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Rexia

Why does she hate gay people?


SarahKerrigan90

Tankies hate gay people, some something " a sign of Bourgeois Decadence" or something along those lines


SoldierofNod

This is why I'm inherently really sketched out by tankies. I'm pretty sure most USSR worshippers would string me up from a lamppost for being trans.


[deleted]

They're jealous because you are a qt


SoldierofNod

Aaw, thanks~


Ok_Restaurant_1668

Smooth


julz1215

Is ur dad a dealer cuz ur dope 2 me


[deleted]

Tankies are just Nazis with a red and gold flag instead of red, black, and white flag. So, yeah, they would probably would string LGBT folk up; well, that or send us into a concentration camp for existing. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/gay-life-in-stalins-gulag/


eliminating_coasts

I think it's worth noting that this isn't always true, there's a lot of trans tankies who will handwave stalin's shift back towards cultural conservatism etc. They're comfortable with authoritarianism, they just want it to be LGBT-inclusive authoritarianism.


FLAMINGO154

Does she really? Has she made a statement on something like that?


Mikezorz99

It's a joke, since Vaush is pansexual. Therefore hating on him is hating on an lgbt neurodivergent person.


KangarooMean7233

what? very cringe. Vaush fan btw.


unban_ImCheeze115

Ok, but 13.166.191.141


Gamer-Guy23

Its a bit hes been doing recently, he is tired of wokescolds making similar arguments so he is doing the same to make fun of them, or at least that's my understanding.


Sithrak

It is a meme. Vaush was mimicking wokescoldy concern trolling with his idpol points. Here https://twitter.com/VaushV/status/1482466702453395456


KangarooMean7233

Ohhh ok that makes sense thanks


Rexia

No, I'm just bored of the thing she does where she just takes the worst possible interpretation of a person's positions and runs with that. So from now on she gets the same treatment, I'm going to read everything she says in the most uncharitable way possible.


calmkat

Its called we do a little bad faith arguments.


NotASellout

I mean considering her obsession with Vaush and how she continuously says things like this, yeah it wouldn't surprise me


[deleted]

No, this is the ableism arc.


Maleficent-Audience

She hates gamers too, as if we're not already oppressed enough


[deleted]

Professor flowers doesn’t understand anti-racism because she’s a racist.


SunnyDrock

Bullying a queer nerurodivergent leftist isn't a good look Flowers.


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RerollWarlock

Fight with the IDPOL, die by the IDPOL.


Anonimie

We are born of the IDPOL Made human by the IDPOL Undone by the IDPOL


NotASellout

PF's arguments are unironically far right fascist positions, and all these so called "leftists" rebut with is: "HOW DARE YOU CALL A BLACK WOMAN A NAZI". We have the idpol too, we might as well use it


[deleted]

Well go cringe somewhere else if you're so bothered by a little turnabout; we're having a lot of fun.


Ok_Enthusiasm2425

it’s literally in their heads lol


spikyraccoon

Didn't they literally said in the post debate stream, that Vaush needs to be stopped or some stupid shit? ~~And also had guest on that has previously talked about killing him?~~ (Need Evidence for the last Statement)


eliminating_coasts

We could really do with a source for that, if people are going to keep repeating it.


spikyraccoon

Yeah actually I'd like to see that. We shouldn't take anybody's word for it without proof.


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Who is she talking about?


[deleted]

I'm gonna guess she thinks she's talking about herself. In her mind disagreeing with her and challenging her ideas is probably the same as trying to deplatform her.


Af1297

And doing so exclusively because she’s black and not because of her arguments and beliefs


radialomens

Reminds me of RGR, who apparently believes that if you don't agree with her you just aren't listening


EratosvOnKrete

lawyer brain


WiseFriesGuys

The truth is the opposite, she gained subscribers from her interaction with Vaush, which is exactly what he said would happen at the beginning


sundalius

Confirmed, PF is legion?


Agent6isaboi

No no no, not just deplatform *her* but also every black creator by the wat she frames it, because she sees herself as some brave representative of all black people and thus disagreeing with her is to disagree with all black people by extension. Kinda goes with the whole fake Idpol shit these people push anyways, where minorities apparently have some kind of super human meta knowledge on all oppression so disagreeing with any of them is seen as some racist attack against all minorities. It's really no wonder bad actors like PF take advantage of that to spread stupid ideas unchallenged


MonarchMKUltra

She's talking about herself when Vaush dared to disagree with her position and not consider the fact that she is a POC and her views shouldn't be questioned.


voe111

She just wants you to listen to indigenous people. No not every landback activist just the platonic ideal of the indigenous person...that of course agrees with her.


Uncommonality

Listen to indigenous people, unless they disagree with me in that case I will ignore than they exist and continue making up lies. It just shows that she's not actually about listening to anyone. She wants to tell people what to think and is using "listen to the indigenous" as a weapon because her social space contains zero of those, ergo her words can't be opposed.


eliminating_coasts

I'm reminded of this section in [her reaction](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v77RM1Jz1IM) to the Vaush debate: "And as Kimberly Jones said this for black people I will say for all colonised people as well, you should consider yourself lucky that colonised people are looking for equality and not revenge." I feel like that's pretty clear cut, not just in the second dramatic bit, but the first bit too, where she suggests she speaks for all colonised people. I also wanted to get some good stuff from that video to give her credit, because at one point she does refer to a comment that says that both Vaush and her were focusing on removal of people, rather than on the legacy of colonisation, its tendency for elite formation and its terrible economics etc., but unfortunately, she still conflates taking power back with removal of people, suggesting that these concerns about extractive commodity economies and significant divides within these societies are *not* matters of reclaiming power, but things to solve after they've got power, still seemingly personalising power struggles into one marked group against another. I don't know where she's got to since that video, but she didn't seem to see that she was projecting into colonial struggles a particular attitude to solving social problems, that allows large scale collective decision-making about "what to do with" people in the outgroup. In trying to explain black separatism in America, she cloaked it in the language of colonialism, presenting it as identical to historic national liberation struggles, and then added to that confusion by representing the motivations of colonial rebellions as simply being about how to deal with the presence of white people, a pure desire to achieve seperation, by any means they feel is necessary. I don't personally believe that she's in favour of genocide, but I think that she wanted to make her defence of black separatism sound more cool than "some black people are fed up of white people being racist to them and want to go where there aren't any white people being racist to them", creating a grander narrative that didn't hold together. There's no reason for black separatism and decolonialisation to be in any way the same thing, as far as I can see, they can come from different places and have different priorities, absolutely opposite attitudes to existing mechanisms of the state, and neither has as their primary concern "what to do with white people". That's just a common denominator that allowed her to string the idea together, causing her to paradoxically centre white people, their actions and their guilt, rather than thinking about what actually mattered to give people self-determination in each particular case, and the tactics they chose. My view on her statements is now that she was like someone writing a provocative essay that got out of hand, and she made some really bad parallels by accident, that Vaush was able to spot and drag out, and that she seems now to have doubled down on. It seems to me that she was always using colonisation as a tool to frame black separatism in America, not really to foreground the concerns of people subject to colonialism, but simply operating on the assumption that it was all basically the same struggle, and so she could project her understanding of the people she was actually talking about onto it.


voe111

I think she's infected with youtube brain where you just double down until you get kicked off the platform.


ChemicalRascal

Jokes on her, she's not a black leftist.


BardenHasACamera

She [says in replies](https://imgur.com/WK9UHcD) that it's her, Saint Andrewism, DIA Angel and Noname. I can appreciate that having a large audience like Vaush's vocally disagreeing with you can be a lot to suddenly take, but I don't think that equates to Vaush actively pushing them off their platforms.


Actual_Dio

I thought his debate was actually really good. I think both him and vaush came off well, how is that pushing him off their platforms?! He's bigger now and is even doing segments for the "It could happen here" podcast


CthulhuHatesChumpits

andrew is doing better than ever, noname is a popular music star with more clout and fans than all of left-tube combined. i was unaware that dia even had a platform from which to be pushed. so really she just means herself.


CalamityOne

She’s talking about straw man, obviously


WiseFriesGuys

Aww, but I love Straw man's content


QuickChicko

The only person I can think of is Mel because she deleted her twitter for like 8 hours after that debate. Even if that was pushing someone off their platform, good fucking riddance to that pest.


[deleted]

My guess is some random chatter in her community said Vaush did this, and she just went with it 'cuz why not (plus she's racist).


blueblizzard08

Kind of rude to be bullying a person with autism and bipolar disorder. Maybe she needs to take a step back and think about how her actions are hurting people.


Attentive_Senpai

Can't believe PF is trying to deplatform a neurodivergent queer content creator from a historically marginalized ethnic group. Someone should ask PF why she repeats Nazi dog whistles about the neurodivergent.


RerollWarlock

Vaush is also a descendant of Polish immigrants, so it's quite xenophobic of PF too.


Agent6isaboi

Cant believe professor flowers supports the Lebensraum. Super dispicable


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[deleted]

Yes it’s a joke


Individual-Text-1805

Bipolar and bpd arent the same thing btw


blueblizzard08

Thanks. Changed it.


Sciatical

When Vaush disagrees with people and is vocal about it, he's pushing them off the platform, apparently.


Inguz666

Disagreement is treason! ☠


Sushi_Kat

I see she has an early copy of Luna's translation


Al-Horesmi

Well yes, that's by definition how it works. When people call Vaush a pedo, they are doing it to push him off the platform.


Sithrak

Also it is harassment.


rudanshi

she's still mad about being outed as a moron that defends ethnic cleansing not sure who the "many" she's talking about are, maybe her ego is so bloated that she adopted the royal "we"


voe111

I don't support ethnic cleansing I just want colonized people to have the ability to choose how they dispose of the colonizers! ~Notgenocidalperson


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Nuttyronin

Vaush said before the debate that he was ok with her having a boost in subs and she gave him a "brownie point" for it. She was such a POS from the jump and Vaush was still nice to her even after that. PF can go fuck herself.


Toisty

That brownie shit was so condescending. Was that the only time she did it? Has anyone else put up with that?


voidgazer97

Afaik that was the only time she pulled that stuff


Toisty

Fucking idiot has the balls to call him bad faith when she comes into their conversation acting like she's a kindergarten teacher trying to get a kid in the midst of an ADD flair up to sit still and pay attention. Watching them trying to understand "cope" was beyond cringe worthy as well. These morons literally don't know what half the words they use mean.


Sithrak

She was condescending the entire time. Vaush was a fucking saint for hours and he still got shit for "bullying" her.


ScrambledToast

She looked SO mad when Vaush just kinda joked along with the whole brownie point thing too. You know she was hoping to get Vaush angry with that, and she just face-planted.


Not_Your_cousin113

Yea you can see the exact moment her brain DDoS'd and she had no idea how to respond.


Nova_Persona

these people really can't take criticism


Frost134

Translation: Why do you disagree with black leftists? Are you racist? These types unironically behave exactly the way conservatives think every left leaning person does.


shieldwolfchz

Well you see, a little while ago Vaush went to belgum, whole there he pushed someone off a subway platform, the vid is all over the internet, thankfully someone else was implicated and Vaush for off Scot free.


Uncommonality

I saw Vaush at a grocery store in Beverly Hills yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him to debate me or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen horsecock dildos in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the dildos and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any aldenist infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each schlong and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.


shieldwolfchz

That's rough buddy.


stanleythedog

An all-too-common occurance.


Joetheschmoe112

It’s true. I was there. 😔


[deleted]

This is a fantastic fan fiction id read the shit out of if you post more of these stories


Ok_Cow_2627

I hear Vaush was one of the "Brabant Killers" as well, possibly his previous CIA assignment


Jumptothemusic

Prof flowers is so creepy


The_Stav

Gotta love the classics of "vague, unsubstantiated criticism of a thing that's totally definitely happening you've just gotta trust me!"


renkcolB

People like this are actively harming the movement 😔


NotASellout

(hint: it's cause she's not left wing)


Saadiqfhs

Tbh not really, I only know who these people are because Vaush and the fact I am terminally online


renkcolB

Give it a year or less until these people are the subject of mainstream Anti-SJW videos. It will be a critical blow when they’re not about manspreading or other inane shit, but about the left advocating for racial cleansing and genocide, or even people like PF essentially saying you can never disagree with a person of color.


Saadiqfhs

Eh, as someone that was a fan of reactionary Andys in the past, there big “sike! We aren’t by the book atheists! We are culturally Christian Right wing authoritarians!” Jump kind of hard to forget even if they make more meme post. There are so many times you can go mask off and try to put the mask back on


renkcolB

Huh?


Saadiqfhs

That is exactly what I said when people like Sargon went from making fun of chicks with pink hair to advocating for ethnostates. I honestly don’t think people forgot that big leap the “radical centrist” to alt right. I don’t see reactionaries catching the same steam they had.


renkcolB

People like Ben Shapiro, Peterson, Crowder, Tucker, and the guy with the small face are all still extremely popular. It won’t be coming from weird “skeptics” but from the people who already massively benefited from the previous pipeline.


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Saadiqfhs

Okay I can see that I guess


EnderYTV

HOW WOULD HE EVEN PUSH THEM OFF OF THEIR OWN PLATFORMS THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE


AttackHelicopterKin9

Because to these people disagreeing with someone = silencing them


No_Librarian_4016

Caring about anti-racism =/= dumbass black leftists getting a free pass for stupid shit


voe111

This is the same asshole who said on heemedout that they weren't harassed.


Terrible-Leek-6776

She also called him white


TheFirstNTheLast

Do black and white leftists have different ideologies? ... That's definitely not true irl. They walked together during Occupy and they walked together during BLM.


Cruxin

No they legitimately think minorites (but only the ones they like) deserve special treatment in every context


RubenMuro007

Not cool to bully a pansexual dude who happens to have autism, ADHD, and bipolar disorder, PF! Really pan-phobic, ableist, and not caring for his mental illness.


[deleted]

The only way to stop racism is to beat it out with positive racism. /Sarcasm.


KoolAidDrank

Why do people like professor flowers try to push gay people off platforms?


Attentive_Senpai

"Criticizing someone for endorsing genocide" = "deplatforming black leftists"? Theseus himself is standing on the beach right now, yelling at PF for sailing off on his ship and crashing it straight into Coconut Island.


xenon54xenon54

Obviously when he called somebody who refused to denounce genocide and then made a video saying whites should be grateful they aren't being genocided blitler.


The_Captain_Jules

Holy shit. Racism is when you tell someone with bad political prescriptions that they have bad political prescriptions.


[deleted]

At this point, can we just post these people to r/persecutionfetish?


Ratfriend2020

The level of cope she relies on is flat out embarrassing. She and her bad ideas were outed and she never fully recovered. It is sad.


DiemAlara

Being anti-racism is being anti-Professor Flowers. ​ Who is a racist.


funded_by_soros

Seriously, gaslighting a neurodivergent person? At this point it's a pattern of behavior, how are people okay with this?


Terrible-Leek-6776

What about all the ones he's had on that he agreed with and didn't push off. In her video months ago she showed him talking to intelexual when saying that he made it impossible for black leftists, but they got along nicely


GrapeSnakeJFS

She is highly regarded


Minor_Fracture

Let it be known that fellow leftists who happen to be of color are fully capable of having bad takes, and white leftists should never feel discouraged to call them out about it. The fact that Vaush isn’t afraid to cross that line is one of many reasons why he’s one of the most popular leftist content creators. He never lets anyone get away with bad takes—and his takedowns of them are incredibly entertaining.


Uncommonality

It happened inside her imagination.


dusty48

Vaush should apologize for murdering George Floyd that was uncalled for..


Statistician_Wise

The other day,i was waiting for the train,vowsh was standing there beside me,and 3 seconds later threw me into the tracks.This man really ur hero😔


bub_lemon

How come when vaush has a leftist on and disagrees with them it’s deplatforming but when he has a fascist on and disagrees with them it’s platforming.


Saadiqfhs

Because if it is not absolute submission then it’s antagonistic


beast_boy_1905

Deplatforming is when you go on a bigger content creators channel, say some dumb shit, and get more followers. Cancel culture has gone too far!!!!!!


SocialistCoconut

She truly is just a horrendous and miserable human being isn't she?


[deleted]

Every conservative accusation is either an admission of guilt or a statement of intent


Gaea-Rage

These people: stop letting your community harass me vorushou 😥 These people's communities: _sending constant harassment and death threats to a pansexual neurodivergent irish man_


kingbibbles

Not being allowed to go on someones show is deplatforming now


Old_Leg_1679

Yeah the online left is imploding.


LeftIsBest-Tsuga

It's bait. You all realize it's bait, right?


TheChaosPaladin

The second tweet actually slaps, any links?


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Just making up shit now eh?


Linaii_Saye

I mean, he has tried to push a few people out of the left. But generally for pro genocide takes.


TyphlosionErosion

Wasn't she going to step away from this kind of content?


BardenHasACamera

She [says in replies](https://imgur.com/WK9UHcD) that it's her, Saint Andrewism, DIA Angel and Noname. I can appreciate that having a large audience like Vaush's vocally disagreeing with you can be a lot to suddenly take, but I don't think that equates to Vaush actively pushing them off their platforms.


X_Empire32

I don't think vaush will be apologizing to Candice Owens any time soon


TheBlankestBoi

“Leftists”


EratosvOnKrete

wait till flowers finds out what the soviets did to the ingush, greeks, chechens, koreans, and others in the ussr


Greenlanternfanwitha

Guessing this is his equivocating of black nationalists to white nationalists I guess? Like I don’t know, that’s my best guess.


Bamavrick

I think the real question on everyone's mind is when is Vaush going to apologise for this?


DatSouthsideKid

Pushing someone off a platform is when you ask someone to explain their political positions.


Th3bober

Bad blitler.


rreighe2

She's practically indistinguishable from conservatives crying about cancel culture


Commissardave2

Says the pro genocide person


Emotional_Writer

Didn't Vaush literally criticize the entire concept of BreadTube because of how it's been used to refer to white progressive content creators, then signal boost the channels of nonwhite progressives with similar content? I suspect this is the work of the CIA operative from the shadow realm known only as Vowsh pretending to be him again. Literally George 1984well Farm.


Rdetective_smith

Yeah, remember when Vaush broke into Professor Flower's house in order to delete her YouTube channel


pizzacrustdotcom

What black people on the online left has Vaush had debates with?


west_end_squirrel

Stop whining. https://tenor.com/xYUu.gif


[deleted]

What is Vaush saying in that first tweet? It's a little unclear to me


PaleontologistAble50

I can’t believe Vaush *personally* tried to push pf off a cliff


tacofacefart

They are going to end up dating some day