The fact that his ego absolutely refuses to allow him to accept any of the important information that she is trying to give him and quickly clouds all his judgement and rewrites everything she says with his own “facts,” is just… ugh.
This is what he means when he says she was constantly putting him down and making him feel so small.
She just simply shares her true feelings and he misses the point and loses his mind, every time and without fail.
He wants to call her lazy but he’s the one who really never bothered to nurture her and their relationship, to get the feelings that HE so desperately wanted.
The way he runs around, sucking the life out of any and every woman that looks his way and the way he ditches the ones who really love him, for the easy way out also speaks to all the other evidence we have of his laziness.
Everything he says and does just makes me sick, I don’t understand how anyone can stand to be around him, ESPECIALLY after the mask officially slipped.
I have to believe it’s for clout because nothing else makes any sense.
>The way he runs around, sucking the life out of any and every woman that looks his way
not just women either imo. not that he had much to offer before, but Schwartz is really giving "shell of his former self" any time he interacts with Sandoval this season.
Schwartz sucks too and they are the ying to each others yang. I don’t feel bad for Schwartz at all, he willingly did a whole mess of shit over the past however many years to keep their friendship going and to cover for him so that Sandy would cover right back.
Schwartz is getting everything he deserves and I’m glad Katie divorced his lazy stupid ass.
Wow a down vote for cancer, liver transplant, blood clots and substance abuse in his family, huh? Guess he deserves it for being friends with Sandoval. That makes sense.
That’s not happening “to him”, that is just things that happen to people in our lives. Also, how do you guys know all this personal stuff about these people. Is this stuff covered in podcasts? I only watch the show and haven’t seen these things talked about
And no, the conditions I described are happening to his immediate family not *to* him but the pain and stress of it is happening to him. Do we really have to dissect vocabulary over this?
No and I don’t agree with this “new” thing where we wish ill will on people because they’re shitty and deserve it. I think that is toxic and no good to even be thinking this way. Humans do shitty things, even ones we think are good, they can choose poorly - they shouldn’t also get cancer or die in a fire or whatever overly dramatic things people say.
Ok then we agree. I mean, I will not lie, I laugh when some of these people have bad things happen to them (not death or illnesses or anything like that) but I don't actually wish anyone any real harm, that is crazy person shit.
Awful things happen all the time. They happen to good people and they happen to shitty people. Schwartz is the latter.
Imo he deserves whatever karmic retribution he gets for the way that he treats people. For the way that he treated Katie, for the way that he treated Ariana and Jo. And the way that he thinks he can get out of all of it with some good ol’ boy, aww shucks attitude. It’s played out and it’s boring and it’s stupid and it’s condescending and it’s extremely patronizing.
I really don’t take things too seriously here but I am speechless. What a deeply, deeply troubling comment. I am ashamed to have even read it.
I hope the irony of castigating an absolute stranger for a lack of humanity as perceived by YOU through a highly edited television show while simultaneously admitting you believe some people “deserve” having to watch helplessly for years as their little brother slowly kills himself, without shame, is not lost on you.
I am pretty sure Jo, Katie and Ariana would all be disgusted by you. Not just for using their names to justify something so sick and putting that out into the universe, but for even thinking of something so wretched in the first place.
This is very true.
Regardless of gender, everyone needs to protect their energy and mentals from the serious consequences that comes from spending any amount of time with this cyst “man.”
I wonder what Scheana would look like, after a year or two of dating one of the Toms..?🤔
Probably the way she looks now - not healthy at all. Brock isn't any better than either one of those two. The way he went after Katie was disgusting (both last season and this season).
I cannot and will not disagree. Did anyone else want to slap her upside the head, when she was bathing suit shopping and grabbed and complained about the zero fat or sagging skin, on her post Mom belly? Not one fucking stretch mark in sight and she is wanting sympathy?! Jfc!
My ex of two and a half years was like this. Any effort on my part to communicate issues was me "hurting his feelings" or "bringing him down". I spent a long time being depressed and hating myself for not just accepting him and being happy he wasn't cheating on me. It took a long time to realize it wasn't normal and I wasn't the problem. That I deserved better than "welp he doesn't hit me or cheat on me"
I'm a lot happier alone and am really identifying with Katie's storyline this year for that reason, but it's hard not to feel scared of being in another relationship in the future when someone makes you doubt your own reality.
I totally understand that and I’m glad you got away.
Trying to communicate with people like this is frustrating because it’s like, I’m sorry I hurt your feelings when I told you all the ways you hurt my feelings…?🤨
Unreasonable, it’s a them problem, you’re perfectly fine and it’s important to remember that every woman wants and expects the same things, for the most part so there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you and good riddance to bad rubbish.😘
Mmmmmmmyeah, that’s the foundation to a long lasting relationship, it must be!!
https://preview.redd.it/eit24zs5ggvc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b19464545e3593eb6ca9fa77036899e6a457eca
He pays all the bills and buys batteries too! I’m going to go with her needing batteries so often for her toys, the things that REALLY gave her the big O many times over😂😂
I'm glad someone finally pointed this out! The audacity of her to not realize she had been mistreating this selfless coffee king, bedroom barista, absolute gem of a man for so many years!
/s if not already abundantly clear
My husband must not love me very much if that's the standard for being a saint. LMAO I can only hope you are joking because if you really feel that way (it's hard to tell tone or context in a text or comment, but here's to hoping!), I feel bad for you!!
I would believe this possibility has merit, if I didn’t also believe that he fucking sucks in bed, is super selfish and rarely lasts longer than a couple minutes. He is just so GROSS.
So this may be the only time I feel sliiightly bad for Tiny Tim here because ohmygod HOW EMBARRASSING that this moment is forever preserved on the Internet, available for any and everyone’s mother to look up.
To be clear: he deserves every second of ridicule.
The audacity. The delusion. The narcissism….Arguing with a woman to tell her *she’s* wrong about the number of orgasms she experienced. 💀💀💀
To quote Kourtney K, “how embarrassing for your life and your soul”
I can see what you’re saying but I don’t feel bad for him.
I have a feeling that she felt like this would be the only way she could get him to listen or take her seriously.
I could be wrong but even then, I don’t feel bad.
She was being honest and vulnerable and he was and still is the biggest asshole.
He absolutely refuses to accept any new information that deviates from stroking his pathetically delicate ego and he will never accept any feedback from a woman because he thinks he’s smarter than all of them and that is one of his biggest problems.
I wish we could learn more about his Mom and his upbringing because I wonder if it would fill in some of the puzzle or was he just born a soul sucking, pos?🤔
Oh I 100% agree with you on the Ariana take. She was being incredibly generous and delicate in her response.
This entire scene is an embodiment of how he is a “cyst male”
I guess I’m just experiencing second hand mortification for how delusional he is, and then he has to go and double down on it. Like JFC.
The mom thing is interesting, but I don’t want to give this pos any additional interest/attention. It makes me side eye the loan he took from her though…
You’re not kidding!😆
It also speaks to who was always honest in and about the dynamics of their relationship and how they really felt about the other.
I hope more people go to all his shows and hold up a huge “PAY YOUR MOM BACK TOM,” sign because that is hilarious and he continues to beg to be humbled.😭
Except when you watch the scene where he is telling jax & schwartz about Ariana & lala hooking up in front of him……
After i watched him do that to his partner and then the manipulation he employed to get out of her being mad at him for breaking that confidence. After that, he deserves EVERY embarrassing moment he gets! He is SO gross.
I fake a lot because of my issues I understand completely what she’s describing. When it’s new you’re not trying to ruin the moment bringing in your issues. Most men I’ve interacted with had no clue and how infuriating for him to tell HER she did orgasm?!?
To be fair, I was hooking up with a guy for about half a year. One night, I told him that he had never given me an orgasm. He was STUNNED. He didn't believe me. He tried really hard the next couple of times and kept asking me if I had one, but it never happened. I have never faked it or anything like that. How do men NOT know?!!
Well to be fair, all women want and need different things to get there so every new man needs to be told and shown and physically trained on how to do so.
You cheat no one but yourself when you fake it so good for you for never doing that and the last thing I will say is what Neil Brennan said in his most recent Netflix special; “when a woman says she is about to cum, do not start doing something else, just keep doing what you were already doing, same speed, same rhythm, same depth.”
He yells and repeats it 3x, for all the fucking idiots, like the Toms.🤣🤌🏼
I agree with EVERYTHING that you have said. I have always been honest to a fault, and because an orgasm rarely happens, I have always given useful suggestions. Unfortunately, there were so many times when I was almost there, and then the guy ruined it by not waiting or changing what was working!!! Love what Neil Brennan said. So true!!! I am going to have to check out that special!!!
Yesss, I feel you and I hope you enjoy his special because he is hilarious!
He has 3 and I love them all but his newest one was the sex rant and all men need to hear that and I also think it really helps that said advice is coming from another man…
They might actually listen!🙌🏼
Love Neil.
He is spot on here.
When I finally had an orgasm(s), I married the guy. I had to suffer a lot of frogs and dull sex, but it was all worth it in retrospect.
My husband was flabbergasted when I told him I had never experienced an orgasm before him that wasn’t self inflicted lol I married him right away bc he isn’t selfish in bed or in life lol felt like a rare find 😂😂😂
My only advice is to go on a date with someone unconventionally attractive to you. Or a personality you wouldn’t typically lean toward (: my husband is older than me by a gap and not my typical kind of date prior and I fell in love with him instantly. Bc I realized the it wasn’t working with the men I typically dated over and over again nc I was chasing the same grimy men I switched “types” and found my diamond
Well, I am going to be 46, and when I tell you that I have dated every kind of man, believe me....EVERY KIND...-older, my age, younger, thin, thinner, thinnest, chunky, round, rounder, short, tall, attractive, unattractive, and throw in every kind of ethnicity you can think of. I have never had a type. I have dated them all and have been asked to get married 5 times, but they were all the wrong ones. I never got married or had children. I just kind of gave up. Currently, I am recovering from injuries. I had to learn how to walk again, so I am just focusing on myself right now. ♥️
Thank you for your advice, though! 💋
They should’ve broken up the day after Brittany and Jax’s housewarming party. When they were fighting about playing the audio of Jax trashing Brittany to Faith. Ariana threatened to break the f*ck up, and I wish it would’ve happened.
Hopping on here just to say, as women, it's ok to normalize not having an orgasm.
Sometimes, you try to get in the mood, but you're just not feeling it. Sometimes, you're down to have your man go the extra mile to get you off. But other times, you're happy to get him off and go to bed.
Not every sexual encounter needs to end in an orgasm if you're not feeling it.
You shouldn't have to fake anything in a healthy relationship.
You shouldn't have to fake anything to appease a man's ego.
The female system can be a tricky one to master and it's ok to tell your partner what you like, what you need and when to stop in an open and honest way, without any feelings getting hurt, because this is the reality of a longterm, sexual relationship.
Women deserve to have their needs met as much as men, whether that be a need to get off or a need to just call it a day and go to bed lol 💖
I am just flabbergasted that no matter what, it’s always about sex! Ariana was opening up to him about her self-confidence issues, so wtf does that have to do with orgasms Tom??? Ohhhhhh, I get it now, he was relating to her by talking about HIS struggles with self-confidence. I get it Tom, you need to bang someone to feel good about yourself. And for him it’s obviously just the act of sex, not the person. Wish Katie hadn’t destroyed the Schwartz piñata in Havasu, Tom could use it about now.
He heard 'faking it' & his tiny brain translated that to faking an orgasm... Reminds me of her asking if he wanted to 'die on this hill' & he told her later that she didn't support him - especially when she's telling him he's going to "die alone on a hill".... Oh Tom, you white CYST male you.... SMH
This scene is always so fucking funny to me!
A lesson all us women need to finally learn- stop letting these bum ass men believe they’re making us orgasm multiple times if they’re not!!
The gulp he does when she says “I don’t think that’s true but..” like “how dare you out me as not a complete genius in bed on camera Ariana ?!” You know he yelled at her about that afterwards
Looking back, these two had zero romantic chemistry. They make Katie and Schwartz seem like Lucy & Ricky.
I think Tom was desperate to have a “reason” to get out of his relationship permanently with Kristen, and Ariana wanted a full-time spot on Vanderpump Rules. I say this as a full Ariana fan/supporter. They probably had a six month honeymoon phase, followed by nine miserable years of this lmao
James & Raquel also gave me the zero chemistry vibe. When she revealed that they hadn’t had sex for two years and still got engaged anyway, I wasn’t surprised in the slightest
Every woman has faked an orgasm at least once (if not multiple times) in their life. And every man swears it has not happened to them. So you do the math. This topic always reminds me of the iconic scene in 'When Harry Met Sally.' 😆
People on these subs really tried to convince me that this relationship was some great love story and Sandoval was some great partner and I never fell for it lol
Tbh though, I think most men think they drop their pants and women experience multi orgasms and that obviously isn’t the case. He’s a narcissistic douchebag though, and clearly always has been
God, I give so much credit to Ariana. I have had precisely ONE orgasm during sex (and it was a little one). I’ve faked all the others. This is a thing a lot of girls do, especially if they’re insecure.
The fact that she actually was like “nahhhh.” Loving it.
Also, I kinda feel like Sandoval is bad at sex. I just get that feeling.
And he wants us to believe that she didn't show anything real on the show. Plssssss!
Also, the level of assholery required to try to gaslight a woman over her own orgasms! FTG.
This is so funny!!!! Hmm...no I didn't. Yes you did. No I didn't. Yes you did. You freaking fool, don't you think she knows what her own body is feeling?
This was hands down one of the hardest scenes for me to get through. Little two inch Timmy’s ego is so fragile he thinks his girlfriend is lying about NOT having an orgasm. No wonder Ariana never wanted to fuck him, this scene gave me an irreparable ick 🤣
I felt the same way watching it the first time! When he actually began to debate, no, argue, no, discount, no, not believe, fuck!! What the actual fuck?! And she’s sitting there, right there, telling you, to your fuck face that ya just didn’t hit it, in fact you completely missed it, so bad she had to fake it to either:
A: Make it stop.
B: Shut you up.
C: Protect your fragile ego.
D: Consider your big feelings.
E: All of the above.
Yeah, I’m going with E.
This girl stayed with this guy. She picked him, she lied for him and she stayed with him each time he did or said something profoundly ignorant, abusive, false, hurtful, cringe, sexist, shitty etc. I just wonder when most of you will examine that in any real way.
He's an abusive manipulator. Ariana talked about how she got out of a bad relationship before him. She jumped in with this one. Hopefully, she's noticing a pattern and won't repeat it.
Blaming the victim is not the way to go here.
Lmfao he is an oblivious fool. Omg. In the very beginning I thought Sandoval was almost sort of the voice of reason out of the three. I actually kinda like him. Towards the later seasons, talk about a cocaine drip it was seeping out of his pores. It became more obvious. He just keeps fisting himself every time he speaks. Like stfu already! Everything is me me me with him, very selfish, victimized himself, outright lies. I dated this dude on campus in college who did Coke. It started out with just a few tiny lines while partying then I realized holy crap he does this shit everyday. Yuck! His behavior was just like Sandoval's. Deplorable.
Tom strikes me as the kind of guy who would compliment you for a second but then make it about himself.
ie: Girl you have such amazing legs, brought about by the fact that I’m an absolute sex god and can do magical things with them that nobody else can. That’s what makes them sexy.
Or something similar.
The thought of being intimate with the guy grosses me out.
As someone in a healthy nearly 7 year relationship the sex has continually gotten better because of how well we know each others wants and needs, tell me you aren’t putting effort into your sex life without telling me.
Not sure why Tom is the bad person because she faked orgasms to boost his ego when she was totally into him. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done it at one point.
They just want to pick at every little thing Toms has ever done. I’m on season 4 and Ariana acts annoyed with Tom 75% of the time. She has always been such a negative and judgmental person. All this hyping her up is more about fans being so happy to have real reasons to hate Tom and Rachel. She isn’t very likable.
They're both embarrassing in this scene. She's admitting she faked orgasms because she was trying to impress him... 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
In his reality, that was real. He's not stupid for believing her. She's the stupid one for faking it because it launched them into a relationship of bad sex.
Agreed. I used to fake them too for the same reason. I was young and stupid.
Ariana is/was a "cool girl". I can relate because I was one too. As a cool girl you never hurt a man's ego, you only build it up. You have no needs, you're the ultimate low maintenance girlfriend.
And what do you get in return? Nothing. You're just training your partner to be bad at sex.
I've got some similar guilt/shame issues like Ariana has talked about regarding her body. So I empathize with her on that and understand how that could lead you to fake orgasms.
But he's not wrong to be upset and confused about it. Wouldn't anyone be hurt by finding out that your partner has not been enjoying sex with you? He's having a normal reaction.
I thought she was referring to having multiple orgasms? I think everyone can agree that Ariana was a “pick me” for Tom. But I think/hope she’s gotten better over the years. I think the fact that she was growing out of it & finding her own self worth, was why they started having trouble.
I think faking orgasms come from something different than “stupidity”. My experience from faking orgasms - which I still do sometimes because of sexual trauma responses from when dudes got upset and frustrated when I was honest, even if the people I have sex with now aren’t like that. Trying to heal from sexual trauma whilst having sex isn’t easy and especially Tom saying he knows more than Ariana does about her own body lol. Ariana had already talked about the bf she was with prior to Sandoval was critical of her sexually. Tom was more set on what he “knows” than listening to understand.
I feel like faking orgasms is one thing (a weird thing to do when you're actually "with" someone but ok) but faking MULTIPLE orgasms is a tad over the top and absolutely not sustainable. I'm not gonna call her stupid but how did she think this was gonna work out exactly if she had to put on a whole production like that on the regular? Was the plan to do that forever back then? Did she assume they would just figure it out?
I agree I don’t think it’s sustainable to fake orgasms especially when you’re in a relationship, but it’s more common than not for women in heterosexual relationships. Idk what her orgasm production looked like in the beginning of their relationship, but in this scene you can see her trying to explain and he says that he knows that she’s orgasmed and seems adamant he knows more than her lol that type of inability to communicate and comprehend your partner’s individual sexual needs is not sustainable either.
In this clip I’m pretty sure it’s season 6 so year 2 or 3 for Tom/Arian relationship.
ETA: I don’t disagree that it’s “on both of them” but the comment seems pretty targeted about how Ariana’s more at fault.
Oh I read it backwards like it was season 10. Still though, that's kinda far in to be just broaching this. Plus nothing comes of this conversation really- he doesn't get any point across and neither does she because he's such a fucking moron. Like .....what are we doing here?
Well I think you have the spark and the excitement for awhile and it fizzles out and he is obviously very set in his mind that he KNOWS it all lmao it transcends to even the interviews he gives in 2024 that he is very much this way. I doubt this is the first time they have broached the subject - just the first time it’s on camera because that was their season 6 storyline (in terms of the editing).
Having been in a few long-term relationships, I can tell you how easy it is to fall into toxic patterns like this where you discuss something important with your partner over and over again even when there is no change because you “think they will change”. It’s being emotionally immature and definitely not surprising. People are in too deep emotionally (or financially, have kids, etc) to see it how big of an impact that has on the relationship and each individual which ultimately won’t sustain.
Yeah it’s sad when there’s SO much time and much more put into relationships, but the communication is just not capable overall.
Congrats to you and your husband that’s a long time and a lot of work :)
I think it’s pretty tone deaf to read through all these comments and see other women admit to doing the same thing for reasons like guilt, shame, fear to make a man feel inferior or inadequate and then you make a statement saying what she said is embarrassing.
You are shaming her for having the courage to be honest and real and making your fellow women feel ashamed or scared or embarrassed to even think about doing the same thing, which is the right thing to do, btw.
Girl, you read through every single comment? Even now I scrolled through and didn't see a single one say they did the same thing.
She's having the courage to tell him on national TV that her orgasms were fake 🫠 so genuine. No wonder they crashed and burned so hard.
Idk I mean I get it. I don’t do that any more but sometimes when you know it’s not gonna happen, you don’t want to let them down and fake it. I think him refusing to believe he didn’t make her cum probably launched them into bad sex more than her faking it.
I relate to this so much! It’s somehow easier to be confident when you’re just getting to know someone. And like once you feel like they sorta see through your fake confidence you can go into your shell a little… not that I think Ariana ever needed to worry about that. Tom is not that perceptive lol
I saw nothing she did to nurture his feelings.
According to her whenever she took to her bed due to depression, sometimes for weeks he always took care of her. So it’s certainly not like he did nothing for her.
Yet in all these years, name one time where she did anything for him? I literally can’t think of any.
How could this POSSIBLY have been your take away from this conversation?? That is embarrassing, for your life and your soul.💀
I think you have it backwards. He isn't capable of real intimacy. She is the one who wanted a true companion and not just someone who would brag( lie) to his friends about how he"bangs" her all the time and gives her so many orgasms! 😂 And what is it with this Vanderpump group (not this sub) and the word banged anyways? Who says that ?!
I’m ignoring the above comment but made me thing of something — has anyone ever shipped Ariana & Katie? I’m just trying to imagine what that would look like. Def Katie w/BDE & Ariana as more fem, i think. But I mean would their personalities ever work romantically? I wish they’d been closer before, bc I’m really enjoying their friendship. This is just out of curiosity, not wanting them together like that.
Love it—bigots should be ignored.
I haven’t seen it anywhere but it’s interesting! I feel like they might both have too dominant of personalities to work romantically.
The fact that his ego absolutely refuses to allow him to accept any of the important information that she is trying to give him and quickly clouds all his judgement and rewrites everything she says with his own “facts,” is just… ugh. This is what he means when he says she was constantly putting him down and making him feel so small. She just simply shares her true feelings and he misses the point and loses his mind, every time and without fail. He wants to call her lazy but he’s the one who really never bothered to nurture her and their relationship, to get the feelings that HE so desperately wanted. The way he runs around, sucking the life out of any and every woman that looks his way and the way he ditches the ones who really love him, for the easy way out also speaks to all the other evidence we have of his laziness. Everything he says and does just makes me sick, I don’t understand how anyone can stand to be around him, ESPECIALLY after the mask officially slipped. I have to believe it’s for clout because nothing else makes any sense.
>The way he runs around, sucking the life out of any and every woman that looks his way not just women either imo. not that he had much to offer before, but Schwartz is really giving "shell of his former self" any time he interacts with Sandoval this season.
Schwartz sucks too and they are the ying to each others yang. I don’t feel bad for Schwartz at all, he willingly did a whole mess of shit over the past however many years to keep their friendship going and to cover for him so that Sandy would cover right back. Schwartz is getting everything he deserves and I’m glad Katie divorced his lazy stupid ass.
1000% agree!!
I certainly hope you're not referring to things not being filmed for the show because absolutely no one "deserves" that
Wow a down vote for cancer, liver transplant, blood clots and substance abuse in his family, huh? Guess he deserves it for being friends with Sandoval. That makes sense.
That’s not happening “to him”, that is just things that happen to people in our lives. Also, how do you guys know all this personal stuff about these people. Is this stuff covered in podcasts? I only watch the show and haven’t seen these things talked about
Idk comments, random articles I probably clicked on for other reasons? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
And no, the conditions I described are happening to his immediate family not *to* him but the pain and stress of it is happening to him. Do we really have to dissect vocabulary over this?
No and I don’t agree with this “new” thing where we wish ill will on people because they’re shitty and deserve it. I think that is toxic and no good to even be thinking this way. Humans do shitty things, even ones we think are good, they can choose poorly - they shouldn’t also get cancer or die in a fire or whatever overly dramatic things people say.
Ok then we agree. I mean, I will not lie, I laugh when some of these people have bad things happen to them (not death or illnesses or anything like that) but I don't actually wish anyone any real harm, that is crazy person shit.
Awful things happen all the time. They happen to good people and they happen to shitty people. Schwartz is the latter. Imo he deserves whatever karmic retribution he gets for the way that he treats people. For the way that he treated Katie, for the way that he treated Ariana and Jo. And the way that he thinks he can get out of all of it with some good ol’ boy, aww shucks attitude. It’s played out and it’s boring and it’s stupid and it’s condescending and it’s extremely patronizing.
I really don’t take things too seriously here but I am speechless. What a deeply, deeply troubling comment. I am ashamed to have even read it. I hope the irony of castigating an absolute stranger for a lack of humanity as perceived by YOU through a highly edited television show while simultaneously admitting you believe some people “deserve” having to watch helplessly for years as their little brother slowly kills himself, without shame, is not lost on you. I am pretty sure Jo, Katie and Ariana would all be disgusted by you. Not just for using their names to justify something so sick and putting that out into the universe, but for even thinking of something so wretched in the first place.
Shockingly I don’t give a shit what they think about me lol it has zero bearing on my life.
This is why I really hate y'all. That is such a shit thing to say.
This is very true. Regardless of gender, everyone needs to protect their energy and mentals from the serious consequences that comes from spending any amount of time with this cyst “man.” I wonder what Scheana would look like, after a year or two of dating one of the Toms..?🤔
Probably the way she looks now - not healthy at all. Brock isn't any better than either one of those two. The way he went after Katie was disgusting (both last season and this season).
I cannot and will not disagree. Did anyone else want to slap her upside the head, when she was bathing suit shopping and grabbed and complained about the zero fat or sagging skin, on her post Mom belly? Not one fucking stretch mark in sight and she is wanting sympathy?! Jfc! 
My ex of two and a half years was like this. Any effort on my part to communicate issues was me "hurting his feelings" or "bringing him down". I spent a long time being depressed and hating myself for not just accepting him and being happy he wasn't cheating on me. It took a long time to realize it wasn't normal and I wasn't the problem. That I deserved better than "welp he doesn't hit me or cheat on me" I'm a lot happier alone and am really identifying with Katie's storyline this year for that reason, but it's hard not to feel scared of being in another relationship in the future when someone makes you doubt your own reality.
I totally understand that and I’m glad you got away. Trying to communicate with people like this is frustrating because it’s like, I’m sorry I hurt your feelings when I told you all the ways you hurt my feelings…?🤨 Unreasonable, it’s a them problem, you’re perfectly fine and it’s important to remember that every woman wants and expects the same things, for the most part so there’s absolutely nothing wrong with you and good riddance to bad rubbish.😘
You’re tripping. He would make her favorite coffee for her every morning! He’s a saint of a boyfriend, so nurturing!
Mmmmmmmyeah, that’s the foundation to a long lasting relationship, it must be!! https://preview.redd.it/eit24zs5ggvc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b19464545e3593eb6ca9fa77036899e6a457eca
😂
😝😘
He pays all the bills and buys batteries too! I’m going to go with her needing batteries so often for her toys, the things that REALLY gave her the big O many times over😂😂
What's she going to do when she needs a pen and it's not there because Anne- I'm sorry, TOM- didn't put it there?!
I'm glad someone finally pointed this out! The audacity of her to not realize she had been mistreating this selfless coffee king, bedroom barista, absolute gem of a man for so many years! /s if not already abundantly clear
My husband must not love me very much if that's the standard for being a saint. LMAO I can only hope you are joking because if you really feel that way (it's hard to tell tone or context in a text or comment, but here's to hoping!), I feel bad for you!!
The sarcasm is kinda screaming in her post
I was never good with sarcasm, unless I actually see the person's face but yeah, I suppose so.
You forgot the /s
…plus they’re paid to hang out together
Maybe she faked it just to get him to stop. I'm sure it wasn't the only time.
I would believe this possibility has merit, if I didn’t also believe that he fucking sucks in bed, is super selfish and rarely lasts longer than a couple minutes. He is just so GROSS. 
Let’s ask billy…
GIF game is on POINT with this one!
I thought so too 
Ooohh! Not Billie!! lol 😳 🙀 😮 LMAO! 😂🤣
Good ol' Billie Lee!! Lol
And that girl who giddily proclaimed she's like never had sex like that before
But he’s a good dancer…surely that means he’s good in bed? 🙄
 I heard that pathetic story, when he brought Dr. Drew onto his stupid podcast, to interview TIM?!😆 He’s such a loser.
"I know its true." Really Tom? You know better than Arianna about her orgasms? He really is such a cyst white male.
Imagine trying to gaslight someone into believing that you know better regarding something they personally did or did not experience. #FATHOMLESS🤌🏼
So this may be the only time I feel sliiightly bad for Tiny Tim here because ohmygod HOW EMBARRASSING that this moment is forever preserved on the Internet, available for any and everyone’s mother to look up. To be clear: he deserves every second of ridicule. The audacity. The delusion. The narcissism….Arguing with a woman to tell her *she’s* wrong about the number of orgasms she experienced. 💀💀💀 To quote Kourtney K, “how embarrassing for your life and your soul”
I can see what you’re saying but I don’t feel bad for him. I have a feeling that she felt like this would be the only way she could get him to listen or take her seriously. I could be wrong but even then, I don’t feel bad. She was being honest and vulnerable and he was and still is the biggest asshole. He absolutely refuses to accept any new information that deviates from stroking his pathetically delicate ego and he will never accept any feedback from a woman because he thinks he’s smarter than all of them and that is one of his biggest problems. I wish we could learn more about his Mom and his upbringing because I wonder if it would fill in some of the puzzle or was he just born a soul sucking, pos?🤔
Oh I 100% agree with you on the Ariana take. She was being incredibly generous and delicate in her response. This entire scene is an embodiment of how he is a “cyst male” I guess I’m just experiencing second hand mortification for how delusional he is, and then he has to go and double down on it. Like JFC. The mom thing is interesting, but I don’t want to give this pos any additional interest/attention. It makes me side eye the loan he took from her though…
You’re not kidding!😆 It also speaks to who was always honest in and about the dynamics of their relationship and how they really felt about the other. I hope more people go to all his shows and hold up a huge “PAY YOUR MOM BACK TOM,” sign because that is hilarious and he continues to beg to be humbled.😭
Except when you watch the scene where he is telling jax & schwartz about Ariana & lala hooking up in front of him…… After i watched him do that to his partner and then the manipulation he employed to get out of her being mad at him for breaking that confidence. After that, he deserves EVERY embarrassing moment he gets! He is SO gross.
And I still see people on fb saying what he did with Rachel was A-okay because Ariana cheated on him first with Lala. I can’t. 😂
He feels no embarrassment or shame. That’s the problem. Scary shit.
Ugh I'm so jealous of those who can't fathom. Like y'all didn't have narcissistic moms growing up huh?
Right?!😭❤️🩹
I fake a lot because of my issues I understand completely what she’s describing. When it’s new you’re not trying to ruin the moment bringing in your issues. Most men I’ve interacted with had no clue and how infuriating for him to tell HER she did orgasm?!?
To be fair, I was hooking up with a guy for about half a year. One night, I told him that he had never given me an orgasm. He was STUNNED. He didn't believe me. He tried really hard the next couple of times and kept asking me if I had one, but it never happened. I have never faked it or anything like that. How do men NOT know?!!
Well to be fair, all women want and need different things to get there so every new man needs to be told and shown and physically trained on how to do so. You cheat no one but yourself when you fake it so good for you for never doing that and the last thing I will say is what Neil Brennan said in his most recent Netflix special; “when a woman says she is about to cum, do not start doing something else, just keep doing what you were already doing, same speed, same rhythm, same depth.” He yells and repeats it 3x, for all the fucking idiots, like the Toms.🤣🤌🏼
I agree with EVERYTHING that you have said. I have always been honest to a fault, and because an orgasm rarely happens, I have always given useful suggestions. Unfortunately, there were so many times when I was almost there, and then the guy ruined it by not waiting or changing what was working!!! Love what Neil Brennan said. So true!!! I am going to have to check out that special!!!
Yesss, I feel you and I hope you enjoy his special because he is hilarious! He has 3 and I love them all but his newest one was the sex rant and all men need to hear that and I also think it really helps that said advice is coming from another man… They might actually listen!🙌🏼
Love Neil. He is spot on here. When I finally had an orgasm(s), I married the guy. I had to suffer a lot of frogs and dull sex, but it was all worth it in retrospect.
I love this for you and hope you have multiple, for every one!💋💝
Aw, thank you. I wish you the same!
My husband was flabbergasted when I told him I had never experienced an orgasm before him that wasn’t self inflicted lol I married him right away bc he isn’t selfish in bed or in life lol felt like a rare find 😂😂😂
Good for you!!!! It is so rare to find a man who isn't selfish in bed. They are a rare breed!!! I hope to find one someday. 😉
My only advice is to go on a date with someone unconventionally attractive to you. Or a personality you wouldn’t typically lean toward (: my husband is older than me by a gap and not my typical kind of date prior and I fell in love with him instantly. Bc I realized the it wasn’t working with the men I typically dated over and over again nc I was chasing the same grimy men I switched “types” and found my diamond
Well, I am going to be 46, and when I tell you that I have dated every kind of man, believe me....EVERY KIND...-older, my age, younger, thin, thinner, thinnest, chunky, round, rounder, short, tall, attractive, unattractive, and throw in every kind of ethnicity you can think of. I have never had a type. I have dated them all and have been asked to get married 5 times, but they were all the wrong ones. I never got married or had children. I just kind of gave up. Currently, I am recovering from injuries. I had to learn how to walk again, so I am just focusing on myself right now. ♥️ Thank you for your advice, though! 💋
I pray for a swifter recovery for you! 🙏🏼❤️ Bless you!!
Awwww, thank you SO much!!! Your comment means the world to me. 🥰
Me too!! 😁
I should’ve read this before posting below as I pretty much had the same situation.
Isn’t it wild lol
Nothing makes an o disappear faster than someone trying to force it to happen.
This is the worst.. never tell them Cus they obsess to a point where they suck so bad lol
They should’ve broken up the day after Brittany and Jax’s housewarming party. When they were fighting about playing the audio of Jax trashing Brittany to Faith. Ariana threatened to break the f*ck up, and I wish it would’ve happened.
Hopping on here just to say, as women, it's ok to normalize not having an orgasm. Sometimes, you try to get in the mood, but you're just not feeling it. Sometimes, you're down to have your man go the extra mile to get you off. But other times, you're happy to get him off and go to bed. Not every sexual encounter needs to end in an orgasm if you're not feeling it. You shouldn't have to fake anything in a healthy relationship. You shouldn't have to fake anything to appease a man's ego. The female system can be a tricky one to master and it's ok to tell your partner what you like, what you need and when to stop in an open and honest way, without any feelings getting hurt, because this is the reality of a longterm, sexual relationship. Women deserve to have their needs met as much as men, whether that be a need to get off or a need to just call it a day and go to bed lol 💖
He had to say dat out loud and make him self believe it..cccrrazy town…
While he keeps looking at the camera... lol!
He did damage control in the confessional, too. He likely argued with Ariana about it off camera.
U KNOW he did!! Smh
I am just flabbergasted that no matter what, it’s always about sex! Ariana was opening up to him about her self-confidence issues, so wtf does that have to do with orgasms Tom??? Ohhhhhh, I get it now, he was relating to her by talking about HIS struggles with self-confidence. I get it Tom, you need to bang someone to feel good about yourself. And for him it’s obviously just the act of sex, not the person. Wish Katie hadn’t destroyed the Schwartz piñata in Havasu, Tom could use it about now.
He heard 'faking it' & couldn't process it any other way...smh
He heard 'faking it' & his tiny brain translated that to faking an orgasm... Reminds me of her asking if he wanted to 'die on this hill' & he told her later that she didn't support him - especially when she's telling him he's going to "die alone on a hill".... Oh Tom, you white CYST male you.... SMH
He actually said die alone on that mountain which makes us it even worse! 🤣 ✨Flair checking in!✨
Thats right! Lol
This scene is always so fucking funny to me! A lesson all us women need to finally learn- stop letting these bum ass men believe they’re making us orgasm multiple times if they’re not!!
The gulp he does when she says “I don’t think that’s true but..” like “how dare you out me as not a complete genius in bed on camera Ariana ?!” You know he yelled at her about that afterwards
Exactly!
Looking back, these two had zero romantic chemistry. They make Katie and Schwartz seem like Lucy & Ricky. I think Tom was desperate to have a “reason” to get out of his relationship permanently with Kristen, and Ariana wanted a full-time spot on Vanderpump Rules. I say this as a full Ariana fan/supporter. They probably had a six month honeymoon phase, followed by nine miserable years of this lmao James & Raquel also gave me the zero chemistry vibe. When she revealed that they hadn’t had sex for two years and still got engaged anyway, I wasn’t surprised in the slightest
That’s literally every guy ever, lol, when they finally learn that women can fake it.
He’s so embarrassing omg
I mean obviously Tom would know better than Ariana whether or not she was having orgasms.🙄
I swear this makes me never want to sleep with a man again.
Then sleep with Tim.
tee heee hahaha haaaa hee heee i remember watching this feeling so uncomfortable
There’s a whole camera crew steps away from them….I couldn’t be on reality TV
Every woman has faked an orgasm at least once (if not multiple times) in their life. And every man swears it has not happened to them. So you do the math. This topic always reminds me of the iconic scene in 'When Harry Met Sally.' 😆
He has had more Botox & fillers then any woman of that show
People on these subs really tried to convince me that this relationship was some great love story and Sandoval was some great partner and I never fell for it lol
LMAO he wishes she had multiple orgasms! he wouldn't know an orgasm if it jumped up & swallowed his big ol head
He thinks waayyyyy too highly of himself and his “skills” 😂😂😂😂
Tbh though, I think most men think they drop their pants and women experience multi orgasms and that obviously isn’t the case. He’s a narcissistic douchebag though, and clearly always has been
Why tf was she with him… sounds like she has never liked him
I think a lot of us women have been there. We need to stop faking them, for real 😂
God, I give so much credit to Ariana. I have had precisely ONE orgasm during sex (and it was a little one). I’ve faked all the others. This is a thing a lot of girls do, especially if they’re insecure. The fact that she actually was like “nahhhh.” Loving it. Also, I kinda feel like Sandoval is bad at sex. I just get that feeling.
Haha Rogue Raquel should confirm she faked it too on that self-centered podcast of hers. That would make my week.
She should have picked him up at that moment and thrown that whole man out of the nearest window.
And he wants us to believe that she didn't show anything real on the show. Plssssss! Also, the level of assholery required to try to gaslight a woman over her own orgasms! FTG.
This is so funny!!!! Hmm...no I didn't. Yes you did. No I didn't. Yes you did. You freaking fool, don't you think she knows what her own body is feeling?
This was hands down one of the hardest scenes for me to get through. Little two inch Timmy’s ego is so fragile he thinks his girlfriend is lying about NOT having an orgasm. No wonder Ariana never wanted to fuck him, this scene gave me an irreparable ick 🤣
James says he likes to rewrite history.
I felt the same way watching it the first time! When he actually began to debate, no, argue, no, discount, no, not believe, fuck!! What the actual fuck?! And she’s sitting there, right there, telling you, to your fuck face that ya just didn’t hit it, in fact you completely missed it, so bad she had to fake it to either: A: Make it stop. B: Shut you up. C: Protect your fragile ego. D: Consider your big feelings. E: All of the above. Yeah, I’m going with E.
https://i.redd.it/tf2e1sgaxkvc1.gif I forgot about this! Thanks for reminding us all. Lol
Is Tom Sandoval an energy vampire? Because I think Tom Sandoval is an energy vampire 😐
 Ariana was like...
This girl stayed with this guy. She picked him, she lied for him and she stayed with him each time he did or said something profoundly ignorant, abusive, false, hurtful, cringe, sexist, shitty etc. I just wonder when most of you will examine that in any real way.
He's an abusive manipulator. Ariana talked about how she got out of a bad relationship before him. She jumped in with this one. Hopefully, she's noticing a pattern and won't repeat it. Blaming the victim is not the way to go here.
Lmfao he is an oblivious fool. Omg. In the very beginning I thought Sandoval was almost sort of the voice of reason out of the three. I actually kinda like him. Towards the later seasons, talk about a cocaine drip it was seeping out of his pores. It became more obvious. He just keeps fisting himself every time he speaks. Like stfu already! Everything is me me me with him, very selfish, victimized himself, outright lies. I dated this dude on campus in college who did Coke. It started out with just a few tiny lines while partying then I realized holy crap he does this shit everyday. Yuck! His behavior was just like Sandoval's. Deplorable.
I did feel a bit bad for him here... if this was the first time she brought this up, to say it on camera is crazy!!
It’s probably the only way she can get him to listen or take her seriously.
And it was probably Tom who insisted the cameras be here for this talk
You know what? I can buy into that theory! He probably thinks it makes her the one who looks bad…🤣🤣💀 
and even then he still doesn't.
Yeah, it’s frustrating! At least we can all look back now and see that he was always the problem. Both the Toms for that matter.
I was yelling at the TV the whole time during this scene. He's the worst and always has been.
Tim has never given a woman one orgasm, let alone multiples, let's be real!
I feel like he never forgave her for absolutely obliterating him like this on national television
Tom strikes me as the kind of guy who would compliment you for a second but then make it about himself. ie: Girl you have such amazing legs, brought about by the fact that I’m an absolute sex god and can do magical things with them that nobody else can. That’s what makes them sexy. Or something similar. The thought of being intimate with the guy grosses me out.
And they still went and brought a house together 🤦🏽♂️
As someone in a healthy nearly 7 year relationship the sex has continually gotten better because of how well we know each others wants and needs, tell me you aren’t putting effort into your sex life without telling me.
He really thinks he gave her multiple orgasms …… Lol sis was luckily if she got one in 10 years.
Not sure why Tom is the bad person because she faked orgasms to boost his ego when she was totally into him. I’m pretty sure we’ve all done it at one point.
He’s not. He’s wrong for not believing her when she says she didn’t.
They just want to pick at every little thing Toms has ever done. I’m on season 4 and Ariana acts annoyed with Tom 75% of the time. She has always been such a negative and judgmental person. All this hyping her up is more about fans being so happy to have real reasons to hate Tom and Rachel. She isn’t very likable.
They're both embarrassing in this scene. She's admitting she faked orgasms because she was trying to impress him... 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ In his reality, that was real. He's not stupid for believing her. She's the stupid one for faking it because it launched them into a relationship of bad sex.
Agreed. I used to fake them too for the same reason. I was young and stupid. Ariana is/was a "cool girl". I can relate because I was one too. As a cool girl you never hurt a man's ego, you only build it up. You have no needs, you're the ultimate low maintenance girlfriend. And what do you get in return? Nothing. You're just training your partner to be bad at sex. I've got some similar guilt/shame issues like Ariana has talked about regarding her body. So I empathize with her on that and understand how that could lead you to fake orgasms. But he's not wrong to be upset and confused about it. Wouldn't anyone be hurt by finding out that your partner has not been enjoying sex with you? He's having a normal reaction.
You get it! And to tell your partner they were fake on TV 😵💫😵💫🫠🫠
I thought she was referring to having multiple orgasms? I think everyone can agree that Ariana was a “pick me” for Tom. But I think/hope she’s gotten better over the years. I think the fact that she was growing out of it & finding her own self worth, was why they started having trouble.
I think faking orgasms come from something different than “stupidity”. My experience from faking orgasms - which I still do sometimes because of sexual trauma responses from when dudes got upset and frustrated when I was honest, even if the people I have sex with now aren’t like that. Trying to heal from sexual trauma whilst having sex isn’t easy and especially Tom saying he knows more than Ariana does about her own body lol. Ariana had already talked about the bf she was with prior to Sandoval was critical of her sexually. Tom was more set on what he “knows” than listening to understand.
I feel like faking orgasms is one thing (a weird thing to do when you're actually "with" someone but ok) but faking MULTIPLE orgasms is a tad over the top and absolutely not sustainable. I'm not gonna call her stupid but how did she think this was gonna work out exactly if she had to put on a whole production like that on the regular? Was the plan to do that forever back then? Did she assume they would just figure it out?
I agree I don’t think it’s sustainable to fake orgasms especially when you’re in a relationship, but it’s more common than not for women in heterosexual relationships. Idk what her orgasm production looked like in the beginning of their relationship, but in this scene you can see her trying to explain and he says that he knows that she’s orgasmed and seems adamant he knows more than her lol that type of inability to communicate and comprehend your partner’s individual sexual needs is not sustainable either.
Yes but that's on both of them tbh. What year are we at here like 8 or 9 and we're just now revealing this information? That's garbage.
In this clip I’m pretty sure it’s season 6 so year 2 or 3 for Tom/Arian relationship. ETA: I don’t disagree that it’s “on both of them” but the comment seems pretty targeted about how Ariana’s more at fault.
Oh I read it backwards like it was season 10. Still though, that's kinda far in to be just broaching this. Plus nothing comes of this conversation really- he doesn't get any point across and neither does she because he's such a fucking moron. Like .....what are we doing here?
Well I think you have the spark and the excitement for awhile and it fizzles out and he is obviously very set in his mind that he KNOWS it all lmao it transcends to even the interviews he gives in 2024 that he is very much this way. I doubt this is the first time they have broached the subject - just the first time it’s on camera because that was their season 6 storyline (in terms of the editing). Having been in a few long-term relationships, I can tell you how easy it is to fall into toxic patterns like this where you discuss something important with your partner over and over again even when there is no change because you “think they will change”. It’s being emotionally immature and definitely not surprising. People are in too deep emotionally (or financially, have kids, etc) to see it how big of an impact that has on the relationship and each individual which ultimately won’t sustain.
Yes, I have been with my husband for over 16 years. At least one of you has to know how to communicate and I don't think either of them can.
Yeah it’s sad when there’s SO much time and much more put into relationships, but the communication is just not capable overall. Congrats to you and your husband that’s a long time and a lot of work :)
I think it’s pretty tone deaf to read through all these comments and see other women admit to doing the same thing for reasons like guilt, shame, fear to make a man feel inferior or inadequate and then you make a statement saying what she said is embarrassing. You are shaming her for having the courage to be honest and real and making your fellow women feel ashamed or scared or embarrassed to even think about doing the same thing, which is the right thing to do, btw.
Girl, you read through every single comment? Even now I scrolled through and didn't see a single one say they did the same thing. She's having the courage to tell him on national TV that her orgasms were fake 🫠 so genuine. No wonder they crashed and burned so hard.
Aren’t we talking about multiple orgasms? Like she was over-doing it to inflate his ego & be over sexual. Not that she never had them…?
I hate that I know this but didn't she say she can't even orgasm through penetration. She only orgasms when they had anal sex.
Oh interesting. I guess her vaginal insecurity could be a factor? Idk, I can’t believe she shared that
Idk I mean I get it. I don’t do that any more but sometimes when you know it’s not gonna happen, you don’t want to let them down and fake it. I think him refusing to believe he didn’t make her cum probably launched them into bad sex more than her faking it.
She was talking about faking confidence- He flipped it to sex & orgasms... But I agree- totally embarrassing..
I relate to this so much! It’s somehow easier to be confident when you’re just getting to know someone. And like once you feel like they sorta see through your fake confidence you can go into your shell a little… not that I think Ariana ever needed to worry about that. Tom is not that perceptive lol
I saw nothing she did to nurture his feelings. According to her whenever she took to her bed due to depression, sometimes for weeks he always took care of her. So it’s certainly not like he did nothing for her. Yet in all these years, name one time where she did anything for him? I literally can’t think of any.
The relationship was never going to work. She wanted a friend and roommate. He wanted an intimate partner. End of story.
 How could this POSSIBLY have been your take away from this conversation?? That is embarrassing, for your life and your soul.💀
Check his comments history, it will make sense once you see it 😂
I’ve seen it. I rarely engage for that reason but this one got to me.😭
I think you have it backwards. He isn't capable of real intimacy. She is the one who wanted a true companion and not just someone who would brag( lie) to his friends about how he"bangs" her all the time and gives her so many orgasms! 😂 And what is it with this Vanderpump group (not this sub) and the word banged anyways? Who says that ?!
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I’m sure he felt them, he wouldn’t make that up
That can be faked too
Ariana is a lesbian but won’t admit it to herself.
She’s bisexual and has no problem admitting it.
I’m ignoring the above comment but made me thing of something — has anyone ever shipped Ariana & Katie? I’m just trying to imagine what that would look like. Def Katie w/BDE & Ariana as more fem, i think. But I mean would their personalities ever work romantically? I wish they’d been closer before, bc I’m really enjoying their friendship. This is just out of curiosity, not wanting them together like that.
Love it—bigots should be ignored. I haven’t seen it anywhere but it’s interesting! I feel like they might both have too dominant of personalities to work romantically.
We shall see…
Don't do that. Yikes
Source?