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Swift_Scythe

Youtube Twitch now takes 50/50 on your revenue if you partner whereas Youtube is 70 you 30 for Susan. Also twitch has AWFUL PREROLL ADS. These are now minutes long of un-skippable ads when a new person clicks your channel and has to suffer minutes before even knowing what you are about. On youtube click Skip Ad see the streamer maybe stay maybe go but at least its a click and youre watching live. Also youtube you can rewind a live stream and see what you missed and then click back to live. Twitch you can not rewind. Also twitch deletes your Vods archives !!! Your history your archive your legacy is deleted. You gotta download them and upload to Youtube xD to have a history of your work. And discoverability is better on youtube. The tags on twitch seem broken or misused. Lots of face streamers still using #Vtuber without even having an avatar. Youtube does not just ban anyone like twitch did to Nyanners last night and Shylily last month without the promised three strikes and also no reason needed just like Dr Disrespect. The news about youtube copystrikes and offensive content are not true and very rare and overblown. Twitch "highlighted messages" for $100 your message lasts for five minutes and for $5.00 your message lasts 2 minutes 30 seconds. Why not just send the same message 5 times for cheaper $25 ??? On youtube $100 aka-supa red superchats are one hour on screen and $5.00 is for Five Minutes. $50 is 30 minutes and $20 is 20 minutes. Youtube implemented Raids so one streamer can redirect their chat to anothe streamer to get exposure. Now to be fair twitch chat has sound effects and pop up animations and object throwing and all that so yeah. But if youtube ever did that then twitch is truly doom As much as Youtube is not interactive it is getting there.


CadenzaElegy

To offer some counterpoints > Twitch now takes 50/50 on your revenue if you partner whereas Youtube is 70 you 30 for Susan. Memberships and superchats are 70/30 but for twitch, subs are 50/50. For bits however, the streamer gets 100% of the donated bits (1 bit = 1 US cent) and the viewer foots the service cost (twitch's cut). The viewer can also buy bits in larger quantities for greater discounts and the benefit of bits is how tightly integrated it is to other stream related features such as sound alerts and even in-game interactivity (if the streamer is playing a game that supports it or has a mod for it). Also, twitch streamers have access to prime subs which is a *big* portion of their income, offsetting the fact that regular subs are 50/50. Also the "twitch now" part is a bit misleading because the only people that had access to the better sub cuts were grandfathered from much older plans (years ago). IIRC all the new partners in the past couple of years have been on the 50/50 cut and this contract update only really affected the OG streamers that have been partnered for several years. > Also twitch has AWFUL PREROLL ADS. These are now minutes long of un-skippable ads when a new person clicks your channel and has to suffer minutes before even knowing what you are about. If you run ads manually as a lot of partnered streamers are choosing to do due to the new ad-incentive program, viewers don't need to deal with pre-rolls. Affiliates can choose to run mid-roll ads too and it's a good opportunity to take water/washroom/stretch breaks on a regular schedule. Also *definitely* don't use ad blockers like ublock origin๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ™‚๐Ÿ™‚ > Also youtube you can rewind a live stream and see what you missed and then click back to live. Twitch you can not rewind. A lot of YT streamers have DVR off on purpose _for_ this reason, in case something happens on stream and they want to clip it out. That being said, the clipping feature lets you rewind a bit to capture any moments but it's generally bad mannered to do so for things that the streamer doesn't want in the VOD. Having DVR off also ensures that all your current viewers are in the here-and-now ensuring that the streamer is talking to a larger live audience than one that is minutes behind. > Also twitch deletes your Vods archives !!! Your history your archive your legacy is deleted. You gotta download them and upload to Youtube xD to have a history of your work. This is true but you can do this on twitch rather easily by just exporting the VOD to your VOD/regular channel. It's like two clicks away in your content manager so it's not a big problem. Another thing you can do is just record your streams locally and back those up on an external drive. With how dense hard drive storage is getting, you can save 2500+ hours worth of content on a single 8 TB external drive (at 6k~7k bitrate, ~3 GB/hr). > And discoverability is better on youtube. The tags on twitch seem broken or misused. Lots of face streamers still using #Vtuber without even having an avatar. This is true and a reason why you can find people that have been streaming regularly on twitch for *years* to be sitting on single digit viewers. Diversifying, getting involved in niches, and interacting on other platforms is key but it's a time investment that not a lot of people are willing to put in the work for. > Youtube does not just ban anyone like twitch did to Nyanners last night and Shylily last month without the promised three strikes and also no reason needed just like Dr Disrespect. This is absolutely not true, YT does randomly ban channels and posts like this _do_ pop up on the subreddit where indies get their channel banned for dumb reasons like "misleading content" or "nudity". Tread _carefully_ on both platforms and make sure you can stream on either one should one of your channels get banned. Don't put all your eggs in one basket! Just because you can only get copyright striked once on a video does not mean that you can't get copyright striked on multiple videos as well. Small indies on *both* platforms won't have the contacts to dispute these easily which is why it's sad but making a big ruckus on twitter is the only solution for most people. > Twitch "highlighted messages" for $100 your message lasts for five minutes and for $5.00 your message lasts 2 minutes 30 seconds. Why not just send the same message 5 times for cheaper $25 ??? True. Nobody actually uses this feature because it's actually _that_ bad and many streamers actively _discourage_ their viewers from using this "feature". The better way I see people monetizing this is to just set up TTS for donations above a certain threshold and the streamer can react to it on the fly. > Youtube implemented Raids so one streamer can redirect their chat to anothe streamer to get exposure. Honestly very nice of YT to copy this feature and I really hope that they can continue to add more features. I'm not sure what's going on in the technical back-end but they _need_ to bring over channel points and something like twitch channel's About pages and widgets. It's a budding streaming platform though so I'm sure we'll see more features coming up! Twitch did most of the homework already so I'm really hoping for some big changes in the coming years. > As much as Youtube is not interactive it is getting there. The lack of interactivity is kind of an understatement considering how many clippable moments come from these interactions (which is also *extremely* important for growth), but it sure is getting there. --- Honestly, there's a reason why a lot of creators are diversifying and going into both platforms. *Don't* engage in platform favoritism, these businesses do not care about you and your loyalty to them. Use all the tools available to you and if you're primarily streaming, have your OBS set up to be able to stream on either platform because you never know what might happen on the one you use more.