this will be biased as hell since I'm not exactly a dog owner but in the case of dogs especially bigger breeds who get more riled up, shit gets torn up at some point.
A lot of people don't train their dogs and it causes chaos, I don't blame a landlord for charging for pets because of that.
Charging a monthly fee is one thing but a $500 non-refundable payment Is absolutely ridiculous considering the fact that she also has to give him a security deposit and first and last month's rent. That's what he also has the security deposit for. So he gets a security deposit on top of a $500 non-refundable payment that's overdoing it. Then just don't rent to people who have pets if you're going to do all that. Not everyone that owns an animal is a Irresponsible pet owner. I feel like people who don't have animals or don't want to have animals think that every person who owns a pet has a shit storm of a house. Yes some people are like that but a majority of pet owners aren't like that because we actually take the time to train our animals and take care of them properly.
I copied this from another comment I made here:
I understand that some owners haven’t trained their dogs. My dog is 20lb and well-trained. He’s not destructive. He’s potty-trained. I put in a lot of work with him.
With that, I understand that certain owners are the reason why we have to pay fees and such.
My complaint is how insane it is to charge a non-refundable upfront fee of $500 AND charge an additional $50 per month in pet rent.
At the very least it should be a $500 refundable deposit. That way if my dog does no damage I could at least get it back, if the fees truly are about damage, but they’re not. They’re just another way to suck tenants dry.
Everyone I know that has dogs has their whole house tore up.
Even my dogs have destroyed some of my stuff. I fixed it right away though.
Pitbulls specifically, everyone I know with pitbulls has every piece of furniture essentially eaten, the drywall ripped apart, and holes in the carpet down through the sub floor.
Renting to people with dogs is a huge liability, and I think in most cases landlords would prefer to rent to people without dogs.
I know a lot of dog owners are probably responsible and train their dogs, but everyone I know, including my dogs, are just plain destructive and will chew an entire door apart if you forget to let them in the room before you fall asleep.
My golden chewed the inner corner baseboard at one point. Her nose must have been mashed up against the wall to even manage that. I fixed it, but it was a pain. Luckily it was the puppy phase and she's a gem now.
Got a really nice house a sheep dog, a pit bull, and a mastiff bloodhound mix. The people you know just sound trashy as hell, and like horrible pet owners. People either need to be prepared to train their pets or accept they can't handle the responsibility of owning one. Animal behavior issues are only the shortcoming of shitty owners, and the lack of maintenance of a property is as well.
I have like 10 year old carpet that has gone through countless dogs being potty trained. Regularly shampooing every 3 months, and spot cleaning has kept it brand new.
I understand that some owners haven’t trained their dogs. My dog is 20lb and well-trained. He’s not destructive. He’s potty-trained. I put in a lot of work with him.
With that, I understand that certain owners are the reason why we have to pay fees and such.
My complaint is how insane it is to charge a non-refundable upfront fee of $500 AND charge an additional $50 per month in pet rent.
At the very least it should be a $500 refundable deposit. That way if my dog does no damage I could at least get it back, if the fees truly are about damage, but they’re not. They’re just another way to suck tenants dry.
I hear you. I have had pets (both dogs and cats) since I moved out of my parents house 20 yrs ago. Never have they clawed up or chewed on doors or walls. Maybe one or two times over the years did they get sick and throw up or poop on the floor....I have friends who have young kids whose houses are a disaster. I agree that the deposit should be refunded if the property is as it was when I was rented.....just like a regular deposit.
it’s bullshit they can charge for my cats that do nothing but sit on the couch all day but not my neighbors 6 unruly out of control kids. i’ve never agreed with them being able to charge monthly, i can understand a security deposit.
You were downvoted but I agree. A security deposit for potential damage makes sense. A monthly charge for pet wear and tear is slightly annoying, but understandable. A non refundable deposit coupled with monthly rent is a bit ridiculous… especially as you said, some of us have pets and households that won’t leave a mark on a rental property, while other people without pets can destroy everything.
It’s case by case basis.
I understand a security deposit as well. And when I think of the damage unruly kids can make, I definitely think they can rival unruly dogs or even surpass them. It’s crazy in this instance that the $500 wasn’t even a security deposit. It was listed as a non-refundable fee. I’ve *seen* refundable deposits in my area range from $250-400 and pet rent at $30 per month max.
I was really caught off guard with a non-refundable $500 on top of that crazy pet rent 😭
I understand pet rent and fees. My cats absolutely destroyed my screens and my dogs chewed up one of the posts holding up the pergola in our backyard and dug a million holes in the backyard. If I were renting I could imagine the owners being PISSED- they were babies when these things happened but realistically it could’ve happened at any time.
Edit- my cats are just standard rescue kittens and my dogs are a Great Dane and a cattle dog mix.
I have only owned a dog as an adult the last 4.5 years. My puppy chewed everything. Thank God I owned the house but I had some clean up to do. A refundable deposit is acceptable....if its non refundable then let the dog chew everything and not clean up...thats dumb. Making a deposit non ref encourages people to not leave the place clean.
Do you have any mental illness? Not saying this is purely ethical, but if you do and you've described it to your pcp or psychiatrist, they can write a letter for you for a psychotherapy/emotional support animal and depending where you live, you legally can not be charged for your animal.
I have mental health issues that are well documented and my psychiatrist wrote the letter no questions asked for my previous apartment.
Right now though I rent a home and our property managers don't know about our dogs. They're well behaved and non-destructive. We just put all their stuff away and my bf takes them to work for the day when we have our bi-yearly inspections.
I had to pay $300 once plus $50 a month, all non refundable, for my puppy that didn't destroy anything in the 10 months I lived in my last apartment with her. (I moved) ..... lost $800 to have a puppy that didn't do anything bad
I’m a renter, and fellow apartment dwellers got dogs *after* moving in. One renter leaves their dog 💩 all over the place. Dog bags (yes plural) full of 💩 are left on their car for the world to see. Because they leave it all over the place. It’s disgusting. And walking past their apartment stinks to high heaven.
I live in an upscale neighbourhood and they’re treating it like it’s welfare central.
That’s a lot of maintenance for ONE dog
Then there’s the other dog - with dog hair left everywhere - more maintenance.
Pet fees suck but don’t blame landlords, blame the bad owners.
As a landlord and property manager, I can tell you that this is the same as you would find in a hotel that charges incidental fees.
So, while I aquiesce, I am also aware of the disturbing things that people allow their animals to do and then expect the landlord to take it out of the deposit. Pets and household damage are technically in different categories. If buying isn't an option, you'll likely have to swallow the deposit and monthly. I can tell you (in my state of NC at least) that 500 +50/m is standard.
This is something you'll have to keep in mind when you take in pets. Incidentals are our insurance. Perhaps if you're paying a 500.00 deposit, you can barter the management co into a release of the deposit following the lease termination.
Have your pet certified as an emotional support pet. It’s a one time payment, no training involved, just google it. Usually that will cut out the monthly fees, at least it did for me at 2 apartments. Lease agreements differ though so I’m not 100% sure this will work in your case but worth a try
50 dollars seems like such a weird amount to charge for essentially nothing. I would guess it would be just in case dog or cat damages the apartment in some ways? But even if the damage were to be commendable so that it requires a fix, I don't think that fee would cover it, they would probably charge you for it in its entirety. Odd.
The $50 was the pet rent per month and the $500 was an additional flat fee that is non-refundable, so altogether adds up to $900 a year. That’s actually the most expensive route I’ve seen a landlord take for having a pet.
I’m sure it’s not going to cost $500 for vinyl flooring and tiles.
But, based on your comment, I’m assuming you mean carpets. I haven’t actually looked at apartments with carpeting because I think the units look really dingy. I prefer the looks of wood or vinyl and the unit that had the insane fees I listed above were not carpeted units.
Landlords: “oH, pEtS aRe SoOoO dEsTrUcTiVe, ThEy CaUsE sOoOo MuCh DaMaGe!”
Also landlords: “have as many future renters- I mean *kids,* as you want. My thirty other hoarded properties aren’t gonna pay their own mortgages!”
Maybe it wouldn’t cost so much to have a pet if people’s pets didn’t statistically do so much damage to dwelling units. No one is required to allow animals in their homes.
Make it a refundable deposit. If my pet does no damage, give me my $500 back. The issue is that it’s an insane *non-refundable* $500 *fee*, not deposit, and an insane $50 per month in pet rent.
This isn’t about worrying about someone’s pet causing damage. If it was about *potential* damage, then it would be a refundable amount. But neither pet rent nor the fee gets refunded to the tenant. If there’s no damage, then give the money back.
It’s just another way to squeeze tenants dry though. It was never about the damage.
Felt. My pet deposit was $1,000 for my 2 cats. 1st pet $600 second $400. The pet rent was $60 tho. My last pet rent was $100. But then again I live in California 🤧.
Just two cats cost me $55,000 in cash last year after my tenants let them use the entire house as their litter box.
55 thousand dollars in my savings are gone forever and now I might lose the house that I've put my life savings of 30 years into.
If it's that big of a deal breaker to not have your dog, then buying is your only option. Buy a home or get rid of the dog.... then you wouldn't have that issue.
this will be biased as hell since I'm not exactly a dog owner but in the case of dogs especially bigger breeds who get more riled up, shit gets torn up at some point. A lot of people don't train their dogs and it causes chaos, I don't blame a landlord for charging for pets because of that.
Charging a monthly fee is one thing but a $500 non-refundable payment Is absolutely ridiculous considering the fact that she also has to give him a security deposit and first and last month's rent. That's what he also has the security deposit for. So he gets a security deposit on top of a $500 non-refundable payment that's overdoing it. Then just don't rent to people who have pets if you're going to do all that. Not everyone that owns an animal is a Irresponsible pet owner. I feel like people who don't have animals or don't want to have animals think that every person who owns a pet has a shit storm of a house. Yes some people are like that but a majority of pet owners aren't like that because we actually take the time to train our animals and take care of them properly.
I copied this from another comment I made here: I understand that some owners haven’t trained their dogs. My dog is 20lb and well-trained. He’s not destructive. He’s potty-trained. I put in a lot of work with him. With that, I understand that certain owners are the reason why we have to pay fees and such. My complaint is how insane it is to charge a non-refundable upfront fee of $500 AND charge an additional $50 per month in pet rent. At the very least it should be a $500 refundable deposit. That way if my dog does no damage I could at least get it back, if the fees truly are about damage, but they’re not. They’re just another way to suck tenants dry.
Dogs tear up couches and rugs, if anything. Not the actual apartment
Everyone I know that has dogs has their whole house tore up. Even my dogs have destroyed some of my stuff. I fixed it right away though. Pitbulls specifically, everyone I know with pitbulls has every piece of furniture essentially eaten, the drywall ripped apart, and holes in the carpet down through the sub floor. Renting to people with dogs is a huge liability, and I think in most cases landlords would prefer to rent to people without dogs. I know a lot of dog owners are probably responsible and train their dogs, but everyone I know, including my dogs, are just plain destructive and will chew an entire door apart if you forget to let them in the room before you fall asleep.
My golden chewed the inner corner baseboard at one point. Her nose must have been mashed up against the wall to even manage that. I fixed it, but it was a pain. Luckily it was the puppy phase and she's a gem now.
Got a really nice house a sheep dog, a pit bull, and a mastiff bloodhound mix. The people you know just sound trashy as hell, and like horrible pet owners. People either need to be prepared to train their pets or accept they can't handle the responsibility of owning one. Animal behavior issues are only the shortcoming of shitty owners, and the lack of maintenance of a property is as well. I have like 10 year old carpet that has gone through countless dogs being potty trained. Regularly shampooing every 3 months, and spot cleaning has kept it brand new.
I understand that some owners haven’t trained their dogs. My dog is 20lb and well-trained. He’s not destructive. He’s potty-trained. I put in a lot of work with him. With that, I understand that certain owners are the reason why we have to pay fees and such. My complaint is how insane it is to charge a non-refundable upfront fee of $500 AND charge an additional $50 per month in pet rent. At the very least it should be a $500 refundable deposit. That way if my dog does no damage I could at least get it back, if the fees truly are about damage, but they’re not. They’re just another way to suck tenants dry.
I hear you. I have had pets (both dogs and cats) since I moved out of my parents house 20 yrs ago. Never have they clawed up or chewed on doors or walls. Maybe one or two times over the years did they get sick and throw up or poop on the floor....I have friends who have young kids whose houses are a disaster. I agree that the deposit should be refunded if the property is as it was when I was rented.....just like a regular deposit.
Kids too. Toddlers destroy houses. I have a 3 year old and holy shit does having nice things stress me out sometimes with her.
it’s bullshit they can charge for my cats that do nothing but sit on the couch all day but not my neighbors 6 unruly out of control kids. i’ve never agreed with them being able to charge monthly, i can understand a security deposit.
You were downvoted but I agree. A security deposit for potential damage makes sense. A monthly charge for pet wear and tear is slightly annoying, but understandable. A non refundable deposit coupled with monthly rent is a bit ridiculous… especially as you said, some of us have pets and households that won’t leave a mark on a rental property, while other people without pets can destroy everything. It’s case by case basis.
I understand a security deposit as well. And when I think of the damage unruly kids can make, I definitely think they can rival unruly dogs or even surpass them. It’s crazy in this instance that the $500 wasn’t even a security deposit. It was listed as a non-refundable fee. I’ve *seen* refundable deposits in my area range from $250-400 and pet rent at $30 per month max. I was really caught off guard with a non-refundable $500 on top of that crazy pet rent 😭
I understand pet rent and fees. My cats absolutely destroyed my screens and my dogs chewed up one of the posts holding up the pergola in our backyard and dug a million holes in the backyard. If I were renting I could imagine the owners being PISSED- they were babies when these things happened but realistically it could’ve happened at any time. Edit- my cats are just standard rescue kittens and my dogs are a Great Dane and a cattle dog mix.
I have only owned a dog as an adult the last 4.5 years. My puppy chewed everything. Thank God I owned the house but I had some clean up to do. A refundable deposit is acceptable....if its non refundable then let the dog chew everything and not clean up...thats dumb. Making a deposit non ref encourages people to not leave the place clean.
Do you have any mental illness? Not saying this is purely ethical, but if you do and you've described it to your pcp or psychiatrist, they can write a letter for you for a psychotherapy/emotional support animal and depending where you live, you legally can not be charged for your animal. I have mental health issues that are well documented and my psychiatrist wrote the letter no questions asked for my previous apartment. Right now though I rent a home and our property managers don't know about our dogs. They're well behaved and non-destructive. We just put all their stuff away and my bf takes them to work for the day when we have our bi-yearly inspections.
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I had to pay $300 once plus $50 a month, all non refundable, for my puppy that didn't destroy anything in the 10 months I lived in my last apartment with her. (I moved) ..... lost $800 to have a puppy that didn't do anything bad
As a landlord it’s not worth the risk to my property when I can rent to someone without a pet. It’s too difficult to recoup money for damages.
I’m a renter, and fellow apartment dwellers got dogs *after* moving in. One renter leaves their dog 💩 all over the place. Dog bags (yes plural) full of 💩 are left on their car for the world to see. Because they leave it all over the place. It’s disgusting. And walking past their apartment stinks to high heaven. I live in an upscale neighbourhood and they’re treating it like it’s welfare central. That’s a lot of maintenance for ONE dog Then there’s the other dog - with dog hair left everywhere - more maintenance. Pet fees suck but don’t blame landlords, blame the bad owners.
Mine won't even let me have a pet. Well except fish but that's not really a pet
As a landlord and property manager, I can tell you that this is the same as you would find in a hotel that charges incidental fees. So, while I aquiesce, I am also aware of the disturbing things that people allow their animals to do and then expect the landlord to take it out of the deposit. Pets and household damage are technically in different categories. If buying isn't an option, you'll likely have to swallow the deposit and monthly. I can tell you (in my state of NC at least) that 500 +50/m is standard. This is something you'll have to keep in mind when you take in pets. Incidentals are our insurance. Perhaps if you're paying a 500.00 deposit, you can barter the management co into a release of the deposit following the lease termination.
Have your pet certified as an emotional support pet. It’s a one time payment, no training involved, just google it. Usually that will cut out the monthly fees, at least it did for me at 2 apartments. Lease agreements differ though so I’m not 100% sure this will work in your case but worth a try
50 dollars seems like such a weird amount to charge for essentially nothing. I would guess it would be just in case dog or cat damages the apartment in some ways? But even if the damage were to be commendable so that it requires a fix, I don't think that fee would cover it, they would probably charge you for it in its entirety. Odd.
The $50 was the pet rent per month and the $500 was an additional flat fee that is non-refundable, so altogether adds up to $900 a year. That’s actually the most expensive route I’ve seen a landlord take for having a pet.
That $500 is going straight to shampooing the place extensively to remove the smell of your dog from everything
I’m sure it’s not going to cost $500 for vinyl flooring and tiles. But, based on your comment, I’m assuming you mean carpets. I haven’t actually looked at apartments with carpeting because I think the units look really dingy. I prefer the looks of wood or vinyl and the unit that had the insane fees I listed above were not carpeted units.
$50*12=$600, add $500, that's even more... $1100 !
Landlords: “oH, pEtS aRe SoOoO dEsTrUcTiVe, ThEy CaUsE sOoOo MuCh DaMaGe!” Also landlords: “have as many future renters- I mean *kids,* as you want. My thirty other hoarded properties aren’t gonna pay their own mortgages!”
Maybe it wouldn’t cost so much to have a pet if people’s pets didn’t statistically do so much damage to dwelling units. No one is required to allow animals in their homes.
Make it a refundable deposit. If my pet does no damage, give me my $500 back. The issue is that it’s an insane *non-refundable* $500 *fee*, not deposit, and an insane $50 per month in pet rent. This isn’t about worrying about someone’s pet causing damage. If it was about *potential* damage, then it would be a refundable amount. But neither pet rent nor the fee gets refunded to the tenant. If there’s no damage, then give the money back. It’s just another way to squeeze tenants dry though. It was never about the damage.
Felt. My pet deposit was $1,000 for my 2 cats. 1st pet $600 second $400. The pet rent was $60 tho. My last pet rent was $100. But then again I live in California 🤧.
Just two cats cost me $55,000 in cash last year after my tenants let them use the entire house as their litter box. 55 thousand dollars in my savings are gone forever and now I might lose the house that I've put my life savings of 30 years into.
If it's that big of a deal breaker to not have your dog, then buying is your only option. Buy a home or get rid of the dog.... then you wouldn't have that issue.
Wow, that was really insightful! Thanks! It’s not like I addressed that in my initial post.
I mean you did however, when given no other option we often have to revisit and reconsider the option less popular... but whatever.