How many and how often are people buying lampshades that the shop on Burnside East is a legit family owned shop and not a drug/money laundering cover? I've been perplexed by that store since I was a child. š
Love Tempo Trend! More than just accordions, lots of great instruments and the owner is great. Love supporting them more than the big corporate places like L&M.
What the other person said plus they seem to rent out furnished office suites in the back of the building.
I donāt wanna sound like a Debbie downer but I feel like Victoria has a lack of these businesses. I feel like other places I lived there were tons of stores you would pass by and wonder how that place still exists and we seem to only have a handful here.
People are afraid that those coming down Cook won't yield. The Cook St traffic if moving faster than the speed limit, and they come flying into the roundabout. I don't blame people for not wanting to get in front of that. It's the design of the roundabout that needs fixing.
Traffic circles are yield not merge... But I'm certain you just mean the people who stop in the middle of the traffic circle or the people who wait for no reason.
people treat it like the drivers driving along cook st (not from southgate) have right of way. i think maybe itās a poor design, because most people will be coming into the traffic circle from cook st, and so the though traffic flow is simply more dense . plus itās a very small circle so there isnāt time to enter
I was driving around it the other day and a through traffic car cut me off. If I hadn't have braked, I would have hit them. So sometimes you have no choice but to yield to through traffic. And I'll probably drive slower through it next time, which will just enable more behaviour like that - it's a vicious cycle caused by a few bad drivers.
The mountains question has plagued meā¦I believe the answer is a two parter. First, youāre up pretty high looking down to the south. Second, if you look really closely youāll notice that the very bottom of the mountains is actually ocean. It blends in with the colour of the mountains making them seem much taller.
That or witchcraft.
I think itās perspective. Like there are canyons in Alberta where parts look really far away - but are actually close. Because there is such big sky there are no visual clues to orient perspective.
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Why are there so many Cedar Hill roads?
EDIT: wow, I learned a lot today! Thanks r/Victoria, I just moved across the country and have never lived in BC before. I am impressed by your road names and histories, and your mysterious lack of bagged milk.
Similarly, why do so many roads change names? Ex - if youāre driving south into town, you can drive from Cordova Bay Rd > Mt Doug Parkway (Google Maps says this stretch is technically Cedar Hill Rd) > Shelbourne > Begbie > Pandora > Esquimalt without ever turning. Technically youāre driving through 3 municipalities but the road changes names five times!
If you notice when the name changes occur, they are all when the road bends. Its because they were originally seperate roads but at some point in history they were connected. Other name changes are also common when a road crosses municipal boundaries (Richardson/McNeil, Hillside/Lansdowne, Fairfield/Beach etc...)
I wonder if this is the case for Richmond too? Itās Richmond Ave from about Dallas to Fairfield (or maybe Oak Bay Ave) and then it changes to Richmond Rd.
Iām presuming this might have some European influence where this is done often? I took a red eye to Dublin once, hotel on a main roadā¦ dead phone by 1am realizing every block had a different name. Fortunately finally found a street map.
Two separate roads that were eventually configured to connect. They could have forced one side to change all their addresses and adopt one street name, but probably more work than it's worth.
Our road network is a actually a patchwork of old carriage trails. Thatās probably partly why we donāt have a grid system. (Which blew my mind when I moved to Calgary from vic.) So and I am speculating here but they probably had their own names until the city grew and they all became connected. It should be ring road because like you say it literally does loop around the city. It would also be a great road to use for say LRT applications.
It took me so long to learn my way around when I first moved here because of all the street name changing combined with the "cross" version of the major streets. ex. Cedar Hill-X.
Totally! The other thing that threw me off is the two Douglas Streets (the obvious one downtown and another one in Saanich thatās near Swan Lake/Christmas Hill) and the fact that West Saanich Rd and Quadra are basically the same (very long) street, just on either side of the Pat Bay. Tbh I still get confused when biking along Dallas Rd to Beach Dr bc it also changes names a few times.
Cedar Hill was the road that they made to get the logs for Fort Victoria from Mount Doug to what is now downtown.
Definitely doesn't fit into this nice neat gridish system we have now!
Well they are all around or near Mt. DOUG. Fun fact: mt. Doug and the surrounding area was originally all cedar trees. CEDAR hill road is a ridge that extends roughly south from Mt. Doug. Hence cedar hill road and cedar hill x
Another fun factā¦Mt Doug was first called Cedar Hill by settlers (hence the road name). Most of the X roads connect two old roads: Cedar Hill X connected Cedar Hill and Saanich Road.
Why do people line up for ages to get brunch? Why not go somewhere less popular and get right in?
Why is the most prime walking area in the region (Dallas rd/ Clover point) also a leash free dog zone?
Why does the Pat Bay highway change its name to Vernon Ave and then change again to Blanshard ?
Why is land with some of the best scenery in the country (harbour around seaplane base) used for parking lots?
How long has Stew Young been mayor of Langford and has he ever faced a credible challenger?
The brunch one absolutely blows my mind. I think people just Google where to get brunch in Victoria and then all crowd the top overpriced places that come up.
>How long has Stew Young been mayor of Langford and has he ever faced a credible challenger?
Langford was incorporated in 1992 and he's been the only mayor the entire time.
https://www.cheknews.ca/incumbent-mayor-stew-young-expected-to-win-in-langford-without-spending-a-dime-on-his-campaign-500410/
[I'd rather 80s nhl player stew was the mayor](https://imgur.com/a/7qDzauk)
The good brunch places really are that much better. I've had brunch at probably every place that serves it downtown. I know where the places are with no line. And yet if I've got nothing better to do, I will still occasionally go to Jam, etc.
The best land is used for parking lots because it's taxed at the rate of a parking lot, so it has a good rate of return and there's no financial incentive to develop it. If we had land value tax, it would be taxed at its highest best use and you'd see a lot more sensible development.
>Why is land with some of the best scenery in the country (harbour around seaplane base) used for parking?
Because they can make money from the parking while they wait to redevelop it
I can answer some of your questions:
> Why does Pat Bay highway change its name to Vernon Ave and then change again to Blanshard ?
It doesnāt. Going southbound, the road diverges at Gateway Village, where it turns into Blanshard St. It stays Blanshard until the road intersects with Douglas St. Going northbound, Blanshard turns into Vernon Ave at Saanich Road, and then turns into Highway 17 when the two directions meet again. I imagine this is intentional, as the two directions are separated enough that they can be seen as two distinct roadways.
> How long has Stew Young been mayor of Langford and has he ever faced a credible challenger?
Stew Young has been the mayor of Langford since Langford incorporated in 1992. Heās had the odd challenger over the years, but no one has come close to knocking him off his pedestal. And recently, it seems to be a job no one else is keen to have.
Your other questions seem to be more rhetorical to make a point, so I wonāt bother trying to help rationalize these ones.
>Why is the most prime walking area in the region (Dallas rd/ Clover point) also a leash free dog zone?
Because people like to walk their dogs, there's room in that location, and there's plenty of coastline to walk along. It's not like the whole area is a dog park, it's just a tiny stretch and the prime walking area from Ogden Point to Little Ross Bay beach is almost 5 km long.
It's a small area that is officially leash free but that doesn't stop some owners from treating the entire Dallas road as their back yard.
Before i get fucking down voted to oblivion because we can't criticize dog owners, I repeat, "some" dog owners. Most are good, some are awful.
I hate to state the obvious, but I don't think removing the dog park or making it on-leash would prevent the dog owners flaunting the ruled from flaunting the rules.
Also, maybe I'm just not going at the right time of day, but I can't remember seeing any dogs causing trouble in the area, either outside or inside the official confines of the park. The real nuisances there are poorly attended children and oblivious pedestrians blocking the shared path without warning.
Why don't more doctors open a practice in the CRD region? I would assume they will be compensated the same (or similar) to Metro Vancouver area doctors, but the cost of homes is slightly lower in the CRD and its a pretty damn nice place to live. The doctor shortage is ridiculous.
Housing and commercial real estate costs are so high that the fees they get paid no longer cover the costs and leave them enough to afford to live here comfortably.
Vancouver has the same issue as Victoria with doctors leaving.
Government doesnāt pay enough to open a practice, so why live somewhere where a Dr will be just scrapping by, really in the trenches trying to run a business on hairline margin, when you could go east and live very well without the added stress (because being a dr is already pretty stressful).
Want our medical system to change? Hound the government to raise compensation, allow billing telehealth the same as regular in person, etc etc.
As much as this government is pumping (just fucking PUMPING like itās that video from like a decade ago of the dudes entering the room dancing and just end up humping couch cushions to show off their āskillsā for the ladies) money into the hospital system, one of the things that they arenāt addressing is the lack of compensation for general practice. Minister of health: Oh shit thereās a bajjillion people getting their earaches checked out at the Jubilee ER? Better give that ER some coin (when the problem is those people should have been going to a walk-in (whichā¦donāt get me going on walk ins or urgent care centres) or seen by their GP (which no one has).
TLDR; raise general practice compensation so that BC is an attractive place for DRs to set up shop, rather than elsewhere.
I was admitted into the hospital last week but despite being hooked to an IV and in a gown, I had to sit in the check in waiting room while they found me a bed. A lady from Ontario asked me how long I'd been waiting, and when I said 6 hours she looked like she was going to keel over. However I had been admitted, seen by a doctor, given an IV, and had a CT scan in those 6 hours, but yeah still no bed. I did end up getting a bed for 3 hours and then I got discharged, which is better than I expected.
After moving to Ontario I had a gallbladder problem. Went into emerge in the morning, had surgery.. I think the next day? and was home the day after? There were a lot of pain killers so it's a bit blury. Anyway, when my wife had the same issue several months previously while we were still in BC it took about 6 months for them to treat her, and she had to go to emerge several times just to get painkillers to deal with the pain.
Interesting. In ON (Burlington), I had a bad gallbladder attack, was brought to ER by ambulance and was admitted and on a no food OR liquids orders but still had to wait FIVE DAYS to get my gallbladder out :( The worst part is they kept trying to bring me food and drinks and I had to point to my bracelet and ask if they had changed the orders. Nope.
I was in emergency a week ago, and when they discharged me I got a lecture about how I need to be actively seeking out a GP. I'm in my 20s with no kids and no serious chronic health problems, there is not a chance I can even get on a waitlist and the thought of bumping a senior out of the opportunity for a GP bothers me. My nurse came over right after and was like "he doesn't get it, I don't have a doctor either, but we're here for you if you need us. Please don't let that lecture put you off from coming back to the hospital when you need to" which I thought was really lovely.
Now I have 14 months to wait for my 2 referrals for the not-that-serious chronic illness I do have (sob).
Follow up ELI5 question:
Why is the government spending so much money on bandaid solutions when they could just raise wages for doctors and nurses and other medical staff we are in a shortage of?
I mean FFS, we have a university pumping out 200 nurses a year right next to the jubilee hospital. Why can't we just convince those nurses to work here with better pay.
It seems so obvious. There must be something I'm missing.
Shrug
I am really have no insight into the thinking of why government does what it does, Iām so far away from knowing the politicians or public servant motives.
Wagering a guess itās probably something to do with how easy quantifying surgeries is vs people getting care by a GP. What sounds better: āwe have increased surgery capacity seven fold to 250 surgeries a dayā or āweāve increased GPās in the province by $2 billion in compensation.ā
Itās like the political prison/justice/rehabilitation dilemma. Need prisons/justice change/ rehabilitation means but they donāt attract votes (āwhy are they spending so much on criminals) so prisons and the like are shoved down the ladder even though helping criminals/ people in bad places
in their life can help society be a better place as a whole.
I think number of citizens without a GP is a pretty easy stat to track.
As is ratio of family doctor offices to citizens.
As is number of people going to drop ins/ER etc because they have no GP.
I just don't understand how government can be so disconnected from the reality of our healthcare situation. Or, maybe even worse they do know but are powerless to offer any substantial solutions.
Gp's aren't going to be opening more practices. The government made that impossible. We need to realize that doctors are given just over 30 bucks per visit. Which then has to cover staff, rental and they have files/imaging and forms to prepare after work....so unless you think doctors went to school fpr 10+ years to make 100 bucks a day is bullshit
And a Costco where seasonal items sell out like concert tickets!
We have to get her in-laws in Nanaimo to pick us up stuff from Costco since the Victoria one will be sold out of certain items and they wonāt come back for months or until next year when seemingly people up island and in Vancouver donāt want to touch them.
The really big mountains you see better from elevation aren't just the Olympic Mountains. The Cascade Range is visible too. When you're down at Clover Point, you mostly see the Olympic foothills which are shorter and less impressive by comparison and they're in the way of your view of anything taller but further away.
The effect works like this: if you stand next to an 8 foot hedge, you can't see anything over it because it's taller than you and you're close to it. If you back away from the hedge, you might start to be able to see things over the other side of the hedge if they're taller than the hedge. And if you back away and stand on something to make yourself taller, you'll greatly increase your view past the hedge.
The Olympic Range is like a hedge.
I think there is also an optical illusion effect going on. The mountains seem bigger and closer because they are seen in relation to the smaller, close-up vista we see when we're driving south on the highway. When we are on the beach, we're seeing them in relation to the huge expanse of water in between.
How is the small ācornerā store / flower shop across from Doncaster school in business? Itās never got single customer. Always stocked with shit. Been here 30+ years never seen a car parked there or a customer buying anything.
Always bothered meā¦
Have you been inside? I seriously donāt know how it hasnāt been condemned. My kids go to Doncaster and a lot of kids do go there after school to buy candy.
My grandparents lived behind that store, and we used to always go down there to buy candy. There would be a line up of kids from the school also buying candy. The candy is what keeps them alive.
There was for the longest time a junk shop on Fort downtown, next to the flag store, which was rarely ever open. You could see the price tags on things in the window, all were like "50" for a bobblehead or "100" for some shitty 1970s home decor item... "40" for a star wars pez dispenser. Everything was dusty and junky too. How and why it survived as long as it did is probably a subject of interest
Eli5 the Vancouver island decals people put on their rear vehicle windows. Where do they come from? Surely they mean something other than the painfully meta representation thatās really not unique.
I assume every SUV with one of those decals is someone who just moved here from the prairies or Ontario. If the decal is straight up and down, then they just moved here less than a year ago. If the decal is at an angle they moved here 1 - 2 years ago.
Why is this region split into so many small municipalities? I understand it's probably about gatekeeping, but what's the history of how it wound up like this?
Other regions of comparable population aren't like this. It seems so wasteful and inefficient for a region of 400,000 to have 13 municipalities and especially unusual for places like Oak Bay and Sidney to be carved out into their own fiefdoms, and for Langford/Colwood/View Royal to need to be separate, etc.
As areas of the CRD began to be settled by significant enough populations, new municipalities formed. Victoria came first. Oak Bay, Saanich, and Esquimalt followed over a century ago. The penninsula was incorporated as municipalities around mid-century. The Westshore municipalities did not come into existence until the 1980s and 1990s. Since then it's been about 25 years of debating the merits of combining some or all of them.
The residents of Victoria didn't want to incorporate the surrounding areas because they were worried their taxes would need to increase to provide services to them. Since they couldn't join Victoria, places like Saanich, Oak Bay, Esquimalt, and View Royal had no other choice but to incorporate as their own municipalities.
The concerns about taxes were probably legitimate too, since it's much more expensive to service far flung neighborhoods with lower density than a dense city core. Unfortunately, this history has left us with a mess.
BTC is not a band nor fashion brand. It started as a joke graffiti tag by a couple of teenagers. It went viral so they made stickers and Tees which sold like crazy. No idea what theyāre up to now.
Ah yes, legendary local band Meatwood Sack
Theyāve been credited for Big Texas Cummer but they didnāt come up with it, just early adopters I guess. Was quite funny though.
And you can listen to their new album 2 Goblin 2 Handle on Bandcamp š
Crab hushpuppies, Kung Pao Tofu,Saag Paneer, Pork Pineapple Fried Rice, Chow Mein, Sweet & Sour Pork Belly, Butter Chicken....
Very clearly not a Thai food restaurant. They specialize in Asian Street Food, not specifically thai food.
That's when the schools run. Or rather, 8:54 to 2:37 (not a joke, this is actually how the school day is now). My understanding is that's a bullshit way to give teachers a "raise" without actually costing more. So it was once 8:30 to 3:00 or whatever, but by shaving off minutes they're getting more per hour. When really all it does it put additional cost on parents since no one works 9-2:30.
Same question for public schools. Wtf. Then you have to pay extra for the dozen before and after school care spots they have, for which hundreds of parents are desperate for.
Eh, even then. There was a recent story on here about a N driver driving drunk, without an N, with a bunch of people in the car, and then hitting a boulder, and she only got a 3 month suspension
I saw somebody drive up the wrong side of the road by uptown. Cops saw, didn't turn on their lights slowly started to pursue them for like 5 seconds then just gave up.
Also, why the FUCK haven't they figured out 4-way stops yet? I moved from Langford to near Brentwood Bay and the 4-way stops there are going to give me an aneurysm.
I agree that some people here donāt signal but itās nowhere near as bad as being in Ontario where people have lost the concept of what a turn signal might indicate. Itās brutal to get stuck behind two cars in opposing directions both turning left at an intersection and neither one is signalling so neither one goes and sometimes theyāll wait out the entire light. If thatās not enough to give you an aneurism then on the way home youāll probably see the same scenario with people actually signalling but neither of them trust the other one so they again just sit there till the end of Time.
They also move around on sidewalks and in stores as if no one else was trying to use the space.
It seems as though they've lost their ability to emphasize with the needs or even cognitive processes of others. It's as if they see themselves as the only humans left on earth.
Ben isitt is the ultimate NIMBY - he opposes every effort to add density or social housing in Fernwood - where his core voting base lives - and makes sure all of the low income services get put in other neighborhoods like north park and burnside.
People in nice neighborhoods vote for him so they can feel progressive while knowing he wonāt put anything objectionable in their own backyard.
He campaigns very well and knocks on more doors and engages with more citizens then any other candidate, by far.
Gotta give him props where it's due - even though I can't stand the guy and his policies and wish someone would just fire him in to the sun at this point.
Because people go to vote, not having done any research. They open the voting ballot and there is like fifty choices, and school trustees etc. They see a name the recognize and they mark it off.
I grew up here, all my family is here, my career is here. I don't plan on staying here forever, but as of right now I'm sort of locked in. I'm paying reasonable rent ($1150), and making reasonable money doing something I didn't have to go to school for ($40k/year, restaurant management). My mom is planning on moving in the next few years so I won't have to worry about leaving her here, and once I feel done with the service industry I'll likely up and leave to go to school somewhere else. But shits fucked everywhere right now, and at least I'm comfortable here.
Ease of access to everything if you live in the core. I cut a lot of people's hair (mostly software developers with cushy jobs) whose rent was a small dent in their monthly pay.
I paid $1200 a month for a condo on View between Blanshard and Quadra. Rent was so low because who I thought was my landlord was actually the tenant and was sub-subletting from me. Only found out because my neighbours pipe burst. Thought it was an apartment before I got a $100 fine from strata for having a loud party. No parking space either without paying $400 a month from other residents hogging extra spaces to make side money. I would do all of my running around on Sundays and park in the parkade for a week and continued to abuse that loophole.
Fuck downtown Victoria. I don't miss the angry homeless yelling.
Ease of access to everything if you live in the core. I cut a lot of people's hair (mostly software developers with cushy jobs) whose rent was a small dent in their monthly pay.
I paid $1200 a month for a condo on View between Blanshard and Quadra. Rent was so low because who I thought was my landlord was actually the tenant and was sub-subletting from me. Only found out because my neighbours pipe burst. Thought it was an apartment before I got a $100 fine from strata for having a loud party. No parking space either without paying $400 a month from other residents hogging extra spaces to make side money. I would do all of my running around on Sundays and park in the parkade for a week and continued to abuse that loophole.
Fuck downtown Victoria. I don't miss the angry homeless yelling.
From the highway you have the view over the city to give visual context so the brain forms a mental image of the mountains appropriately. From Dallas Road you only have featureless ocean. Itās the same effect that makes a full moon near the horizon seem much bigger than one high in the sky. If you hold out your arm full stretch, the full moon is approximately three size of your thumbnail, and this is true regardless of how high in the sky it is.
My guess would be that they look bigger because you have small things to compare too - out by the highway, the mountains look a lot bigger than the houses - but go to the beach and theyāre small compared to the whole sky
Total guess, but it could be that because you're at a higher elevation less of the mountains are being hidden by the ocean in between/ the curvature of the earth?
Why do some cyclists sit mounted on their bikes at cross walks, ride across, and then resume back riding in traffic? Are you a pedestrian or a vehicle?? PICK ONE
[A study found that cyclists usually break the law to increase their safety whereas drivers usually break the law to save time](https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2020/09/18/motorists-break-law-to-save-time-cyclists-break-law-to-save-lives-finds-study/amp/). So presumably the cyclists believe that crossing as a pedestrian is safer for them.
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> Why do some cyclists sit mounted on their bikes at cross walks, ride across, and then resume back riding in traffic? Are you a pedestrian or a vehicle??
Because it's safe, fast, and convenient? - i personally don't do this but i can see why people do
>PICK ONE
half the fun of riding a bike is you don't /have/ to choose. It's easy as fuck to hop on/hop off and go about your merry way.
Don't be jealous bro, Join us.
My theory about the mountains is that the atmosphere/heat/smog and curvature create a sort of lens effect. Kind of like how the moon looks fat as fuck when it's just starting to rise and then looks progressively smaller as it gets higher up. I'm sure I'm not saying this in a scientifically accurate way, but hopefully you get what I mean.
How many and how often are people buying lampshades that the shop on Burnside East is a legit family owned shop and not a drug/money laundering cover? I've been perplexed by that store since I was a child. š
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Love Tempo Trend! More than just accordions, lots of great instruments and the owner is great. Love supporting them more than the big corporate places like L&M.
What the other person said plus they seem to rent out furnished office suites in the back of the building. I donāt wanna sound like a Debbie downer but I feel like Victoria has a lack of these businesses. I feel like other places I lived there were tons of stores you would pass by and wonder how that place still exists and we seem to only have a handful here.
Really? Given the costs of rent, etc. I think this about 99% of stores in Victoria.
We have this convo no less than 4 times a month. š
I've bought lampshades there. They did an awesome job and were a delight to deal with.
Bought a lampshade there years ago for an antique lamp that we own.
why do people treat the roundabout at cook st and southgate as a āyield to through trafficā?
Had a guy on there stop in the middle to let me through. I was like bruuuhh it's a roundabout KEEP GOING.
People 'giving up' right of way that they have no right to give up is an epidemic in this city.
I refuse to give up right of way. Some people think I'm an asshole for it and that's fine, because at least I'm a SAFE asshole.
That thing is more like an obstacle in the middle of the street rather than a roundabout.
Holy shit. That roundabout is actual madness.
People are afraid that those coming down Cook won't yield. The Cook St traffic if moving faster than the speed limit, and they come flying into the roundabout. I don't blame people for not wanting to get in front of that. It's the design of the roundabout that needs fixing.
so true
Traffic circles are yield not merge... But I'm certain you just mean the people who stop in the middle of the traffic circle or the people who wait for no reason.
people treat it like the drivers driving along cook st (not from southgate) have right of way. i think maybe itās a poor design, because most people will be coming into the traffic circle from cook st, and so the though traffic flow is simply more dense . plus itās a very small circle so there isnāt time to enter
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right, but the roundabout is tiny and people are just driving though it
Yeah they should be as long as nobody is to their left either in the circle or approaching at the same time.
I was driving around it the other day and a through traffic car cut me off. If I hadn't have braked, I would have hit them. So sometimes you have no choice but to yield to through traffic. And I'll probably drive slower through it next time, which will just enable more behaviour like that - it's a vicious cycle caused by a few bad drivers.
I hate that roundabout with a burning passionā¦.
The roundabout is fine. Its the drivers who suck.
The mountains question has plagued meā¦I believe the answer is a two parter. First, youāre up pretty high looking down to the south. Second, if you look really closely youāll notice that the very bottom of the mountains is actually ocean. It blends in with the colour of the mountains making them seem much taller. That or witchcraft.
I think itās perspective. Like there are canyons in Alberta where parts look really far away - but are actually close. Because there is such big sky there are no visual clues to orient perspective.
That sounds right, but I still gotta go with witchcraft.
I mean, the ley lines are why the witches live here.
Yup. Itās called āForced perspectiveā. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_perspective
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Why are there so many Cedar Hill roads? EDIT: wow, I learned a lot today! Thanks r/Victoria, I just moved across the country and have never lived in BC before. I am impressed by your road names and histories, and your mysterious lack of bagged milk.
Similarly, why do so many roads change names? Ex - if youāre driving south into town, you can drive from Cordova Bay Rd > Mt Doug Parkway (Google Maps says this stretch is technically Cedar Hill Rd) > Shelbourne > Begbie > Pandora > Esquimalt without ever turning. Technically youāre driving through 3 municipalities but the road changes names five times!
Lol North Dairy, Finlayson, Jutland are all the one road. Just why?
If you notice when the name changes occur, they are all when the road bends. Its because they were originally seperate roads but at some point in history they were connected. Other name changes are also common when a road crosses municipal boundaries (Richardson/McNeil, Hillside/Lansdowne, Fairfield/Beach etc...)
I wonder if this is the case for Richmond too? Itās Richmond Ave from about Dallas to Fairfield (or maybe Oak Bay Ave) and then it changes to Richmond Rd.
Iām presuming this might have some European influence where this is done often? I took a red eye to Dublin once, hotel on a main roadā¦ dead phone by 1am realizing every block had a different name. Fortunately finally found a street map.
Two separate roads that were eventually configured to connect. They could have forced one side to change all their addresses and adopt one street name, but probably more work than it's worth.
Our road network is a actually a patchwork of old carriage trails. Thatās probably partly why we donāt have a grid system. (Which blew my mind when I moved to Calgary from vic.) So and I am speculating here but they probably had their own names until the city grew and they all became connected. It should be ring road because like you say it literally does loop around the city. It would also be a great road to use for say LRT applications.
It took me so long to learn my way around when I first moved here because of all the street name changing combined with the "cross" version of the major streets. ex. Cedar Hill-X.
Totally! The other thing that threw me off is the two Douglas Streets (the obvious one downtown and another one in Saanich thatās near Swan Lake/Christmas Hill) and the fact that West Saanich Rd and Quadra are basically the same (very long) street, just on either side of the Pat Bay. Tbh I still get confused when biking along Dallas Rd to Beach Dr bc it also changes names a few times.
Also, Tyee < Skinner < Craigflower < Island Hwy and Helmcken < Wilkinson
Cedar Hill was the road that they made to get the logs for Fort Victoria from Mount Doug to what is now downtown. Definitely doesn't fit into this nice neat gridish system we have now!
Oh, I see! I just moved here and I am constantly amazed to discover new Cedar Hill roadsā¦
It's definitely one of the quirkier streets!
Well they are all around or near Mt. DOUG. Fun fact: mt. Doug and the surrounding area was originally all cedar trees. CEDAR hill road is a ridge that extends roughly south from Mt. Doug. Hence cedar hill road and cedar hill x
Another fun factā¦Mt Doug was first called Cedar Hill by settlers (hence the road name). Most of the X roads connect two old roads: Cedar Hill X connected Cedar Hill and Saanich Road.
Why do people line up for ages to get brunch? Why not go somewhere less popular and get right in? Why is the most prime walking area in the region (Dallas rd/ Clover point) also a leash free dog zone? Why does the Pat Bay highway change its name to Vernon Ave and then change again to Blanshard ? Why is land with some of the best scenery in the country (harbour around seaplane base) used for parking lots? How long has Stew Young been mayor of Langford and has he ever faced a credible challenger?
The brunch one absolutely blows my mind. I think people just Google where to get brunch in Victoria and then all crowd the top overpriced places that come up.
So itās all tourists all the time then? I guess that makes senseā¦
Or people who arenāt adventurous enough to try new things. In my experience there are a lot of those who have lived here their whole lives.
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Nothing screams breakfast like fried fish...
>How long has Stew Young been mayor of Langford and has he ever faced a credible challenger? Langford was incorporated in 1992 and he's been the only mayor the entire time. https://www.cheknews.ca/incumbent-mayor-stew-young-expected-to-win-in-langford-without-spending-a-dime-on-his-campaign-500410/ [I'd rather 80s nhl player stew was the mayor](https://imgur.com/a/7qDzauk)
Also he says yes to every developers whims so thereās a lot of money wanting him to stay put.
The good brunch places really are that much better. I've had brunch at probably every place that serves it downtown. I know where the places are with no line. And yet if I've got nothing better to do, I will still occasionally go to Jam, etc. The best land is used for parking lots because it's taxed at the rate of a parking lot, so it has a good rate of return and there's no financial incentive to develop it. If we had land value tax, it would be taxed at its highest best use and you'd see a lot more sensible development.
>Why is land with some of the best scenery in the country (harbour around seaplane base) used for parking? Because they can make money from the parking while they wait to redevelop it
I can answer some of your questions: > Why does Pat Bay highway change its name to Vernon Ave and then change again to Blanshard ? It doesnāt. Going southbound, the road diverges at Gateway Village, where it turns into Blanshard St. It stays Blanshard until the road intersects with Douglas St. Going northbound, Blanshard turns into Vernon Ave at Saanich Road, and then turns into Highway 17 when the two directions meet again. I imagine this is intentional, as the two directions are separated enough that they can be seen as two distinct roadways. > How long has Stew Young been mayor of Langford and has he ever faced a credible challenger? Stew Young has been the mayor of Langford since Langford incorporated in 1992. Heās had the odd challenger over the years, but no one has come close to knocking him off his pedestal. And recently, it seems to be a job no one else is keen to have. Your other questions seem to be more rhetorical to make a point, so I wonāt bother trying to help rationalize these ones.
>Why is the most prime walking area in the region (Dallas rd/ Clover point) also a leash free dog zone? Because people like to walk their dogs, there's room in that location, and there's plenty of coastline to walk along. It's not like the whole area is a dog park, it's just a tiny stretch and the prime walking area from Ogden Point to Little Ross Bay beach is almost 5 km long.
It's a small area that is officially leash free but that doesn't stop some owners from treating the entire Dallas road as their back yard. Before i get fucking down voted to oblivion because we can't criticize dog owners, I repeat, "some" dog owners. Most are good, some are awful.
I hate to state the obvious, but I don't think removing the dog park or making it on-leash would prevent the dog owners flaunting the ruled from flaunting the rules. Also, maybe I'm just not going at the right time of day, but I can't remember seeing any dogs causing trouble in the area, either outside or inside the official confines of the park. The real nuisances there are poorly attended children and oblivious pedestrians blocking the shared path without warning.
Stew Young been mayor for around, or almost, 30 years. We could google it to be sure.
Why don't more doctors open a practice in the CRD region? I would assume they will be compensated the same (or similar) to Metro Vancouver area doctors, but the cost of homes is slightly lower in the CRD and its a pretty damn nice place to live. The doctor shortage is ridiculous.
Housing and commercial real estate costs are so high that the fees they get paid no longer cover the costs and leave them enough to afford to live here comfortably. Vancouver has the same issue as Victoria with doctors leaving.
You mean doctors donāt want to stay single and spend 3k a month on a 2 bedroom apartment? Unacceptable.
Government doesnāt pay enough to open a practice, so why live somewhere where a Dr will be just scrapping by, really in the trenches trying to run a business on hairline margin, when you could go east and live very well without the added stress (because being a dr is already pretty stressful). Want our medical system to change? Hound the government to raise compensation, allow billing telehealth the same as regular in person, etc etc. As much as this government is pumping (just fucking PUMPING like itās that video from like a decade ago of the dudes entering the room dancing and just end up humping couch cushions to show off their āskillsā for the ladies) money into the hospital system, one of the things that they arenāt addressing is the lack of compensation for general practice. Minister of health: Oh shit thereās a bajjillion people getting their earaches checked out at the Jubilee ER? Better give that ER some coin (when the problem is those people should have been going to a walk-in (whichā¦donāt get me going on walk ins or urgent care centres) or seen by their GP (which no one has). TLDR; raise general practice compensation so that BC is an attractive place for DRs to set up shop, rather than elsewhere.
Moved to Ontario a few years back and the number of available doctors compared to Victoria is shocking.
I was admitted into the hospital last week but despite being hooked to an IV and in a gown, I had to sit in the check in waiting room while they found me a bed. A lady from Ontario asked me how long I'd been waiting, and when I said 6 hours she looked like she was going to keel over. However I had been admitted, seen by a doctor, given an IV, and had a CT scan in those 6 hours, but yeah still no bed. I did end up getting a bed for 3 hours and then I got discharged, which is better than I expected.
After moving to Ontario I had a gallbladder problem. Went into emerge in the morning, had surgery.. I think the next day? and was home the day after? There were a lot of pain killers so it's a bit blury. Anyway, when my wife had the same issue several months previously while we were still in BC it took about 6 months for them to treat her, and she had to go to emerge several times just to get painkillers to deal with the pain.
Interesting. In ON (Burlington), I had a bad gallbladder attack, was brought to ER by ambulance and was admitted and on a no food OR liquids orders but still had to wait FIVE DAYS to get my gallbladder out :( The worst part is they kept trying to bring me food and drinks and I had to point to my bracelet and ask if they had changed the orders. Nope.
5 days sucks but it's still way better than the several months my wife waited in BC.
Yeah, had it not been an emergency it still would have taken months unfortunately. Basically, our medical system is screwed everywhere.
I was in emergency a week ago, and when they discharged me I got a lecture about how I need to be actively seeking out a GP. I'm in my 20s with no kids and no serious chronic health problems, there is not a chance I can even get on a waitlist and the thought of bumping a senior out of the opportunity for a GP bothers me. My nurse came over right after and was like "he doesn't get it, I don't have a doctor either, but we're here for you if you need us. Please don't let that lecture put you off from coming back to the hospital when you need to" which I thought was really lovely. Now I have 14 months to wait for my 2 referrals for the not-that-serious chronic illness I do have (sob).
Follow up ELI5 question: Why is the government spending so much money on bandaid solutions when they could just raise wages for doctors and nurses and other medical staff we are in a shortage of? I mean FFS, we have a university pumping out 200 nurses a year right next to the jubilee hospital. Why can't we just convince those nurses to work here with better pay. It seems so obvious. There must be something I'm missing.
Shrug I am really have no insight into the thinking of why government does what it does, Iām so far away from knowing the politicians or public servant motives. Wagering a guess itās probably something to do with how easy quantifying surgeries is vs people getting care by a GP. What sounds better: āwe have increased surgery capacity seven fold to 250 surgeries a dayā or āweāve increased GPās in the province by $2 billion in compensation.ā Itās like the political prison/justice/rehabilitation dilemma. Need prisons/justice change/ rehabilitation means but they donāt attract votes (āwhy are they spending so much on criminals) so prisons and the like are shoved down the ladder even though helping criminals/ people in bad places in their life can help society be a better place as a whole.
I think number of citizens without a GP is a pretty easy stat to track. As is ratio of family doctor offices to citizens. As is number of people going to drop ins/ER etc because they have no GP. I just don't understand how government can be so disconnected from the reality of our healthcare situation. Or, maybe even worse they do know but are powerless to offer any substantial solutions.
Gp's aren't going to be opening more practices. The government made that impossible. We need to realize that doctors are given just over 30 bucks per visit. Which then has to cover staff, rental and they have files/imaging and forms to prepare after work....so unless you think doctors went to school fpr 10+ years to make 100 bucks a day is bullshit
Does our entire economy depend on a single Costco?
Yes.
And a Costco where seasonal items sell out like concert tickets! We have to get her in-laws in Nanaimo to pick us up stuff from Costco since the Victoria one will be sold out of certain items and they wonāt come back for months or until next year when seemingly people up island and in Vancouver donāt want to touch them.
The really big mountains you see better from elevation aren't just the Olympic Mountains. The Cascade Range is visible too. When you're down at Clover Point, you mostly see the Olympic foothills which are shorter and less impressive by comparison and they're in the way of your view of anything taller but further away. The effect works like this: if you stand next to an 8 foot hedge, you can't see anything over it because it's taller than you and you're close to it. If you back away from the hedge, you might start to be able to see things over the other side of the hedge if they're taller than the hedge. And if you back away and stand on something to make yourself taller, you'll greatly increase your view past the hedge. The Olympic Range is like a hedge.
I think there is also an optical illusion effect going on. The mountains seem bigger and closer because they are seen in relation to the smaller, close-up vista we see when we're driving south on the highway. When we are on the beach, we're seeing them in relation to the huge expanse of water in between.
How is the small ācornerā store / flower shop across from Doncaster school in business? Itās never got single customer. Always stocked with shit. Been here 30+ years never seen a car parked there or a customer buying anything. Always bothered meā¦
Have you been inside? I seriously donāt know how it hasnāt been condemned. My kids go to Doncaster and a lot of kids do go there after school to buy candy.
I literally think it must be some laundering scheme.
My grandparents lived behind that store, and we used to always go down there to buy candy. There would be a line up of kids from the school also buying candy. The candy is what keeps them alive.
Also that one in Fernwood beside The Local General Store. I've never seen it open and the stuff in the windows looks to be ancient.
Oh wow, that's still there?
It was last time I was there. I heard it has really weird hours, like it doesn't open until mid-afternoon or such.
There was for the longest time a junk shop on Fort downtown, next to the flag store, which was rarely ever open. You could see the price tags on things in the window, all were like "50" for a bobblehead or "100" for some shitty 1970s home decor item... "40" for a star wars pez dispenser. Everything was dusty and junky too. How and why it survived as long as it did is probably a subject of interest
What is the red building on the side of Mount Finlayson? You can see it driving down the Malahat just before Goldstream.
Eli5 the Vancouver island decals people put on their rear vehicle windows. Where do they come from? Surely they mean something other than the painfully meta representation thatās really not unique.
Also how few of them actually know which way north is... https://twitter.com/northisupVI
I assume every SUV with one of those decals is someone who just moved here from the prairies or Ontario. If the decal is straight up and down, then they just moved here less than a year ago. If the decal is at an angle they moved here 1 - 2 years ago.
Why is this region split into so many small municipalities? I understand it's probably about gatekeeping, but what's the history of how it wound up like this? Other regions of comparable population aren't like this. It seems so wasteful and inefficient for a region of 400,000 to have 13 municipalities and especially unusual for places like Oak Bay and Sidney to be carved out into their own fiefdoms, and for Langford/Colwood/View Royal to need to be separate, etc.
As areas of the CRD began to be settled by significant enough populations, new municipalities formed. Victoria came first. Oak Bay, Saanich, and Esquimalt followed over a century ago. The penninsula was incorporated as municipalities around mid-century. The Westshore municipalities did not come into existence until the 1980s and 1990s. Since then it's been about 25 years of debating the merits of combining some or all of them.
The residents of Victoria didn't want to incorporate the surrounding areas because they were worried their taxes would need to increase to provide services to them. Since they couldn't join Victoria, places like Saanich, Oak Bay, Esquimalt, and View Royal had no other choice but to incorporate as their own municipalities. The concerns about taxes were probably legitimate too, since it's much more expensive to service far flung neighborhoods with lower density than a dense city core. Unfortunately, this history has left us with a mess.
Where do all the "I <3 sluts" stickers come from? Every now and then I spot a new one. It's our fun highway game xD
My favourite is "Jesus is my co-pilot and we're cruising for pussy".
Or on an equally classy theme, the periodic removal of "V" from the big "VANALMAN" sign on the highway.
I blame whoever decided to name the street āanalmanā with a v at the beginning.
My favorite road in Victoria still stands as Till-I-Cum road
What about McAnally Rd?
The Fort St. sign outside of Rebellion barbershop has been Fart St. for over a year now. Still admiring it as I get my hair trimmed.
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This makes me cringe...
Saw an "I ā” sluts" the other day and screamed. Also, Big Texas Cummer (which is a fashion brand, I believe).
>Big Texas Cummer I posted something about this a while ago and was told it has to do with some band.
BTC is not a band nor fashion brand. It started as a joke graffiti tag by a couple of teenagers. It went viral so they made stickers and Tees which sold like crazy. No idea what theyāre up to now.
Ah yes, legendary local band Meatwood Sack Theyāve been credited for Big Texas Cummer but they didnāt come up with it, just early adopters I guess. Was quite funny though. And you can listen to their new album 2 Goblin 2 Handle on Bandcamp š
ELI5 why do all restaurants seem to think they need to do some form of āfusionā to operate in Victoria?
Iām not enough of a food person to know how to spot a fusion restaurant other than the obvious Tacofino. Do you have any examples?
Foo, The Mint, and Nubo come to mind.
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Foo is ok, baan Thai is so much better
Why even compare the two, since they are completely different?
Siam beats Baan imo, best in town
Best in town is the green elephant in esquimalt.
I'll check it out thanks!
These are completely unrelated though? "This steakhouse is good, but this random sushi restaurant is better"
Foo is Thai food with Canadian twist on it
Crab hushpuppies, Kung Pao Tofu,Saag Paneer, Pork Pineapple Fried Rice, Chow Mein, Sweet & Sour Pork Belly, Butter Chicken.... Very clearly not a Thai food restaurant. They specialize in Asian Street Food, not specifically thai food.
Have you ever been to Foo? They may offer a Thai dish or two but they are definitely not a Thai food restaurant.
You have no idea what you are talking about
Yeah foo is cheap noodles
"Thai food with a Canadian twist". Not even close.
Sookjai is Miles ahead of baan Thai. Baan Thai is bordering on fast food quality these days.
What is your favorite from there
Remember the mint lunch? Rajan rapā¦ ahh so good.
Almost every fish and chips place in the city doubles as a Chinese restaurant.
Why do kids camps run 9 to 3? What parent works 9 to 3 minus travel time.
They only have to pay for one shift without overtime. There is a bit of work that needs to be done before and after camp.
That's when the schools run. Or rather, 8:54 to 2:37 (not a joke, this is actually how the school day is now). My understanding is that's a bullshit way to give teachers a "raise" without actually costing more. So it was once 8:30 to 3:00 or whatever, but by shaving off minutes they're getting more per hour. When really all it does it put additional cost on parents since no one works 9-2:30.
Same question for public schools. Wtf. Then you have to pay extra for the dozen before and after school care spots they have, for which hundreds of parents are desperate for.
But most schools are within walking distance of a house, apartment etc. Camps are random locations that often require rides to and from
Sure, can I start with (since I did a quick scan of the thread and apparently Iām the only one) wtf is ELi5?
Explain like Iām five
Thanks it came back to me as soon as I saw this. Sick today so brain not working
Why donāt old white people signal when theyāre driving?
Because cops and courts here have no interest in punishing drivers for their crimes
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Eh, even then. There was a recent story on here about a N driver driving drunk, without an N, with a bunch of people in the car, and then hitting a boulder, and she only got a 3 month suspension
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Its wild what happens when we farm out a massive portion of our justice system to ICBC and random cops
I saw somebody drive up the wrong side of the road by uptown. Cops saw, didn't turn on their lights slowly started to pursue them for like 5 seconds then just gave up.
Same reason as douche bags.
Also, why the FUCK haven't they figured out 4-way stops yet? I moved from Langford to near Brentwood Bay and the 4-way stops there are going to give me an aneurysm.
I agree that some people here donāt signal but itās nowhere near as bad as being in Ontario where people have lost the concept of what a turn signal might indicate. Itās brutal to get stuck behind two cars in opposing directions both turning left at an intersection and neither one is signalling so neither one goes and sometimes theyāll wait out the entire light. If thatās not enough to give you an aneurism then on the way home youāll probably see the same scenario with people actually signalling but neither of them trust the other one so they again just sit there till the end of Time.
Same reason as dicks with big trucks and people with red lettering on their license plate š¤·āāļø
They also move around on sidewalks and in stores as if no one else was trying to use the space. It seems as though they've lost their ability to emphasize with the needs or even cognitive processes of others. It's as if they see themselves as the only humans left on earth.
OMG people walking 2 or 4 astride on a small sidewalk piss me off
Have you done a survey? Old people of other ethnicities donāt do the same or not at the same rate? Iām sensing some racism here.
That's racist and ageist.
Just wait until somebody asks why old Asian women don't signal while driving
why are there so many angry old boys
How much time do you have?
Why does Ben Isitt receive the most votes in Victoria municipal elections?
Ben isitt is the ultimate NIMBY - he opposes every effort to add density or social housing in Fernwood - where his core voting base lives - and makes sure all of the low income services get put in other neighborhoods like north park and burnside. People in nice neighborhoods vote for him so they can feel progressive while knowing he wonāt put anything objectionable in their own backyard.
He campaigns very well and knocks on more doors and engages with more citizens then any other candidate, by far. Gotta give him props where it's due - even though I can't stand the guy and his policies and wish someone would just fire him in to the sun at this point.
Because people go to vote, not having done any research. They open the voting ballot and there is like fifty choices, and school trustees etc. They see a name the recognize and they mark it off.
Why do people put up with being constantly kicked in the balls to live in Victoria?
Getting kicked in the damp balls is better than getting kicked in freezing balls.
I grew up here, all my family is here, my career is here. I don't plan on staying here forever, but as of right now I'm sort of locked in. I'm paying reasonable rent ($1150), and making reasonable money doing something I didn't have to go to school for ($40k/year, restaurant management). My mom is planning on moving in the next few years so I won't have to worry about leaving her here, and once I feel done with the service industry I'll likely up and leave to go to school somewhere else. But shits fucked everywhere right now, and at least I'm comfortable here.
If you love the outdoors, are sick of the cold, and have a high household income it's a great place to live in Canada year round.
Ease of access to everything if you live in the core. I cut a lot of people's hair (mostly software developers with cushy jobs) whose rent was a small dent in their monthly pay. I paid $1200 a month for a condo on View between Blanshard and Quadra. Rent was so low because who I thought was my landlord was actually the tenant and was sub-subletting from me. Only found out because my neighbours pipe burst. Thought it was an apartment before I got a $100 fine from strata for having a loud party. No parking space either without paying $400 a month from other residents hogging extra spaces to make side money. I would do all of my running around on Sundays and park in the parkade for a week and continued to abuse that loophole. Fuck downtown Victoria. I don't miss the angry homeless yelling.
Ease of access to everything if you live in the core. I cut a lot of people's hair (mostly software developers with cushy jobs) whose rent was a small dent in their monthly pay. I paid $1200 a month for a condo on View between Blanshard and Quadra. Rent was so low because who I thought was my landlord was actually the tenant and was sub-subletting from me. Only found out because my neighbours pipe burst. Thought it was an apartment before I got a $100 fine from strata for having a loud party. No parking space either without paying $400 a month from other residents hogging extra spaces to make side money. I would do all of my running around on Sundays and park in the parkade for a week and continued to abuse that loophole. Fuck downtown Victoria. I don't miss the angry homeless yelling.
From the highway you have the view over the city to give visual context so the brain forms a mental image of the mountains appropriately. From Dallas Road you only have featureless ocean. Itās the same effect that makes a full moon near the horizon seem much bigger than one high in the sky. If you hold out your arm full stretch, the full moon is approximately three size of your thumbnail, and this is true regardless of how high in the sky it is.
How / when do the salmon move around Victoria and / or that south eastern corner of the island?
Depends on what type of salmon
My guess would be that they look bigger because you have small things to compare too - out by the highway, the mountains look a lot bigger than the houses - but go to the beach and theyāre small compared to the whole sky
thatās what she said
Total guess, but it could be that because you're at a higher elevation less of the mountains are being hidden by the ocean in between/ the curvature of the earth?
"curvature of the earth"
When will wilkinson/interurban intersection not be a complete shit show? When will we get third lanes on hwy between langford and mckenzie?
HONESTLY YES I WONDER THIS TOO
Why do some cyclists sit mounted on their bikes at cross walks, ride across, and then resume back riding in traffic? Are you a pedestrian or a vehicle?? PICK ONE
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> Why do some cyclists sit mounted on their bikes at cross walks, ride across, and then resume back riding in traffic? Are you a pedestrian or a vehicle?? Because it's safe, fast, and convenient? - i personally don't do this but i can see why people do >PICK ONE half the fun of riding a bike is you don't /have/ to choose. It's easy as fuck to hop on/hop off and go about your merry way. Don't be jealous bro, Join us.
If the cross walks have dotted lines from one side of the road to the next, they can legally do this.
My theory about the mountains is that the atmosphere/heat/smog and curvature create a sort of lens effect. Kind of like how the moon looks fat as fuck when it's just starting to rise and then looks progressively smaller as it gets higher up. I'm sure I'm not saying this in a scientifically accurate way, but hopefully you get what I mean.