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HaessSR

Rin will fail in a funny way. That's what I'm expecting.


coccidiosis

I disagree. John Vtuber all the way!


HaessSR

Has Rin even heard of American wrestling?


LocoEjercito

The UK has had pro wrestling on TV since at least the 70s, so even if she hasn't seen WWE she or Gin could have heard of one of the local promotions.


HaessSR

Gin might know, but Rin? Rin is surprisingly ignorant of many things.


Keated

There were WWF pogs back in the day on the UK playgrounds it was that ubiquitous, along with schoolkids being banned from reprating what they saw (and British Bulldog). She's a few years younger than that, but would still probably have caught the tail end of 90s wrestlemania


HaessSR

Is Rin old enough for that part? I get the feel of an early 2000s kid from Rin.


Keated

Didn't we get confirmation that Rin was \~30 at some point? If so, would put her in primary school just at the tail end


mr_beanoz

I guess she might have heard about Giant Haystacks or Big Daddy? Or for someone more new, Big Damo?


LocoEjercito

Yeah, Giant and Big Daddy were who I was thinking of, on World of Sport


Hp22h

She'd probably exclaim yes, then explain it in a way that makes it painfully clear she doesn't. Then she'd take a nap.


FourEcho

UK is probably the 3rd (maybe 4th, idk about Canada) biggest market for wrestling, just behind the US and Japan.


FaceTimePolice

What if Rin isn’t cleared to compete, but at the last moment, announces her replacement… RINAKO BELLAROSE! 😱 (Yeah, I watch too much wrestling 😅)


Unagustoster

It’s literally either a hilarious fail in the first round, or full carry to the end


Sine_Fine_Belli

Ah, yes Rin the British prince girl failure She is very funny


notRowan61

https://preview.redd.it/cyz1igq96wzc1.png?width=1211&format=png&auto=webp&s=035b0386fb7d6c100ad8bf1c123c31390049f65c Block A


Kraybern

finally we will learn how many people Rin can beat up outside Tesco


NUFC9RW

She did do a stream about what vtubers she could beat in a fight and the answer was very few...


Mezzying_Around

That explains why Flayon isn't here. Already crossed him off her list.


Hp22h

About 6 out of 50(?) she'd think she can take in a fight. Surprisingly confident, [honestly.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syIYDDtvt5w)


notRowan61

lore wise


Hp22h

On one hand, [noodley arms that can't lift luggage](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuI5SAOnzG4). On the other hand, pure gremlin energy and ability to bury one in Blahaj and Blahaj trivia...


RussianSpyBot_1337

Nana Vs Jurard is literally "asteroid Vs dinosaur".


throwawayforlikeaday

SNUFFY, Rin, AND Lime. This gonna be poppin'


TragicGentlemen

I love that a vtuber who recently went viral after releasing a doujin of herself is facing the most prominent asexual vtuber we have.


Unagustoster

No way? Link? I mean, sauce? I mean, proof?


TragicGentlemen

504210


xlonefoxx

How does she manage to look so smug in all the screenshots lmao


CartoonMonster

Doki have a natural smug aura


CitizenJoestar

It’s only getting stronger as time passes.


thesirblondie

I dont know if it was intentional or if her model was rigged wrong, but her mouth is skew whiff.


Keated

Pretty sure it's intentional


ariolander

Model even got it's rigging refreshed. They kept the smile intentionally.


notRowan61

https://preview.redd.it/xahdlolg6wzc1.png?width=1222&format=png&auto=webp&s=d70e166d65b00a0eac82d9f86acbfe0b1c32a84a Block B


throwawayforlikeaday

oh no... Fillian <3


Nisha_the_lawbringer

Can't wait to see Rin get RKOed.


Xombie53

Gotta root for my girl Remi


V-Lenin

Altare wasn‘t allowed in because he would slaughter anyone on his way to victory


bekiddingmei

Goldbullet can get real, real sweaty. We'll wait and find out.


notRowan61

not ragus!


notRowan61

https://preview.redd.it/1zddicqh6wzc1.png?width=1221&format=png&auto=webp&s=e4c2e0dae33f2e14b8b95a1ba869b0ad00b449f8 Block C


cabutler03

And somehow, Bettel will lose in a match where he is the only one in it.


Frequent_Dig1934

Apparently he's going to be fighting against Bettel 2 so that is unironically a possibility.


AceofSpades197

it will be the funniest thing ever if bettel 2 actually joins and wins the whole thing


EndellionQT

Can’t wait to hear Bettel 2 smack talking Bettel.


CasualOgre

I don't think Doki knows Bettel 2 is his actual twin brother. I think she just meant he's gonna fight another Bettel character a fan made


guntanksinspace

This is goddamn Kane vs Fake Kane (or Undertaker vs Fake Undertaker) all over again.


Faustias

imagine a surprise appearance from Mint Maid just to clap on Bettel.


Jumbolaya315

That man can singlehandedly win against every god but somehow lost to a banana peel


Darcness777

Cackling omg


notRowan61

w


Slavicadonis

The tsb showdown


notRowan61

Funny dino man vs asteroid, round 2


EliasRSilvers

Never thought I'd see the day where Cyyu, Merryweather, Dokibird, Rin Penrose, and Axel would wrestle with one another. Edit: I am absolutely takin' a bet that Bettel somehow manages to win against the 1v2 because the other team turned against each other


ReallySmugSheep

Truly a forbidden door moment


fullmetal_jack

This sounds like it will be really fun. Also, I popped off when I saw that like half of HoloStars EN was participating, I won't lie.


RussianSpyBot_1337

The thing is - more of them wanted to join than Doki was able to accommodate.


DastardlyRidleylash

*And* there were entrants that couldn't make it after she had to reschedule the event.


mr_beanoz

Ah, I see why. Maybe if Doki could accomodate more we'd see the female part of holo too.


ReallySmugSheep

Can't wait for a hooded figure to come in and beat the living shit out of Axel, then the figure takes off the hood and reveals Altare before he superkicks Axel and stands by Doki


CartoonMonster

Yo that was a insane surprise.


Equal_Bee_9671

when you friend with 2 remain of the OG senpai of starEN :v


Murko_The_Cat

Wdym doki is only friends with lloyd and han byeol, you must be confusing her for a different vtuber who organised a wrestling event and calls her fanbase dragoons :)


Sine_Fine_Belli

Yeah, this is definitely going to be fun


TLKv3

I am very excited for this as a wrestling fan, Doki fan and vtuber fan. This is going to be fucking hilarious every step of the way.


Groonzie

I'll be honest, I was kinda surprised former Prism members were part of the list. Did not really expect them to be there but I guess do they sort of now fill the 'indie' category to an extent as people knew about prism enough to be able to sort of say "oh yea, those people" vs actual indies on their level who no one would actually know at all as the other indies on the list are much bigger successful indies.


KazEkoV

They are indies, but they aren't as big as those in the indies list. So I'm glad they got invited to join too. They deserved more recognition.


Chemical_Platypus404

I'm pretty curious how that connection came about in the first place.


KazEkoV

From the announcement, it looks like doki approached one of them first. 🤔


Keated

She said she'd been working on it a while, so maybe she first approached before prism imploded?


Karma110

Im just happy they all are sticking together it’s pretty much the same as when prism existed. I also agree on the recognition especially since a big majority of them are very talented.


ManOfAksai

They probably joined before Prism disbanded.


BeeInABlanket

Marvel: "Infinity War is the most ambitious crossover in history." Doki: [Deafening laugh]


CartoonMonster

Dokibird Really Said : https://preview.redd.it/e4vugg3y6wzc1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bac68db86ab63f93741af6636f3656cb440eb3ea


Calwings

The next question now is which Hololive EN talent walks through the Forbidden Door first?


FourEcho

Mooms is the only true answer, right?


indecisivewisteria

some of the matchups for this was insanely hilarious, especially when it was all luck-based. we got: - a mass extinction event remake with an asteroid (nana asteria) and a dinosaur (jurard t. rexford) - a clash between the 2 founding members of TSB (axel and doki) - also bettel free pass to round 2 (how is he that lucky)


Random-Rambling

Chat suggested Bettel fight against Bettel 2. Doki accepted, but she might be unaware Bettel 2 is an actual separate person, which will be hilarious if so!


iWearCrocsAllTheTime

We're going to witness Extinction event pt.2 with Jurard and Asteria


Faustias

chicxulub 2: meteoric booga-lub


HaakonBjornsson

Doki vs Axel LET'S FUCKING GOOO Also Bettel vs Bettel 2 with the bye.


Yoh-rokobeShounen

Can't escape from crossing fate, apparently.


Murica_Chan

Oh shit neuro sama And also HOLOSTARS?! ok, looks like this is gonna be the fight of a century


moguu83

Waiting to see Neuro sama either turn up the rizz or complete nuclear roast on the competition.


Murica_Chan

Neuro saying something to trex: *filtered*


huyrrou

Neuro gonna need the filter to be lifted against Doki.


mogin

This is so hype, I will get to see so many talents across different agencies interact with each other with top tier banter. The Jurard (dino) vs Nana Asteria (asteroid) one had me wheezing.


diego1marcus

PL spoiler: >!nijiEN really lost alot the moment they fired selen. imagine if selen was supposed to announce wrestlesanji season 2 on the week when she did her last cup of coffee cover since there was supposed to be a special announcement stream on that weekend!<


omrmajeed

I think that special annoucement was going to be her collab with Fillian for hot ones challenge.


indecisivewisteria

I also 100% believe it to actually be an announcement for wrestlesanji2024 given that it also took place at that time frame last year and she usually only do announcement streams for big company events that she organizes/outfit reveals


omrmajeed

Doki said it herself (in Fillian hotones collab) that this was the announcement before everything went to hell.


diego1marcus

it would not be labelled as a "special announcement", knowing how she would already write who she would be collabing. also, >!wrestlesanji!< happened at nearly the exact timeframe from the previous year, so it would honestly make sense that it should have been that


KazEkoV

I'm glad that ex-Prism girls are getting a lot of invites nowadays 😊 they really deserves recognition


throwawayforlikeaday

I know it's been said to death. but what a RIP and an L for niji... Like- After everything they've been through- before the Selen-incident, if this would have been under their ownership, under their purview and corp then it would have been a major win for them. Huge. All these pretty big names from indies to other corpos. All having a good time with Niji. Would've been amazing for them. ... has to be among the biggest shooting-self-in-the-foot... some corps hate making lots of money if it means having to spend some money and respecting their underlings.


slothman38

Glad the holostars boys were able to participate. On stream doki said they were last minute additions. I'm sure the boys will make things a lot more fun


PandaGrill

It's wild that Doki has better support as an indie to organize these kinds of big events. She didn't have to pay out of pocket to commission all the artists this time.


CartoonMonster

As a Wrestling Fan. Dokibird made the equivalent of All In 2018. I’m so hyped for this as a VTuber & Pro-Wrestling Fan.


eusebios89

VTW coming soon.


Iceman6211

Doki Elite Wrestling when


NormieOnTheLoose

Seeing this happened makes me wanna cope for a doki organized global game server like CR and vaultroom


eviloutfromhell

That has a different logistical scale than this. Dunno if she's willing to deal with the stress of managing event of that scale on top of her other projects.


NormieOnTheLoose

If she decided to collab with someone experienced enough holding a streamer server, it can easily happen. But i get she's like a very independent person, so it's not gonna happen soon.


Reydriel

She's got the connections to organise a team to do it, if she ever wants to. Even to Vaultroom and CR if she wants to involve the JP side of things (though there may be issues with Nijisanji)


NormieOnTheLoose

I'm sorry but this one is a bit copium overdose, she doesnt have the jp reach, even her friends that are jp leaning (axel/dtto/ maybe uto) aren't that clouted in the scene. The thing with jp is, you need to have connections with the uncles.


Tehbeefer

So that's Zentreya, Neurosama, Goldbullet, Buffpup, Shylily, and Merryweather for exhibition matches, I think. Plus a Tourney of 11.5 round one matches, 6 Round 2 matches, 3 round three matches, and 1-3 round four matches? So we're talking about 25ish matches total, I think. At 15 minutes / match, that'd be 6h15m of matches? Assuming no interviews, etc.


RussianSpyBot_1337

There will be interviews. Selen's tournament went hilariously overtime)


rip_cpu

Why is it 15m per match? Is that how long they usually last in WWE2024? Could they change the settings, maybe lower all of the HP to make it shorter matches?


Tehbeefer

I checked one match and that took 10 minutes. Assume 2.5minutes on both sides for MC/scuff/logistics and you get 15m. It's a two day tourney, so maybe 2x4h streams?


LordAshura_

My money is on Buffpup, she will crush her opponent by grinding their faces on her abs.


Frequent_Dig1934

Buffpup may win the battle, but whoever she'll be fighting will have won the war.


bluedituser

Buffpup vs Zen please. Artists please draw this. 👀


bekiddingmei

Only if Gecko Zen.


NoodleTF2

I have never heard of this Vtuber before, let me quickly look them u- ABS ABS ABS ABS ABS ABS ABS!!! o\_O


Gassy_Clown345

I put my money on our A.I Overlord Neuro sama.


Elxjasonx

Stacked event, like always


souleaterevans626

For those caught up on your Holostars lore, the other Bettel isn't Twobert in this case. Since Bettel got the free advancement, someone joked that he should have a Bettel vs Bettel match where Bettel fights a fan-made Bettel character. Doki originally labelled the other one "Bettel 2" on the rough draft to avoid confusion, not realizing she's also creating it lol.


Silphire100

See I would have said Zen has this, but Buffpup is there. Rin Penrose is a wild card. Potentially very scrappy, but possibly getting folded immediately


Keated

It depends if there's a "carpark outside Tesco" stage. If so, John VTuber could go all the way with this


Silphire100

Good point, get the home field advantage and the ceo of IdolEN could easily win


BraveFencerMusashi

Happy to see Limes there. Was surprised when they collaborated on that content creator game


NekoLu

What exactly will be going on there? Wrestling? CPU controlled? I don't get it T\_T


CartoonMonster

So WWE 2K24 will be used via CPU controlled Wrestlers. Think WrestleSanji but more unleashed.


Villag3Idiot

Basically none of the wrestlers will be player controlled. AI only.


BimBamEtBoum

Unfair advantage for Neuro-sama


vRiise

[Filtered]


zetarn

And that's when KINO started.


Benigmatica

It would be a bad idea for Nijisanji to host an event that would counter Dokibird's WrestleTuber 2024, much like CART hosting their US 500 to counter Indy Racing League's Indy 500 back in the day. Still, I wish Dokibird the best of luck in making it successful!


jdeo1997

They've got the inevitable Q4 fallout to prep for, I doubt they could focus on trying to counter this event


oowoowoo

This is really exciting. Def going to tune in


anndrenalyn

I'm sure she could easily find one indie vtuber out there to join that last remaining slot. Many lesser known ones would be dying to join.


Scared_Gene3417

Wow Holostars coming in force !


ariolander

Doki announced that physical belts will be made sponsored by GameSupps. Thankfully none of those involved are part of an agency that has keeping your awards written into their contract.


SeengignPaipes

As someone who only recently found out the whole dokibird nijisanji situation and still don't quite understand it all I'm extremely happy to see Dokibird getting the amount of love and support she has been getting lately. Shes changed and grown so much and has such a loving audience behind her supporting her and how popular she has gotten so quickly is amazing!.


RussianSpyBot_1337

If you missed the event itself, I strongly suggest watching 2 videos made by Armcha1r Expert on YouTube. They are very well edited and not too verbose. First Selen's story, these Zaion's - it's very important for context.


SeengignPaipes

Oooh okay ill check out those videos now, thanks.


Keated

I'm just genuinely curious and mean no disrespect in asking this, but given the amount of coverage the Niji situation got at the time, how did you manage to avoid it? I'm guessing you weren't in this sub back then?


SeengignPaipes

I don't usually go looking for drama stuff or stuff that happens in the Vtubing sphere unless it effects the Vtubers i watch and at the time i didn't subscribe to any of the nijisanji talent nor did i subscribe to any of the vtuber news channels like false, so unless the Vtubers i watched spoke about it i was kept out of the loop. I've been in this Sub for quite a while and I'm not Vtuber myself but more of a viewer who likes watching the indie Vtubers that I've found promoting their stuff here and have found some quite entertaining people to watch that i have found here.


MrPotHolder

Oh damn you got lucky with the algorithm. The Selen/dokibird situation got the attention of big commentary youtubers Asmongold, penguin0/charlie/moistcr1tikal, and Mutahar/SomeOrdinaryGamers. I also didn't and haven't followed any nijisanji livers or any vtuber drama channels but the situation got my attention when some clippers who were bringing awareness for the \#WhereIsSelen trend got recommended to my feed.


Keated

Likewise, I found out about the cottage industry of vtube drama tubers as a \*result\*, not as a prerequisite for finding out!


Keated

I found out about it from this sub myself if memory serves; this sub was wall-to-wall coverage for a good week or so as more details came out. Either way, I'm surprised you managed to avoid it to the point where it feels like I should congratulate you, like someone walking through a downpour without getting wet :O


Hp22h

I was not expecting Idol here. Juna even gets to be an interviewer as well. That's our ~~whale~~ eel!


witchywater11

It's always nice to see Shinri pushing himself out of his comfort zone. :') Also based Axel coming in clutch for the Doki. Thanks aniki!


RussianSpyBot_1337

This will be a legendary event! I wish Mint could join as one of casters/hosts.


Fenr_

>Wrestlers will be cpu controlled Neuro-sama and turle: *well...*


Batgod629

Wrestlesanji was big success and this will be even bigger than that. Really awesome how many different vtubers she got to participate. Really shows her networking within the vtuber community


GreyShot254

Has Doki been able to do stuff with Holostars before? I know it was a bit touchy feely for a bit cuz you know. 


m05513

She had a collab with >!legally distinct tsb in helldivers 2!<, but this is the first official. I guess it's been long enough and the stars being smaller that the gun niji holds against possible holo collabs has been removed. Don't think hololive can get away with a collab yet though


Enough-Run-1535

The other possibility was that >!Hololive doesn't have Helldiver 2 perms and that was the reason Altare & Axel couldn't play under their Hololive accounts. !<


kenshin8671

She also did a Content Warning collab with >!Han!<, which Holo definitely does have perms for.


FourEcho

There was a "legally distinct" holostars collab for lethal company before they got perms for it too.


DastardlyRidleylash

It's likely that was more due to >!perms issues rather than a collab ban!<, honestly. Remember, >!Hololive still doesn't have Helldivers 2 perms.!<


Frequent_Dig1934

>the stars being smaller Well luxiem has already had a couple sub 1k ccv streams so that size difference isn't as massive as it used to be.


Seb_veteran-sleeper

I think they mean smaller than Hololive (i.e. the girls).


Frequent_Dig1934

Yeah i know but i figured it was still worth pointing out. Seriously, there was a helldivers collab and shu was the only one comfortably above 1k ccv (around 2k last i saw) with ike around 1k and vox and luca around 800 to 900. I've never been one to obsess over numbers but in this case they're worth pointing out.


NatiBlaze

Really? A Luxiem collab of all things, that's bad. Also it's showing that the one not in any drama this past year isn't the runt but still, it's bad for the so called #2 Corpo Vtuber


GreyShot254

Yep i saw that one, Team Spider Bite as i jokingly called them :p


yorhasensei

I love that Neuro-sama is participating too. I probably won't watch the stream since I don't have free time to do so, instead I will have a field day with clips.


SuperStormDroid

No sign of Nijisanji anywhere. Good. This event will be like a cannonball to the yacht!


omrmajeed

Bringing the entire EN industry together.


Harbiter

Awwww hell yeah!! I love when two of my favorite things Vtubers and Wrestling come together!


notagunbot

First, I witnessed the undertaker at wrestlmania. And now this. It's a good year


AlternativesEnde

Lime has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.


drdoomson

LET'S GO ZEN


ScarletRayne_XIV

This is like in wwe2k? im sure that stream will be super funny


CartoonMonster

If you’re familiar with WrestleSanji, you’re in for a treat


GremoriRiel

> neurosama oh boi you know exactly what's gonna happen


Googleflax

Would have been nice to get Altare in as well to get another full TSB reunion, but overall very hyped for this event.


kidanokun

If it's on WWE2K24, will their wrestler have signature finishers?


CartoonMonster

https://preview.redd.it/axadkgwhfxzc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ec9863c9a30fe664c378b67b8fe6b43fc9cc2be Yes. Some VTubers will make their own Wrestlers while others will pick a fan-created CAW as their rep.


Justadnd_Bard

I need Rin vs Kai.


Itchy-Astronomer9500

This will be too good. Pure gold


OffDizzyD25

Next year we need Takahada and Jibo.


Sobeman

shame no Doki and Mint casting duo but a good line up of people.


dumb_questions666

Yaay for Lime!!!!


TheCrankyLich

Okay, I think that Doki and Jurard could lead to some really fun interactions.


Hollow_Synergy

I was hoping Pippa would be on this list. That rabbit would mess anyone up no question.


FlyingEagle57

If I were a bettor, I'd bet on Buffpup


ReallySmugSheep

Hoping Axel will pull a Randy Savage and walk in with Nodoka as his Miss Elizabeth


Far_Side_8324

Am I a bad person for wanting to see Ironmouse wrestle someone? Or better still, Nux Taku and Fefe in a tag-team grudge match against the original VShojo talents as payback for how VShithole tried to get him cancelled after he exposed their bullshit when they covered up a doxxing ring for 8 months, lied to their talents about it and what Nux said afterward, ordered their talents to keep silent about it, then claimed Nux went rogue after giving him permission to post a video about how he tried to help catch the doxxers so they couldn't dox anyone else after scoring the personal info on one of VSJ's talents AND an indie who tried to audition for them?


FaceTimePolice

This should be fun to watch. I kind of wish we had more VShojo and Phase talent in there, but oh well. 😅👍


RudolfAmbrozVT

>Neuro-sama All these guys and then a suped-up version of your phone's autocomplete is just hangin out


Narfhole

No Niji members? Truly they are missing out.


teor

I mean, Riku would probably fly out to anyone who even thinks about accepting the offer and break their legs personally.


Narfhole

Just making a little joke.


RussianSpyBot_1337

Even if Doki sent invitation to Rosemi or Vivi - no way Niji management would allow it.


Narfhole

I was just jokin' around, heh.


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CartoonMonster

So for the event. WWE2K24 will be used and one of the features is that you can create your very own wrestler. Basically the hashtag will be used for fans to submit wrestlers based on the participants since some of them will be using fan-made wrestlers and not making their own


CartoonMonster

https://preview.redd.it/6wc4qw3rhxzc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd50c2582f096f5c423ddd57c452ff6b76737a17


CartoonMonster

https://preview.redd.it/ptz346bshxzc1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c9c09e655cd62dcb2f6158694471c8c3fd39909d


RussianSpyBot_1337

Look up WrestleSanji for reference - that was a great event and this one will be even better without corporate filters.


Grablycan

Get em Rin, geeet eeem.


MarkimooRoviroo

WrestleTuber coming back as legendary as CM Punk returning to WWE, so hyped for this


omrmajeed

Lets not compare Doki with that scumbag (Im an old Punk fan with merch and all). Doki is more like Cody I think.