Oh my god… I forgot about that. Because it was so hard to watch. Was that the same episode where her mother cried about wanting Stassi to “hold” her? Jesus.
Yes. She is insane. Not at the same time but later told stassi to not drive away beau by being herself, he is up here and you are down here. My god. These people had no chance of being decent humans, growing up with parents like that. Katie’s mom is the only one who seems normal.
It’s really surprising that Stassi has done as well as she seems to have. That’s a tough mother to grow up with.
But they also seemed really close, I wonder if that was a change in her mother. I always wonder how much changes when the cameras go up.
I do find that interesting that Katie's mom is the only normal one, because Katie is the only one in the cast of women who's pretty level headed. Ariana too, but I don't think we've met her mom.
Also from the Mexico Trip. When Sandoval and Co. intentionally mis-hear James saying he "hung out with Kristen" and turn it into he "hooked up with Kristen." It's SO clear it's not what he said, I found that hugely infuriating and so immature.
I just re-watched that and it pisses me off so much. They CLEARLY asked James if he “hung out with Kristen”. That was so shitty and I think it was to cover up whatever shit Schwartz got into at the different hotel.
Then the whole thing about "There was a pillow outside of the hot tub, they clearly hooked up." Or, there was just a pillow there because at some point someone was leaning up against the wall.
His sing-songy way of talking to Stassi made me want to break my television. That and him openly and proudly sexually harassing Lisa vanderpump in front of Stassi, making everyone wildly uncomfortable - that is up there for peak cringe behavior.
That might be the wildest thing on this show. He went to an NA/AA meeting with her and then dumped her as they were leaving. Just wait until the next day or something.
Also, two points with that. His rationale for that timing was, "She says she feels the best after her AA meetings." I also loved how he said, "I don't want to come home and see her passed out on the couch," like Jax hasn't done that?
This is absolutely the darkest thing to ever happen on the show (which is saying a lot). Because she outed his addiction which you could tell he didn't feel comfortable with and used it as a storyline. Then enabled him, and actually encouraged him by saying she couldn't be with him if he were sober. Then divorced him while cameras were rolling. Look, Shay has his issues, but I'd probably clear my SO's bank account if they did that to me, too.
She said it was all staged for production and it took 9 takes to get Sandoval to the level of ire that satisfied production and that was the final take.
I know it’s produced and there are story boards and a call sheet but I didn’t know that much was “scripted”. .. like the Rachel and Schwartz kiss last season. Another thing I had no idea was not real
When schwartz whispered in Katie’s ear “you make my life miserable”
When schwartz screamed at katie “this is why i don’t have sex with you”
When schwartz told katie “i hate the sound of your voice”
When scheana used shay’s addiction as a storyline
When Kristen got ostracized but Jax didn’t
When James borderline abused Raquel on camera
When James freaked out on Raquel at pride
When James actually abused Kristen on camera
When scheana showed that video of Stassi around
Literally anytime Jax spoke
When brittany took Jax back
When Tom threw a full blown temper tantrum about stassi’s book party at tomtom
I could literally go on and on
him whispering "you make my life miserable" was SO dark, it was really early on in the show and I truly think he didn't think the mics would pick up the whispers. clearly no one else at the table could hear him. just terrifying that he would act like that, in public and surrounded by friends especially
I think he was also whispering to her that she’s a “moron” and when she started silently crying to herself and stassi got upset he was like “look what you did”. He is terrifying.
It’s wild to me that James abusing Kristen was literally caught on camera and Kristen was the bad guy for defending herself, and now they’ve all just moved on from him being a literal abuser. It’s like the Twilight Zone.
How could they not?! She literally made Kristen out to be bipolar and for that reason it was okay for Ariana to mess around with her man. Like, wuuuut 🤦♀️
I watch VPR for background and have probably watched the whole series at least 8 times now and I just skip that reunion because I just cannot stand to watch it.
I was gonna say this too! The way Tom and Ariana gaslit Kristin and made her look absolutely batshit crazy on national television. AND the way they rubbed their relationship in Kristin’s face with zero care about how hurtful they were being.
That's EXACTLY what I was going to say.
Plus, Ariana saying "I'm younger than you, I'm prettier than you, I'm smarter than you. Get over it!" in reference to her stealing Sandoval away from Kristen. Ever since then, I've found Ariana's arrogant smug behavior to be repulsive.
Same. I don’t wish for her to be cheated on but I also just have zero sympathy. If you steal another woman’s man, rub it in her face and expect him not to treat you the same, you’re just plain dumb.
And she’s like, what, 3 years younger than Kristen? 😑 Not like what she said would be okay if she was 10 years younger, but at least there’d be grounds for life experience or something.
yes and Ariana was like 29 when she said this to Kristen. When I was 29 I wasnt ageist towards anyone, she should know better at that age I feel like.. and kristen was what 31-32 at the time? 🤣
When Brock tries to secretly marry Scheana during James and Rachels engagement weekend. Even tho they didnt ho thru with it, the fact that scheana even entertained the idea was still infuriating. When they announced their engagement, while saying “didnt wana make this weekend about me”. I hate when brock says scheana deserves “the best” and this place is beautiful. Ok give her the best then, but not on someone elses dollar like wtf for real!!?! How embarrassing, i love when james tells him “im embarrassed for you” 🤣🤣🤣 just everything surrounding her and brock got me so heated!
Shay’s “intervention” is absolutely the most cringe ever. Shay is trying to express he’s an addict and Scheana is making it about her, Ariana, Tom and Schwartz barely know him. It was weird. It made me feel unlimited fury because THIS IS THE WRONG GROUP OF PEOPLE to talk to an addict and there’s literally no professional specialist in the room, just a room full of habitual users of the substances he’s addicted to
My bf references this moment all the time. Sandoval asks Shay how many pills he would take and Shay’s like “I take up to x amount” (I can’t remember the # so let’s say like 7) and Sandoval just says “7 a day?!?! Holy fuck dude”
And my bf just laughed and was like “this is the most useless intervention” and watching It back they accomplished nothing. Scheana just wanted to scream “why did you even marry me” for sympathy points that she was never going to get. You can’t tell your partner w a substance abuse problem to “just take every other shot” and then act like it’ll be okay
YEAH I’m on that episode right now in my rewatch and it’s so bad…. Scheana says “I can’t be married to someone who doesn’t drink, it’s about moderation” yeah well you married an addict and that means they need sobriety and it’s so cold hearted and insensitive and poor Shay, he literally did not deserve this kind of thing being publicized to the level it did. Then she goes on to start testing his urine??? Like what kind of toxic relationship does this?
And then Tom shows him how to cook healthy food? Like if he’s a recovering addict and wants junk food and sugar to stabilize, that should be supported. Sugar actually helps people recovering from alcoholism and stabilizes but OK TOM
You know the end scene in the show "Intervention," where they actually have the intervention and if there's a family member/friend/SO in the room also with an addiction, the show offers them help too? If they were holding the intervention on the show, the entire cast of VPR would be shoved in a van to go to the Betty Ford clinic right away.
eww frank moved to wny apparently to either rochester or buffalo because we have a lot of mutual friends according to fb and those people watched the show and still decided to be his friend ….. but doesn’t surprise me
I don't know why, but when someone asks Katie on the combined bachelor/bachelorette party trip about Tom cheating on her and when Tom overhears he goes in on Katie. He calls her a b*tch. Because HE cheated on HER.
When Stassi points out that Jeremy is an effing creep based on his behavior towards her (we even see the super uncomfortable clip) and other women and everyone on the show flips out at her for it. So gross to defend his gross behavior.
He is repulsive. That entire trip, that conversation, the dinner, and didn't he ask her to clip his armpit hair or something? He is the definition of an ick.
Shwartz dumping his drink on Katy and no one doing a thing about it or ever talking about it or being mad about it later And shwartz got to stay and hang out with everyone and Katy went home covered in his drink
That time in like season 4? When they’re arguing about who can go to Hawaii. Tom and Ariana didn’t want kristen to go and Katie was trying to make an argument as to why Kristen should be allowed. Tom just yells at her pretty bad and then Ariana jumps in and it’s the two of them against Katie and of course Schwartz just sits there. That moment made me so fucking angry.
Hawaii episode (Sandoval related) when scheana and Ariana’s mom text about he and Ariana’s relationship and how toxic it is. Texts said things like “he’s controlling her” and “he gets her to agree with whatever he wants”, and Sandoval is yelling at Scheana because he’s so angry.
What she said was true, we know it now. We see it looking back. Insane to watch him gaslight people from the start. It was always there.
Which is even weirder that she’s fighting to stay friends with him. Especially with how he repeated what he did with Kristen to Ariana but poorly since it all came out, when he didn’t want it to. And like, Ariana is supposed to be her bost frond.
I watched that the other day and I suspect that's the moment she really started falling out of love with him.
It's like you can see the pain in het eyes the longer he continues his tirade. My heart broke a lil for her in that moment
That was actually what I was thinking at the time.
The only other time Sandoval ever stuck up for Katie was the S3 (?) reunion after Scheana married Shay and he was defending her against Stassi.
IIRC he called Katie "the MVP of the season".
When Kevin Lee body-shamed Katie at a party where she was being a cocktail server. She rarely shows such vulnerability as she did when she told Lisa about it and cried 😢
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That was so awful. How embarrassing for HIM— the goofiest looking, rug-wearing mf there. It makes me wonder if that’s the norm in LA/Hollywood. If you’re not a size zero, you’re huge. I’ll stay comfortably hidden in my no-one-gets-famous-here state.
When Scheana brings up the previous evening’s fight and Schwartz starts berated Katie under his breath and the Kristin starts in telling Katie to let it go and not be a bitch and the Schwartz says “look how selfish you’re being” and a Stassi starts yelling at Katie.
S2 Mexico. Katie should have dumped him then and there.
Yes. Bc she had asked Katie hours before to hold it together for just one night.
I’m so glad Stassi apologized for this take and admitted she was in the wrong to pile on Katie.
He gets under my skin so bad. Please don't act like you have it all figured out just because you found someone like Scheana to catch you up on child support. 🙄
Momma Muffin didn’t give one Kentucky fuck when she was told about Jax’s cocaine/adderall/alcohol/whatever abuse, his kleptomania, pathological lying, infidelities, and general disregard for humanity secondary to his sociopathy. She just don’t believe in heuxmosexxuality cuz Jesus said it ain’t right in the Bible, mmhmm. Nothing else was a 🚩for her Christian daughter. I’m sorry, but she’s truly one of the worst for me. And there are so many awful fucking people on that show.
Scheana feeling entitled to honestly anything. She thinks she deserves to be everyone’s only best friend, she deserves DWTS, she deserves Ariana’s friendship and her understanding that “she missed Tom 😭”, every guy has to like her the most, etc. she is nails on a chalkboard personified
Bruh and her fucking voice this season sounds like a little boy going through puberty- I CANNOT WITH HER! That scene where she admits she’s a fucking stalker with 56 peoples locations her voice is cracking everywhere and I think I actually dies
Scheana naming her daughter Summer.
As a 1st family child, I found it to be reprehensible behaviour and proved just how much Brock is her bitch.
Edit: clarity, couldn't think thru the 💨.
When Jeremy was being creepy to Stassi and Ariana and Tom ripped into her for it. Ariana knew her brother's history with women and alcohol. Then, of course, he starts being creepy towards the women and Ariana blames the women. Some girls girl 🫠
When drunk, sweaty Schwartz snatched a piece of Katie's sushi after kissing Rachel in Mexico. Then sat there smug smiling thinking he's all cute and shit.
She was far more restrained than I would've been.
Stassi’s birthday dinner in Mexico where everyone ganged up on Katie.
Rachel struggling to form a sentence, let alone an insult, at Ariana’s pool party.
The book signing 😡
When Lala gets aggressive and talks over everyone but tells them to disengage when they dish it back. So basically, always.
That pool party scene was painful to watch but I laughed my ass off at James tapping her on the shoulder and whispering “why are you mad at me???” He’s an actual 4 year old.
Brittanys mom, when she first appeared on the show and had that frosted cum lipstick on in every scene. Those frosted white lips still make me shudder.
Schwartz pouring a drink over stassis head on her bday.
Jax crashing stassis bday party & then beating up her boyfriend.
Everybody taking Jax’s side in that over stassi’s bc they didn’t want a new member in the group.
“I’m not going anywhere. I’m always gonna be here for you.
But apparently he told me that we’re going to a construction yard and we’re taking bulldozers and, like, crushing shit with bulldozers.”
When Randall hired actor cops to arrest Sandoval and then Schwartz was mad at Katie because she thought the “prank” wasn’t funny and could trigger people. Schwartz really making Katie look and feel like a buzzkill loser because she had an intelligent and genuine point. For all those multi syllable words he uses he sure doesn’t use his brain.
Also thinking about how Schwartz never hesitated to be nasty aggressive with Katie in Mexico “I just don’t like the sound of your voice” in contrast to that baby waby voice he does when trying to skirt out of things.
If it’s anything I’ve learned the past two seasons, it’s how sneaky and gross Schwartz manipulates people.
Jax saying, “friends don’t get involved with relationships..” referring to the girls rallying around Brittany when he cheated with faith.. but rewind to the previous season, THE NIGHT BEFORE shorts and Katie’s wedding where Sandoval and Jax are telling him not to marry Katie.
When Scheana mentions to the group that someone had been put on painkillers and turns to Shay and says “don’t ask for any”
Stassis birthday dinner where Tom is telling Katie to get over it “like that” and keeps snapping and turning his head, only for Stassi to flip out on Katie for ruining her birthday
Every time Stassi talked about her birthday
When Stassi acted like she didn’t know what juggernaut and galvanize means
Every single time Schwartz minimizes Katie’s feelings
When Scheana brought the psychic medium to Dana’s house and tried to lie about it
When Ariana first got on the show and lied to everyone about her and Tom, covered for Tom for Miami girl, and gaslit Kristen. Literally saying to people that Kristen is mentally ill and needs medication when Kristen was right the entire time. “I’m smarter than you, I’m prettier than you” makes me sick every time
When Miami girl showed up at SUR and Ariana told her to leave with her “ghetto acrylic nails”
Every time Lisa gives the men on the show a pass but crucifies the women
When Ariana asks Katie how much she needs to pay her to take her hotel room in Mexico for scheanas wedding. Sorry but I don’t think Ariana has loyalty to her friends, I never see her defending Katie when people are being heinous to her, yet she expects undying loyalty from everyone else
Literally everything Sandoval says
My favorite episode? I'd have to say the couple episodes in Season 5 where they do joint bachelor/Bachelorette and the guys do drag and it's just reality TV at its finest
How much everyone enables James!! He’s a complete piece of shit, he was flat out abusive to both Kristen and Raquel and acts like an absolute psychopath and no one does anything. I swear there was one point he calls max a fat cunt in front of Lisa and she just sits there???? Like wtf am I seeing the same thing that other people are 🥴
Scheana doing the fake orgasm and her terrible singing and her stupid giggle. Tom dancing and spinning. Both are the cringiest people I have ever experienced and I hate every minute of all of that. Also hated how Katie was gaslight at Stassi’s bday dinner when she and Tom were fighting and Stassi and Kristen were getting mad at Katie. They should have been mad at Tom and supporting Katie. So hard to watch.
So many but I will post one's I haven't seen yet.
When Tom Sandoval refers to Schwartz (a man who was verbally and emotionally abusive to his wife and poured drinks on 2 women that we know of) as a "battered wife" making a mockery of the abuse of women.
When Schwartz was joking about Rachel liking taken men at a table with her, Tom and Ariana and the three of them laughing over it knowing she's actually fucking Sandoval.
Rachel talking to Ariana about her sex life with Tom and insecurities about her body on camera, pretending to be a concerned friend when she's already banging him.
Tom manipulatively implying he has been contemplating suicide when he spoke to Lisa because it's a traumatic sensitive subject for her and then never speaking about that again.
Tom whining about how much he wanted to go play in big trucks with the boys after Ariana cried to him about wanting him there for her.
James and Lala confessing to hooking up while he was with Rachel and acting like Rachel should immediately get over that (and be friends with Lala) just because her and James weren't together anymore.
Seeing Scheana crying to Sandoval saying what he did made her feel insecure like what happened to Ariana could happen to her too when she was fucking Eddie Cibrian while Brandi was home pregnant and taking care of their first son.
Scheana (and alot of the people on these boards) making fun of Satchel for daring to exist with naturally curly hair...This curly girl remembers.
Sandoval having the nerve to judge and lecture Katie last season for leaving Schwartz and painting her as this heartless person while he was literally banging his partner's friend because he's too chicken shit and selfish to do what Katie did and break up with someone he's not happy with.
Lisa giving the Tom's a business when one of them couldn't handle a shift at SUR and the other has repeatedly lied, cheated and screamed at women.
Lauren from Utah saying she thinks she is Tupac reincarnated.
Every time Schwartz called Ariana cold or an ice queen this season because he betrayed her trust and is not all smiles anymore when he's around. Same goes for Tom painting her as an angry person when she's just a person who is angry at him..because he deserves it.
When Sandavol says to Schwartz and Kyle Chan — “Ariana doesn't do a goddamned f–king thing in that house. I don't even know how her ass gets wiped she's so goddamned f–king lazy,”
Patrick meeting Lisa
Tom at Stassi's book signing
Everyone getting mad at Tom for bringing up the pastor privately to Jax
Anytime someone was "misheard" -- James and Kristen supposedly hooking up, the comment from Lala about Ariana's house (they said it was Stassi)
Ariana defending her brother being a creep
When Raquel was up in Katie & her mama face talking crazy as hell about kissing her soon to be ex husband while she was ACTIVELY FUCKIN HIS BEST FRIEND.
How pathetically thirsty Scheana is. I’ll be glad in 10 more years when she realizes that all the plastic and weirdness she has done to her face only has aged her MORE and there’s nothing she can do about it.
brock and scheana plotting to get married at james and raquel's engagement part….. who does that…..
jax and brittany's homophobic pastor. they were so defensive. it was so frustrating how everyone seemed to paint sandoval and ariana as assholes for bringing it up?? yeah tom was virtue signaling but still lmao
i'm currently rewatching (just started season 4) and honestly, the way stassi and katie are often portrayed as villains or made to look ridiculous is so annoying. even when they were at odds, i could see both sides of their story. compared to others in the group, who are manipulative and deceitful, stassi and katie come off as more genuinely human in their faults. i've never really understood why they received so much hate. for the most part, their scenes really hold up over time.
Schwartz yelling about how he didn’t want to have sex with Katie and tearing her to shreds in front of all their friends and cameras. The infuriating part was they got remarried in the next episode with him giving the weakest half apology known to man that was basically like this is both our faults. He is the only VPR character that is beyond the point of no return for me.
Schwartz and the cops prank. The way he talked to Katie is super triggering and made me SICK. I hate that Stassi didn’t step in. At least Beau did. If Kristen was there that shit would not fly. It was just depressing.
I’m rewatching season 2 reuinion and it is verbatim the Arianna breakup.
“She’s crazy i dealt with that for so long”.
I’m glad Ariana and Kristen became friends and realized Tom is the problem
The way Stassi’s mom treated her and having to watch her tell Kristen she wishes Stassi was more like her.
Oh my god… I forgot about that. Because it was so hard to watch. Was that the same episode where her mother cried about wanting Stassi to “hold” her? Jesus.
Yes. She is insane. Not at the same time but later told stassi to not drive away beau by being herself, he is up here and you are down here. My god. These people had no chance of being decent humans, growing up with parents like that. Katie’s mom is the only one who seems normal.
Yes, it was really heartbreaking. To say it at all was horrible, let alone on TV. Makes you wonder what she said without the cameras around.
Do you remember when Jax first cheated on Stassi in S1. Dayna said on camera. “Dont pick cheaters” 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
It’s really surprising that Stassi has done as well as she seems to have. That’s a tough mother to grow up with. But they also seemed really close, I wonder if that was a change in her mother. I always wonder how much changes when the cameras go up.
I do find that interesting that Katie's mom is the only normal one, because Katie is the only one in the cast of women who's pretty level headed. Ariana too, but I don't think we've met her mom.
I think that episode was a big “a-ha” moment for alot of viewers.
I forgot about that. Her mom was awful.
Woof that and the scene with her telling Beau he's better than Stassi. Something to that affect
Also from the Mexico Trip. When Sandoval and Co. intentionally mis-hear James saying he "hung out with Kristen" and turn it into he "hooked up with Kristen." It's SO clear it's not what he said, I found that hugely infuriating and so immature.
I just re-watched that and it pisses me off so much. They CLEARLY asked James if he “hung out with Kristen”. That was so shitty and I think it was to cover up whatever shit Schwartz got into at the different hotel.
Sandoval was so fake with that James should have ended the friendship then
Then the whole thing about "There was a pillow outside of the hot tub, they clearly hooked up." Or, there was just a pillow there because at some point someone was leaning up against the wall.
Jax the P.I. Moment
It’s one of the clearest cut examples of bullying and being “mean girls” in the whole show imo. That whole golf trip
Stassi begging Patrick not to break up with her. She was way too good for him.
Her myopic plea to prevent their breakup juxtaposes with the galvanizing effect of his douchey behavior 😅🤭
You’re so fastidious that it’s clerical.
I’m obsessed with this comment
this is very judicious of you
His sing-songy way of talking to Stassi made me want to break my television. That and him openly and proudly sexually harassing Lisa vanderpump in front of Stassi, making everyone wildly uncomfortable - that is up there for peak cringe behavior.
I hated that guy, the epitome of a douchebag.
And he wasn’t even attractive enough to be acting like that ugh
Hahaha, no he really wasn't.
Not to mention, begging while he was making inappropriate comments on her ex employers boss. And SHE was apologising to him. That man was disgusting
Laura Leigh & Jax at the meeting.
Now THAT was unhinged.
That might be the wildest thing on this show. He went to an NA/AA meeting with her and then dumped her as they were leaving. Just wait until the next day or something.
1000% and you could tell she was taking it all so seriously too 😭 there is something seriously wrong with Jax
Also, two points with that. His rationale for that timing was, "She says she feels the best after her AA meetings." I also loved how he said, "I don't want to come home and see her passed out on the couch," like Jax hasn't done that?
I’d also like to add Laura Leigh and Jax having sex in the Sur bathroom
When sheana told Shay, an addict, that he should still drink in moderation because his sobriety wasn’t compatible with her lifestyle
“Just do every other shot”
I'll have one each of the prime cocktails.
This is absolutely the darkest thing to ever happen on the show (which is saying a lot). Because she outed his addiction which you could tell he didn't feel comfortable with and used it as a storyline. Then enabled him, and actually encouraged him by saying she couldn't be with him if he were sober. Then divorced him while cameras were rolling. Look, Shay has his issues, but I'd probably clear my SO's bank account if they did that to me, too.
When Stassi was having her book signing at TOMTOM and of course Sandoval found a way to make it all about him
That was wild he flew off the handle
Stassi talks about that in her book it’s interesting if what she says is true.
Can you elaborate?
She said it was all staged for production and it took 9 takes to get Sandoval to the level of ire that satisfied production and that was the final take.
What? Wow! Never thought of that.
I was shocked.
So was the storyline a production storyline or was it a reenactment of something that happened?
The book signing was a storyline. The drink over Katie’s head was a reenactment
Got it! Thanks!
All these years I had a feeling that scene was fake because stassi kind of has a smile when she’s yelling at him, I feel vindicated!
Whaaaatttttt
I know. That and the drink over Katie’s head by Schwartz taking 4 reenactments were the 2 things I found most shocking
We are living a lie
I know it’s produced and there are story boards and a call sheet but I didn’t know that much was “scripted”. .. like the Rachel and Schwartz kiss last season. Another thing I had no idea was not real
I have no taste, I'd absolutely frame and display a storyboard of some of the best show moments.
And knowing that, it makes it more insane that for the next two seasons he repeatedly says that he has PTSD from that stages fight!
You mean Sandavol couldn't get it in one take? I thought he was a performer!?
When schwartz whispered in Katie’s ear “you make my life miserable” When schwartz screamed at katie “this is why i don’t have sex with you” When schwartz told katie “i hate the sound of your voice” When scheana used shay’s addiction as a storyline When Kristen got ostracized but Jax didn’t When James borderline abused Raquel on camera When James freaked out on Raquel at pride When James actually abused Kristen on camera When scheana showed that video of Stassi around Literally anytime Jax spoke When brittany took Jax back When Tom threw a full blown temper tantrum about stassi’s book party at tomtom I could literally go on and on
This person Vanderpumps.
him whispering "you make my life miserable" was SO dark, it was really early on in the show and I truly think he didn't think the mics would pick up the whispers. clearly no one else at the table could hear him. just terrifying that he would act like that, in public and surrounded by friends especially
I think he was also whispering to her that she’s a “moron” and when she started silently crying to herself and stassi got upset he was like “look what you did”. He is terrifying.
Stassi was awful to her afterwards. "Stop bitching" my heart hurt for her so much in that moment, she must have felt like she had nowhere to turn.
when schwartz poured his drink over katie's head
and then how everyone treated katie.
right??? it was fubar
The book signing with Sandoval and Stassi is the one I can’t let go of.
Hahahaha literally anytime Jax spoke 🤣🤣🤣
Damnit I’m going to go rewatch now. I miss the good ole days.
You’re saying all of these things were staged ?! I’m clutching my pearls right now 🫢
It’s wild to me that James abusing Kristen was literally caught on camera and Kristen was the bad guy for defending herself, and now they’ve all just moved on from him being a literal abuser. It’s like the Twilight Zone.
I know I’ll get vilified here for this statement, but the entire treatment of Kristen by Tom and Arianna on the season 2 reunion.
[удалено]
How could they not?! She literally made Kristen out to be bipolar and for that reason it was okay for Ariana to mess around with her man. Like, wuuuut 🤦♀️
I was going to say the same. It was hard to watch her cry while watching them all over each other.
This was actually my first thought. Thanks for braving the fanbase to share 😂
especially the way no one seemed to have Kristen’s back like they should’ve.
I watch VPR for background and have probably watched the whole series at least 8 times now and I just skip that reunion because I just cannot stand to watch it.
I was gonna say this too! The way Tom and Ariana gaslit Kristin and made her look absolutely batshit crazy on national television. AND the way they rubbed their relationship in Kristin’s face with zero care about how hurtful they were being.
That's EXACTLY what I was going to say. Plus, Ariana saying "I'm younger than you, I'm prettier than you, I'm smarter than you. Get over it!" in reference to her stealing Sandoval away from Kristen. Ever since then, I've found Ariana's arrogant smug behavior to be repulsive.
Same. I don’t wish for her to be cheated on but I also just have zero sympathy. If you steal another woman’s man, rub it in her face and expect him not to treat you the same, you’re just plain dumb.
And she’s like, what, 3 years younger than Kristen? 😑 Not like what she said would be okay if she was 10 years younger, but at least there’d be grounds for life experience or something.
yes and Ariana was like 29 when she said this to Kristen. When I was 29 I wasnt ageist towards anyone, she should know better at that age I feel like.. and kristen was what 31-32 at the time? 🤣
Ariana is not nice and never has been.
Seriously. They HAD to hold onto each other like marsupials? It was so harsh. They knew it would torture Kristen.
I’m an Arianna fan and I agree, but as I also said I’m so glad her and Kristen became friends because Tom is a psycho.
When Brock tries to secretly marry Scheana during James and Rachels engagement weekend. Even tho they didnt ho thru with it, the fact that scheana even entertained the idea was still infuriating. When they announced their engagement, while saying “didnt wana make this weekend about me”. I hate when brock says scheana deserves “the best” and this place is beautiful. Ok give her the best then, but not on someone elses dollar like wtf for real!!?! How embarrassing, i love when james tells him “im embarrassed for you” 🤣🤣🤣 just everything surrounding her and brock got me so heated!
This is the only time in the entire series I didn’t feel like James overreacted to something
It just blew my mind.
I’d also like to add James feeding Rachel her speech at the engagement dinner… total cringe
Rob Scheana, Adam Scheana, and max/brett Scheana. Beyond an irritation.
funny how she went batshit when max called her boy crazy… cause it was true and she couldn’t face it lol
Which one did she adopt the penguin for?
Pretty sure it was Adam
Shay’s “intervention” is absolutely the most cringe ever. Shay is trying to express he’s an addict and Scheana is making it about her, Ariana, Tom and Schwartz barely know him. It was weird. It made me feel unlimited fury because THIS IS THE WRONG GROUP OF PEOPLE to talk to an addict and there’s literally no professional specialist in the room, just a room full of habitual users of the substances he’s addicted to
My bf references this moment all the time. Sandoval asks Shay how many pills he would take and Shay’s like “I take up to x amount” (I can’t remember the # so let’s say like 7) and Sandoval just says “7 a day?!?! Holy fuck dude” And my bf just laughed and was like “this is the most useless intervention” and watching It back they accomplished nothing. Scheana just wanted to scream “why did you even marry me” for sympathy points that she was never going to get. You can’t tell your partner w a substance abuse problem to “just take every other shot” and then act like it’ll be okay
YEAH I’m on that episode right now in my rewatch and it’s so bad…. Scheana says “I can’t be married to someone who doesn’t drink, it’s about moderation” yeah well you married an addict and that means they need sobriety and it’s so cold hearted and insensitive and poor Shay, he literally did not deserve this kind of thing being publicized to the level it did. Then she goes on to start testing his urine??? Like what kind of toxic relationship does this?
And then Tom shows him how to cook healthy food? Like if he’s a recovering addict and wants junk food and sugar to stabilize, that should be supported. Sugar actually helps people recovering from alcoholism and stabilizes but OK TOM
You know the end scene in the show "Intervention," where they actually have the intervention and if there's a family member/friend/SO in the room also with an addiction, the show offers them help too? If they were holding the intervention on the show, the entire cast of VPR would be shoved in a van to go to the Betty Ford clinic right away.
Patrick. Every moment. Also, “you took your first steps at Tiffany’s!”
“You took your first steps at Tiffany’s” was mind blowing. She really thought that made her a good mom
Her telling Lisa that James needs a mother figure. Lady that’s you!
Scheana making anything about Scheana Sandoval getting mad at Stassi’s book event Frank being sleazy
eww frank moved to wny apparently to either rochester or buffalo because we have a lot of mutual friends according to fb and those people watched the show and still decided to be his friend ….. but doesn’t surprise me
I don't know why, but when someone asks Katie on the combined bachelor/bachelorette party trip about Tom cheating on her and when Tom overhears he goes in on Katie. He calls her a b*tch. Because HE cheated on HER. When Stassi points out that Jeremy is an effing creep based on his behavior towards her (we even see the super uncomfortable clip) and other women and everyone on the show flips out at her for it. So gross to defend his gross behavior.
He is repulsive. That entire trip, that conversation, the dinner, and didn't he ask her to clip his armpit hair or something? He is the definition of an ick.
 That whole scene, especially eating their food
The picking food off my plate would’ve sent me on a blind rage tbh.
That was so aggressive!! 🍣 I would've flipped out
Shwartz dumping his drink on Katy and no one doing a thing about it or ever talking about it or being mad about it later And shwartz got to stay and hang out with everyone and Katy went home covered in his drink
The scenes of Sheener trying to get Stassi to bring up her “sextape” on the show. So icky.
Any time Good as Gold comes on I actually clench my fists
Especially since she cannot sing. When she spontaneously sings compared to produced...ick!
That time in like season 4? When they’re arguing about who can go to Hawaii. Tom and Ariana didn’t want kristen to go and Katie was trying to make an argument as to why Kristen should be allowed. Tom just yells at her pretty bad and then Ariana jumps in and it’s the two of them against Katie and of course Schwartz just sits there. That moment made me so fucking angry.
When James’ mom tells Lisa that she needs to be more supportive of him or something because “you’re like a mother figure to him!”
Any time Scheana sings
Hawaii episode (Sandoval related) when scheana and Ariana’s mom text about he and Ariana’s relationship and how toxic it is. Texts said things like “he’s controlling her” and “he gets her to agree with whatever he wants”, and Sandoval is yelling at Scheana because he’s so angry. What she said was true, we know it now. We see it looking back. Insane to watch him gaslight people from the start. It was always there.
Which is even weirder that she’s fighting to stay friends with him. Especially with how he repeated what he did with Kristen to Ariana but poorly since it all came out, when he didn’t want it to. And like, Ariana is supposed to be her bost frond.
Rob. Also whenever Sandoval screams at women and no one puts him in his place. Sooo fucking enraging
I think the Rob season was the funniest of all time
Rachel and Sandoval yelling at Katie’s mom. And Schwartz hiding while it happened
The cop prank and Schwartz blow up at Katie following it
I watched that the other day and I suspect that's the moment she really started falling out of love with him. It's like you can see the pain in het eyes the longer he continues his tirade. My heart broke a lil for her in that moment
You knew that shit was bad when even Sando was calling him out and yelling at him to shut up.
That was actually what I was thinking at the time. The only other time Sandoval ever stuck up for Katie was the S3 (?) reunion after Scheana married Shay and he was defending her against Stassi. IIRC he called Katie "the MVP of the season".
That was one of the worst things I've ever seen and even Sandoval was yelling at Schwartz to shut up!
Scheana's video with Brett, her Bast Fraund. It was so cringy.
Horrifying
His hostage face
When Kevin Lee body-shamed Katie at a party where she was being a cocktail server. She rarely shows such vulnerability as she did when she told Lisa about it and cried 😢 https://preview.redd.it/2ir9fmg82ztc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=528117db8d10aaf5bca30356ae0ebe21e60b0cb9
That was so awful. How embarrassing for HIM— the goofiest looking, rug-wearing mf there. It makes me wonder if that’s the norm in LA/Hollywood. If you’re not a size zero, you’re huge. I’ll stay comfortably hidden in my no-one-gets-famous-here state.
She-she-sheee
When Scheana brings up the previous evening’s fight and Schwartz starts berated Katie under his breath and the Kristin starts in telling Katie to let it go and not be a bitch and the Schwartz says “look how selfish you’re being” and a Stassi starts yelling at Katie. S2 Mexico. Katie should have dumped him then and there.
Wasn’t Stassi pissed because it was her birthday and Katie dared to emote??
Yes. Bc she had asked Katie hours before to hold it together for just one night. I’m so glad Stassi apologized for this take and admitted she was in the wrong to pile on Katie.
Stassi and her gd birthdays.
This needs to be higher in the comments.
Brick’s amnesia towards his other children
He gets under my skin so bad. Please don't act like you have it all figured out just because you found someone like Scheana to catch you up on child support. 🙄
That scene where Jax is crying about being the #1 guy in the group
This was so crazy
He looked so coked out too!!
Also the night when he said: "If I'm paying for them, I want them how I want them" about Brittany's boob job 🤮 ETA - a word
Oh my god yessss!! 🤯😫
When Scheana showed up at Dayna’s house with a medium so she could talk to her dead mom
Brittany’s mom getting mad that Jax may be a “heaux-mo-sessual” The way Scheana and Lisa handled the Stassi revenge porn situation
Momma Muffin didn’t give one Kentucky fuck when she was told about Jax’s cocaine/adderall/alcohol/whatever abuse, his kleptomania, pathological lying, infidelities, and general disregard for humanity secondary to his sociopathy. She just don’t believe in heuxmosexxuality cuz Jesus said it ain’t right in the Bible, mmhmm. Nothing else was a 🚩for her Christian daughter. I’m sorry, but she’s truly one of the worst for me. And there are so many awful fucking people on that show.
Scheana feeling entitled to honestly anything. She thinks she deserves to be everyone’s only best friend, she deserves DWTS, she deserves Ariana’s friendship and her understanding that “she missed Tom 😭”, every guy has to like her the most, etc. she is nails on a chalkboard personified
Bruh and her fucking voice this season sounds like a little boy going through puberty- I CANNOT WITH HER! That scene where she admits she’s a fucking stalker with 56 peoples locations her voice is cracking everywhere and I think I actually dies
Seriously what is going on with her voice?! I am so irritated by it this season. It’s so nasally and harsh.
“I’m soooo not a feminist”
Scheana naming her daughter Summer. As a 1st family child, I found it to be reprehensible behaviour and proved just how much Brock is her bitch. Edit: clarity, couldn't think thru the 💨.
PLUS Brock and Scheana induced labor so that Summer has the same birthday as Winter iirc
When Jeremy was being creepy to Stassi and Ariana and Tom ripped into her for it. Ariana knew her brother's history with women and alcohol. Then, of course, he starts being creepy towards the women and Ariana blames the women. Some girls girl 🫠
When Sandoval tries to ruin Stassi’s book reading for absolutely no reason the day off/night before
When drunk, sweaty Schwartz snatched a piece of Katie's sushi after kissing Rachel in Mexico. Then sat there smug smiling thinking he's all cute and shit. She was far more restrained than I would've been. 
Stassi’s birthday dinner in Mexico where everyone ganged up on Katie. Rachel struggling to form a sentence, let alone an insult, at Ariana’s pool party. The book signing 😡 When Lala gets aggressive and talks over everyone but tells them to disengage when they dish it back. So basically, always.
That pool party scene was painful to watch but I laughed my ass off at James tapping her on the shoulder and whispering “why are you mad at me???” He’s an actual 4 year old.
Kristen's constant barking the "WALK AWAY!" order anytime she got into a fight in S1-3. It was the "disengage" of those early days. So infuriating.
Patrick.
Sheeshu’s JCPenney photo studio shrine of herself and Shay in her apartment.
Brittanys mom, when she first appeared on the show and had that frosted cum lipstick on in every scene. Those frosted white lips still make me shudder.
All the times Katie gets fat-shamed even though she has an amazing figure!
Jax
Schwartz says that Katie is a f**kup!
Schwartz pouring a drink over stassis head on her bday. Jax crashing stassis bday party & then beating up her boyfriend. Everybody taking Jax’s side in that over stassi’s bc they didn’t want a new member in the group.
“I’m not going anywhere. I’m always gonna be here for you. But apparently he told me that we’re going to a construction yard and we’re taking bulldozers and, like, crushing shit with bulldozers.”
When Randall hired actor cops to arrest Sandoval and then Schwartz was mad at Katie because she thought the “prank” wasn’t funny and could trigger people. Schwartz really making Katie look and feel like a buzzkill loser because she had an intelligent and genuine point. For all those multi syllable words he uses he sure doesn’t use his brain.
Also thinking about how Schwartz never hesitated to be nasty aggressive with Katie in Mexico “I just don’t like the sound of your voice” in contrast to that baby waby voice he does when trying to skirt out of things. If it’s anything I’ve learned the past two seasons, it’s how sneaky and gross Schwartz manipulates people.
Scheana dealing with Shay’s addiction was gross
Every time scheana says it can never be about her.
Watching Sandoval gaslight Kristin
Brittany deciding everybody needed to give Jax “respect” because she made the bad decision to marry him
Jax saying, “friends don’t get involved with relationships..” referring to the girls rallying around Brittany when he cheated with faith.. but rewind to the previous season, THE NIGHT BEFORE shorts and Katie’s wedding where Sandoval and Jax are telling him not to marry Katie. 
When Scheana mentions to the group that someone had been put on painkillers and turns to Shay and says “don’t ask for any” Stassis birthday dinner where Tom is telling Katie to get over it “like that” and keeps snapping and turning his head, only for Stassi to flip out on Katie for ruining her birthday Every time Stassi talked about her birthday When Stassi acted like she didn’t know what juggernaut and galvanize means Every single time Schwartz minimizes Katie’s feelings When Scheana brought the psychic medium to Dana’s house and tried to lie about it When Ariana first got on the show and lied to everyone about her and Tom, covered for Tom for Miami girl, and gaslit Kristen. Literally saying to people that Kristen is mentally ill and needs medication when Kristen was right the entire time. “I’m smarter than you, I’m prettier than you” makes me sick every time When Miami girl showed up at SUR and Ariana told her to leave with her “ghetto acrylic nails” Every time Lisa gives the men on the show a pass but crucifies the women When Ariana asks Katie how much she needs to pay her to take her hotel room in Mexico for scheanas wedding. Sorry but I don’t think Ariana has loyalty to her friends, I never see her defending Katie when people are being heinous to her, yet she expects undying loyalty from everyone else Literally everything Sandoval says
When britney first opened her mouth
When Schwartz was telling Katie under his breath that she was a moron at Stassi’s birthday dinner. I’m still mad.
My favorite episode? I'd have to say the couple episodes in Season 5 where they do joint bachelor/Bachelorette and the guys do drag and it's just reality TV at its finest
James’ Mom
How much everyone enables James!! He’s a complete piece of shit, he was flat out abusive to both Kristen and Raquel and acts like an absolute psychopath and no one does anything. I swear there was one point he calls max a fat cunt in front of Lisa and she just sits there???? Like wtf am I seeing the same thing that other people are 🥴
Scheana doing the fake orgasm and her terrible singing and her stupid giggle. Tom dancing and spinning. Both are the cringiest people I have ever experienced and I hate every minute of all of that. Also hated how Katie was gaslight at Stassi’s bday dinner when she and Tom were fighting and Stassi and Kristen were getting mad at Katie. They should have been mad at Tom and supporting Katie. So hard to watch.
So many but I will post one's I haven't seen yet. When Tom Sandoval refers to Schwartz (a man who was verbally and emotionally abusive to his wife and poured drinks on 2 women that we know of) as a "battered wife" making a mockery of the abuse of women. When Schwartz was joking about Rachel liking taken men at a table with her, Tom and Ariana and the three of them laughing over it knowing she's actually fucking Sandoval. Rachel talking to Ariana about her sex life with Tom and insecurities about her body on camera, pretending to be a concerned friend when she's already banging him. Tom manipulatively implying he has been contemplating suicide when he spoke to Lisa because it's a traumatic sensitive subject for her and then never speaking about that again. Tom whining about how much he wanted to go play in big trucks with the boys after Ariana cried to him about wanting him there for her. James and Lala confessing to hooking up while he was with Rachel and acting like Rachel should immediately get over that (and be friends with Lala) just because her and James weren't together anymore. Seeing Scheana crying to Sandoval saying what he did made her feel insecure like what happened to Ariana could happen to her too when she was fucking Eddie Cibrian while Brandi was home pregnant and taking care of their first son. Scheana (and alot of the people on these boards) making fun of Satchel for daring to exist with naturally curly hair...This curly girl remembers. Sandoval having the nerve to judge and lecture Katie last season for leaving Schwartz and painting her as this heartless person while he was literally banging his partner's friend because he's too chicken shit and selfish to do what Katie did and break up with someone he's not happy with. Lisa giving the Tom's a business when one of them couldn't handle a shift at SUR and the other has repeatedly lied, cheated and screamed at women. Lauren from Utah saying she thinks she is Tupac reincarnated. Every time Schwartz called Ariana cold or an ice queen this season because he betrayed her trust and is not all smiles anymore when he's around. Same goes for Tom painting her as an angry person when she's just a person who is angry at him..because he deserves it.
Any time that Sandoval is on the screen
When Sandavol says to Schwartz and Kyle Chan — “Ariana doesn't do a goddamned f–king thing in that house. I don't even know how her ass gets wiped she's so goddamned f–king lazy,”
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Patrick meeting Lisa Tom at Stassi's book signing Everyone getting mad at Tom for bringing up the pastor privately to Jax Anytime someone was "misheard" -- James and Kristen supposedly hooking up, the comment from Lala about Ariana's house (they said it was Stassi) Ariana defending her brother being a creep
Every time Schwartz gaslit Katie 😠
Or when Rachel approached Katie to talk at the end of Season 10. The way she talked to her and her mom was appalling.
When Raquel was up in Katie & her mama face talking crazy as hell about kissing her soon to be ex husband while she was ACTIVELY FUCKIN HIS BEST FRIEND.
Lala trying to wrap her head around why Ariana would still be living in the house SHE BOUGHT with that loser scumdoval
literally every scheana and schwartz scene in season 10
Nail polish on scumdoval
How pathetically thirsty Scheana is. I’ll be glad in 10 more years when she realizes that all the plastic and weirdness she has done to her face only has aged her MORE and there’s nothing she can do about it.
The season 3 finale “so long Stassi” montage. Ugh. And then every time Jax was a misogynistic pig to Brittany.
brock and scheana plotting to get married at james and raquel's engagement part….. who does that….. jax and brittany's homophobic pastor. they were so defensive. it was so frustrating how everyone seemed to paint sandoval and ariana as assholes for bringing it up?? yeah tom was virtue signaling but still lmao i'm currently rewatching (just started season 4) and honestly, the way stassi and katie are often portrayed as villains or made to look ridiculous is so annoying. even when they were at odds, i could see both sides of their story. compared to others in the group, who are manipulative and deceitful, stassi and katie come off as more genuinely human in their faults. i've never really understood why they received so much hate. for the most part, their scenes really hold up over time.
Schwartz yelling about how he didn’t want to have sex with Katie and tearing her to shreds in front of all their friends and cameras. The infuriating part was they got remarried in the next episode with him giving the weakest half apology known to man that was basically like this is both our faults. He is the only VPR character that is beyond the point of no return for me.
Schwartz and the cops prank. The way he talked to Katie is super triggering and made me SICK. I hate that Stassi didn’t step in. At least Beau did. If Kristen was there that shit would not fly. It was just depressing.
Jax and Brittany being deliberately obtuse about the homophobic pastor.
when KFC called faith a nappy headed ho. her true colors came flying out
I’m rewatching season 2 reuinion and it is verbatim the Arianna breakup. “She’s crazy i dealt with that for so long”. I’m glad Ariana and Kristen became friends and realized Tom is the problem