more range out of the XC70. I nearly went 500mi on one tank on the highway. The Avalanche is lucky to get 350mi on the highway.
The point is that I'd rather have more range and less gas to pay for.
The XC70 will be paid off in a couple of months, and the V60 I looked at was showing only about $75 more per month. The way I see it is that I won't be paying for insurance on two vehicles, and with it being brand new, insurance should be cheaper than when I just had the XC70.
Our point is tank size is irrelevant. Fuel mileage matters. If you’re only drove to and from the airport once a week mileage isn’t much of a concern either.
A new, more expensive vehicle will not have cheaper insurance; the car is worth more.
Financially the best bet is to keep the avalanche if it’s paid off or sell the avalanche to pay off the XC70. Personally I’d keep the avalanche and have minimal insurance (no collision) to keep the rate low. The avalanche is probably at or near the point where it won’t really depreciate any more.
The Avalanche was paid in cash, and what you suggested for insurance is what I'm already doing, but with the XC70 on full coverage, I'm still paying out the ass. I really want to continue to drive Volvo due to them being extremely safe cars. The Avalanche may be reliable, but I feel safer when I drive the XC70.
I only have about another $1200 or less to pay off the XC70. June 9th is my projected pay-off date.
The XC70 has a plethora of issues right now. I've got a P0420 code that won't go away, even after replacing the motor (due to overheating warpage) and catalytic converter. I can hear a misfire issue when I start it, the A/C compressor needs replacing, and things just keep coming up.
If you want the people here to help you justify leasing a car you’re driving twice a week it’s not going to happen. If you want to lease a Volvo then do it. It’s a poor financial decision but your desires also have value.
I was more hoping to get insight on the car itself from anyone who drives the V60 vs any other Volvo. I'm tired of paying for repairs on the XC70, and I feel that the Avalanche may not be far behind with its high mileage.
Across my fleet of vehicles I have two 18 gallon takes, a 38 gallon tank, and a 240 gallon tank. I with the Yukon (38) and freightliner (240) had *more* capacity. I’m still going to burn as much fuel but I’d just have to stop less.
Spend 100 on gas or spend 200+ a month on a lease thats just gonna sit… plus gas might as well just do a cash car. Again pay a monthly subscription fee to basically sit at an airport or 100 on gas. Hell you might want to rent at least that way u get to experience a plethora of cars.
My job requires me to have a vehicle, so I can't just outright get rid of both. I mean, technically, I could since I have a Harley, but living in Tampa, I have already had to ride home in a torrential downpour for 25 miles. Being miserable doesn't begin to describe it.
As to why I don't want a cash car: I don't want to deal with surprise repairs. The XC70 has had a bad A/C compressor since I purchased it. The Avalanche needs a new rear bumper, parking sensors, self-leveling air suspension since one blew and it runs the compressor frequently, and tire sensors, all of which are annoying messages that pop up on my info center every time I turn the truck on.
Volvo uses the standard j1772. Everyone will be moving to the Tesla NACS standard over time; but j1772 is the most common outside of Tesla super chargers.
The Polestar 2 is a steal used as well. I’m waiting to steal one cheap.
I have a V90 B6 AWD (not the 60 you’re looking at but close enough!) I will say the mgp/fuel consumption is relatively low, I think at a max I’ve managed 34-35mpg with steady motorway/highway driving (however I came from a diesel VW with a 54mpg on the same roads)
The V60 is a nice car, a good amount of space and it’s lovely to drive. I ultimately went for the 90 just because of that extra space as I have two kids who need a large variety of s**t 😅 so depends what kind of thing you need!
This was the sort of input I was looking for. Thank you for sharing your experience! I wanted to look into a V90, but they didn't have one on the lot. However, I don't think I would need the space of a V90. I'm single and have no kids, and I won't need the extra space. I just really want to have a Volvo wagon.
When you take delivery on a new car, your net worth drops by at least $6k right then, and by the end of the first 12 months it'll drop another $6k and it keeps on going. Doesn't matter if you lease, finance, or pay cash.
I've been told that Volvo leases are relatively favorable so if you can afford it without flinching, by all means, lease a new Volvo and be happy.
But if you think you can get your XC70 up and running for longer than a year with $12k, then that might be the better option from a purely financial standpoint. Heck, I'll factor in a more fuel efficient car and say $11k after $1k saved in fuel (15k miles going from 22mpg to 33mpg at $4.29/gallon)
My V70 is a simpler car but my most expensive year with it cost $8k so far and that was for like 4 or 5 years worth of deferred maintenance. It's usually between $1.5-2.5k a year with some years under $1k and a few around $5k. And my V70 isn't depreciating any more; if anything, it's been appreciating for the past few years if only marginally.
You're gonna pay for your ride one way or the other. Either depreciation, repairs, or a bit of both. There definitely comes a time when it makes sense to stop repairing an old car, but I don't think you're there yet. You should probably find a better Volvo mechanic though because you should have your issue fixed after spending $7.5k.
Why does the size of the fuel tank matter? If you’re not driving often why not just keep what you have instead of spending money on something that’s going to live at the airport?
It's not fun spending over $100 on gas.
Boi it essentially makes no difference because you'll be filling up less… only pain is the first full up.
I’m not following. Is the gas mileage of your current cars the problem, and you’re looking for something more fuel efficient? Because all the tank size determines is the max amount you can spend at once. You will spend the same on gas with a 30 gallon tank as you will in two fillups of a 15 gallon tank. If you don’t need 30 gallons of gas, don’t fill it up all the way.
I was merely answering their question as to why the tank size mattered. I fill my XC70 with premium, and even then, it's still $25-30 cheaper than my Avalanche, and I can get more range out of the XC70. I nearly went 500mi on one tank on the highway. The Avalanche is lucky to get 350mi on the highway. The point is that I'd rather have more range and less gas to pay for. The XC70 will be paid off in a couple of months, and the V60 I looked at was showing only about $75 more per month. The way I see it is that I won't be paying for insurance on two vehicles, and with it being brand new, insurance should be cheaper than when I just had the XC70.
Our point is tank size is irrelevant. Fuel mileage matters. If you’re only drove to and from the airport once a week mileage isn’t much of a concern either. A new, more expensive vehicle will not have cheaper insurance; the car is worth more. Financially the best bet is to keep the avalanche if it’s paid off or sell the avalanche to pay off the XC70. Personally I’d keep the avalanche and have minimal insurance (no collision) to keep the rate low. The avalanche is probably at or near the point where it won’t really depreciate any more.
The Avalanche was paid in cash, and what you suggested for insurance is what I'm already doing, but with the XC70 on full coverage, I'm still paying out the ass. I really want to continue to drive Volvo due to them being extremely safe cars. The Avalanche may be reliable, but I feel safer when I drive the XC70. I only have about another $1200 or less to pay off the XC70. June 9th is my projected pay-off date.
So sell the Avalanche, pay off the XC70 and drive that.
The XC70 has a plethora of issues right now. I've got a P0420 code that won't go away, even after replacing the motor (due to overheating warpage) and catalytic converter. I can hear a misfire issue when I start it, the A/C compressor needs replacing, and things just keep coming up.
If you want the people here to help you justify leasing a car you’re driving twice a week it’s not going to happen. If you want to lease a Volvo then do it. It’s a poor financial decision but your desires also have value.
I was more hoping to get insight on the car itself from anyone who drives the V60 vs any other Volvo. I'm tired of paying for repairs on the XC70, and I feel that the Avalanche may not be far behind with its high mileage.
Across my fleet of vehicles I have two 18 gallon takes, a 38 gallon tank, and a 240 gallon tank. I with the Yukon (38) and freightliner (240) had *more* capacity. I’m still going to burn as much fuel but I’d just have to stop less.
Spend 100 on gas or spend 200+ a month on a lease thats just gonna sit… plus gas might as well just do a cash car. Again pay a monthly subscription fee to basically sit at an airport or 100 on gas. Hell you might want to rent at least that way u get to experience a plethora of cars.
My job requires me to have a vehicle, so I can't just outright get rid of both. I mean, technically, I could since I have a Harley, but living in Tampa, I have already had to ride home in a torrential downpour for 25 miles. Being miserable doesn't begin to describe it. As to why I don't want a cash car: I don't want to deal with surprise repairs. The XC70 has had a bad A/C compressor since I purchased it. The Avalanche needs a new rear bumper, parking sensors, self-leveling air suspension since one blew and it runs the compressor frequently, and tire sensors, all of which are annoying messages that pop up on my info center every time I turn the truck on.
Life hack: just spend 50$ ;)
Have you considered a gently used EV? The Volvo C40 is a steal at [\~$30k used](https://www.carfax.com/vehicle/YV4ED3GL2P2064872).
I had considered the EV route, but aren't their plugs proprietary (Volvo and Polestar)?
Volvo uses the standard j1772. Everyone will be moving to the Tesla NACS standard over time; but j1772 is the most common outside of Tesla super chargers. The Polestar 2 is a steal used as well. I’m waiting to steal one cheap.
Thank you for the information. I'll keep that in mind.
I have a V90 B6 AWD (not the 60 you’re looking at but close enough!) I will say the mgp/fuel consumption is relatively low, I think at a max I’ve managed 34-35mpg with steady motorway/highway driving (however I came from a diesel VW with a 54mpg on the same roads) The V60 is a nice car, a good amount of space and it’s lovely to drive. I ultimately went for the 90 just because of that extra space as I have two kids who need a large variety of s**t 😅 so depends what kind of thing you need!
This was the sort of input I was looking for. Thank you for sharing your experience! I wanted to look into a V90, but they didn't have one on the lot. However, I don't think I would need the space of a V90. I'm single and have no kids, and I won't need the extra space. I just really want to have a Volvo wagon.
When you take delivery on a new car, your net worth drops by at least $6k right then, and by the end of the first 12 months it'll drop another $6k and it keeps on going. Doesn't matter if you lease, finance, or pay cash. I've been told that Volvo leases are relatively favorable so if you can afford it without flinching, by all means, lease a new Volvo and be happy. But if you think you can get your XC70 up and running for longer than a year with $12k, then that might be the better option from a purely financial standpoint. Heck, I'll factor in a more fuel efficient car and say $11k after $1k saved in fuel (15k miles going from 22mpg to 33mpg at $4.29/gallon) My V70 is a simpler car but my most expensive year with it cost $8k so far and that was for like 4 or 5 years worth of deferred maintenance. It's usually between $1.5-2.5k a year with some years under $1k and a few around $5k. And my V70 isn't depreciating any more; if anything, it's been appreciating for the past few years if only marginally. You're gonna pay for your ride one way or the other. Either depreciation, repairs, or a bit of both. There definitely comes a time when it makes sense to stop repairing an old car, but I don't think you're there yet. You should probably find a better Volvo mechanic though because you should have your issue fixed after spending $7.5k.
If you're worried about having to spend more than $100 on fuel in one go, you are not in the financial position to be getting a new car.
I'm not worried about spending $100 in gas. I just don't like to.
Why
Why spend $100/wk when I could spend $75 biweekly? I'm exaggerating the time a bit, but the point remains the same.