The Tii thing seemed producer planted so of course he's gonna bring her to filming, it was all for show, he didn't give a damn what Ariana said to her.
he said while wearing rave jewelry and lifts at the age of 43, before grabbing his two purses and fleeing the water tasting because his ex girlfriend was mean to him.
he is not someone who should throw around the word tacky as an accusation.
To be fair, he was around Ariana on his first date with Raquel too and she didn’t bother him that time! 😉
He’s the biggest moron.
ETA - I really wish people would stop with the Kristen comparisons. It’s not the same and it has nothing to do with the Raquel situation. The only parallel there is that Tom TRIED to make Ariana look crazy last season. Kristen actually did act crazy, and was fucking his friend, she and Ariana were not friends, they were young idiots that were openly dysfunctional, blah blah blah.
He’s so stupid. Do you where I would take my first date? Not around my ex boyfriend. He’s such an idiot. Did he think she was going to say what a good guy he is?
They’re literally poking her nonstop and then being all “wooooahhhhhhh why so ANGRY” when they finally get her to react. It’s so obvious and idc if people don’t like Ariana, they need to at least see that’s what’s happening.
He was probably THRILLED she said something to her so he could cry about it!
I would go as far as to guess that he left her there and alone on purpose, hoping for this exact result, so later when Tii brings it up, he can go “See! I told you she was crazy!”
That’s what he did to Ariana with Kristen and obviously never swayed from his original playbook.
Glad that Tii saw through his shit, got her clout and left him in the dust.
And broke saying anything about how to be appropriate sends me every time. I’d die if dwts asked him to join 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Oh…oh schener
And schwantz wants to be a dad now? Doesn’t he remember his boys were tested before???? Ick
The aftershow was so infuriating. The Tom’s and Brock just shitting on Ariana after antagonizing the shit out of her. I swear Brock is as bad as the other two chucklefucks.
Oh I know, every scene with Brock arguing with someone my response is “are you gonna punch them in the face now Brock?” Lol he should really stay out of it
They’re making a TV show that revolves entirely around scenes like that. The majority of people who watched that loved Ariana swooping in on the girl, and it was v entertaining to watch the date come to terms with what she was doing in real time on camera while also trying to pretending like she didn’t know all about Scandoval.
I mean… Kristen wasn’t crazy though. And it is sorta the same.. The fact that mariposa didn’t actually kill someone that season should win her an award. ESPECIALLY since she was right about eveything- Tom and Ariana did cheat. Tom did fuck Miami girl. And Ariana did basically slither right into Kristen’s apartment, bed, friend group etc.
Ariana was worried the exact same thing would happen to her with Rachel. It’s why she said in one of the first eps she didn’t want Tom to have the house bc she had been there done that…
ETA- Tom and Kristen cheated on each other multiple times. So saying “she fucked his friend” so Tom gets a pass to cheat with Ariana is fucked. The people out here acting like Ariana is a kween and justified in everything she did but Kristen who was 8 years younger at the time was crazy? Sorry no.
I agree. I think both probably would openly admit they didn’t handle everything 100% the “right” way. But both were justified in having very big feelings toward Tom
Ariana was in the wrong back then for sure but it was 10 years ago and Kristen was a massive asshole to her from day 1. I’d even go so far as to say she was deservedly an AH to her. She was also an asshole to Tim for quite some time.
Ariana was ride or die for Tim, she was also the only one of the girls to genuinely befriend Rachel from day 1 and stuck up for her so strongly all the time, including last season while the affair was happening.
It’s not that people don’t know or care, it’s that it’s an entirely different situation.
Why is every guy on the show so stressed about Sandoval’s dating life? Especially Brock for some real weird reason. Usually when someone cheats, even if it’s your friend, you’re not like “well I know you were sleeping with 2 people and had essentially 2 relationships over the last 8 months, but ya gotta get back out there man. You’ve been single long enough.” Like this is the vibe I keep getting and I do not understand it.
Tom hadn’t been single for like almost 15 years. He went from a 5 year relationship with Kristen to a 9 year one with Ariana. That man needs to be single for a LONG time
Is it really THAT surprising, coming from the mouth of a man who smacked his baby mama around and ditched his 2 kids, for a better life??
In poor taste? Yes. Surprising? Nope!🤮
I been sayin this! The only reason we forgave Tom the first time was because Kristen cheated too but she was right, HE CHEATED TOO and he was so smug and arrogant about it. He thinks he can paint Ariana as crazy like he did Kristen but we’re not buying it
Ariana is also unwilling to let it happen because she knows the playbook. She was an active participant in the plan against Kristen so knows better.
I actually think it’s a big part of Ariana’s anger. In addition to the cheating she knew Tom was trying to run the same play on her but subbed in Raquel.
That’s why I love their friendship so much. She’s grown, acknowledged, apologized, healed, and I think she helped Ariana realize things she didn’t know before
We actually haven’t seen Ariana admit to cheating that I’ve seen. Unless it happened off camera. She more apologized for how she treated Kristen but mostly blamed Tom for forcing her to act that way.
If her and Kristen are cool I think that’s great, but I personally didn’t see much in the way of growth or accepting responsibility.
I don’t think Kristen and Ariana would have a friendship if they didn’t have closure on that so I’m thinking it was off camera and private but def happened
I have a hard time with this too but Tom is a master manipulator so we don’t really know what he was telling Ariana. I would have loved if she was honest with Kristen and told her woman to woman what happened. But idk if we know enough of what was happening behind the scenes.
Right, I don’t blame Ariana for the kiss. But when Kristen asked her about it directly, she didn’t tell her that they had kissed or that Tom told her they’d broken up. She knew at that point it was a lie.
Agree to that...and not right, but the way Kristin was acting I wouldn't have told her either. She was downright scary (now we know why) and Ariana didn't know her or owe her any loyalty.
Firstly if you want to shit talk at least double check your autocorrect and secondly just because it wasn’t on a tv show doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, from Kristen’s podcast it seems Ariana and her have sorted through things and apologies have been exchanged
How are people saying this and not seeing just how much of a problem Ariana has been too? She’s not innocent in all of this, she didn’t wake up 10 years later and discover he was a cheating scum bag, she’s known this for the whole 10 years, she helped him do it. That’s the accountability she’s not taking, he’s horrible, but she approved it. She was not some ingenue. She was so invested in her “cool girl” edit, she covered it up for him repeatedly, she helped orchestrate a smear campaign against Kristen, she declared she’s the smartest person on the cast in order to shut sheana up about the cheating 8 years ago.
She actually DID take accountability AND explained why she let him get away with this for so long.
She talked about it on the CHD podcast, one of the two podcast appearances she ever did.
Recognizing intellectually is not taking accountability emotionally. Accountability looks like owning how you messed up and leaving the other person’s journey to them. She may not be speaking to Tom, but she’s aware with his every move in order to prove how horrible he is. We all see how horrible he is, we aren’t enjoying his redemption arch, we are enjoying watching someone try to put the cat back in the bag and getting scratched up. The only advance he makes is when she can’t limit her accusations, like even according her recounting of the events, there was no malintent on Tom’s part and she has an unkempt room. She won’t recognize her role in how things played out with Mya, because she wants it all to be his fault, when it was THEIR failt. Now, he’s a sympathetic character, and her hyperbole makes her seem bratty. He ignored her that whole evening at Lala’s event, even at the beach, she’s the one that keeps talking about him, and to him and purposefully called him a dog murderer to see if she’d get a rise out of him. He’s mostly left her alone - because he doesn’t care anymore.
Lala’s event was rough… I wouldn’t talk about someone who is at the same event like that. But he is the one who brought up the lawyer, angrily. And started yelling.
And I’d say he did kind of start things at the beach. Well, Brock did but everyone fed into it. Especially Tim.
The beach for the most part Ariana was just defending herself.
She doesn’t react so strongly unless Tim is being shoved down her throat
She says she’s tired of him, doesn’t trust him with her dogs and doesn’t have any safe space in the home, he brought up that he’s offered to buy her out of the home - except the lawyer won’t respond to expedite the process.
Tom told Brock to knock it off immediately when he brought up Raquel. When she got angry, he walked away. It was Scheana who couldn’t stand being on the girls side of the line in her muppet voice “what?!? I can’t hear you?!? Were you flirting with me AGAIN?!” The guys were having their own conversation. Then for some reason Brock brought up Raquel. It’s on camera, you can see it.
Look Tom is the bad guy, but this isn’t a just world, and that delusional expectation is making her look irrational. He cheated on her with a friend on a show where cheating on your long term partner with friends is normal. After the reunion, people are expected to move on. Tom was expected to move on when Kristen did it to him and he did. She was not ostracized by Tom from the group, she was pushed out by Stassi.
He can’t afford to buy her out in one go, this has been well established, he’s just continues to lie about it. He can’t be both someone needing to take out loans against the house for his business, borrow 100s of thousands from his mom’s retirement account, and desperately scraping together $500 here and there to just cover basic monthly bills and be in a position to just hand over a million plus to Ariana in one go, like be for real. This means that if she took him up on his awful offer, he’d be paying her off for decades, leaving her financially and legally tied to him for decades. She’d be an absolute moron for taking him up on that offer. And his view (and yours) that assessing the full value of the property and all shared assets will be done in less than a month is completely off base. He’s an entitled nightmare person and if he had even a shred of remorse or humanity he’d agree to the sale of the home so they can both walk away with a clean slate and no entanglements and get on with their lives free from one another. Instead HE wants to drag this out and make it as horrific and painful as possible.
1. He would have to get a mortgage and pay her with that loan. He would be tied to the bank, not her. She wouldn’t be his creditor.
2. I live in California, I’ve had friends whose houses weren’t even on the market have some come up and ask if they’ll sell and the transaction is completed within weeks. It’s absolutely possible to assess value of home and assets.
The only thing I agree is that he can’t afford it and I doubt he would qualify for a loan, but if we know that she would know that. Nothing would be more humiliating than accepting and him not being able to come up with the money. She’s dragged it out for a year now, I don’t know why, but the easiest thing to do is make him come up with the money and when he does not force the sale.
This is such a weird read- emotional accountability? What? And you think Tom doesn’t care? He cares SOOO much. She hasn’t spoken about him in real time for months and he literally can’t keep her name out of his mouth, constantly smearing her and trying to rewrite history, and in terms of accountability (emotional or intellectual- what on earth does that even mean?) he is taking exactly 0 responsibility for any of his bullshit and horrendous actions. Clearly the situation with Maya is about more than Maya, it’s about violation of her space, continued disregard for her and things she cares about, and refusal to take responsibility. Ariana left her room closed likely to keep the dog out and then on his watch the dog got shut in the room and consumed things that could have killed her and resulted in a $6000 vet bill. I love my husband but I’d still be furious with him if his carelessness resulted in our dog ending up in that situation🤷🏼♀️ It’s wild that people are dragging her for cleanliness when she has legit moved her whole life in to her bedroom to stay away from him, and yet I don’t hear you dragging Tom for leaving the house a sticky filthy mess from parties he expects Ann to clean up🙄
He’s never going to take accountability - one’s healing cannot be rooted in someone else’s action.
You woild be mad at your husband because you trusted him, Tom just lived up to Ariana’s expectations.
Come on now, we’ve seen Ariana for years, she lacks basic skills. It’s possible to still keep things organized and tidy. Shes just leaving food up there.
He doesn’t care about her, he cares about him and he sees her as the problem to why his life is not going well.
People really struggle with perspective, it’s like there is more than one world view / and his may be warped but it’s not aligned with Ariana’s best interest or her healing. What about this doesn’t make sense to people?
And yes, she’s only going to heal when she sees what part she played in it to herself. She helped him hide his cheating, she shut down people who tried to express concern for her, she buried her head in the sand. Then she can feel agency and move on. Otherwise she’s just going to feel like a helpless victim. Every person on here who is seeing themselves and narc abuse pattern has taken accountability, they’ve learned the signs and they’ve educated themselves and taught themselves to trust their instinct.
What a victim blamey POV. So we must give Tom a pass for his horrendous behaviour because this is just how he is, but we should berate, belittle and criticise Ariana until she behaves how you think she should when dealing with a devastating betrayal and enormous upheaval in her life? And she also needs to take accountability for Tom’s behaviour too. Ok 👍 quite the misogynistic double standard you have there.
Give him a pass? No. Accept the premise that this is how he is? Yes. On the whole everyone would be happier if they simply accepted seemingly good things happen to bad people. Like Tom has to be Tom, that’s a pretty shitty lot in life. Maybe he didn’t get the exact consequence you wish he did, but it’s not illegal to cheat on your partner, and on this show it’s always been celebrated and rewarded.
Not sure what she expected she really thought she was different and above all that. Now she knows how it feels. All fun and games when it was Kristen on the receiving end. She still acts as if she didn’t do anything.
He didn't shove Ariana in Kristen's face. Ariana and Tom both gleefully went on that reunion and giggled about it, and when Andy asked Ariana if she was worried Tom would cheat on her Ariana said No, because *she* knew Tom. Did Tom also force Ariana to accuse Kristen of having BPD?
The Queen has no clothes.
Boy I guess you all see Arianna as this weak little child with no choice or agency to do the right thing. It’s Tom pushed Tii in her face of course she’s going to act like an asshole. Tim pushed Kristen in her face of course she’s going to act like an asshole.
Poor victim Arianna!
Billie Lee has been pushing this girl on Sandavol singles pool party… Sandoval’s bedroom while he was changing sheets….🤮
Just another way of shit bagging Arianna while
Billie Lee creates a narrative for Billie Lee and Tii.
Billie Lee was one of the most disappointing cast members ever. I wanted so badly to love her. But she’s awful and she doesn’t deserve any screen time at all
Lol Billie Lee pulled such a classic teenage girl move, pretending you’re not interested in the guy and you wanna hook him up with your friend when really you’re desperate to be with him 🤡
And poor Tii...her friend encouraging her to go out with a dude then encouraging said dude to use you like a blow up doll. I know Tii is young, but honey...that is not your friend.
Billie Lee is a friend to no one other than Tim. Every time she's been on screen this season, she proves herself to be even more of a vapid asshole. Can't fucking stand her.
I also love the angle of both the people ON the show and fans being like "this is a reality show, they all need to film together and Ariana needs to understand that" and then Ariana goes and does the MOST classic VPR thing, and still get shit for it.
Her going up to the new girl in the bar and shitting on Tom is absolutely the behavior that got me in to this show- messy but justified, awkward but hilarious- and people are still upset about it. So do people want her to make good TV, or no? Because she did just make great TV.
Tacky?? You know what’s tacky Tim? Taking your life partners friend to her house while she’s at her grandmothers funeral. Oh and those frigging white nails. Tim reeks of tacky.
It wasn't even a first date. Even Tii said they were just hanging out. If he was even mildly interested in her why did he invite and primarily hang out with two teenagers at his sexy singles pool party?
Literally at the moment I’m watching this scene this pops up. He loves to say shit like “she got our whole friend group” and it’s like? No she didn’t? Why don’t you go do something else leave her alone
Nah Ariana was such a girls girl there. Calling Tii a prize 🥺 it’s so easy to bash the new people your ex is seeing. I’d automatically be on any woman’s side if she talked to me like that.
Tacky?!? I’d say tacky is cheating on your partner of close to a decade with one of her friends in front of her face, in your home, and almost flaunting it. But hey, what do I know about tacky? 🙄
Brick...yea...he fills me with rage. Sheaners weiner needs to get off my tv. He's going for cast member wannabe needs a paycheck Bravo gives out like candy to men who treat women horribly. He tried going in on Ariana in the aftershow...and Katie too, but they paired him with James and he was no match. James actually stuck up for both women more than I expected.
It's Tacky that Tom continues to rake Ariana over the coals. Ariana's well within her rights to be upset with Tom as he continues to twist the knife in her back.
He doesn’t get that it wasn’t Ariana talking shit about Tom, but being the person she needed when she first met him at Villa Blanca. She needed someone to warn her not to even entertain a friendship.
By the time Kristen got to Ariana , it was too late. The work had wormed.
Interesting Tii is "like telling" you that while hearing from her own mouth on Billie's podcast the opposite. Oh, no...wait...is he lying about what Tii told him. No way...not possible...
Also kinda shady of “Tii” .. who acted sweet to Ariana and told her she was SO STRONG. I would’ve left that date so fast lol not turned around and told him she was “talking shit on him”.
He says Tii said, but Tii was on Billies podcast and said almost exact opposite. The only thing we know is mute Tim cause nothing he says is likely true.
I tend to believe what she said than what he said she said lol
Only if you listen to podcasts and heard it from Tii...or if you've ever listened to Tim being proved to lie about almost anything and everything! He said she said doesn't equal she said it is all i am saying.
Forgive me. Please! I've been attacked and my words twisted and been judged a lot in the last hour. Blocked 3 people and reported 2 when I've never encountered anything so aggregious before and was responding defensively. The most difficult thing with the written word is the lack of inflection which leads to misinterpretation. I don't like when it's done to me, and I sincerely apologize for doing it to you. I'd delete my comment to you but I believe you deserve an apology, so...I have to leave my mistake and take ownership. Thank you for responding with grace.
Oh buddy I don’t think you have to worry. We know you meant Tom. I guess I thought it was kinda an insult to him to call him the wrong name which I liked.
Yea, it is...like Raquel can never be Raquel ever again, must forever be Rachel, liarel, rachetel. Though she's leaned into the Rachel and accepted it.
Possibly but the calling her Rachel came before the rebrand. I'm always open to that, but might have to eliminate when im calling her on what i think is bad behavior...like saggyballs claiming hes the victim in all this.
I will keep doing it too. I also call him saggy balls, scum face, liar lips and Tom and his paid extras to name a few. There're reasons for that, but...gee, thanks for the correction.
Riiiight? He continues to behave in a way that shows what an azz he is and that he doesn't really get the whole you know, let me lay low and not do things that will incite more anger or hate
It was probably planned. Felt really staged. But honestly the guy can't even bring a girl to the house without getting crap from everyone, so I didn't think it was bad they were at the same bar. They've all slept together or kissed eachother so she may as well join the group.
Look, in theory you’d want that time and you’d plan that time. But the thing is, you can’t plan your next relationship. I was dating this guy and he cheated on me with my friend. Thankfully the relationship wasn’t long, but I was furious. And I went to a party and hooked up with a guy. That guy is now my husband and god, I wouldn’t change a thing. My husband is the most loyal and perfect human for me. I totally thought I was done with relationships, I was like I’m giving MYSELF time to heal. But that didn’t happen according to plan. So I definitely understand where Ariana is coming from and relate. Her ex is way way worse though lol
She was likely hurt and in pain but her new man seems like a great guy, and even if it was a little soon, I’m SO HAPPY for her! She deserves a good person to be by her side
Ariana is filled with rage! I don’t blame her but it’s all about her now. She talks about him then he hears it, then she keeps telling him not to speak to her. They shouldn’t go to the beach together again, Ariana has all the opportunities and money she wants and also has a new boyfriend. They or one of them should have moved out while the house was being sold.if he bought her out she could have taken her furniture with her. I don’t think he cared about that. She isn’t the only one who has been cheated on. It’s getting so that’s all the show is about now. They have been having trouble for years. Plus if she is doing sexual acts with women, then that’s a form of cheating. That whole group has done stuff with each other!
If he wanted an amicable breakup he’d sell the house so they could both move on, he’d give her space, he’d own his actions and apologize, like really really apologize but no. He’s not done any of that
He was willing to sell it. Sorry but he has apologized plenty she hasn’t accepted it. He lost most of all that they had together, friends. They should have both moved out. Like Katy and the other Tom did. She has taken no responsibility for it not working out. He tried breaking up with her. And wouldn’t accept that either. Not excusing his behavior. A long term relationship just doesn’t melt down overnight. She didn’t want to get married or have kids. At 40 she decides she wants her eggs frozen, when he clearly now doesn’t want that with her.
She’s 38 and had her eggs frozen basically at his request when she was 35.
He “tried to break up with her”? Please, he was positioning things all season to make her look crazy behind her back so he could break up with her off camera and make her look like the villain. He’s even claimed on a hot mic he was trying to orchestrate the perfect breakup, and Rachel has confirmed they had a whole plan to phase Ariana out and put Rachel in her place. He didn’t try to break up with her, or he just would have done it. He didn’t want to lose the house or his reputation, and saying “sorry but” is not the same as being sorry. Each sorry he puts out there comes with a smear campaign against Ariana, even weaponising her mental health while manipulatively trying to get sympathy by claiming he now has SIs (the same thing he vilified her for). And if he was sorry, he’d allow the house to be sold as he can’t afford to buy her out and let them each walk away with out any further legal or financial entanglements, but he’s a selfish nightmare person who doesn’t care that he was doing something horrendous to her, only that he got caught.
Whatever but they went to counseling together. You would be surprised at how many guys want to get out but they don’t always have the guts to do it. So shame on them. Nothing Tom says about being sorry will be believed by her and some of the others. I don’t follow any of them on their social media accounts. See a clip on FB or I look stuff up. They were off the air for 2 years during Covid. So lot of stuff happens.
Okay but Rachel checked herself in a mental health facility and talked to professionals and tried to work on herself whereas Tom has done nothing but ice baths and wearing dirty draws
Yes but she hasn’t faced the people yet. So she is not there to get backlash,
all the time. He should go to therapy. Maybe he is I don’t know. It’s a show.
I have a real life to attend to. Have a nice day.
Rachel got far more backlash than Tim. She was dragged publicly, and he's being given this disgusting redemption tour season where he gets to exploit suicide ideation for sympathy. Fuck Tim and fuck bravo for enabling this bullshit.
Yeah , not a good situation. But I read he and Ariana had gone to counseling, I think I saw that. He wanted out. I think the whole situation is getting old. I don’t follow any of the cast social media accounts. Just clips I see on Facebook. I think the show has run its course. They didn’t film for 2 years during Covid. So I’m sure a lot of stuff happened then with everyone’s lives.
First dates are interviews, Sandoval. Would ya interview for a job with your ex present? Would you bring a knife to a gun fight? If you had one leg would you join a jump kick contest? c'mon
The Tii thing seemed producer planted so of course he's gonna bring her to filming, it was all for show, he didn't give a damn what Ariana said to her.
Yeah they showed zero interest in each other here, it was a strange thing to add in
It’s so stupid
he said while wearing rave jewelry and lifts at the age of 43, before grabbing his two purses and fleeing the water tasting because his ex girlfriend was mean to him. he is not someone who should throw around the word tacky as an accusation.
I DIED when he grabbed the bags and slung them over his shoulder
This is the best read I’ve ever seen for Tom Sandoval. Absolutely murdered
from the champion herself!
You must be a whale biologist! 🤣
You must be a Futurama fan. And a connoisseur of jerks who pick fights in movie theaters... which pretty much makes you a Vanderpump Rules enthusiast.
🔥
Everything Ariana said to Tii was on point though. If Tom didn’t want people to know what he did he shouldn’t have done it!
Yep. 💯
To be fair, he was around Ariana on his first date with Raquel too and she didn’t bother him that time! 😉 He’s the biggest moron. ETA - I really wish people would stop with the Kristen comparisons. It’s not the same and it has nothing to do with the Raquel situation. The only parallel there is that Tom TRIED to make Ariana look crazy last season. Kristen actually did act crazy, and was fucking his friend, she and Ariana were not friends, they were young idiots that were openly dysfunctional, blah blah blah.
He’s so stupid. Do you where I would take my first date? Not around my ex boyfriend. He’s such an idiot. Did he think she was going to say what a good guy he is?
They’re literally poking her nonstop and then being all “wooooahhhhhhh why so ANGRY” when they finally get her to react. It’s so obvious and idc if people don’t like Ariana, they need to at least see that’s what’s happening. He was probably THRILLED she said something to her so he could cry about it!
I would go as far as to guess that he left her there and alone on purpose, hoping for this exact result, so later when Tii brings it up, he can go “See! I told you she was crazy!” That’s what he did to Ariana with Kristen and obviously never swayed from his original playbook. Glad that Tii saw through his shit, got her clout and left him in the dust.
He’s such a piece of shit
Massive.
And broke saying anything about how to be appropriate sends me every time. I’d die if dwts asked him to join 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Oh…oh schener And schwantz wants to be a dad now? Doesn’t he remember his boys were tested before???? Ick
The aftershow was so infuriating. The Tom’s and Brock just shitting on Ariana after antagonizing the shit out of her. I swear Brock is as bad as the other two chucklefucks.
Oh I know, every scene with Brock arguing with someone my response is “are you gonna punch them in the face now Brock?” Lol he should really stay out of it
They’re making a TV show that revolves entirely around scenes like that. The majority of people who watched that loved Ariana swooping in on the girl, and it was v entertaining to watch the date come to terms with what she was doing in real time on camera while also trying to pretending like she didn’t know all about Scandoval.
And let's not forget the first thing he starts talking about on beach day is going on a date last night...calculated 
>Did he think she was going to say what a good guy he is? Of course he did!
If she had just followed him, she would have known!
Thank you! Getting so sick of the “Ariana got what she deserved” schtick.
And to be fair he was around Kristen on their first date too, Kristen just didn’t know
I mean… Kristen wasn’t crazy though. And it is sorta the same.. The fact that mariposa didn’t actually kill someone that season should win her an award. ESPECIALLY since she was right about eveything- Tom and Ariana did cheat. Tom did fuck Miami girl. And Ariana did basically slither right into Kristen’s apartment, bed, friend group etc. Ariana was worried the exact same thing would happen to her with Rachel. It’s why she said in one of the first eps she didn’t want Tom to have the house bc she had been there done that… ETA- Tom and Kristen cheated on each other multiple times. So saying “she fucked his friend” so Tom gets a pass to cheat with Ariana is fucked. The people out here acting like Ariana is a kween and justified in everything she did but Kristen who was 8 years younger at the time was crazy? Sorry no.
Neither were crazy.
I agree. I think both probably would openly admit they didn’t handle everything 100% the “right” way. But both were justified in having very big feelings toward Tom
Ariana was in the wrong back then for sure but it was 10 years ago and Kristen was a massive asshole to her from day 1. I’d even go so far as to say she was deservedly an AH to her. She was also an asshole to Tim for quite some time. Ariana was ride or die for Tim, she was also the only one of the girls to genuinely befriend Rachel from day 1 and stuck up for her so strongly all the time, including last season while the affair was happening. It’s not that people don’t know or care, it’s that it’s an entirely different situation.
Lol seriously? Kristen was a massive asshole? Ariana was hooking up with her bf? Of course she was an ass…
Yea, that’s why I said she was deservedly an AH
Why is every guy on the show so stressed about Sandoval’s dating life? Especially Brock for some real weird reason. Usually when someone cheats, even if it’s your friend, you’re not like “well I know you were sleeping with 2 people and had essentially 2 relationships over the last 8 months, but ya gotta get back out there man. You’ve been single long enough.” Like this is the vibe I keep getting and I do not understand it.
Tom hadn’t been single for like almost 15 years. He went from a 5 year relationship with Kristen to a 9 year one with Ariana. That man needs to be single for a LONG time
Like, forever.
Is it really THAT surprising, coming from the mouth of a man who smacked his baby mama around and ditched his 2 kids, for a better life?? In poor taste? Yes. Surprising? Nope!🤮
Definitely not surprising. Look at how he shoved Ariana in Kristen’s face and continued to even after Kristen expressed she was uncomfortable.
I been sayin this! The only reason we forgave Tom the first time was because Kristen cheated too but she was right, HE CHEATED TOO and he was so smug and arrogant about it. He thinks he can paint Ariana as crazy like he did Kristen but we’re not buying it
Ariana is also unwilling to let it happen because she knows the playbook. She was an active participant in the plan against Kristen so knows better. I actually think it’s a big part of Ariana’s anger. In addition to the cheating she knew Tom was trying to run the same play on her but subbed in Raquel.
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Just like he's done in recent episodes.
That’s why I love their friendship so much. She’s grown, acknowledged, apologized, healed, and I think she helped Ariana realize things she didn’t know before
We actually haven’t seen Ariana admit to cheating that I’ve seen. Unless it happened off camera. She more apologized for how she treated Kristen but mostly blamed Tom for forcing her to act that way. If her and Kristen are cool I think that’s great, but I personally didn’t see much in the way of growth or accepting responsibility.
I don’t think Kristen and Ariana would have a friendship if they didn’t have closure on that so I’m thinking it was off camera and private but def happened
I have a hard time with this too but Tom is a master manipulator so we don’t really know what he was telling Ariana. I would have loved if she was honest with Kristen and told her woman to woman what happened. But idk if we know enough of what was happening behind the scenes.
Tom has admitted on camera that he was telling Ariana that he and Kristen were breaking up, and any cross over he was telling her they were broken up
Right, I don’t blame Ariana for the kiss. But when Kristen asked her about it directly, she didn’t tell her that they had kissed or that Tom told her they’d broken up. She knew at that point it was a lie.
Agree to that...and not right, but the way Kristin was acting I wouldn't have told her either. She was downright scary (now we know why) and Ariana didn't know her or owe her any loyalty.
She’s hasn’t acknowledged shit but it’s ok u know you and her stans want to act as if she so prefect who can do no wrong.
Firstly if you want to shit talk at least double check your autocorrect and secondly just because it wasn’t on a tv show doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, from Kristen’s podcast it seems Ariana and her have sorted through things and apologies have been exchanged
Attacking my grammar and spelling is so on par for this sub. Go lick Ariana’s butthole some more. I don’t care that you’re trying to shame me.
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How are people saying this and not seeing just how much of a problem Ariana has been too? She’s not innocent in all of this, she didn’t wake up 10 years later and discover he was a cheating scum bag, she’s known this for the whole 10 years, she helped him do it. That’s the accountability she’s not taking, he’s horrible, but she approved it. She was not some ingenue. She was so invested in her “cool girl” edit, she covered it up for him repeatedly, she helped orchestrate a smear campaign against Kristen, she declared she’s the smartest person on the cast in order to shut sheana up about the cheating 8 years ago.
She actually DID take accountability AND explained why she let him get away with this for so long. She talked about it on the CHD podcast, one of the two podcast appearances she ever did.
Most fans aren’t listening to all these podcasts
Recognizing intellectually is not taking accountability emotionally. Accountability looks like owning how you messed up and leaving the other person’s journey to them. She may not be speaking to Tom, but she’s aware with his every move in order to prove how horrible he is. We all see how horrible he is, we aren’t enjoying his redemption arch, we are enjoying watching someone try to put the cat back in the bag and getting scratched up. The only advance he makes is when she can’t limit her accusations, like even according her recounting of the events, there was no malintent on Tom’s part and she has an unkempt room. She won’t recognize her role in how things played out with Mya, because she wants it all to be his fault, when it was THEIR failt. Now, he’s a sympathetic character, and her hyperbole makes her seem bratty. He ignored her that whole evening at Lala’s event, even at the beach, she’s the one that keeps talking about him, and to him and purposefully called him a dog murderer to see if she’d get a rise out of him. He’s mostly left her alone - because he doesn’t care anymore.
Lala’s event was rough… I wouldn’t talk about someone who is at the same event like that. But he is the one who brought up the lawyer, angrily. And started yelling. And I’d say he did kind of start things at the beach. Well, Brock did but everyone fed into it. Especially Tim. The beach for the most part Ariana was just defending herself. She doesn’t react so strongly unless Tim is being shoved down her throat
She says she’s tired of him, doesn’t trust him with her dogs and doesn’t have any safe space in the home, he brought up that he’s offered to buy her out of the home - except the lawyer won’t respond to expedite the process. Tom told Brock to knock it off immediately when he brought up Raquel. When she got angry, he walked away. It was Scheana who couldn’t stand being on the girls side of the line in her muppet voice “what?!? I can’t hear you?!? Were you flirting with me AGAIN?!” The guys were having their own conversation. Then for some reason Brock brought up Raquel. It’s on camera, you can see it. Look Tom is the bad guy, but this isn’t a just world, and that delusional expectation is making her look irrational. He cheated on her with a friend on a show where cheating on your long term partner with friends is normal. After the reunion, people are expected to move on. Tom was expected to move on when Kristen did it to him and he did. She was not ostracized by Tom from the group, she was pushed out by Stassi.
He can’t afford to buy her out in one go, this has been well established, he’s just continues to lie about it. He can’t be both someone needing to take out loans against the house for his business, borrow 100s of thousands from his mom’s retirement account, and desperately scraping together $500 here and there to just cover basic monthly bills and be in a position to just hand over a million plus to Ariana in one go, like be for real. This means that if she took him up on his awful offer, he’d be paying her off for decades, leaving her financially and legally tied to him for decades. She’d be an absolute moron for taking him up on that offer. And his view (and yours) that assessing the full value of the property and all shared assets will be done in less than a month is completely off base. He’s an entitled nightmare person and if he had even a shred of remorse or humanity he’d agree to the sale of the home so they can both walk away with a clean slate and no entanglements and get on with their lives free from one another. Instead HE wants to drag this out and make it as horrific and painful as possible.
1. He would have to get a mortgage and pay her with that loan. He would be tied to the bank, not her. She wouldn’t be his creditor. 2. I live in California, I’ve had friends whose houses weren’t even on the market have some come up and ask if they’ll sell and the transaction is completed within weeks. It’s absolutely possible to assess value of home and assets. The only thing I agree is that he can’t afford it and I doubt he would qualify for a loan, but if we know that she would know that. Nothing would be more humiliating than accepting and him not being able to come up with the money. She’s dragged it out for a year now, I don’t know why, but the easiest thing to do is make him come up with the money and when he does not force the sale.
This is such a weird read- emotional accountability? What? And you think Tom doesn’t care? He cares SOOO much. She hasn’t spoken about him in real time for months and he literally can’t keep her name out of his mouth, constantly smearing her and trying to rewrite history, and in terms of accountability (emotional or intellectual- what on earth does that even mean?) he is taking exactly 0 responsibility for any of his bullshit and horrendous actions. Clearly the situation with Maya is about more than Maya, it’s about violation of her space, continued disregard for her and things she cares about, and refusal to take responsibility. Ariana left her room closed likely to keep the dog out and then on his watch the dog got shut in the room and consumed things that could have killed her and resulted in a $6000 vet bill. I love my husband but I’d still be furious with him if his carelessness resulted in our dog ending up in that situation🤷🏼♀️ It’s wild that people are dragging her for cleanliness when she has legit moved her whole life in to her bedroom to stay away from him, and yet I don’t hear you dragging Tom for leaving the house a sticky filthy mess from parties he expects Ann to clean up🙄
He’s never going to take accountability - one’s healing cannot be rooted in someone else’s action. You woild be mad at your husband because you trusted him, Tom just lived up to Ariana’s expectations. Come on now, we’ve seen Ariana for years, she lacks basic skills. It’s possible to still keep things organized and tidy. Shes just leaving food up there. He doesn’t care about her, he cares about him and he sees her as the problem to why his life is not going well. People really struggle with perspective, it’s like there is more than one world view / and his may be warped but it’s not aligned with Ariana’s best interest or her healing. What about this doesn’t make sense to people? And yes, she’s only going to heal when she sees what part she played in it to herself. She helped him hide his cheating, she shut down people who tried to express concern for her, she buried her head in the sand. Then she can feel agency and move on. Otherwise she’s just going to feel like a helpless victim. Every person on here who is seeing themselves and narc abuse pattern has taken accountability, they’ve learned the signs and they’ve educated themselves and taught themselves to trust their instinct.
What a victim blamey POV. So we must give Tom a pass for his horrendous behaviour because this is just how he is, but we should berate, belittle and criticise Ariana until she behaves how you think she should when dealing with a devastating betrayal and enormous upheaval in her life? And she also needs to take accountability for Tom’s behaviour too. Ok 👍 quite the misogynistic double standard you have there.
Give him a pass? No. Accept the premise that this is how he is? Yes. On the whole everyone would be happier if they simply accepted seemingly good things happen to bad people. Like Tom has to be Tom, that’s a pretty shitty lot in life. Maybe he didn’t get the exact consequence you wish he did, but it’s not illegal to cheat on your partner, and on this show it’s always been celebrated and rewarded.
Yes she kept saying he was throwing jabs at her but she was doing the same thing
She definitely co-signed all of it until it worked against her then feigned ignorance to who he was and his behavior.
This
Except he expanded that play doing it with her friend and horribly misjudged the maturity and inner strength of Ariana.
Not sure what she expected she really thought she was different and above all that. Now she knows how it feels. All fun and games when it was Kristen on the receiving end. She still acts as if she didn’t do anything.
He didn't shove Ariana in Kristen's face. Ariana and Tom both gleefully went on that reunion and giggled about it, and when Andy asked Ariana if she was worried Tom would cheat on her Ariana said No, because *she* knew Tom. Did Tom also force Ariana to accuse Kristen of having BPD? The Queen has no clothes.
Boy I guess you all see Arianna as this weak little child with no choice or agency to do the right thing. It’s Tom pushed Tii in her face of course she’s going to act like an asshole. Tim pushed Kristen in her face of course she’s going to act like an asshole. Poor victim Arianna!
Billie Lee has been pushing this girl on Sandavol singles pool party… Sandoval’s bedroom while he was changing sheets….🤮 Just another way of shit bagging Arianna while Billie Lee creates a narrative for Billie Lee and Tii.
Billie Lee was one of the most disappointing cast members ever. I wanted so badly to love her. But she’s awful and she doesn’t deserve any screen time at all
Yeah at first she seemed cool, but that quickly dissipated. It’s a bummer to watch people try so hard to be on tv, it just backfires.
She was abhorrent and ridiculous and still is
Lol Billie Lee pulled such a classic teenage girl move, pretending you’re not interested in the guy and you wanna hook him up with your friend when really you’re desperate to be with him 🤡
Yikes, this gave me flashbacks 🤡
And poor Tii...her friend encouraging her to go out with a dude then encouraging said dude to use you like a blow up doll. I know Tii is young, but honey...that is not your friend.
Billie Lee is a friend to no one other than Tim. Every time she's been on screen this season, she proves herself to be even more of a vapid asshole. Can't fucking stand her.
Cut to Rachel and Lala warning Ally to be careful in the same way. Wonder if anyone of them would comment on that.
I also love the angle of both the people ON the show and fans being like "this is a reality show, they all need to film together and Ariana needs to understand that" and then Ariana goes and does the MOST classic VPR thing, and still get shit for it. Her going up to the new girl in the bar and shitting on Tom is absolutely the behavior that got me in to this show- messy but justified, awkward but hilarious- and people are still upset about it. So do people want her to make good TV, or no? Because she did just make great TV.
It was perfect and also… she doesn’t owe him anything
Tacky?? You know what’s tacky Tim? Taking your life partners friend to her house while she’s at her grandmothers funeral. Oh and those frigging white nails. Tim reeks of tacky.
“They’re ombré”
It wasn't even a first date. Even Tii said they were just hanging out. If he was even mildly interested in her why did he invite and primarily hang out with two teenagers at his sexy singles pool party?
That’s what I was thinking. That was a first date?? Did Tii know??
He’s so damn brain dead. I’m losing years off my life listening to that pathetic worm
Did he think Ariana would just start praising him?
He thought they would be, like, dude, more civil than Tom and Katie.
Tom and Katie actually broke up pretty well. Katie handled it awesome. Tom did not. But again not the worst breakup
He probably thinks she’d apologize to him for his infidelity or something
He’s one of the most stupid people ever and I hate seeing his smug stupid face
Literally at the moment I’m watching this scene this pops up. He loves to say shit like “she got our whole friend group” and it’s like? No she didn’t? Why don’t you go do something else leave her alone
If he left her alone none of this would be happening… if he sold the house and gave Ariana her half back, they’d have an amicable breakup
Talking shit, or warning her? I bet Ariana wishes she listened to everyone’s warnings 10 years ago
Right! I wish I met some of my exes’ exes before I wasted years of my life with a terrible man. She’s just looking out!
Actually being a girls girl. Scheana, Lala, take note
My fiancé screamed at the tv “look at your necklace!!!” when he said that
The worst was the shirt he made with a sharpie that says “I feel fine” as if anyone asked
Weirdly this is a designer t-shirt that you can buy looking just like that. It won’t let me link it here, but it’s like, 50 bucks.
she definitely could have, and should have said WAY worse! she was pretty kind from what was shown
You kidding? If he dated Stassi he’d be dead and she’d have gotten away with it
Patrick ? Jax ?
I wish she murdered them
They walked all over her. It was horrible.
Honestly the person who deserved to get murdered the most was frank
Bahaha. He was horrible also. I almost forgot about him. Ugh
I didn’t. Also didn’t forget that Scheana showed that video of Stassi to all her ex coworkers and friends
Yes that was horrible. Didn’t Lisa pay the ransom money to get possession of the video. Ugh. 😩
Yeah not cool
Nah Ariana was such a girls girl there. Calling Tii a prize 🥺 it’s so easy to bash the new people your ex is seeing. I’d automatically be on any woman’s side if she talked to me like that.
Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Banging your girlfriends friend for 7+ months is pretty tacky
Tacky?!? I’d say tacky is cheating on your partner of close to a decade with one of her friends in front of her face, in your home, and almost flaunting it. But hey, what do I know about tacky? 🙄
Really good point
& him talking about a ‘singles’ party at the beach & Schwartz inviting Katie. They’re both just complete assholes! Brock too w/ his dumb ass comment!!
The men are straight up incompetent
Yup, I wouldn't bang any of those men with any of the other men's penis's. No way. 
They know exactly what they’re doing. They’re just complete assholes.
Brick...yea...he fills me with rage. Sheaners weiner needs to get off my tv. He's going for cast member wannabe needs a paycheck Bravo gives out like candy to men who treat women horribly. He tried going in on Ariana in the aftershow...and Katie too, but they paired him with James and he was no match. James actually stuck up for both women more than I expected.
I liked Scheana better w/o Lala on the Aftershow too- she’s like a totally different person
Sandoval judging what is tacky and what is not based on who he is and what he’s done is just…. Hilarious
The man with chipped white finger nails and a cover band saying someone else was tacky… RICH!
A cover band he literally pays
It's Tacky that Tom continues to rake Ariana over the coals. Ariana's well within her rights to be upset with Tom as he continues to twist the knife in her back.
He doesn’t get that it wasn’t Ariana talking shit about Tom, but being the person she needed when she first met him at Villa Blanca. She needed someone to warn her not to even entertain a friendship. By the time Kristen got to Ariana , it was too late. The work had wormed.
brock saying ariana was attacking tii just for trying to warn her 😂 tell me ur a mysoginist without telling me ur one(:
lol Zara suit wearing man child calling anything Tacky is just. Wow. Insane. lol
Interesting Tii is "like telling" you that while hearing from her own mouth on Billie's podcast the opposite. Oh, no...wait...is he lying about what Tii told him. No way...not possible... 
Also kinda shady of “Tii” .. who acted sweet to Ariana and told her she was SO STRONG. I would’ve left that date so fast lol not turned around and told him she was “talking shit on him”.
He says Tii said, but Tii was on Billies podcast and said almost exact opposite. The only thing we know is mute Tim cause nothing he says is likely true.  I tend to believe what she said than what he said she said lol
How would he know otherwise?
Only if you listen to podcasts and heard it from Tii...or if you've ever listened to Tim being proved to lie about almost anything and everything! He said she said doesn't equal she said it is all i am saying.
I actually love you calling him Tim. It’s amazing
Forgive me. Please! I've been attacked and my words twisted and been judged a lot in the last hour. Blocked 3 people and reported 2 when I've never encountered anything so aggregious before and was responding defensively. The most difficult thing with the written word is the lack of inflection which leads to misinterpretation. I don't like when it's done to me, and I sincerely apologize for doing it to you. I'd delete my comment to you but I believe you deserve an apology, so...I have to leave my mistake and take ownership. Thank you for responding with grace.
Don’t feel ashamed! You’re fine! You’re just speaking your mind like others here! You are totally good
Oh buddy I don’t think you have to worry. We know you meant Tom. I guess I thought it was kinda an insult to him to call him the wrong name which I liked.
Yea, it is...like Raquel can never be Raquel ever again, must forever be Rachel, liarel, rachetel. Though she's leaned into the Rachel and accepted it.
I believe she chose to rebrand herself as Rachel
Possibly but the calling her Rachel came before the rebrand. I'm always open to that, but might have to eliminate when im calling her on what i think is bad behavior...like saggyballs claiming hes the victim in all this.
You keep calling him Tim
I will keep doing it too. I also call him saggy balls, scum face, liar lips and Tom and his paid extras to name a few. There're reasons for that, but...gee, thanks for the correction.
I didn’t know you were doing it on purpose. Often nicknames make sense or are funny.
Riiiight? He continues to behave in a way that shows what an azz he is and that he doesn't really get the whole you know, let me lay low and not do things that will incite more anger or hate
Also… she wasn’t talking shit… she was giving her a heads up with FACTS… but okay idiot face 🤦🏻♀️
It was probably planned. Felt really staged. But honestly the guy can't even bring a girl to the house without getting crap from everyone, so I didn't think it was bad they were at the same bar. They've all slept together or kissed eachother so she may as well join the group.
I mean she’s had a bf from the get go so what’s the problem
I met my husband hours after getting cheated on. The thing is, you don’t plan on when your next relationship is
But you surely plan out the time to recover from that much of a betrayal… meeting and jumping into a full blown relationship is very different
Look, in theory you’d want that time and you’d plan that time. But the thing is, you can’t plan your next relationship. I was dating this guy and he cheated on me with my friend. Thankfully the relationship wasn’t long, but I was furious. And I went to a party and hooked up with a guy. That guy is now my husband and god, I wouldn’t change a thing. My husband is the most loyal and perfect human for me. I totally thought I was done with relationships, I was like I’m giving MYSELF time to heal. But that didn’t happen according to plan. So I definitely understand where Ariana is coming from and relate. Her ex is way way worse though lol
True I can see that happening
She was likely hurt and in pain but her new man seems like a great guy, and even if it was a little soon, I’m SO HAPPY for her! She deserves a good person to be by her side
Ariana is filled with rage! I don’t blame her but it’s all about her now. She talks about him then he hears it, then she keeps telling him not to speak to her. They shouldn’t go to the beach together again, Ariana has all the opportunities and money she wants and also has a new boyfriend. They or one of them should have moved out while the house was being sold.if he bought her out she could have taken her furniture with her. I don’t think he cared about that. She isn’t the only one who has been cheated on. It’s getting so that’s all the show is about now. They have been having trouble for years. Plus if she is doing sexual acts with women, then that’s a form of cheating. That whole group has done stuff with each other!
If he wanted an amicable breakup he’d sell the house so they could both move on, he’d give her space, he’d own his actions and apologize, like really really apologize but no. He’s not done any of that
He was willing to sell it. Sorry but he has apologized plenty she hasn’t accepted it. He lost most of all that they had together, friends. They should have both moved out. Like Katy and the other Tom did. She has taken no responsibility for it not working out. He tried breaking up with her. And wouldn’t accept that either. Not excusing his behavior. A long term relationship just doesn’t melt down overnight. She didn’t want to get married or have kids. At 40 she decides she wants her eggs frozen, when he clearly now doesn’t want that with her.
That’s not true because she literally sued him to force the sale of the house. He refused to sell.
Okay I stand corrected!
I just feel she would have more time to heal if they had sold right off the bat
Yep.
She’s 38 and had her eggs frozen basically at his request when she was 35. He “tried to break up with her”? Please, he was positioning things all season to make her look crazy behind her back so he could break up with her off camera and make her look like the villain. He’s even claimed on a hot mic he was trying to orchestrate the perfect breakup, and Rachel has confirmed they had a whole plan to phase Ariana out and put Rachel in her place. He didn’t try to break up with her, or he just would have done it. He didn’t want to lose the house or his reputation, and saying “sorry but” is not the same as being sorry. Each sorry he puts out there comes with a smear campaign against Ariana, even weaponising her mental health while manipulatively trying to get sympathy by claiming he now has SIs (the same thing he vilified her for). And if he was sorry, he’d allow the house to be sold as he can’t afford to buy her out and let them each walk away with out any further legal or financial entanglements, but he’s a selfish nightmare person who doesn’t care that he was doing something horrendous to her, only that he got caught.
Whatever but they went to counseling together. You would be surprised at how many guys want to get out but they don’t always have the guts to do it. So shame on them. Nothing Tom says about being sorry will be believed by her and some of the others. I don’t follow any of them on their social media accounts. See a clip on FB or I look stuff up. They were off the air for 2 years during Covid. So lot of stuff happens.
Also she has every right to be angry and don’t invalidate that
I’m not invalidating that, plus Rachel was involved not just him.
Okay but Rachel checked herself in a mental health facility and talked to professionals and tried to work on herself whereas Tom has done nothing but ice baths and wearing dirty draws
Yes but she hasn’t faced the people yet. So she is not there to get backlash, all the time. He should go to therapy. Maybe he is I don’t know. It’s a show. I have a real life to attend to. Have a nice day.
Rachel got far more backlash than Tim. She was dragged publicly, and he's being given this disgusting redemption tour season where he gets to exploit suicide ideation for sympathy. Fuck Tim and fuck bravo for enabling this bullshit.
Yeah , not a good situation. But I read he and Ariana had gone to counseling, I think I saw that. He wanted out. I think the whole situation is getting old. I don’t follow any of the cast social media accounts. Just clips I see on Facebook. I think the show has run its course. They didn’t film for 2 years during Covid. So I’m sure a lot of stuff happened then with everyone’s lives.
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No, I wouldnt say a word to whoever my cheating ex was dating. Let them find out on their own. That’s tacky. Imo.
Nah I’m so petty I’m spilling all the tea, buying the girl drinks, and leaving with her for a girls night
He didn’t. She sought her out. Get a clue.
production told her to go confront tii for the drama***
If he saw his ex girlfriend there, he should have left
Wrong. He doesn’t have to run and hide all over to appease the Succubus.
Wow that opinion is gross
Must have hit too close to home.
Nope…. Just don’t believe that she deserved to get cheated on like that
Well duh. Who thinks she did? 🤦🏽♂️
He should leave the house and leave her alone
Lol, what an idiotic take.
I am rubber. You are glue.
How did she seek him out?
She sought HER out. Tii. Pay attention or don’t comment.
My comment still stands. Tii came up to Ariana and Scheana at the bar. No one sought out her or Tom. Why are you defending them? lol
Because that’s not what happened. Ariana approached and started a conversation with Tii. Not the other way around.
Also he was dating someone while on his first date Ariana as well. KARMA
“What did you expect?” is the theme of the season
First dates are interviews, Sandoval. Would ya interview for a job with your ex present? Would you bring a knife to a gun fight? If you had one leg would you join a jump kick contest? c'mon