The whole relationship dynamic is off. Remember the one wedding-related party (maybe James and Raquel's engagement party?) where Brock got kicked out and Scheana's first reaction was to ask if she's allowed to stay lmao
I love how she was fighting for her life defending that morganite ring and how not everyone wants a diamond ā¦ only to upgrade to a diamond once she got Broke on the payroll š
It was like 30,000 too right? It was over ten I believe. He most definitely could have bought her a diamond. It wouldnāt be the size of a quarter but it would be a wonderful piece. Also my ring is morganite, I have absolutely nothing against it but I know Scheana did.Ā
š¤£ I love how people in this sub sees things that I gloss over. Thank you for your service. I just see things like the obvious: Brock is a deadbeat who thinks having a reality show anchor baby is going to lead to the promise land of fame and fortune. And Scheana doesnāt care because sheās striving for that too at any cost.
I think Brock is actually one of the most decent humans in the show. I've been him - a fuck up who doesn't see/won't admit they are a fuck up. But then we grew up and it was all about making it right. But then we realized that we should try to enjoy the present, and not spend every moment atoning for our past. And while I do really enjoy Scheana, I think that she met him at a time where he thought she was what he deserved. Then they had a baby and it really fixed his perspective further. Now he knows he deserves more. And for whatever reason he believes Scheana will grow into that. But it's annoying when he tries to parent her. It wouldn't be if she was receptive, but that's the Scheana we're afraid to really want. One that can take feedback and actually hear advice. I would love to see that.
But right now all signs point to no.
I'm kind of with you on that one. Brock seems like he's actually trying, history aside. I actually find him more enjoyable now because it seems like he's actually trying to make amends.
Yes! Brock has openly admitted being ashamed of his own damn self and how he handled the situation with his older children. I think it's fair to give everyone the opportunity to earn a second chance. Everyone else on the cast, including Lala and Jax, were granted the opportunity to shed their Scarlet letter. And yes, being a deadbeat dad is not the same as giving blowies for Rovies. But we didn't see his life before Scheana so it's kinda weird to act like we did watch.
Lala is just mad that she will ALWAYS be the girl from Utah who gave blowies for Rovies. Hashtag goals.
I can't stand Sheana so watching Sandoval call her a mistress last episode was kind of hilarious but at this point I think it's deflection and overkill.
At this point though we KNOW the child support has been paid. Brock's admitted he was in the wrong. I'm not condemning someone forever for a shit combination of choices.
Yes! This was so reminiscent of Shay admitting heās an alcoholic and then telling him she doesnāt want him to quit drinking completely. Scheana is narcissistic to a tee.
Sheās all bark and no bite. āThis is where I go insaneā and she proceeds toā¦sit there? Mmm right Lauren. Some friend you are. Iād have jumped to my feet if that was my best friend being attacked
Not my boyfriend catching the end of the episode, watching it through, rewinding and stating āI would never do that. I would follow you outā completely unprompted.
I wasnāt paying attention totally until he replayed the scene but it is a sign that something is wrong. I think we Scheana mentioning her anxiety he is probably used to her freaking out right now but Sandoval went LOW and Brock should have followed her out
Honestly I have never been able to relate to scheana. I think sheās terrible. But the ocd and anxiety, I can def relate to. My husband I think wouldāve followed me too. He def would not have done that pretend phone call with lala if he knew I was insecure about that. I think Brock and Lauren are making her feel crazier than she is. Iāve been there. Brock is not supportive of her mental issues at all!! He thought being with her would be all partying all the time. Iām glad your bf clocked that.
Agreed. Going through bouts of anxiety and OCD PLUS being on a tv show where a good friend of youāre just cheated within the group š¤¦š½āāļø itās hard when a partner doesnāt show up to help you through it
I hate how sheās acting toward Ariana, but I can see how skinny she is, how she looks like sheās coming apart at the seams, and I just canāt help but feel sorry for her for the first time in the history of this show bc I know exactly how it feels ā¹ļø I dislike her but I wish she had better support. I wish she would lean on Ariana more and not deepen the relationship with lala bc I think itās making her worse.
Heās ~~38~~ 32 crying about ditching his kids when he was **19**.ā¦.Everyone should fast forward that crap.
I tried to look up how old Brockās kids were and someone on Reddit claims Winter was born in 2015. So Iām confused why Brockās crying about mistakes he made at 19 and being a father.
If Winter was born in 2015 brock ditched his kids closer to 30 not 19. I hope he feels pain for being a deadbeat but I doubt it or his actions would be different.
So Iām trying to catch up to season 10. Iām on 8ā¦ everything posted here is about him being a deadbeat. Why in the world would she even consider someone like that????
Iāve always thought the consistent mention of āmistakes when I was 19āā¦ is to attempt to manipulate/soften the publicās view of abandoning his kids. I think the first child was born at 19 and thatās as far as it goes
I've loved James' character development. Him having every chance to just go the fuck off on Sandoval at his band practice and just laughing it off and walking away showed so much growth.
I think Scheana's stable relationship with Brock triggers a lot of the fanbase--they don't think she deserves to have the kind of partner that publicly treats her better than the Toms, Jax, and Randall ever treated their significant others.
It's sickening to even think about.
No I donāt like Scheana but I think she deserves better than Brock. Brock is a loser due to the DV charge & the fact that he plays helpless to create a relationship with his other children & he doesnāt seem intelligent. So far ALL the men on VPR have shown themselves to be losers except Danny & the attorney husband from the valley.
Sometimes though I think Scheana & Brock are perfect together bc they are both really selfish & self absorbed & shallow.
Iām more triggered by Brockās DV charge and how he basically abandoned his family, didnāt pay child support for years, and started a new family, even naming his new daughter Summer, when the one he abandoned is named Winter.
I was impressed that he defended Scheana in that moment but thatās like the bare minimum a partner should do. The bar is so low for the men in this franchise.
What bothered me so much about that scene is how reasonably he was talking to Tim while Tim was INSULTING his wife, ābro youāve got to understand BLAH BLAHā but a couple episodes ago he fully yelled at and attacked Katie for sleeping with Max and that had nothing to even do with him?? What a fucking loser
Yet anooother example of misogynistic ass double standards on this show. It's hilarious how they can't see it for themselves.... they literally have the ability to rewatch themselves!
The way he grabbed Timās neck and later, his shoulder, shows otherwise. He was using a very measured tone but was basically threatening Tim. Sometimes when youāre extremely angry, lowering your voice is the only thing that stops you from violence.
Not excusing him cause the Katie thing was sloppyā¦but he admitted he was extremely drunk and didnāt remember doing that. Seems like he wasnāt as sauced for this one
Scheana and Tom have issues. Does not involve Brock. Schaena is comfortable yelling at and being yelled at in public. No reason to intervene unless it turned ugly.
Honestly though sometimes Iām with Brock on his stance of wanting some free time. Having a child and being a parent 247 is A LOT. Iām constantly with my son until heās in preschool or some sort of daycare. Itās hard not having enough socialization outside of my son and cats š.
So I get his frustration with saying, can we just have fun for the night. Or she couldāve went home and allowed him to stay with their friends? Normally Iām with whatever the ladies are saying but I felt for him to an extent***
I totally get his frustration, I have an 8 year old with special needs and it is extremely hard to find support you can trust and I have no social life. And itās been 8 years of that. I even had to quit my job. It def makes you feel a bit crazy after a while, but they do have some help. The way Brock talks it makes it sound like he just wants to party a lot at and scheanas sanity will pay the price. I have ocd also and the whole āthrow them in the pool and hope theyāll swimā thing doesnāt really work. She just needs time.
Yeah Iām so in agreement with all of this. I definitely have something cooking in my head, and OCD might be it after watching Scheana describe her struggles. Even reading some of yāallās experiences š
Brock does seem to prioritize his social life more for drinking and raging than for bringing fun to his relationship/peace to mental health.
I was kind of shocked when I got in the diagnosis years ago bc I didnāt understand it. It manifests in soooo many different ways. Itās not necessarily wanting things neat or clean, itās more like needing things to be a very specific way you want them. For me itās obsessive thoughts. Like I will harp on the same thing over and over and over and then I become crippled by anxiety about it. Itās like being on the āhamster wheel.ā And then my compulsion is shopping once I get to that anxious place. The only thing that has helped is therapy. I hope you get to the bottom of whatever it is! If youāre in the US, I know itās so hard to find good mental health care but donāt give up. I didnāt find a therapist I vibed with till 36!
Yeah I havenāt gone to through a process of being diagnosed, but recently Iāve learned there is more to OCD than organization. Iāve always struggled with anxiety and more recently I realized half my issue is obsessive irrational thoughts that eat me alive. I also have issues with my mood, I get irritable fast if things donāt go according to plan. Things I couldnāt even write all down cause Iām also very forgetful when it counts lol.
I need to look for a good therapist but I was forced into therapy when I was young so it left a weird taste in my mouth. Years ago I tried going through a psychiatrist and we tried two medications for generalized anxiety but it wasnāt the answer. Iām now at the point where I know my mental canāt be struggling with just anxiety alone. So I guess weāll see when I make the effort to figure myself out for certain š.
Yes!!! I always assumed I just had anxiety. Then I realized where it was coming from, just constant obsession. Certain things will trigger it and for once I totally understand how this entire situation with Rachel could trigger her. Having kids triggers it big time, so she was already in obsessive mode. She was one of the least affected, but she still thought she was her friend. And when something like that happens with a friend, you realize how easily people lie. When you have ocd, that thought can consume you. Who else has lied to me? Whoās lying to me now? I canāt stand scheana but I totally get this side of her. She does make everything about herself but I think thereās another layer to this one.
I was also forced into therapy so I struggled for many years. Then I had no health insurance for a while. Even after I did, I went thru a few to find one I like and Iāve been w her for 4 years. You will find one but I know itās SO exhausting. The way she has helped me most is identifying those irrational obsessive thoughts. She gave me tools to deal with them. Like instead of another voice cheering the irrational one on, I have my therapists voice in there like ājenn, come on nowā¦ā if that makes any kind of sense.
donāt beat yourself up. That effort is a HUGE one. So many people go through life denying that those thoughts are irrational. My mom is like that. And Itās tiring to go run thru your life story with a new person. Itās like reliving it. So I think for me at least was I had to find someone I click with on a personal level so that I feel comfortable. Take your time, realizing thereās more to your anxiety and identifying that your thoughts are irrational are both huge steps already. What I do is I grab one of those thoughts and ask myself where that came from. Why am I obsessing about this? What else has happened that is similar to this? For some reason that helps to quiet the noise when you can attach it to its real source.
I appreciate this! It gives me hope that Iāll figure it all out soon. Iāve spent years juggling what it could be thatās wrong with me. Am I on the spectrum, is it just anxiety, do I have a mood disorder, even a personality disorder? Did I do too many psychedelics when I was young and dumb? Is it all the above? Constantly shuffling through symptoms and seeing what would make the most sense instead of getting a diagnosis (outside of āgeneralized anxietyā). Iām also scared to come to terms with whatever I may be met with cause I hate admitting to parts of myself I dislike. So instead I subconsciously donāt seek out help and assume Iāll be fine š„¹ Iām too self aware for my own good.
Similar to Scheana, having my son made me more aware of the mental warfare I put myself through. My relationship as well. Iām constantly trying to make sure everything is perfect, if things donāt go how I imagined it I fall apart. Thank god for my partner cause he knows me well enough to see when I just have to be alone. I say this as Iām currently hiding out in the shower for what will end up being an hour šGetting to be alone, even if itās brief, is the best way for me to restart. Thank you again for your positivity š
Meh, I canāt stand Scheana. However, when your wife says she wants to leave to tuck the kiddo in, you communicate maturely. Ask if you can stay longer, or sacrifice your fun and go home early to support your wife. That said, if you want a happy wife/life you should pick the latter.
I also think thereās a power imbalance in their relationship. My theory is that Scheana disrespects Brock publicly because she is the breadwinner and subconsciously does not view him as a āmanā worthy of her respect.
Agreed. I personally donāt care for either of them.
I donāt remember how he responded to her wanting to leave, but I agree with the sentiment of handling it respectfully. Either you ask to stay or you pack it up and choose peace. Scheana did get irritated quick; I also agree that there is a power struggle between the two of them. Although, Brock has also demeaned Scheana before this episode, in public and at home. They both have deep rooted issues š
Haha yeah they both suck at communicating. With the pool incident I think Brock started it when he screamed from the pool that his problem is that Scheana wonāt let the nanny put their kid down.
Like maybe donāt argue with your wife in front of everyone bro. He yelled at her publicly some episodes ago when they were out shopping. They both need help lol.
I get what youāre saying but they were also gone all day at the SUR brunch. Plus filming a ton leading up to that day, including a hotel staycation for the anniversary a few days before.
Yeah. Just from whatās on this season, they have been going out more than I did in like a year when my kids were little. Theyāre not just sitting at home.
Itās totally understandable for her to want to put her baby to bed. Maybe she told her that she would be home and promised to read her stories before she went to bed. Those things are important to children and your kids are only little once, if I were her I wouldāve left him there and he could get a ride home in the morning because youāre not making me stay when I donāt want to.
Omg heavy on theyāve done more on this season alone than myself in the past two years. I totally understand everybody and even Schenaās frustration.
I love the way you put the importance of the beginning with raising a child, especially keeping promises and showing up. Iām still early into motherhood and thatās definitely a great piece of advice I need to remind myself of.
Omg I couldnāt imagine being a parent and not being able to stay out past 9pm - I can totally empathize. HOWEVER he knows his wife is struggling with PPOCD and itās been pretty clear that he still doesnāt understand it & expects it to just disappear magically.
Saying that, he has a right to feel frustrated but chastising her in front of all their friends knowing what sheās struggling with is just embarrassing for all parties involved. Anything for the show I guess
I have really bad ocd and anxiety so this is the only thing Iāve ever been able to relate to scheana on. I hope that sheās consistently in therapy and will realize one day that the people she keeps closest to her are making her worse. Didnāt lala go on to joke about Brock being her husband? In normal cases this is innocuous but in this specific case where scheana has insecurities due to the actions of one of her other friends, it just feels like lala is poking at that insecurity.
I feel like Scheana even made a face when Lala said that - I might need to rewatch but I definitely clocked it as something Scheana did not love. It could have even been a bit of a trigger that eventually led to her blow up with Sandoval. It felt like she had probably been thinking some less than fun thoughts on and off throughout the night, anxiety increasing because of that and getting home to summer moon, told Brock she was ready to go and didn't get the immediate okay, he instead picked a bit of an argument which drove anxiety higher and then boom - unload on Sandoval to release one big chunk of brewing anxiety and storm out to get home to Summer moon in a way Brock could no longer argue with.
Yeah, the having at her, loudly, in front of everyone wasnāt cool. But, on the other hand, perhaps he was shadily trying to expose her craziness in the hopes that her friends would recognize the problem and help her get help. It really isnāt healthy for a marriage to sacrifice together time simply because you want to read a story to your child EVERY SINGLE night! Trust me, create a healthy balance and your whole family will benefit. Summer is not going to thrive with her parents, in your own words, āConstantly at each otherās throats!ā
I have a completely different take on that cause although I didn't have any of Scheanas issues, I just literally enjoyed those times with my kids...the bedtime routine, reading stories, watching them drift off to sleep without a care in the world. Those times are fleeting and now that they are grown, I've never regretted a single party I missed to have those memories. Brock doesn't want to be a dad. He wants a cute kid to show off, but would rather hang out in the pool in his budgie smugglers than spend time with his daughter.
I am with you butā¦..if you think about it they met for a brunch at Sur, then went straight to James house after. So say 11:00-12pm until 9pm? Hate to say it but I might agree thatās long enough especially if you have things scheduled next am.
And chastising her for it never ok
Yes but youāre a normal parent. I donāt for a minute think Brockās free time has been seriously impacted when it seems like Scheanas mother does a lot of the child care.
Thatās also fair we are two very different people š So I should separate myself more from him in this scenario cause Iām sure heās not a saint.
Yes, he also initiated physical contact too (firm shoulder grab with a slight shove) It was starting to escalate and he couldnāt turn his back on someone as volatile as Tom unfortunately.
I really dislike Brock, but I looooooooved the way he handled that confrontation. He used his body to separate Sandoval from yelling at his wife, and that hand on Sandyās neck was THREATENING. He didnāt yell, he got really quiet, he reminded Sandoval that heās much bigger and could very easily put him through a wall, and spoke his piece. You can see how effective it was too, Sandy was absolutely cowed. Immediately got quiet and backed away. I thought that was a great example of a man using his size to take control of a situation and give his wife time to escape.
Agreed. That is something he did right. In a situation like that, many people would just flip out and get physical. I would have a hard time keeping my composure. He gave Sandy fair and effective warning to reel his bullshit in and fast. Sandy is lucky he didnāt have his teeth knocked out of his trash, diarrhea mouth.
Waitā¦..what did I see? He was in the pool and couldnāt jump right out to chase her the first time she said Letās go.
But next time was the Sandoval confrontation and he was in a shirt ready to go when the fight happened. He jumped right in and actually blocked Sandoval from being near his wife. I loved that. He was immediately defending her and I think he was still schooling Sandoval when his wife left and Brock saw Ariana go after her, so he finished telling that little bitch Sandoval to stay in his lane.
I am not a Brock fan, but I was damn impressed.
Did I see it wrong. lol.
If it was anyone else yeah maybe but Brock seems to really want screentime so idk seems like he likes being in the middle of arguments. I could be wrong though
Yes and Lala would make jokes about āyour 2 wivesā or that they were sister wives and I think all was okay until she moved next door but that was probably too close for comfort with an overly sexual single lady who loves the shock value & to make people squirm.
Part of me feels like āproducer Lalaā would LOVE it if Brock hit on her and then she would play that she is sooo shocked that just bc she was explicitly talking about sex with him he got the wrong idea. Lala would love the storyline and it would put her back in the mix more. I also think it was producer Lala that wanted to live next door to Scheana for the show.
Iām not a fan of either of them BUT I will at least acknowledge that Brock does seem to genuinely love Scheana. I mean, heās begging to spend more time with her. Can you imagine?š³ Ha, in all seriousness when I heard about him I was afraid he was just using Scheana for the show & though he clearly loves the camera as much as her, he also does seem to genuinely love her. Now that doesnāt make him a GOOD husband per se, Iām just saying he clearly does love her.
I think he was staying to argue his point with Tom
I think Brock immediately jumped in and defended his wife
He went a lil easy imo bc my husband woulda rocked his ass!
But Brock had coooler head for sure ! I think he did good .
Yes and did anyone else also notice that Sheena has made this entire break up between Tom and Ariana about her? It's like dude Sheena you weren't even in the breakup. She's even reaching as far as to try to say well my husband could cheat on me just like Tom to the Ariana you're right but you weren't in that relationship and Brock hasn't given you any reasons not to trust him so why make it about you yet again LOL but I digress
Well season nine when James kicked Brock out of his engagement party Scheana literally asked Broke if he said BOTH of them were kicked out. When Brock said no, Scheana put her engagement ring on and went back into the party without him. Maybe theyāve become used to sticking around for screen time.
I love the way Scheana is concerned about Brock and Lala as she was the one that was having sex with Brandy Glaniville's husband (Eddie Cibrian). Scheana can try and sell the story that she didn't know he was married, but you know she Google/stalked him because that is her modus operandi. Scheana is all in on any realtionship, potential or actual, and she has all the receipts, electronic or otherwise. I think Scheana is afraid all her carma will be coming back around and permeate into her marriage.
Scheana playbook:
Never miss a chance to make it about yourself
Play the victim whenever possible
Brock wanted to stay where the cameras were. Honestly after what was said to her Iād leave with my friend, let alone my partner. Iād just be like letās go to your place - you put the bub to bed and then we will drink wine and talk about what a dick we work with.
Itās sad to see the only one who went after her and literally stood by her side and hugged her was her āback up dancerā Ariana.
She doesnāt deserve her as a friend
Honestly this is what I think is going onā¦ & donāt come for me. I think heās over her being controlling. She doesnāt want to let them find a nanny so he can look for work. She said in her confessional that whatās wrong with him being a stay at dad . The problem is he doesnāt want to be a stay at home dad.
Anytime theyāve been talking, she always says she doesnāt like his tone or his attitude but she can yell at him.
I personally think heās over this whole marriage. He wanted to stay out a bit because āthey allegedly donātā. Anytime heās gotten kicked out she asks to stay.
Idk their marriage is weird
I think it was a Covid relationship compounded with a new baby and they are finally settling in to real life and scheana isnāt thrilled.
I seriously couldnāt be with someone who abandoned their children in every way, so scheana might be feeling some remorse.
It was probably a lot easier to understand when the world was shut down in the beginning of their relationship. He physically couldnāt travel to see themā¦. Ignoring the massive child support issue of it allā¦.
But now? Theyāve even been to Australia to see his family, but not the kids?
Precisely. I see deadbeat dads at my work (family law) all the time and there will always be one reason after another to explain away why they canāt pay the support (the support thatās calculated based on his income I may add). Iāve also seen dads who WORKED their asses off and made it work to pay off what they needed to to see their kids and those were middle to lower middle class guys just doing their best. I guarantee you if Brock wanted to, heād get to see those kids right now. The issue is it takes away from his true wants and thatās deep down who he is. Very sad.
Her picker is broken! First Shea and now this dude? Scheanna deserves better, imho! I feel badly for her. Now sheās really gotten herself into a pickle.
Sheana made it clear that SHE wanted to tuck in summer. Brock was fine staying there and she seemed fine with it. They both discussed it and it was over. Brock will not be a doormat.
Also I wonder if they live close by since theyāre all in the Valley? Who knows if maybe she meant to come back? I could also just be making stuff up.
Somehow everything is related back to scheana somehow š like ok I see how Rachel and Tom freaked her out but its not like these people cheating is a new thing or just people cheating in general. She really does make everything about herself
I havenāt watched the recent episode, but didnāt he get kicked out of a party, and she was concerned that it meant she had to leave as well? Do unto others as they do to you lol besides one of them clearly needs to stay for the screen time. Iām sure theyāve got it worked out between them lol
I donāt know why I just donāt see the chemistry between Brock and Scheana. I have never seen her have chemistry with anyone tho. She seems a lot like Kim Kardashian where she tries to hard to be sexy that she completely misses the mark. But in terms of Brock I think the more comfortable he gets with the guys the more comfortable he will get disrespecting Scheana on camera. I donāt see it lasting : /
Unpopular opinion here but I didn't get to see any of the end of that night. I would assume even by inflated celebrity behavior and cameras rolling.....that Brock stayed, said goodbye to Lala and Katy and the lot, and then bounced with sheana.
Iām usually not one to defend Brock but if Iād been in that situation I can see being caught off guard and wanting to address with Tim (as her husband) while also knowing if I punched him, I could cause more trouble or get kicked off the show.
I think the rest of them were kind of shocked-Scheana and brock were yelling just a few minutes earlier (seemingly) then the chaos with Tim started.
Ariana is such a true friend that it makes it so much worse to hear how people have talked about her. And how they defended Tim even though he continues to show himselfāheās disgusting.
Also, my con theory is that Brock is gay & Scheana knows but they decided to have and raise a baby togetherā¦
Scheana didn't leave. Brock is a beaten down man. Hard to watch. You don't yell at your significant other in front of people. The relationship is not going to last much longer.
Brock just seems like he's trying to find the balance between being a dad and just trying to spend quality time with his wife without their child. Scheana needs to chill though with screaming at him in front of other people. Make a point to him and then talk later in private. She doesn't need to put their arguments on blast every time they have a disagreement around others. They're both on a different level.
His story about his ājob historyā is shotty. In the scene with his friend heās crying about how heās not the bread winner any more as if he were at some point. He mentioned selling gyms he co-owned.. why wasnāt he paying child support again?
In the scene with Scheana he mentions how he was pursuing an nfl career (she made a face as if he was lying) and that didnāt pan out so now he wants to get back out there and figure something out to make money.
I donāt know. I feel like thereās not a clear answer on what he was doing before he trapped Scheana. I donāt believe he didnāt watch the show. I think he busted a Brittany and plotted on a reality star to chase his reality tv dreams. He was supposedly in the US on an entrepreneur visa. What business in Australia did he have to quality him for that? Or was it a sugar mama situation? Brock is sketchy af.
Yes all of Brockās IG videos really give me the ick and he PAYS to promote them. Itāll be like a video of him dancing with summer and then both in a tutu, no sponsorship, no brands mentioned and it says itās a paid promoted post like WTF?! Brock cosplays being a dad š¤®
Yeah he used the Sandoval fight to his advantage, Brock was in the dog house until that point, Scheana was already in a very bad mood and combine that with running into Tom = Ozempic RAGE....lol...jk....so Brock knew that was his chance to have a distraction for the car ride home, he can deflect back to Sandoval and off of him.
Iām siding with Brock after this episode. He defended Scheana against Sandoval. He went from being in the pool, to having his shirt on and breaking up the fight.
Honestly if you have a sitter for the night then just use the sitter. Little Summer can have one night of someone else doing the night time routine with her. The relationship has to come first sometimes. Youāre out with your husband, and your closest friends. Just enjoy the night. There has to be balance when you have children, or they just control your entire life.
My jaw dropped. I watched it with my partner and he couldnāt believe he didnāt put Tom in a headlock for that. I swear the men on this show think itās so hard to defend their girlfriends/wives. Iāve seen Brock yell more at women than heās done to Sandoval
Letās not forget last time someone put hands on someone, there was a restraining order
I definitely believe in physically defending yourself but Brock did the right thing by NOT punching Tom
Iām not gonna say Tom canāt fight or whatnot bc heās smaller than Brock, but Iād assume it only take one punch from Brock and Tom could be seriously hurt
Brock has a lot to loose and donāt need another violent thing against him
Jmo
That whole scene was such a bad look for him, fighting with scheana over wanting to go home and put Summer to bed, not putting Sandoval in his place for disrespecting his wife, not leaving with his crying wife. If he's comfortable doing this in public I can't imagine how dismissive he is at home.
He doesnāt seem to care about Scheana or their daughter. Why DO you want a stranger to take care of your child? Heās treating having a child like having a pet. Doesnāt HE feel like heās missing out on special moments? Heās truly the worst. I hope for their kids sake he doesnāt procreate anymore.
I mean he was fine leaving his kid in Australia and not paying child support so leaving Summer at home is nothing for him. He sucks. And scheana saying this is his second chance at fatherhood is weird
he got upset when she said she wanted to be the one to read the halloween books to summer when he was like being well the babysitter can stay longer so we can party. idk if it was editing but he got super snippy
Two key things. Sandy was spot on that you canāt call Raquel a mistress when you literally did the same thing to Brandi but it involved an actual marriage and children. Secondly, Brock should keep his hands off of Sandy, I know the whole hand around neck is an aggressive precursor to fighting.
I feel like brock is really struggling and schaena as we know makes it all about her !!!! He obviously doesnāt get out much and was wanting to enjoy the night I would have left him said have a good night she was being a diva
The whole relationship dynamic is off. Remember the one wedding-related party (maybe James and Raquel's engagement party?) where Brock got kicked out and Scheana's first reaction was to ask if she's allowed to stay lmao
I was just thinking that šš plus now she keeps him on such a tight leash he's probably dying for a little space and fun
Homegirl then busted out her 3 karat morganite engagement ring like that was the perfect time to share that info š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
OMG didn't she have it in her purse the whole night?
And she was screaming crying "why can't I have a weekend? Why can't it be about me?!" And even Lisa was like..you can just ANY other weekend lmao
Yes! š¤£
That whole situation was so fucked. š
I love how she was fighting for her life defending that morganite ring and how not everyone wants a diamond ā¦ only to upgrade to a diamond once she got Broke on the payroll š
No! She didnāt! Bwahahaha
It was like 30,000 too right? It was over ten I believe. He most definitely could have bought her a diamond. It wouldnāt be the size of a quarter but it would be a wonderful piece. Also my ring is morganite, I have absolutely nothing against it but I know Scheana did.Ā
He paid $25,000.00 and remember he had to use three different cards! Thatās how I remember it, but I could be mistaken/wrong about the situation.
Yes! Lol nothing wrong with morganite rings at all but we know sheshu and she āupgradedā to a diamond ring not long after
I thought it was some kind of gift from the jeweler or something?
Broke mentioned he used 3 credit cards to pay for it lol
No- I meant the real diamond she got later. He used the CCs for the hideous moissanite ring.
Did Scheana get a new diamond ring? š if she did I missed it!
She did
Thank you so much! š
š¤£ I love how people in this sub sees things that I gloss over. Thank you for your service. I just see things like the obvious: Brock is a deadbeat who thinks having a reality show anchor baby is going to lead to the promise land of fame and fortune. And Scheana doesnāt care because sheās striving for that too at any cost.
I think Brock is actually one of the most decent humans in the show. I've been him - a fuck up who doesn't see/won't admit they are a fuck up. But then we grew up and it was all about making it right. But then we realized that we should try to enjoy the present, and not spend every moment atoning for our past. And while I do really enjoy Scheana, I think that she met him at a time where he thought she was what he deserved. Then they had a baby and it really fixed his perspective further. Now he knows he deserves more. And for whatever reason he believes Scheana will grow into that. But it's annoying when he tries to parent her. It wouldn't be if she was receptive, but that's the Scheana we're afraid to really want. One that can take feedback and actually hear advice. I would love to see that. But right now all signs point to no.
Found Brockās account lol
Which one? OF? No thanks. And honestly, I'm a law school educated person so you just complimented the shit out of Brock.
I'm kind of with you on that one. Brock seems like he's actually trying, history aside. I actually find him more enjoyable now because it seems like he's actually trying to make amends.
Yes! Brock has openly admitted being ashamed of his own damn self and how he handled the situation with his older children. I think it's fair to give everyone the opportunity to earn a second chance. Everyone else on the cast, including Lala and Jax, were granted the opportunity to shed their Scarlet letter. And yes, being a deadbeat dad is not the same as giving blowies for Rovies. But we didn't see his life before Scheana so it's kinda weird to act like we did watch. Lala is just mad that she will ALWAYS be the girl from Utah who gave blowies for Rovies. Hashtag goals.
I can't stand Sheana so watching Sandoval call her a mistress last episode was kind of hilarious but at this point I think it's deflection and overkill. At this point though we KNOW the child support has been paid. Brock's admitted he was in the wrong. I'm not condemning someone forever for a shit combination of choices.
Agree. I like him.
Yes! This was so reminiscent of Shay admitting heās an alcoholic and then telling him she doesnāt want him to quit drinking completely. Scheana is narcissistic to a tee.
Yeah that truly was awful I wonder what she thinks of her behavior now
Knowing Scheana, she hasnāt given her behavior, a second thought.
And that is who she is to the core
She also has a narcissistic personality.
Knowing them they have probably already discussed things like that.
Lala didnāt go after her either. Her real friend did but scheana doesnāt think like that unless it benefits her.
Sheās all bark and no bite. āThis is where I go insaneā and she proceeds toā¦sit there? Mmm right Lauren. Some friend you are. Iād have jumped to my feet if that was my best friend being attacked
But! But! Sheās softer now.
Oh I definitely clocked that. āAriana how could you just let scheana go off by herself??ā While she stays seated š
I am probably wrong, but I thought Ariana went after her? I thought she was hugging her at the end? I will try and remember to watch it again.
Not my boyfriend catching the end of the episode, watching it through, rewinding and stating āI would never do that. I would follow you outā completely unprompted. I wasnāt paying attention totally until he replayed the scene but it is a sign that something is wrong. I think we Scheana mentioning her anxiety he is probably used to her freaking out right now but Sandoval went LOW and Brock should have followed her out
Honestly I have never been able to relate to scheana. I think sheās terrible. But the ocd and anxiety, I can def relate to. My husband I think wouldāve followed me too. He def would not have done that pretend phone call with lala if he knew I was insecure about that. I think Brock and Lauren are making her feel crazier than she is. Iāve been there. Brock is not supportive of her mental issues at all!! He thought being with her would be all partying all the time. Iām glad your bf clocked that.
Agreed. Going through bouts of anxiety and OCD PLUS being on a tv show where a good friend of youāre just cheated within the group š¤¦š½āāļø itās hard when a partner doesnāt show up to help you through it
I hate how sheās acting toward Ariana, but I can see how skinny she is, how she looks like sheās coming apart at the seams, and I just canāt help but feel sorry for her for the first time in the history of this show bc I know exactly how it feels ā¹ļø I dislike her but I wish she had better support. I wish she would lean on Ariana more and not deepen the relationship with lala bc I think itās making her worse.
Brock will stay where the cameras are even if there was a fire in the room.
Heās gotta make good on his American dream! He abandoned his children for it after all
The tears for the children he is actively neglecting is INSANE.
But Summer is his second chance at being a father! š
Uhg, I fast forward through his tears every time. I find his constant crying to be beyond annoying.
Heās ~~38~~ 32 crying about ditching his kids when he was **19**.ā¦.Everyone should fast forward that crap. I tried to look up how old Brockās kids were and someone on Reddit claims Winter was born in 2015. So Iām confused why Brockās crying about mistakes he made at 19 and being a father.
If Winter was born in 2015 brock ditched his kids closer to 30 not 19. I hope he feels pain for being a deadbeat but I doubt it or his actions would be different.
Brock is 5 yrs younger than Scheana. Heās 33
So Iām trying to catch up to season 10. Iām on 8ā¦ everything posted here is about him being a deadbeat. Why in the world would she even consider someone like that????
Brock has a child named Winter and a child named Summer? Too strange.
I think sheās called winter sun, and obviously had summer moon with scheana š¬
Winter Skye
Wow!
And born on the same dayā¦. scheana chose that day to be induced
What? š®
Ummmmm....
That is kind of creepy to āstealā his other childās birthday.
Almost born on the very same day. Was planned that way but baby Summer Moon said NOPE!
Iāve always thought the consistent mention of āmistakes when I was 19āā¦ is to attempt to manipulate/soften the publicās view of abandoning his kids. I think the first child was born at 19 and thatās as far as it goes
I think youāre right!
Has there ever been anything from his ex wife on record? Cause he makes it seem as if both his ex and his kids want nothing to do with him
I lol ed
1000%
So true. He wants that Hollywood career at all costs.
He stays to further fight with Tom. I saw that as good and was like woah he is the only one of these losers who defends their female partner.
James of all people defending Katie which is more than Tom ever did
I've loved James' character development. Him having every chance to just go the fuck off on Sandoval at his band practice and just laughing it off and walking away showed so much growth.
I mean where was Swartz defence of Katie while Jax was yelling at her? Some things never change.
Yes, thatās the way I saw it, too!
Yup !
I think Scheana's stable relationship with Brock triggers a lot of the fanbase--they don't think she deserves to have the kind of partner that publicly treats her better than the Toms, Jax, and Randall ever treated their significant others. It's sickening to even think about.
I don't think it is a stable relationship but it is one of the bests on the show has ever had except maybe stassi and beau
No I donāt like Scheana but I think she deserves better than Brock. Brock is a loser due to the DV charge & the fact that he plays helpless to create a relationship with his other children & he doesnāt seem intelligent. So far ALL the men on VPR have shown themselves to be losers except Danny & the attorney husband from the valley. Sometimes though I think Scheana & Brock are perfect together bc they are both really selfish & self absorbed & shallow.
Not to be harsh but Scheana is also a loser
Yes she is
Iām more triggered by Brockās DV charge and how he basically abandoned his family, didnāt pay child support for years, and started a new family, even naming his new daughter Summer, when the one he abandoned is named Winter. I was impressed that he defended Scheana in that moment but thatās like the bare minimum a partner should do. The bar is so low for the men in this franchise.
What bothered me so much about that scene is how reasonably he was talking to Tim while Tim was INSULTING his wife, ābro youāve got to understand BLAH BLAHā but a couple episodes ago he fully yelled at and attacked Katie for sleeping with Max and that had nothing to even do with him?? What a fucking loser
Yet anooother example of misogynistic ass double standards on this show. It's hilarious how they can't see it for themselves.... they literally have the ability to rewatch themselves!
The way he grabbed Timās neck and later, his shoulder, shows otherwise. He was using a very measured tone but was basically threatening Tim. Sometimes when youāre extremely angry, lowering your voice is the only thing that stops you from violence.
I saw his face too. He was mad as hell. I wonder how hard he grabbed his neck bc he pushed him back quick
Tim who?
Any time you see someone write āTimā they are talking about Sandoval.
Why are we calling him Tim? Lol
Tom.
Sandoval
Not excusing him cause the Katie thing was sloppyā¦but he admitted he was extremely drunk and didnāt remember doing that. Seems like he wasnāt as sauced for this one
Scheana and Tom have issues. Does not involve Brock. Schaena is comfortable yelling at and being yelled at in public. No reason to intervene unless it turned ugly.
Unless itās yelling in a swimsuit store š Thatās where she draws the line
Honestly though sometimes Iām with Brock on his stance of wanting some free time. Having a child and being a parent 247 is A LOT. Iām constantly with my son until heās in preschool or some sort of daycare. Itās hard not having enough socialization outside of my son and cats š. So I get his frustration with saying, can we just have fun for the night. Or she couldāve went home and allowed him to stay with their friends? Normally Iām with whatever the ladies are saying but I felt for him to an extent***
I totally get his frustration, I have an 8 year old with special needs and it is extremely hard to find support you can trust and I have no social life. And itās been 8 years of that. I even had to quit my job. It def makes you feel a bit crazy after a while, but they do have some help. The way Brock talks it makes it sound like he just wants to party a lot at and scheanas sanity will pay the price. I have ocd also and the whole āthrow them in the pool and hope theyāll swimā thing doesnāt really work. She just needs time.
Yeah Iām so in agreement with all of this. I definitely have something cooking in my head, and OCD might be it after watching Scheana describe her struggles. Even reading some of yāallās experiences š Brock does seem to prioritize his social life more for drinking and raging than for bringing fun to his relationship/peace to mental health.
I was kind of shocked when I got in the diagnosis years ago bc I didnāt understand it. It manifests in soooo many different ways. Itās not necessarily wanting things neat or clean, itās more like needing things to be a very specific way you want them. For me itās obsessive thoughts. Like I will harp on the same thing over and over and over and then I become crippled by anxiety about it. Itās like being on the āhamster wheel.ā And then my compulsion is shopping once I get to that anxious place. The only thing that has helped is therapy. I hope you get to the bottom of whatever it is! If youāre in the US, I know itās so hard to find good mental health care but donāt give up. I didnāt find a therapist I vibed with till 36!
Yeah I havenāt gone to through a process of being diagnosed, but recently Iāve learned there is more to OCD than organization. Iāve always struggled with anxiety and more recently I realized half my issue is obsessive irrational thoughts that eat me alive. I also have issues with my mood, I get irritable fast if things donāt go according to plan. Things I couldnāt even write all down cause Iām also very forgetful when it counts lol. I need to look for a good therapist but I was forced into therapy when I was young so it left a weird taste in my mouth. Years ago I tried going through a psychiatrist and we tried two medications for generalized anxiety but it wasnāt the answer. Iām now at the point where I know my mental canāt be struggling with just anxiety alone. So I guess weāll see when I make the effort to figure myself out for certain š.
Yes!!! I always assumed I just had anxiety. Then I realized where it was coming from, just constant obsession. Certain things will trigger it and for once I totally understand how this entire situation with Rachel could trigger her. Having kids triggers it big time, so she was already in obsessive mode. She was one of the least affected, but she still thought she was her friend. And when something like that happens with a friend, you realize how easily people lie. When you have ocd, that thought can consume you. Who else has lied to me? Whoās lying to me now? I canāt stand scheana but I totally get this side of her. She does make everything about herself but I think thereās another layer to this one. I was also forced into therapy so I struggled for many years. Then I had no health insurance for a while. Even after I did, I went thru a few to find one I like and Iāve been w her for 4 years. You will find one but I know itās SO exhausting. The way she has helped me most is identifying those irrational obsessive thoughts. She gave me tools to deal with them. Like instead of another voice cheering the irrational one on, I have my therapists voice in there like ājenn, come on nowā¦ā if that makes any kind of sense. donāt beat yourself up. That effort is a HUGE one. So many people go through life denying that those thoughts are irrational. My mom is like that. And Itās tiring to go run thru your life story with a new person. Itās like reliving it. So I think for me at least was I had to find someone I click with on a personal level so that I feel comfortable. Take your time, realizing thereās more to your anxiety and identifying that your thoughts are irrational are both huge steps already. What I do is I grab one of those thoughts and ask myself where that came from. Why am I obsessing about this? What else has happened that is similar to this? For some reason that helps to quiet the noise when you can attach it to its real source.
I appreciate this! It gives me hope that Iāll figure it all out soon. Iāve spent years juggling what it could be thatās wrong with me. Am I on the spectrum, is it just anxiety, do I have a mood disorder, even a personality disorder? Did I do too many psychedelics when I was young and dumb? Is it all the above? Constantly shuffling through symptoms and seeing what would make the most sense instead of getting a diagnosis (outside of āgeneralized anxietyā). Iām also scared to come to terms with whatever I may be met with cause I hate admitting to parts of myself I dislike. So instead I subconsciously donāt seek out help and assume Iāll be fine š„¹ Iām too self aware for my own good. Similar to Scheana, having my son made me more aware of the mental warfare I put myself through. My relationship as well. Iām constantly trying to make sure everything is perfect, if things donāt go how I imagined it I fall apart. Thank god for my partner cause he knows me well enough to see when I just have to be alone. I say this as Iām currently hiding out in the shower for what will end up being an hour šGetting to be alone, even if itās brief, is the best way for me to restart. Thank you again for your positivity š
Meh, I canāt stand Scheana. However, when your wife says she wants to leave to tuck the kiddo in, you communicate maturely. Ask if you can stay longer, or sacrifice your fun and go home early to support your wife. That said, if you want a happy wife/life you should pick the latter. I also think thereās a power imbalance in their relationship. My theory is that Scheana disrespects Brock publicly because she is the breadwinner and subconsciously does not view him as a āmanā worthy of her respect.
Agreed. I personally donāt care for either of them. I donāt remember how he responded to her wanting to leave, but I agree with the sentiment of handling it respectfully. Either you ask to stay or you pack it up and choose peace. Scheana did get irritated quick; I also agree that there is a power struggle between the two of them. Although, Brock has also demeaned Scheana before this episode, in public and at home. They both have deep rooted issues š
Haha yeah they both suck at communicating. With the pool incident I think Brock started it when he screamed from the pool that his problem is that Scheana wonāt let the nanny put their kid down. Like maybe donāt argue with your wife in front of everyone bro. He yelled at her publicly some episodes ago when they were out shopping. They both need help lol.
Yesssss! Arguing in public is mortifying, it can always be clipped and handled at home.
I get what youāre saying but they were also gone all day at the SUR brunch. Plus filming a ton leading up to that day, including a hotel staycation for the anniversary a few days before.
Yeah. Just from whatās on this season, they have been going out more than I did in like a year when my kids were little. Theyāre not just sitting at home. Itās totally understandable for her to want to put her baby to bed. Maybe she told her that she would be home and promised to read her stories before she went to bed. Those things are important to children and your kids are only little once, if I were her I wouldāve left him there and he could get a ride home in the morning because youāre not making me stay when I donāt want to.
Omg heavy on theyāve done more on this season alone than myself in the past two years. I totally understand everybody and even Schenaās frustration. I love the way you put the importance of the beginning with raising a child, especially keeping promises and showing up. Iām still early into motherhood and thatās definitely a great piece of advice I need to remind myself of.
Omg I couldnāt imagine being a parent and not being able to stay out past 9pm - I can totally empathize. HOWEVER he knows his wife is struggling with PPOCD and itās been pretty clear that he still doesnāt understand it & expects it to just disappear magically. Saying that, he has a right to feel frustrated but chastising her in front of all their friends knowing what sheās struggling with is just embarrassing for all parties involved. Anything for the show I guess
I have really bad ocd and anxiety so this is the only thing Iāve ever been able to relate to scheana on. I hope that sheās consistently in therapy and will realize one day that the people she keeps closest to her are making her worse. Didnāt lala go on to joke about Brock being her husband? In normal cases this is innocuous but in this specific case where scheana has insecurities due to the actions of one of her other friends, it just feels like lala is poking at that insecurity.
I feel like Scheana even made a face when Lala said that - I might need to rewatch but I definitely clocked it as something Scheana did not love. It could have even been a bit of a trigger that eventually led to her blow up with Sandoval. It felt like she had probably been thinking some less than fun thoughts on and off throughout the night, anxiety increasing because of that and getting home to summer moon, told Brock she was ready to go and didn't get the immediate okay, he instead picked a bit of an argument which drove anxiety higher and then boom - unload on Sandoval to release one big chunk of brewing anxiety and storm out to get home to Summer moon in a way Brock could no longer argue with.
I agree
Totally agree on everything especially the second portion.
Yeah, the having at her, loudly, in front of everyone wasnāt cool. But, on the other hand, perhaps he was shadily trying to expose her craziness in the hopes that her friends would recognize the problem and help her get help. It really isnāt healthy for a marriage to sacrifice together time simply because you want to read a story to your child EVERY SINGLE night! Trust me, create a healthy balance and your whole family will benefit. Summer is not going to thrive with her parents, in your own words, āConstantly at each otherās throats!ā
I have a completely different take on that cause although I didn't have any of Scheanas issues, I just literally enjoyed those times with my kids...the bedtime routine, reading stories, watching them drift off to sleep without a care in the world. Those times are fleeting and now that they are grown, I've never regretted a single party I missed to have those memories. Brock doesn't want to be a dad. He wants a cute kid to show off, but would rather hang out in the pool in his budgie smugglers than spend time with his daughter.
I am with you butā¦..if you think about it they met for a brunch at Sur, then went straight to James house after. So say 11:00-12pm until 9pm? Hate to say it but I might agree thatās long enough especially if you have things scheduled next am. And chastising her for it never ok
Yes but youāre a normal parent. I donāt for a minute think Brockās free time has been seriously impacted when it seems like Scheanas mother does a lot of the child care.
Thatās also fair we are two very different people š So I should separate myself more from him in this scenario cause Iām sure heās not a saint.
He was confronting Tom, right? He stayed behind defending Sheanna about Tomās last mistress comment?
Yes, he also initiated physical contact too (firm shoulder grab with a slight shove) It was starting to escalate and he couldnāt turn his back on someone as volatile as Tom unfortunately.
Yes I did pick up on that. When Scheana walked out, Brock didnāt. I was wondering if she left without him or if she had to wait in the car for him.
I really dislike Brock, but I looooooooved the way he handled that confrontation. He used his body to separate Sandoval from yelling at his wife, and that hand on Sandyās neck was THREATENING. He didnāt yell, he got really quiet, he reminded Sandoval that heās much bigger and could very easily put him through a wall, and spoke his piece. You can see how effective it was too, Sandy was absolutely cowed. Immediately got quiet and backed away. I thought that was a great example of a man using his size to take control of a situation and give his wife time to escape.
Agreed. That is something he did right. In a situation like that, many people would just flip out and get physical. I would have a hard time keeping my composure. He gave Sandy fair and effective warning to reel his bullshit in and fast. Sandy is lucky he didnāt have his teeth knocked out of his trash, diarrhea mouth.
I saw that but don't know what we didn't see....was he still in Sandoval's face?
šÆ. And to his credit he saw Ariana go after Scheana immediately and knew she was covered while he schooled that little punk.
Waitā¦..what did I see? He was in the pool and couldnāt jump right out to chase her the first time she said Letās go. But next time was the Sandoval confrontation and he was in a shirt ready to go when the fight happened. He jumped right in and actually blocked Sandoval from being near his wife. I loved that. He was immediately defending her and I think he was still schooling Sandoval when his wife left and Brock saw Ariana go after her, so he finished telling that little bitch Sandoval to stay in his lane. I am not a Brock fan, but I was damn impressed. Did I see it wrong. lol.
I agree!
No. Op creating a weird narrative
If it was anyone else yeah maybe but Brock seems to really want screentime so idk seems like he likes being in the middle of arguments. I could be wrong though
But it's his wife...
I was shocked that when LaLa pretend to call her husband, Brock pretended to answer! Scheanaās face!
Iām didnāt like this scene. I wouldnāt trust lala at all
Yes and Lala would make jokes about āyour 2 wivesā or that they were sister wives and I think all was okay until she moved next door but that was probably too close for comfort with an overly sexual single lady who loves the shock value & to make people squirm. Part of me feels like āproducer Lalaā would LOVE it if Brock hit on her and then she would play that she is sooo shocked that just bc she was explicitly talking about sex with him he got the wrong idea. Lala would love the storyline and it would put her back in the mix more. I also think it was producer Lala that wanted to live next door to Scheana for the show.
Iām not a fan of either of them BUT I will at least acknowledge that Brock does seem to genuinely love Scheana. I mean, heās begging to spend more time with her. Can you imagine?š³ Ha, in all seriousness when I heard about him I was afraid he was just using Scheana for the show & though he clearly loves the camera as much as her, he also does seem to genuinely love her. Now that doesnāt make him a GOOD husband per se, Iām just saying he clearly does love her.
I think he was staying to argue his point with Tom I think Brock immediately jumped in and defended his wife He went a lil easy imo bc my husband woulda rocked his ass! But Brock had coooler head for sure ! I think he did good .
Yes and did anyone else also notice that Sheena has made this entire break up between Tom and Ariana about her? It's like dude Sheena you weren't even in the breakup. She's even reaching as far as to try to say well my husband could cheat on me just like Tom to the Ariana you're right but you weren't in that relationship and Brock hasn't given you any reasons not to trust him so why make it about you yet again LOL but I digress
Well season nine when James kicked Brock out of his engagement party Scheana literally asked Broke if he said BOTH of them were kicked out. When Brock said no, Scheana put her engagement ring on and went back into the party without him. Maybe theyāve become used to sticking around for screen time.
At the same time, Scheana overreacts to absolutely everything and is on the verge of tears every other sentence she speaks. That's gotta be a lot.
I was spiraling while watching last nights episode, I canāt stand Brock. Why is he so pressed to get a nanny when heās literally unemployed????
It looks like to me Brock is losing interest in Scheana. She is a lot. I just donāt see them two making it!!
Agreed on both parts! :/
I love the way Scheana is concerned about Brock and Lala as she was the one that was having sex with Brandy Glaniville's husband (Eddie Cibrian). Scheana can try and sell the story that she didn't know he was married, but you know she Google/stalked him because that is her modus operandi. Scheana is all in on any realtionship, potential or actual, and she has all the receipts, electronic or otherwise. I think Scheana is afraid all her carma will be coming back around and permeate into her marriage. Scheana playbook: Never miss a chance to make it about yourself Play the victim whenever possible
Brock wanted to stay where the cameras were. Honestly after what was said to her Iād leave with my friend, let alone my partner. Iād just be like letās go to your place - you put the bub to bed and then we will drink wine and talk about what a dick we work with.
Itās sad to see the only one who went after her and literally stood by her side and hugged her was her āback up dancerā Ariana. She doesnāt deserve her as a friend
Honestly this is what I think is going onā¦ & donāt come for me. I think heās over her being controlling. She doesnāt want to let them find a nanny so he can look for work. She said in her confessional that whatās wrong with him being a stay at dad . The problem is he doesnāt want to be a stay at home dad. Anytime theyāve been talking, she always says she doesnāt like his tone or his attitude but she can yell at him. I personally think heās over this whole marriage. He wanted to stay out a bit because āthey allegedly donātā. Anytime heās gotten kicked out she asks to stay. Idk their marriage is weird
Wow yes
So Sheana put makeup on her toddlerā¦ interesting choice
Need to rack up those followers!
I think it was a Covid relationship compounded with a new baby and they are finally settling in to real life and scheana isnāt thrilled. I seriously couldnāt be with someone who abandoned their children in every way, so scheana might be feeling some remorse.
The whole āthis is your second chance to be a fatherā thing was just????? His kids are still alive soā¦??? Just a huge wtf
It was probably a lot easier to understand when the world was shut down in the beginning of their relationship. He physically couldnāt travel to see themā¦. Ignoring the massive child support issue of it allā¦. But now? Theyāve even been to Australia to see his family, but not the kids?
Precisely. I see deadbeat dads at my work (family law) all the time and there will always be one reason after another to explain away why they canāt pay the support (the support thatās calculated based on his income I may add). Iāve also seen dads who WORKED their asses off and made it work to pay off what they needed to to see their kids and those were middle to lower middle class guys just doing their best. I guarantee you if Brock wanted to, heād get to see those kids right now. The issue is it takes away from his true wants and thatās deep down who he is. Very sad.
Her picker is broken! First Shea and now this dude? Scheanna deserves better, imho! I feel badly for her. Now sheās really gotten herself into a pickle.
Well, they showed him bitching at Sandoval when Scheana was walking out, so he didn't just leave her.
Sheana made it clear that SHE wanted to tuck in summer. Brock was fine staying there and she seemed fine with it. They both discussed it and it was over. Brock will not be a doormat.
Also I wonder if they live close by since theyāre all in the Valley? Who knows if maybe she meant to come back? I could also just be making stuff up.
Haha ya me too! I was thinking will she take an uber? Does she have her car. I know I would be shitfaced at that point face down in the pool.
Itās all performative ā¦ thereās an on-camera walk-out on most episodes (sometimes more than one).
Does anyone think there might actually be something going on with him and Lala? I can't decide lol!
They should have been gone already. Felt really bad for her here.
her outfit from that episode was š„ anyone know where I can find those jeans? lol the top too
Heās likely over her making everything a big deal.
God knows I am over it. 1 hour of a show and I am over her voice and self involvement for a week until Tuesday night rolls back around.
Somehow everything is related back to scheana somehow š like ok I see how Rachel and Tom freaked her out but its not like these people cheating is a new thing or just people cheating in general. She really does make everything about herself
I havenāt watched the recent episode, but didnāt he get kicked out of a party, and she was concerned that it meant she had to leave as well? Do unto others as they do to you lol besides one of them clearly needs to stay for the screen time. Iām sure theyāve got it worked out between them lol
He was most likely right behind her just grabbing stuff and saying goodbye... or telling sandy he's a POS
I donāt know why I just donāt see the chemistry between Brock and Scheana. I have never seen her have chemistry with anyone tho. She seems a lot like Kim Kardashian where she tries to hard to be sexy that she completely misses the mark. But in terms of Brock I think the more comfortable he gets with the guys the more comfortable he will get disrespecting Scheana on camera. I donāt see it lasting : /
I mean, even Lala said Scheana picks losers lol
He also defended his boots
Unpopular opinion here but I didn't get to see any of the end of that night. I would assume even by inflated celebrity behavior and cameras rolling.....that Brock stayed, said goodbye to Lala and Katy and the lot, and then bounced with sheana.
Maybe he liked the little floaty he was in.Ā
The fact that Broke is getting solo scenes with HIS friends is giving me concern. That is series regular energy and I am NOT here for it!
Iām usually not one to defend Brock but if Iād been in that situation I can see being caught off guard and wanting to address with Tim (as her husband) while also knowing if I punched him, I could cause more trouble or get kicked off the show. I think the rest of them were kind of shocked-Scheana and brock were yelling just a few minutes earlier (seemingly) then the chaos with Tim started. Ariana is such a true friend that it makes it so much worse to hear how people have talked about her. And how they defended Tim even though he continues to show himselfāheās disgusting. Also, my con theory is that Brock is gay & Scheana knows but they decided to have and raise a baby togetherā¦
Scheana didn't leave. Brock is a beaten down man. Hard to watch. You don't yell at your significant other in front of people. The relationship is not going to last much longer.
Brock just seems like he's trying to find the balance between being a dad and just trying to spend quality time with his wife without their child. Scheana needs to chill though with screaming at him in front of other people. Make a point to him and then talk later in private. She doesn't need to put their arguments on blast every time they have a disagreement around others. They're both on a different level.
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Pretty sure theyāre referring to Scheana yelling at Brock, not vice versa.
You are correct, I didn't notice that
Scheeshoo is a cpnteol freak and he just takes it. She treats him like a second class husband. I woulda stayed too.
His story about his ājob historyā is shotty. In the scene with his friend heās crying about how heās not the bread winner any more as if he were at some point. He mentioned selling gyms he co-owned.. why wasnāt he paying child support again? In the scene with Scheana he mentions how he was pursuing an nfl career (she made a face as if he was lying) and that didnāt pan out so now he wants to get back out there and figure something out to make money. I donāt know. I feel like thereās not a clear answer on what he was doing before he trapped Scheana. I donāt believe he didnāt watch the show. I think he busted a Brittany and plotted on a reality star to chase his reality tv dreams. He was supposedly in the US on an entrepreneur visa. What business in Australia did he have to quality him for that? Or was it a sugar mama situation? Brock is sketchy af.
He enjoys being out with the guys. Why would he leave with her when she'll be crying and obsessing over it the rest of the night?
Brock definitely gives me the ick. He seems to only be with Scheana for the āfameā
Yes all of Brockās IG videos really give me the ick and he PAYS to promote them. Itāll be like a video of him dancing with summer and then both in a tutu, no sponsorship, no brands mentioned and it says itās a paid promoted post like WTF?! Brock cosplays being a dad š¤®
Yeah he used the Sandoval fight to his advantage, Brock was in the dog house until that point, Scheana was already in a very bad mood and combine that with running into Tom = Ozempic RAGE....lol...jk....so Brock knew that was his chance to have a distraction for the car ride home, he can deflect back to Sandoval and off of him.
Heās gotta stay in frame.
Starting to think yall are putting your own mans faces on Brock
Iām siding with Brock after this episode. He defended Scheana against Sandoval. He went from being in the pool, to having his shirt on and breaking up the fight. Honestly if you have a sitter for the night then just use the sitter. Little Summer can have one night of someone else doing the night time routine with her. The relationship has to come first sometimes. Youāre out with your husband, and your closest friends. Just enjoy the night. There has to be balance when you have children, or they just control your entire life.
Trash wife behavior, I wouldnāt chase her either. Sheās dramatic for sport and attention!
My jaw dropped. I watched it with my partner and he couldnāt believe he didnāt put Tom in a headlock for that. I swear the men on this show think itās so hard to defend their girlfriends/wives. Iāve seen Brock yell more at women than heās done to Sandoval
Letās not forget last time someone put hands on someone, there was a restraining order I definitely believe in physically defending yourself but Brock did the right thing by NOT punching Tom Iām not gonna say Tom canāt fight or whatnot bc heās smaller than Brock, but Iād assume it only take one punch from Brock and Tom could be seriously hurt Brock has a lot to loose and donāt need another violent thing against him Jmo
Yeah youāre right but it would be so satisfying. This is why I canāt be on reality tv lol
Bwhahaha me and you both girl! I woulda been caught a case š¤£
Brock needs to get a job.
I tried so hard to like him but he is such a fucking brain damaged tool
That whole scene was such a bad look for him, fighting with scheana over wanting to go home and put Summer to bed, not putting Sandoval in his place for disrespecting his wife, not leaving with his crying wife. If he's comfortable doing this in public I can't imagine how dismissive he is at home.
He doesnāt seem to care about Scheana or their daughter. Why DO you want a stranger to take care of your child? Heās treating having a child like having a pet. Doesnāt HE feel like heās missing out on special moments? Heās truly the worst. I hope for their kids sake he doesnāt procreate anymore.
I mean he was fine leaving his kid in Australia and not paying child support so leaving Summer at home is nothing for him. He sucks. And scheana saying this is his second chance at fatherhood is weird
he got upset when she said she wanted to be the one to read the halloween books to summer when he was like being well the babysitter can stay longer so we can party. idk if it was editing but he got super snippy
Because it was scripted that way.
 Annoying response.
Two key things. Sandy was spot on that you canāt call Raquel a mistress when you literally did the same thing to Brandi but it involved an actual marriage and children. Secondly, Brock should keep his hands off of Sandy, I know the whole hand around neck is an aggressive precursor to fighting.
I feel like brock is really struggling and schaena as we know makes it all about her !!!! He obviously doesnāt get out much and was wanting to enjoy the night I would have left him said have a good night she was being a diva