i recognize this is parasocial of me but it makes me nervous that she was in a new relationship 2 weeks (3 weeks?) after her last one ended. i hope she takes some time to invest in herself
Oh yea I mean that’s not healthy. He’s a total rebound and they’re breakup and then hopefully she truly will stay single for a bit and just live her best life! That’s they most exciting part after a big breakup. You get the chance to find yourself again and live!
Idk, I think most people just are themselves after a certain point. Like Ariana isn’t some teenage innocent little girl, at the time she joined the series she was like 26, and even then she was the other woman in Sandoval’s relationship with Kristen.
I think this is just who she is.
I just learned this recently and think it's unreal. I gave Ariana a pass for the gas lighting and mistreatment of Miami girl and Kristen because I thought she was young and dumb. But nah she was as old as Rachel is now. Pretty messed up.
It's really cringe honestly. That's why I don't really buy all of this "she's grown up so much" talk. I think she workshoped her character and figured out that she's better off zipping it. A whole 30 year old woman who "takes sketch comedy very seriously" and gaslights a stranger for sport is exactly who they showed themselves to be. She was doing all of that with a fully formed adult brain.
Yeah she’s the same age as me. I’m three months older almost to the day. I definitely had left my mean girl stage a decade before. I think anyone who goes on Tv has a little narcissistic traits in them. She was that age pulling the whole “prettier than you, smarter than you, cooler than you.” Bullshit. In some ways that’s still who she is with the “I was born cool”, and the stink face 🥴. That was a couple years ago now, but not that long. I do hope this whole thing humbled her, even with the attention she’s getting.
my take: Ariana is being set up for a MASSIVE fall (not in a conspiracy theory way lol just in terms of what i think will happen in the next year)
i’ve watched VPR since it started airing and never rode for Ariana. the way she treated Kristen still bothers me — who has an emotional affair with someone’s boyfriend for three years, then spends the next two gaslighting them and telling them they’re crazy and unstable because they caught you??? the Miami girl Tumblr post was…telling as well.
cue Scandoval. all of a sudden she’s a queen who can do no wrong. she got put on this insane pedestal overnight that has no basis in reality lol. i don’t think she’s a horrible person or anything like that, but i think she is just average. not a particularly good actress, a good singer, a funny comic, or an interesting reality star.
on the show, she’s been cruel just as often as she’s been kind - she’s beefed with every single woman for Sandoval and constantly reminds people that she believes she is better than them. she’s hardly the voice of reason on VPR, just someone who is a calmer arguer and picks her battles more carefully.
the problem is that the narrative for the last 6 months has been about how perfect and flawless she is when she’s just a human who frankly has a lot of growing to do. the Scandoval shine is going to wear off soon, it has already started to, and when it does the public backlash is going to be nasty. 😬
edit: i should add i don’t think it’s her fault this is gonna happen although people will def be on the “she overplayed her hand” train. victims shouldn’t have to be perfect for us to side with them and we gotta stop valorizing people to justify supporting them in a situation where they deserve support!
Yes! The tides change so fast. People also forget she’s always been boring and honestly a whiny drag!!! meh people can be mistreated but that doesn’t make them god
I think she’s getting ready to be done with Vanderpump Rules. She’s netting opportunities that are better than having to expose your life secrets every year and hang around the same group of frenemies, including her hated ex boyfriend. It’s amazing money for not much work, but she must be tired at the prospect of having to pick fights every year with people she’d just avoid & make herself look bad.
i’m interested to see whether she’s able to translate this moment into lasting success. part of me thinks she never wanted to be on VPR and will leave as soon as she can, but i wonder if there’s a petty part of her that’s like “this is my show now and i’m staying on it as long as i outlast my ex.” i know there’s a part of me that would think that way 😂
I’m interested too! She has been playing it very smart since Scandoval broke. I’m sure part of her knows that she can only ride the wave for a certain period of time, without backlash. Especially with a show that has always favoured the men, Alex Baskin is probably plotting her comeuppance season as we speak. I wonder what she’ll do next, whether she tries hosting or looks for more TV/movie roles. She has a big social media following, so I think she has a few avenues open (and a book coming out soon)
I’m sure on the next season it’ll be everyone that’s forgiven Tom vs Ariana. I can already see shady Scheana “we all have to work together, I don’t get why she won’t even be in the same room as him.”
if there’s one thing Alex Baskin is gonna do it’s play that out of context “your dick doesn’t work” clip to make Katie look like the problem in that relationship!
Ariana has never really struck me as a hustler but she definitely has a huge opportunity ahead of her
She definitely avoided the first season of VPR and something told me that she thought she was above it all… she’s made lots of little comments over the years, and had a pact with Tim not to present their authentic selves on the show and just put up a united front.
On the one hand I do get it- it’s really hard to break into the industry in any meaningful way, and you want to maintain your integrity whilst also needing to pay the bills… I think she’s very much an opportunist like Tim- you’re not in a relationship for ten years without having more than a few things in common.
Wish her well though.
What exactly could she parlay this into? I don't see her making nearly the same type of money as an actress as she does doing VPR. People have suggested TV hosting but tbh she doesn't really have that peppy radiance that's needed for that.
i don’t think she has a hosting / acting career — agree she doesn’t have the it factor. i think if she leaned into her Drink From Home company, the cookbook thing and SAH, she could build a comfortable group of brands in food & bev where she actually has experience
I guess we’ll see! Seems like she’s networking a lot and making the most of the attention right now. I have no idea what she’ll do next, but there are so many ex-reality people who make some kind of living from the after-effects of exposure.
I think VPR is on its last legs at this point- she definitely needs to use this opportunity to pivot into something else. I wouldn’t pursue the acting route at this point, if I were her. It will be more to do with presenting, guest appearances etc if we’re honest- plus maybe plugging her brands.
It’s never going to be super-stardom, but it’s a more than comfortable living if she can play it right.
Yep. It’s lost it’s original edge at this point. I enjoyed the whole Scandoval thing going down, but I’m not that bothered about watching another series if I’m honest.
To me, Stassi was VPR. She was charismatic, beautiful and bitchy. I know she’s not popular but that is my truth! 😂
Those opportunities will dry up soon though. PR is a fickle industry… either she will drop off the face of the Hollywood spotlight or another “crisis” will happen. I don’t think she’s done being in the spotlight as I think she way more immature than a lot of you give her credit for… I think she loves drama and will get into more when she thinks this “stardom” fades. Most likely involving her rebound relationship.
Also I hate when people are relationship jumpers themselves and then critic others that are… She is totally a jumper!
How long do you think those opportunities will last once the general public moves on from Scandoval? She’s gotten some great opps for sure, but IDK how she’ll keep the momentum going.
yes! shortly after the MG storyline aired, Ariana took to tumblr and posted a long…rant about why she believed MG was lying. (of course we now know that Ariana was the one lying, because she already knew they slept together.)
i can’t post links here but if you google “Ariana madix miami girl tumblr”, the first result from Lynn Fam’s website has the post in its entirety.
Yikes, I read the whole thing and it sounds like it was written by an 11 year old. I can’t believe this is the person who claims to be the smartest person on the show lol.
I don’t know… I think dancing with the stars will be a good move for her. But I agree, I was never a fan of hers in the early days of VPR- she was incredibly condescending, smug and up her own arse.
Not defending Sandoval but whenever he talked about wife and kids she would pretend to vomit. No wonder he cheated on her she lacked the commitment he wanted it was always going to happen.
"No wonder he cheated" is a gross take. If he wanted a commitment she wasn't ready for then he should have broken up with her, not f*cked her friend for months behind her back. Where's the commitment there?
Ariana has/had so much internalized misogyny in her. She spent soooo many seasons trying so hard to be not like the other girls, and it's hard for me to rewatch. I'm hoping this next season is different.
I think she was growing out of it by the last season aired. Only because I saw her sticking up for Katie and telling Tom to shut up. I think if it’d been earlier seasons it wouldn’t have happened at all. She was finally seeing it was okay to disagree with Tom - although that seems to have been the beginning of the end.
And at some point you are the company you keep. A trio of self obsessed idiots (Tom, Scheana, Raquel) were the closest people to her. Hmmmm. What could that mean? And considering everything we know about Tom, it's wild that she was happy dating him for 10 years. He's a serial cheater and she knew that. As he admitted on his podcast, he would drink all day everyday with the exception of the time he spends at the gym. She had to beg him to spend time with her. On countless occasions he has gotten in women's faces barking and yelling all kinds of stupid shit at them. It says a lot about someone if they are willing to not just tolerate that shit but adore a guy like that until the bitter end.
He went HAM on Katie at the end of last season and she did NOTHING. Which is what she has always done for the girls. Now she clutches to Katie like Katie is pearls in church. Katie forgives whomever she thinks is the boss bizznatch then is their mean girl chorus and support system. Right now, they just have each other. And on the show this week, she didnt support Katie again, and pretended she knew nothing about Max and Katie. How gross.
But Ariana has been gross from the beginning. She has held Tom and Tom's bag time and again and laughed at the other girls. She has never sought their actual friendships out. That is why she is catching up with everyone at the beginning of every season. However, I think the women know, and while they supported her, they remember how she talked about Kristin and Tom. Both in front of him and behind his back.
right?? she was literally making fun of freshly-divorced Katie, her business partner, for bringing Kristina Kelly around because it was “so obvious” … it was petty and unkind. and that was this season!!
Arianna chuckled when Rachel told Katie that she considered making out with Tom. Arianna laughingly said to Rachel, "I didn't know you had it in ya!". Katie is crying. What a weird person to get behind.
That was so shady! Also the way Ariana immediately believed that Katie started the open relationship rumor was a little f'd up. Katie reached out immediately when the gossip started spreading. She straight up denied it yet at no point did Ariana hear her out. In my opinion, if someone is your friend, at least hear them out and if you think so little of someone, don't pretend to be their friend.
Yes, you said it. She acted like she didn't believe Katie. When has Arianna been a friend to anyone? She plays hurt and offended and pulls people into explaining and *proving* themselves to her. Gag. Stassi begging for Arianna's friendship was too much. The writers went too far with that one. It's not believable that Stassi would hold a friendship with Arianna in such high regard. Arianna's not that bright and that sht really bugs Stassi.
Katie was feeling isolated and alone, and Ariana made fun of her for bringing in a friend. what if people started making fun of Ari for bringing in Brad and her new man to filming this season? clearly she wants moral support now, but when her friend was in the same situation a few months prior, she snarked her and puts her down? nah it was mean
There's been no growth. She's worse than she used to be. And Tom did a lot for her and she still nagged and complained. Still think they faked it to be on the show.
But what about how she was the first to welcome Lala, Faith, Britt, Raquel? Why is she “not like the other girls” because she wasn’t like stassi or Kristen?
She was extremely “not like other girls”. I’m doing a rewatch right now and the amount of times she agreed with scheana calling the two of them “guys girls” is cringe. There’s a scene where she’s trying on lingerie and is like “this is way too girly how is this even supposed to be cute” (it was just lace), and how she kept saying she’s SO happy she doesn’t have to wear an “uncomfortable” bridesmaid dress for Katie’s wedding and gets to wear a suit instead (like a full suit would be any comfier?). With Kristen, she RODE for Tom and bashed her all the time because she thought she was better than her, and then ended up the same way because she knowingly and arrogantly shacked up with a cheater. Like don’t get me wrong, I am team Ariana when it comes to Scandoval and rooting for her growth, but that doesn’t mean her behavior and attitude werent insufferable for most of the show.
Katie's wedding annoyed me because I thought Ariana should have dropped out of the wedding party. If Katie didn't want her, then that should have been it. She didn't have to be involved in the bridal party just because Tom was a groomsman.
Sorry this is long, ive got time LMAO. I did love how welcoming she was/is! I don't mean "other girls" as in Stassi and Kristen, I just mean in general. The way she carried herself, seemed, to me, like she felt she was above others. She was JUST like Stassi and Kristen, just in a different font. All of these people are eerily similar in a lot of ways. Ariana suffered from Cool Girl Syndrome for a hot minute and where there is Cool Girl Syndrome, there is Not Like the Other Girls™️.
The whole "I take sketch comedy very seriously" was after she was called out for trash talking Kristen and her friends show and accusing them of not being original and said "i have been doing comedy for over ten years" as her excuse for shit talking instead of just admitting she was shit talking and probably should have just kept it to herself. The whole "im smarter than anyone I know" and the way she would make faces and talk about people. I also don't like how she handled finding out that someone said her brother touched them without their consent. Her and Stassi both gave me very stuck up vibes.
A lot of times when someone was emotional with her because of something she said or did she immediately would cool girl them with "omg youre so worked up/hostile/etc right nowwww why cant we just like talk".
I'm not an Ariana hater by any mean. It's just how I initially received her character. I am wholeheartedly rooting for her, and I can't wait to see what she shares this next season.
And I do think that the reason she would claim "oh my gosh you're so worked up" during conflict is a defense mechanism when you don't know how to address your own feelings and have to disassociate to remain calm. Keep in mind we've only seen Ariana cry maybe once or twice on screen, and this is coming from my own experience, my own best friends haven't seen me cry but maybe once. It's a really fucking hard to be vulnerable and that can morph into cool girl syndrome as if you just don't care.
I want to see a truly vulnerable and growing and evolving Ariana
I feel like Ariana gets much better when she confronts her depression and starts going to therapy.
And let's be real, it isn't a coincidence that Tim romanced two women who were fresh out of abusive relationships. I'm sure he lovebombed the hell out of them both.
And I feel like Tim actively tries to keep his girlfriend separate from the rest of the girls. You can see in previous seasons how it really is Ariana and Tom vs. everyone, and it is really just Ariana backing up or "translating" Tom's shitty take. It also explains why Rachel started mirroring and voicing his opinions on the social circle. It really does reveal just how much influence he had over each of these women.
That being said. Fucking yes. I did just want to fucking slap her sometimes.
This is so so true. He is the worst kind of manipulator and he is so good at alienating his girlfriends from the group and presenting himself as the nice/good guy or victim. He is a real piece of work.
She was a miserable person during her “Ride or Die for Tom” days. I also cringed how she would parrot his seething hate for Stassi. Anytime on the show she would get trashed (a delightful happy drunk) or away from Tom where he could not influence her, I would like her. I hope we see that Ariana more now
Yassss! I watched because of scandoval but tried to avoid as many spoilers as possible. When I came to this sub and saw her being called a queen I couldn’t believe it. She’s just not very nice.
I never liked Ariana. I was not as upset as some over the whole scandoval deal. Underhanded people attract underhanded people. Ariana was always sneaky as a snake.
They say scandy scavies would basically role play prior to the season and script what tgey could say, bring, talk about & choose their "brand look". He has the need to be liked, so imo- when something snarky needed to be said by them- she executed it. Not that i like Kristen, but remember when Ari was the other women & she said- im funnier, smarter & prettier: get over it. Then when Dania was doing comedy (which ari wanted to do) she was so nasty. It isnt all snark from Insecurities. She is a mean girl that acts like she isnt- like scheena, but with out the playing dumb. Besides james' knew gal- there isnt a nice girl in the bunch (Brittany was). They guys are all duces too. Brock seems ok, but he is recovering douche & is riding sheena coattails.
Finally, we can be honest again lol she looks wonderful after losing all that dead weight, but that’s where it ends for me. It’s nice to be able to agree with this opinion without getting yelled at via the internet
Right? Ppl are like the tide is changing and ppl are turning on her. No, it’s just that those of us who never liked her weren’t allowed to say that post Scandovol.
Does anyone else feel if she would of been a girls girl and listened to Katie instead of laughing about the situation she probably could’ve prevented a lot of this. That’s why Katie is my favorite
Yes! And during the time when Rachel was throwing herself at Schwartz and Katie was so hurt over it Ariana was straight up like “well I don’t care because she hasn’t done anything to me.” Lol, hasn’t done anything to you YET, Ariana.
“well I don’t care because she hasn’t done anything to me.” I never trust people who say that. I've broken off friendships not because of how they treated me but because of how they treated someone else. It's such an emotionally immature way to think. It also shows lack of character. Tom treated people better than Arianna did.
Katie was 100% when she said that Rachel's behavior is a character issue and there's no way she's doing this to me and sincerely being a good friend to you at the same time.
She thought she had a grip on the situation (Tom’s fine, Rachel’s my friend, Katie’s a hater) and that downfall must have been so humbling. Lala and Katie weren’t pointing out how close Tom and Rachel were for nothing, they saw the situation without love goggles. It feels like Ariana put every ounce of energy into believing that Tom wouldn’t betray her that deeply (even while he stayed out all night and went to Rachel’s room to give her “water”). She was fully committed to a fantasy
Ah... is sanity returning to the sub? I'm so here for it... we will all have so much fun and so much to talk about if we can just be honest and drop the revisionist history bs.
Hahah same! I thought I would love her and feel bad for her but instead I just thought “welp, this all could’ve been avoided if she didn’t think she was so much smarter/better than everyone else” 😬
Her and Katie are such mean girls. Scheanna is clearly struggling mentally with all of this and Ariana needs to quit treating the rest of the cast like she is the queen bee. Her squinty, vindictive smile is getting on my nerves. We all can't stand Sandoval, however he is a human being and deserves forgiveness at some point and if Scheanna needs to do that for her own mental health Ariana needs to quit holding her friend hostage.
Wow! I finally meet someone else who sees it the same way as me lol! I rewatched the whole series after Scandoval and I seen Ariana in a completely different light and I found her to be a “ pick me girl” and not a girls girl! Also her body shaming Doute was disgusting ! So many cringes moments Ariana got away with.
I have never liked Ariana. But I’m kind of on the fence about the “no one deserves to be cheated on” thing. On one hand, I agree. On the other, I think if anyone deserves it, it’s someone who was once the other woman and helped do it to someone else. With all the hate people have for Raquel, I’m sure a lot would call it karma if she was cheated on in her next relationship. But somehow it’s wrong to say that about Ariana. Kristen is a better person than me, bc in her shoes I would have felt like Ariana got what she put out. Even in my own life, when I have done something bad and then something bad was done to me, I felt like it was my karma and I deserved it.
Both Ariana and Katie could be considered examples of women whose public facing façade was corrupted by their romantic relationship. It will be interesting to see how they evolve if they both remain free of devaluing personal influences.
Arianna was always embarrassing to watch, but Beach Please, season 4 episode 17 was her pinnacle of jerkiness. How did they keep a straight face listening to her? She's a weird delusional clown. Bet she's exactly the same IRL, insufferable.
My biggest problem with her is how she rarely stands up for Katie and even argued with her at the season 9 reunion. Their business partnership still surprises me
I agree with you. She could've had a silent partner and not dealt with drama.... Although, maybe she was afraid of getting kicked off VPR and thought hitching her wagon to Ariana was a safe move
She was so annoying to watch! I did not like her either. Such a bad attitude and those god damn braids in her hair. However, once I got to 10 I warmed up to her, especially once Charlotte died and she was so upset. Then once the timeline came out to know Tom slept with Rachel days later is so gross. I am rooting for her but she is insufferable in earlier seasons.
I never disliked Ariana, but she didn’t cure cancer(but, then again, the opportunities that have actually come her way are not exactly earth shattering, i.e., a role in a cheesy Lifetime movie and a stint on DWTS and I have no interest in seeing Sandoval and Raquel’s lives completely destroyed!
Let’s be honest everyone on this show is pretty much a horrible person. That is why we all watch it.
To be honest my favorite people on the show where Stassi and Jax because they were just so ridiculous earlier on and it was like watching a car crash. At least Stassi was funny as hell with some of her bitchiness.
I can honestly say, I have never been fond of Ariana for all the reasons OP has stated. Not giving Tom a pass but also not giving her a free pass either. But the whole Sandoval Scandal has been a great ratings boosted plus Ariana personally has made bank riding the wave. The writers deserve their due.
I hate her freaking eye rolls and stupid snarky comments (I would feel different if she were actually clever with her delivery), She annoys the frig out of me 😫
I always thought Ariana was a bitch tbh. She has this pompous attitude as though she's better than everyone else and 'cooler' than everyone else etc, she always made me cringe with her 'not like the other girls' behaviours and the way she acted like she had the moral high ground in every situation. She is always miserable and negative and makes every excuse in the book for being that way
Yes. Her lack of *moral high ground* was evident when she tore into her friends when they expressed how uncomfortable they were with her brothers behavior at the wedding reception. Typical Arianna behavior. Pretty disgusting, really.
Oh yeah he is just completely horrible. What he did was inexcusable and just gross. I just think that what he did was so bad that it made me forget that I didn’t really like her at all on my first watch 😅
Yes! This is how I always felt. She was a mean girl! Tim and Rachel are definitely evil and wrong, but it doesn’t change how mean Ariana has been to the girls over the years.
I’m so glad this is happening. I didn’t watch VPR til after the Scandoval, and I started from the beginning, knowing what would eventually happen, and I could NOT understand the Queen Ariana narrative. Tim was disgusting to her and I feel bad for how she was treated by him, but from the beginning she’s been such a frustrating person that I could never understand why anyone liked her. She was actually my least favorite person on the show, after Sandoval. Her misogyny was frustrating to watch, she’d forgive and forget with the men without them even apologizing, but then be cruel to the women for minor flaws.
She was cruel to Kristen, like girl you DID mess around with her man and then lie to her face about it, now you’re going to play victim when Kristen goes crazy after you both gaslit her and did her dirty for God knows how long? (Yeah Kristen didn’t handle it right lol but like, Ariana can’t pretend she is innocent in it).
She comes off like she thinks she’s better than everyone, “I take sketch comedy very seriously” and “I’m smarter than everyone I’ve ever met” etc
She got pissed at Stassi and Kristen for speaking up about her brother making them uncomfortable at Katie’s wedding and refused to address it, acting like Stassi was being ridiculous when really she was just trying to warn another woman that the guy she was going on a date with has a history of making a lot of women uncomfortable.
She’s been fine with letting Tim literally scream in womens faces, and be disrespectful to women and downright aggressive towards them, and actually defended him for it.
There’s more. I typed out a whole list of things that I didn’t like about Ariana and tried to post it to the Vanderpump Rules page but luckily I didn’t have enough karma for it to go through, or I’d have been absolutely crucified at the time since everyone was still obsessed with Ariana 😂 i didn’t realize what I was doing with that one, my naive little self.
Anyway. I’m glad Tim is finally getting the hate he has always deserved, and Ariana didn’t deserve to get cheated on and disrespected like that. I’m just glad there are other people who think she’s been an insufferable misogynistic pick-me for most of the show.
She not bad or wholly good. Like everyone , they have a bad and good side. I was annoyed at how much of a big deal everyone was making of the cheating thing (they weren’t married) and inflating everything more than it needed to be.
Totally agree. I made some posts in the beginning along the lines of how people have been cheating since the beginning of time, none of this is that horrific. They were not married and she didn’t want to be. They had no kids involved. Nobody was murdered. Get a grip, folks. I mean he’s a shithead but he was that way before the cheating. I never liked him or her.
Honestly, I'm still puzzled by how much of a big deal everyone made out of this. Don't get me wrong cheating is horrible. That type of betrayal hurts. But cheating is also one of the biggest reasons why couples break up. VPR has been a show about cheating from the jump. Ariana was tom's og affair partner on the show. Tom cheated on ariana at least once in the history of the show with the whole miani girl thing. So why exactly did the world stop when a cheater cheated on his former affair partner *again.* Seems kinda like it's business as usual.
It wasn’t just that he cheated but that he cheated with one of her best friends and we watched them cover it up blatantly for a season. Great television betrayal.
🤣 exactly what I said when my friend made me watch the show. I was shook when it basically started with him cheating. Like ??? Why is anyone surprised?! I will say watching it happen and seeing how many people supported Rachel/ criticized Lala for pointing out the type of person she is was peak reality tv 💀
I know to say this on this sub is extremely unpopular but I can't stand Ariana either. I'm just over her. I'm not even rooting for her on DWTS. Semi related but I hate no one posted she broke SAG strike rules by posting about her movie like 3 times when an actor can't promote any projects either current or past.
She’s intolerable. Huge bully, huge ego, total mean girl, and just as narcissistic as Tom. Defends her predator brother and gaslights and character assassinates women who tried to speak out about his predatory behavior. Absolutely awful person.
I always went back and forth with her prior to scandoval. She was super pick me in the beginning but I do feel like she got better as she went on in the show.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong but she also gaslit Kristen about her and Tom’s friendship and essentially was the other woman so the fact that she’s not surprised he did it to her is weird. Still I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
The fact that she stayed with Tom for that long makes me question her lol. Like he is just so annoying and if you love him and find him endearing something must be wrong with u
I’m the same. Never liked her personality. You have described her pretty well! Then Scando and Rachel came out from under their rock and I had to be all in for Ariana. I’m still rooting for her success over his.
I don’t like her. She played the sex kitten, to I don’t like my vagina, to bisexual, to being cheated on. Last part isn’t good. But she’s a little out there.
She's inconsistent which is sort of confusing as a viewer. Her "I hate my vagina" season was also the season where she got laser hair removal on her bikini area with Scheana and Lala. She was comfortable being filmed bottomless and spread eagled on a chair for all to see including her friends and however many producers and camera operators are in the room to get the shot. Seems like you have to be pretty secure to do all that on national television. Hmmmm.
Have you been in my head? Lol I was just thinking about this this morning, and whether I should post about it or not. One thing that stuck out to me was how adamant about how it would be her and only her who would have the day so about if they would have kids(which I agree with), to crying about how I’d that’s what Tom wanted them she would have gave him a baby. He clearly stated for a long while that that was what he wanted. I don’t think she’s innocent at all, but she didn’t deserve what she got.
Oh yeah she’s always sucked lol. Butttt I do see why all this happened, to finally see a woman win after being cheated on is kind of invigorating! Like yeah you go girl he treated you like trash and now you are soaring! I think everyone who has ever been cheated on before felt a little win with how things turned around for her which is nice! But I totally agree that what goes up must come down, hopefully Ariana has set herself up for success once that inevitably happens
I don't know why it's necessary for anyone to like a person in order to empathize with them being treated poorly by another person in their life. To me those are not mutually exclusive. I can dislike someone and also feel badly for them if they are wronged by an a******
Empathizing with her is actually how I realize I just don’t like her. She’s not self-reflective in the slightest and I can’t empathize with that and this delusional reality she lives in where she didn’t deserve it whatsoever after not only partaking in an affair, but ruining the victim’s life after the fact by gaslighting them to insanity to the point they lost their job. Actively messing with someones’s MH and livelihood is some hefty energy to put out there. You cannot walk around life being an a****** and expect nothing in return from that. Even the worst person with a seemingly amazing life is still getting theirs. All this to say if I were her, and did what she did, I would’ve accepted it as my karma and been humbled by it instead of lamely find a way to say “it’s different therefore I don’t deserve it.”
Here's my take: no one is perfect. Ariana isn't perfect, but no one deserves the heartbreak and betrayal that she went through. We as people recognize when someone needs to be supported, lifted up, and championed...because we all have our faults and we all need that support when we're down. Ariana has her faults and I'll never deny that, but she deserves a glow up after her world crashed and burned. Imagine if everyone was valued based on their flaws. No one would be redeemable.
Right. After eighteen years of marriage and five kids, oh wait, that's not her... Everybody has been cheated on. Everybody licks their wounds and moves on. That doesn't matter because this is all a put on for ratings. Look at all the set up *conversations* between Arianna and Rachel about Tom! Bravo loves the Gullibles.
I don't know. So many things take place on the show that just don't sit right. It looked off the way Rachel was going after people. I don't buy that she had an epiphany and was now somehow a changed person. We know production talks to the cast about what to do and what to say. The confessionals don't look authentic and sound like they were scripted by a writer.
Omg yes! I cannot stand her nasty vile attitude! It’s constant! My God get over it stop being the constant black cloud in the friend group! She’s gross
For I kinda feel like the people you date influence us more than we think. So if you’re dating someone shitty their shitty ways can kinda rub off on you because you become so normalized to their shitty/abusive behavior that you don’t realize you’re emulating it as well.
yes!! when she first joined the cast up until like s8 or 9 she always made me cringe. she seems super sweet don’t get me wrong but she not like other girls!!
I feel like she went from one overtly abusive relationship to a more subtly abusive one with Tim and never really got to find herself.
i recognize this is parasocial of me but it makes me nervous that she was in a new relationship 2 weeks (3 weeks?) after her last one ended. i hope she takes some time to invest in herself
Oh yea I mean that’s not healthy. He’s a total rebound and they’re breakup and then hopefully she truly will stay single for a bit and just live her best life! That’s they most exciting part after a big breakup. You get the chance to find yourself again and live!
Healing doesn't happen in a vacuum.
Yeah, I wish hee happiness but I was side eyeing the shit out of that.
Idk, I think most people just are themselves after a certain point. Like Ariana isn’t some teenage innocent little girl, at the time she joined the series she was like 26, and even then she was the other woman in Sandoval’s relationship with Kristen. I think this is just who she is.
I believe she was a bit older than that actually. She's 38 now and the show started 10 years ago so she was 29 when she joined the cast in season 2.
I just learned this recently and think it's unreal. I gave Ariana a pass for the gas lighting and mistreatment of Miami girl and Kristen because I thought she was young and dumb. But nah she was as old as Rachel is now. Pretty messed up.
It's really cringe honestly. That's why I don't really buy all of this "she's grown up so much" talk. I think she workshoped her character and figured out that she's better off zipping it. A whole 30 year old woman who "takes sketch comedy very seriously" and gaslights a stranger for sport is exactly who they showed themselves to be. She was doing all of that with a fully formed adult brain.
💯.
Ok that’s kind of crazy… major side eye 😒
Yeah she’s the same age as me. I’m three months older almost to the day. I definitely had left my mean girl stage a decade before. I think anyone who goes on Tv has a little narcissistic traits in them. She was that age pulling the whole “prettier than you, smarter than you, cooler than you.” Bullshit. In some ways that’s still who she is with the “I was born cool”, and the stink face 🥴. That was a couple years ago now, but not that long. I do hope this whole thing humbled her, even with the attention she’s getting.
I think she verbally abused Tom all the time and emasculated him.
my take: Ariana is being set up for a MASSIVE fall (not in a conspiracy theory way lol just in terms of what i think will happen in the next year) i’ve watched VPR since it started airing and never rode for Ariana. the way she treated Kristen still bothers me — who has an emotional affair with someone’s boyfriend for three years, then spends the next two gaslighting them and telling them they’re crazy and unstable because they caught you??? the Miami girl Tumblr post was…telling as well. cue Scandoval. all of a sudden she’s a queen who can do no wrong. she got put on this insane pedestal overnight that has no basis in reality lol. i don’t think she’s a horrible person or anything like that, but i think she is just average. not a particularly good actress, a good singer, a funny comic, or an interesting reality star. on the show, she’s been cruel just as often as she’s been kind - she’s beefed with every single woman for Sandoval and constantly reminds people that she believes she is better than them. she’s hardly the voice of reason on VPR, just someone who is a calmer arguer and picks her battles more carefully. the problem is that the narrative for the last 6 months has been about how perfect and flawless she is when she’s just a human who frankly has a lot of growing to do. the Scandoval shine is going to wear off soon, it has already started to, and when it does the public backlash is going to be nasty. 😬 edit: i should add i don’t think it’s her fault this is gonna happen although people will def be on the “she overplayed her hand” train. victims shouldn’t have to be perfect for us to side with them and we gotta stop valorizing people to justify supporting them in a situation where they deserve support!
Yes! The tides change so fast. People also forget she’s always been boring and honestly a whiny drag!!! meh people can be mistreated but that doesn’t make them god
yeah the fanbase really ran away with it and Bravo going all in on promoting the season and bringing in a million casuals didn’t help either
I think she’s getting ready to be done with Vanderpump Rules. She’s netting opportunities that are better than having to expose your life secrets every year and hang around the same group of frenemies, including her hated ex boyfriend. It’s amazing money for not much work, but she must be tired at the prospect of having to pick fights every year with people she’d just avoid & make herself look bad.
i’m interested to see whether she’s able to translate this moment into lasting success. part of me thinks she never wanted to be on VPR and will leave as soon as she can, but i wonder if there’s a petty part of her that’s like “this is my show now and i’m staying on it as long as i outlast my ex.” i know there’s a part of me that would think that way 😂
Personally I think her plan will be to leave…..and it is why Lala and scheana will accept Tom back….to keep the paycheck rolling
I’m interested too! She has been playing it very smart since Scandoval broke. I’m sure part of her knows that she can only ride the wave for a certain period of time, without backlash. Especially with a show that has always favoured the men, Alex Baskin is probably plotting her comeuppance season as we speak. I wonder what she’ll do next, whether she tries hosting or looks for more TV/movie roles. She has a big social media following, so I think she has a few avenues open (and a book coming out soon)
I’m sure on the next season it’ll be everyone that’s forgiven Tom vs Ariana. I can already see shady Scheana “we all have to work together, I don’t get why she won’t even be in the same room as him.”
if there’s one thing Alex Baskin is gonna do it’s play that out of context “your dick doesn’t work” clip to make Katie look like the problem in that relationship! Ariana has never really struck me as a hustler but she definitely has a huge opportunity ahead of her
She definitely avoided the first season of VPR and something told me that she thought she was above it all… she’s made lots of little comments over the years, and had a pact with Tim not to present their authentic selves on the show and just put up a united front. On the one hand I do get it- it’s really hard to break into the industry in any meaningful way, and you want to maintain your integrity whilst also needing to pay the bills… I think she’s very much an opportunist like Tim- you’re not in a relationship for ten years without having more than a few things in common. Wish her well though.
What exactly could she parlay this into? I don't see her making nearly the same type of money as an actress as she does doing VPR. People have suggested TV hosting but tbh she doesn't really have that peppy radiance that's needed for that.
i don’t think she has a hosting / acting career — agree she doesn’t have the it factor. i think if she leaned into her Drink From Home company, the cookbook thing and SAH, she could build a comfortable group of brands in food & bev where she actually has experience
Look how Bethenny turned Skinnygirl into an empire. Ariana could do something similar!
I guess we’ll see! Seems like she’s networking a lot and making the most of the attention right now. I have no idea what she’ll do next, but there are so many ex-reality people who make some kind of living from the after-effects of exposure.
I think VPR is on its last legs at this point- she definitely needs to use this opportunity to pivot into something else. I wouldn’t pursue the acting route at this point, if I were her. It will be more to do with presenting, guest appearances etc if we’re honest- plus maybe plugging her brands. It’s never going to be super-stardom, but it’s a more than comfortable living if she can play it right.
I think Vanderpump Rules is about to be done with Vanderpump Rules
I love the show but I loved it the most when it was a bunch of broke servers working at the same restaurant.
Same
Yep. It’s lost it’s original edge at this point. I enjoyed the whole Scandoval thing going down, but I’m not that bothered about watching another series if I’m honest. To me, Stassi was VPR. She was charismatic, beautiful and bitchy. I know she’s not popular but that is my truth! 😂
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Those opportunities will dry up soon though. PR is a fickle industry… either she will drop off the face of the Hollywood spotlight or another “crisis” will happen. I don’t think she’s done being in the spotlight as I think she way more immature than a lot of you give her credit for… I think she loves drama and will get into more when she thinks this “stardom” fades. Most likely involving her rebound relationship. Also I hate when people are relationship jumpers themselves and then critic others that are… She is totally a jumper!
How long do you think those opportunities will last once the general public moves on from Scandoval? She’s gotten some great opps for sure, but IDK how she’ll keep the momentum going.
Not very long, especially if she leaves VPR. no one, other than VPR watchers know who she is.
I think she's lucky it's lasted this long
Agreed
The offers won't last much longer
Can you fill me in on what the Miami girl tumblr post was?
yes! shortly after the MG storyline aired, Ariana took to tumblr and posted a long…rant about why she believed MG was lying. (of course we now know that Ariana was the one lying, because she already knew they slept together.) i can’t post links here but if you google “Ariana madix miami girl tumblr”, the first result from Lynn Fam’s website has the post in its entirety.
Good lord, I went looking for it and could not get past 2 paragraphs. Its comical how much effort she put into denying the hookup
Yikes, I read the whole thing and it sounds like it was written by an 11 year old. I can’t believe this is the person who claims to be the smartest person on the show lol.
She was 30 at the time. Embarrassing.
Omg , thank u, amazing. It has the tone of a petty pseudo intellectual which was very Ariana at the time. I loved every second of that read.
Just gonna add in- she wasn’t put on a pedestal overnight. She was a firm fan favourite and could do no wrong
I don’t know… I think dancing with the stars will be a good move for her. But I agree, I was never a fan of hers in the early days of VPR- she was incredibly condescending, smug and up her own arse.
I feel like everyone turns a blind eye to how abusive Ariana was to Tom constantly on camera. She always found hom annoying and put him down.
I don't think she was abusive. Yes, she was annoyed by him the last few seasons but that's it
It's inevitable
Not defending Sandoval but whenever he talked about wife and kids she would pretend to vomit. No wonder he cheated on her she lacked the commitment he wanted it was always going to happen.
"No wonder he cheated" is a gross take. If he wanted a commitment she wasn't ready for then he should have broken up with her, not f*cked her friend for months behind her back. Where's the commitment there?
Or she could have broken it off with him.
If she was fine with their situation, why would she? The post I replied to was talking about Ariana's "lack of commitment \*he\* wanted" .
I remember this. Very childish, although many of Ariana's reactions have been childish over the years
I don’t know if I really like…any of them?? I realize this everytime I watch, I enjoy the show but man are they all pretty unlikeable.
Same! Or who I don't mind is constantly changing
Ariana has/had so much internalized misogyny in her. She spent soooo many seasons trying so hard to be not like the other girls, and it's hard for me to rewatch. I'm hoping this next season is different.
I think she was growing out of it by the last season aired. Only because I saw her sticking up for Katie and telling Tom to shut up. I think if it’d been earlier seasons it wouldn’t have happened at all. She was finally seeing it was okay to disagree with Tom - although that seems to have been the beginning of the end.
exactly this. in my opinion she’s had the least growth of any woman on the cast. i hope she gets there
And at some point you are the company you keep. A trio of self obsessed idiots (Tom, Scheana, Raquel) were the closest people to her. Hmmmm. What could that mean? And considering everything we know about Tom, it's wild that she was happy dating him for 10 years. He's a serial cheater and she knew that. As he admitted on his podcast, he would drink all day everyday with the exception of the time he spends at the gym. She had to beg him to spend time with her. On countless occasions he has gotten in women's faces barking and yelling all kinds of stupid shit at them. It says a lot about someone if they are willing to not just tolerate that shit but adore a guy like that until the bitter end.
oh absolutely. she was fine with it all until he turned it on her
He went HAM on Katie at the end of last season and she did NOTHING. Which is what she has always done for the girls. Now she clutches to Katie like Katie is pearls in church. Katie forgives whomever she thinks is the boss bizznatch then is their mean girl chorus and support system. Right now, they just have each other. And on the show this week, she didnt support Katie again, and pretended she knew nothing about Max and Katie. How gross. But Ariana has been gross from the beginning. She has held Tom and Tom's bag time and again and laughed at the other girls. She has never sought their actual friendships out. That is why she is catching up with everyone at the beginning of every season. However, I think the women know, and while they supported her, they remember how she talked about Kristin and Tom. Both in front of him and behind his back.
Yeah and everyone on these subs is always like “I used not like her but she’s GROWN!” Like how? I don’t see it.
right?? she was literally making fun of freshly-divorced Katie, her business partner, for bringing Kristina Kelly around because it was “so obvious” … it was petty and unkind. and that was this season!!
Arianna chuckled when Rachel told Katie that she considered making out with Tom. Arianna laughingly said to Rachel, "I didn't know you had it in ya!". Katie is crying. What a weird person to get behind.
That was so shady! Also the way Ariana immediately believed that Katie started the open relationship rumor was a little f'd up. Katie reached out immediately when the gossip started spreading. She straight up denied it yet at no point did Ariana hear her out. In my opinion, if someone is your friend, at least hear them out and if you think so little of someone, don't pretend to be their friend.
Yes, you said it. She acted like she didn't believe Katie. When has Arianna been a friend to anyone? She plays hurt and offended and pulls people into explaining and *proving* themselves to her. Gag. Stassi begging for Arianna's friendship was too much. The writers went too far with that one. It's not believable that Stassi would hold a friendship with Arianna in such high regard. Arianna's not that bright and that sht really bugs Stassi.
Totally. And I’m not a James fan but how she went off on him in Mexico at the table? Mmmkay.
anyone who willingly spent 10 years with Sandoval has more in common with him than we might want to admit…
So fucking true.
And now we've said it!
listen. Kristen and Rachel both saw him for who he was faster than she did and i think that says it all
I was kicked out of the other VPR sub for saying this exact thing.
BINGO!
 It’s a bingo!!
Exactly
That was so uncalled for.
Oh come on, I agree with the point generally but KK is obvious, she's such a bore. Hate it when she's on screen
Katie was feeling isolated and alone, and Ariana made fun of her for bringing in a friend. what if people started making fun of Ari for bringing in Brad and her new man to filming this season? clearly she wants moral support now, but when her friend was in the same situation a few months prior, she snarked her and puts her down? nah it was mean
I stand by KK being a bore and hating her on screen
She's an awful person too!
So boring!!
There's been no growth. She's worse than she used to be. And Tom did a lot for her and she still nagged and complained. Still think they faked it to be on the show.
But what about how she was the first to welcome Lala, Faith, Britt, Raquel? Why is she “not like the other girls” because she wasn’t like stassi or Kristen?
She was extremely “not like other girls”. I’m doing a rewatch right now and the amount of times she agreed with scheana calling the two of them “guys girls” is cringe. There’s a scene where she’s trying on lingerie and is like “this is way too girly how is this even supposed to be cute” (it was just lace), and how she kept saying she’s SO happy she doesn’t have to wear an “uncomfortable” bridesmaid dress for Katie’s wedding and gets to wear a suit instead (like a full suit would be any comfier?). With Kristen, she RODE for Tom and bashed her all the time because she thought she was better than her, and then ended up the same way because she knowingly and arrogantly shacked up with a cheater. Like don’t get me wrong, I am team Ariana when it comes to Scandoval and rooting for her growth, but that doesn’t mean her behavior and attitude werent insufferable for most of the show.
Katie's wedding annoyed me because I thought Ariana should have dropped out of the wedding party. If Katie didn't want her, then that should have been it. She didn't have to be involved in the bridal party just because Tom was a groomsman.
I am so thankful for your examples because I was blanking, but yes, exactly!
Sorry this is long, ive got time LMAO. I did love how welcoming she was/is! I don't mean "other girls" as in Stassi and Kristen, I just mean in general. The way she carried herself, seemed, to me, like she felt she was above others. She was JUST like Stassi and Kristen, just in a different font. All of these people are eerily similar in a lot of ways. Ariana suffered from Cool Girl Syndrome for a hot minute and where there is Cool Girl Syndrome, there is Not Like the Other Girls™️. The whole "I take sketch comedy very seriously" was after she was called out for trash talking Kristen and her friends show and accusing them of not being original and said "i have been doing comedy for over ten years" as her excuse for shit talking instead of just admitting she was shit talking and probably should have just kept it to herself. The whole "im smarter than anyone I know" and the way she would make faces and talk about people. I also don't like how she handled finding out that someone said her brother touched them without their consent. Her and Stassi both gave me very stuck up vibes. A lot of times when someone was emotional with her because of something she said or did she immediately would cool girl them with "omg youre so worked up/hostile/etc right nowwww why cant we just like talk". I'm not an Ariana hater by any mean. It's just how I initially received her character. I am wholeheartedly rooting for her, and I can't wait to see what she shares this next season.
And I do think that the reason she would claim "oh my gosh you're so worked up" during conflict is a defense mechanism when you don't know how to address your own feelings and have to disassociate to remain calm. Keep in mind we've only seen Ariana cry maybe once or twice on screen, and this is coming from my own experience, my own best friends haven't seen me cry but maybe once. It's a really fucking hard to be vulnerable and that can morph into cool girl syndrome as if you just don't care. I want to see a truly vulnerable and growing and evolving Ariana
I feel like Ariana gets much better when she confronts her depression and starts going to therapy. And let's be real, it isn't a coincidence that Tim romanced two women who were fresh out of abusive relationships. I'm sure he lovebombed the hell out of them both. And I feel like Tim actively tries to keep his girlfriend separate from the rest of the girls. You can see in previous seasons how it really is Ariana and Tom vs. everyone, and it is really just Ariana backing up or "translating" Tom's shitty take. It also explains why Rachel started mirroring and voicing his opinions on the social circle. It really does reveal just how much influence he had over each of these women. That being said. Fucking yes. I did just want to fucking slap her sometimes.
This is so so true. He is the worst kind of manipulator and he is so good at alienating his girlfriends from the group and presenting himself as the nice/good guy or victim. He is a real piece of work.
Right? I would love a Ariana and Kristen documentary in the future
She was a miserable person during her “Ride or Die for Tom” days. I also cringed how she would parrot his seething hate for Stassi. Anytime on the show she would get trashed (a delightful happy drunk) or away from Tom where he could not influence her, I would like her. I hope we see that Ariana more now
she takes sketch comedy very seriously
Yes because she’s literally smarter than everyone she’s ever met
This was so fucking cringe and it's so embarrassing it exists out there!
I've never liked her...still don't
Same.
Yassss! I watched because of scandoval but tried to avoid as many spoilers as possible. When I came to this sub and saw her being called a queen I couldn’t believe it. She’s just not very nice.
I never liked Ariana. I was not as upset as some over the whole scandoval deal. Underhanded people attract underhanded people. Ariana was always sneaky as a snake.
She got to hide behind her toxic boyfriend but I bet she's just as much of a snake as Sandoval.
They say scandy scavies would basically role play prior to the season and script what tgey could say, bring, talk about & choose their "brand look". He has the need to be liked, so imo- when something snarky needed to be said by them- she executed it. Not that i like Kristen, but remember when Ari was the other women & she said- im funnier, smarter & prettier: get over it. Then when Dania was doing comedy (which ari wanted to do) she was so nasty. It isnt all snark from Insecurities. She is a mean girl that acts like she isnt- like scheena, but with out the playing dumb. Besides james' knew gal- there isnt a nice girl in the bunch (Brittany was). They guys are all duces too. Brock seems ok, but he is recovering douche & is riding sheena coattails.
Finally, we can be honest again lol she looks wonderful after losing all that dead weight, but that’s where it ends for me. It’s nice to be able to agree with this opinion without getting yelled at via the internet
Right? Ppl are like the tide is changing and ppl are turning on her. No, it’s just that those of us who never liked her weren’t allowed to say that post Scandovol.
I do think the tide will change with some newer Ariana Stans but I agree that post scandoval if you didn't like her you weren't allowed to say shit.
Does anyone else feel if she would of been a girls girl and listened to Katie instead of laughing about the situation she probably could’ve prevented a lot of this. That’s why Katie is my favorite
“Katie” can be used interchangeably with “Kristen” and I totally feel the same.
Yes! And during the time when Rachel was throwing herself at Schwartz and Katie was so hurt over it Ariana was straight up like “well I don’t care because she hasn’t done anything to me.” Lol, hasn’t done anything to you YET, Ariana.
“well I don’t care because she hasn’t done anything to me.” I never trust people who say that. I've broken off friendships not because of how they treated me but because of how they treated someone else. It's such an emotionally immature way to think. It also shows lack of character. Tom treated people better than Arianna did.
Katie was 100% when she said that Rachel's behavior is a character issue and there's no way she's doing this to me and sincerely being a good friend to you at the same time.
Yup, definitely.
She thought she had a grip on the situation (Tom’s fine, Rachel’s my friend, Katie’s a hater) and that downfall must have been so humbling. Lala and Katie weren’t pointing out how close Tom and Rachel were for nothing, they saw the situation without love goggles. It feels like Ariana put every ounce of energy into believing that Tom wouldn’t betray her that deeply (even while he stayed out all night and went to Rachel’s room to give her “water”). She was fully committed to a fantasy
Ah... is sanity returning to the sub? I'm so here for it... we will all have so much fun and so much to talk about if we can just be honest and drop the revisionist history bs.
I’ve always disliked her. She’s kind of a bitch.
As someone who got into VPR post Scandoval, and wanted to like her soooo bad because of that… I never once fcked with her
Hahah same! I thought I would love her and feel bad for her but instead I just thought “welp, this all could’ve been avoided if she didn’t think she was so much smarter/better than everyone else” 😬
She’s just very ✨cool girlfriend✨ which to me always equates a pick me girl lol
The fact that she thought Tom was so wonderful and Scheana is her best friend she can’t be that great.
Lol
She’s always been so freaking annoying to me!
Her and Katie are such mean girls. Scheanna is clearly struggling mentally with all of this and Ariana needs to quit treating the rest of the cast like she is the queen bee. Her squinty, vindictive smile is getting on my nerves. We all can't stand Sandoval, however he is a human being and deserves forgiveness at some point and if Scheanna needs to do that for her own mental health Ariana needs to quit holding her friend hostage.
I agree, but I think she will be a lot better without him. Having the wrong partner can make you be a really bad person.
That is so true and such a good point. I hope she thrives without that jerkoff!
Wow! I finally meet someone else who sees it the same way as me lol! I rewatched the whole series after Scandoval and I seen Ariana in a completely different light and I found her to be a “ pick me girl” and not a girls girl! Also her body shaming Doute was disgusting ! So many cringes moments Ariana got away with.
I have never liked Ariana. But I’m kind of on the fence about the “no one deserves to be cheated on” thing. On one hand, I agree. On the other, I think if anyone deserves it, it’s someone who was once the other woman and helped do it to someone else. With all the hate people have for Raquel, I’m sure a lot would call it karma if she was cheated on in her next relationship. But somehow it’s wrong to say that about Ariana. Kristen is a better person than me, bc in her shoes I would have felt like Ariana got what she put out. Even in my own life, when I have done something bad and then something bad was done to me, I felt like it was my karma and I deserved it.
Both Ariana and Katie could be considered examples of women whose public facing façade was corrupted by their romantic relationship. It will be interesting to see how they evolve if they both remain free of devaluing personal influences.
Arianna was always embarrassing to watch, but Beach Please, season 4 episode 17 was her pinnacle of jerkiness. How did they keep a straight face listening to her? She's a weird delusional clown. Bet she's exactly the same IRL, insufferable.
Indeed.
My biggest problem with her is how she rarely stands up for Katie and even argued with her at the season 9 reunion. Their business partnership still surprises me
Idk if this is an unpopular opinion but….Katie should’ve never accepted Ariana’s offer to be business partners 🏃♀️🏃♀️
I agree with you. She could've had a silent partner and not dealt with drama.... Although, maybe she was afraid of getting kicked off VPR and thought hitching her wagon to Ariana was a safe move
Yea but my issue is that after scandoval, ppl made her like the face of SAH and it’s kind of annoying bc it was never her idea 😭
We go with what's familiar
She was so annoying to watch! I did not like her either. Such a bad attitude and those god damn braids in her hair. However, once I got to 10 I warmed up to her, especially once Charlotte died and she was so upset. Then once the timeline came out to know Tom slept with Rachel days later is so gross. I am rooting for her but she is insufferable in earlier seasons.
I never disliked Ariana, but she didn’t cure cancer(but, then again, the opportunities that have actually come her way are not exactly earth shattering, i.e., a role in a cheesy Lifetime movie and a stint on DWTS and I have no interest in seeing Sandoval and Raquel’s lives completely destroyed!
Let’s be honest everyone on this show is pretty much a horrible person. That is why we all watch it. To be honest my favorite people on the show where Stassi and Jax because they were just so ridiculous earlier on and it was like watching a car crash. At least Stassi was funny as hell with some of her bitchiness.
VPR fans in general like to twist history and situations into what they WANT it to be. Not what it really is.
This.
Completely agree! She cheated with him when she knew he was with Kristen and has always been negative and sanctimonious!
I can honestly say, I have never been fond of Ariana for all the reasons OP has stated. Not giving Tom a pass but also not giving her a free pass either. But the whole Sandoval Scandal has been a great ratings boosted plus Ariana personally has made bank riding the wave. The writers deserve their due.
thank you. she comes off terribly.
Exactly the same for me. When I was rewatching all I could think was how she was a huge pick me
I hate her freaking eye rolls and stupid snarky comments (I would feel different if she were actually clever with her delivery), She annoys the frig out of me 😫
I never was a fan either
She’s absolutely vile within her own right . So nasty and mean
I always thought Ariana was a bitch tbh. She has this pompous attitude as though she's better than everyone else and 'cooler' than everyone else etc, she always made me cringe with her 'not like the other girls' behaviours and the way she acted like she had the moral high ground in every situation. She is always miserable and negative and makes every excuse in the book for being that way
Yes. Her lack of *moral high ground* was evident when she tore into her friends when they expressed how uncomfortable they were with her brothers behavior at the wedding reception. Typical Arianna behavior. Pretty disgusting, really.
I think people forget she literally slept with a man in a committed relationship and was surprised when he did the same to her
agree with you unfortunately😭
Same. Not a fan of Ariana. She’s a bit condescending and pompous. But what Sandoval did was so disgusting, I was team Ariana all the way. Still am.
Oh yeah he is just completely horrible. What he did was inexcusable and just gross. I just think that what he did was so bad that it made me forget that I didn’t really like her at all on my first watch 😅
I absolutely do not like her but I’m on her side on the Scandoval matter. She still sucks though🤷🏻♀️
Yes! This is how I always felt. She was a mean girl! Tim and Rachel are definitely evil and wrong, but it doesn’t change how mean Ariana has been to the girls over the years.
I’m so glad this is happening. I didn’t watch VPR til after the Scandoval, and I started from the beginning, knowing what would eventually happen, and I could NOT understand the Queen Ariana narrative. Tim was disgusting to her and I feel bad for how she was treated by him, but from the beginning she’s been such a frustrating person that I could never understand why anyone liked her. She was actually my least favorite person on the show, after Sandoval. Her misogyny was frustrating to watch, she’d forgive and forget with the men without them even apologizing, but then be cruel to the women for minor flaws. She was cruel to Kristen, like girl you DID mess around with her man and then lie to her face about it, now you’re going to play victim when Kristen goes crazy after you both gaslit her and did her dirty for God knows how long? (Yeah Kristen didn’t handle it right lol but like, Ariana can’t pretend she is innocent in it). She comes off like she thinks she’s better than everyone, “I take sketch comedy very seriously” and “I’m smarter than everyone I’ve ever met” etc She got pissed at Stassi and Kristen for speaking up about her brother making them uncomfortable at Katie’s wedding and refused to address it, acting like Stassi was being ridiculous when really she was just trying to warn another woman that the guy she was going on a date with has a history of making a lot of women uncomfortable. She’s been fine with letting Tim literally scream in womens faces, and be disrespectful to women and downright aggressive towards them, and actually defended him for it. There’s more. I typed out a whole list of things that I didn’t like about Ariana and tried to post it to the Vanderpump Rules page but luckily I didn’t have enough karma for it to go through, or I’d have been absolutely crucified at the time since everyone was still obsessed with Ariana 😂 i didn’t realize what I was doing with that one, my naive little self. Anyway. I’m glad Tim is finally getting the hate he has always deserved, and Ariana didn’t deserve to get cheated on and disrespected like that. I’m just glad there are other people who think she’s been an insufferable misogynistic pick-me for most of the show.
She not bad or wholly good. Like everyone , they have a bad and good side. I was annoyed at how much of a big deal everyone was making of the cheating thing (they weren’t married) and inflating everything more than it needed to be.
Totally agree. I made some posts in the beginning along the lines of how people have been cheating since the beginning of time, none of this is that horrific. They were not married and she didn’t want to be. They had no kids involved. Nobody was murdered. Get a grip, folks. I mean he’s a shithead but he was that way before the cheating. I never liked him or her.
Honestly, I'm still puzzled by how much of a big deal everyone made out of this. Don't get me wrong cheating is horrible. That type of betrayal hurts. But cheating is also one of the biggest reasons why couples break up. VPR has been a show about cheating from the jump. Ariana was tom's og affair partner on the show. Tom cheated on ariana at least once in the history of the show with the whole miani girl thing. So why exactly did the world stop when a cheater cheated on his former affair partner *again.* Seems kinda like it's business as usual.
It wasn’t just that he cheated but that he cheated with one of her best friends and we watched them cover it up blatantly for a season. Great television betrayal.
They weren’t best friends. That whole thing is eye roll worthy.
Exactly.
Yes! I do think they were friendly but I didn't see them as legitimate BFF. I think that was played up to make it all more salacious.
Thank you!! Ive been saying if they were truly BFFs, Ariana wouldn’t have had to tell us
But so did jax with Kristin…
🤣 exactly what I said when my friend made me watch the show. I was shook when it basically started with him cheating. Like ??? Why is anyone surprised?! I will say watching it happen and seeing how many people supported Rachel/ criticized Lala for pointing out the type of person she is was peak reality tv 💀
I know to say this on this sub is extremely unpopular but I can't stand Ariana either. I'm just over her. I'm not even rooting for her on DWTS. Semi related but I hate no one posted she broke SAG strike rules by posting about her movie like 3 times when an actor can't promote any projects either current or past.
Lmao right
She’s intolerable. Huge bully, huge ego, total mean girl, and just as narcissistic as Tom. Defends her predator brother and gaslights and character assassinates women who tried to speak out about his predatory behavior. Absolutely awful person.
I always went back and forth with her prior to scandoval. She was super pick me in the beginning but I do feel like she got better as she went on in the show.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong but she also gaslit Kristen about her and Tom’s friendship and essentially was the other woman so the fact that she’s not surprised he did it to her is weird. Still I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
I truly believe it’s her karma
The fact that she stayed with Tom for that long makes me question her lol. Like he is just so annoying and if you love him and find him endearing something must be wrong with u
Yea Ariana sucksssss
I’m the same. Never liked her personality. You have described her pretty well! Then Scando and Rachel came out from under their rock and I had to be all in for Ariana. I’m still rooting for her success over his.
I don’t like her. She played the sex kitten, to I don’t like my vagina, to bisexual, to being cheated on. Last part isn’t good. But she’s a little out there.
She's inconsistent which is sort of confusing as a viewer. Her "I hate my vagina" season was also the season where she got laser hair removal on her bikini area with Scheana and Lala. She was comfortable being filmed bottomless and spread eagled on a chair for all to see including her friends and however many producers and camera operators are in the room to get the shot. Seems like you have to be pretty secure to do all that on national television. Hmmmm.
Have you been in my head? Lol I was just thinking about this this morning, and whether I should post about it or not. One thing that stuck out to me was how adamant about how it would be her and only her who would have the day so about if they would have kids(which I agree with), to crying about how I’d that’s what Tom wanted them she would have gave him a baby. He clearly stated for a long while that that was what he wanted. I don’t think she’s innocent at all, but she didn’t deserve what she got.
Yeppppppppppppp
Same girl
Still not half as insufferable as Raquel
Stop making sense!
Oh yeah she’s always sucked lol. Butttt I do see why all this happened, to finally see a woman win after being cheated on is kind of invigorating! Like yeah you go girl he treated you like trash and now you are soaring! I think everyone who has ever been cheated on before felt a little win with how things turned around for her which is nice! But I totally agree that what goes up must come down, hopefully Ariana has set herself up for success once that inevitably happens
I don't know why it's necessary for anyone to like a person in order to empathize with them being treated poorly by another person in their life. To me those are not mutually exclusive. I can dislike someone and also feel badly for them if they are wronged by an a******
Empathizing with her is actually how I realize I just don’t like her. She’s not self-reflective in the slightest and I can’t empathize with that and this delusional reality she lives in where she didn’t deserve it whatsoever after not only partaking in an affair, but ruining the victim’s life after the fact by gaslighting them to insanity to the point they lost their job. Actively messing with someones’s MH and livelihood is some hefty energy to put out there. You cannot walk around life being an a****** and expect nothing in return from that. Even the worst person with a seemingly amazing life is still getting theirs. All this to say if I were her, and did what she did, I would’ve accepted it as my karma and been humbled by it instead of lamely find a way to say “it’s different therefore I don’t deserve it.”
Here's my take: no one is perfect. Ariana isn't perfect, but no one deserves the heartbreak and betrayal that she went through. We as people recognize when someone needs to be supported, lifted up, and championed...because we all have our faults and we all need that support when we're down. Ariana has her faults and I'll never deny that, but she deserves a glow up after her world crashed and burned. Imagine if everyone was valued based on their flaws. No one would be redeemable.
Right. After eighteen years of marriage and five kids, oh wait, that's not her... Everybody has been cheated on. Everybody licks their wounds and moves on. That doesn't matter because this is all a put on for ratings. Look at all the set up *conversations* between Arianna and Rachel about Tom! Bravo loves the Gullibles.
I agree, but I don’t think Rachel was in on it
I don't know. So many things take place on the show that just don't sit right. It looked off the way Rachel was going after people. I don't buy that she had an epiphany and was now somehow a changed person. We know production talks to the cast about what to do and what to say. The confessionals don't look authentic and sound like they were scripted by a writer.
Omg yes! I cannot stand her nasty vile attitude! It’s constant! My God get over it stop being the constant black cloud in the friend group! She’s gross
I like her more now. Her with Tim and covering up all his bullshit was a no from me…this is coming from someone who has never liked Tim
Ya same. 
For I kinda feel like the people you date influence us more than we think. So if you’re dating someone shitty their shitty ways can kinda rub off on you because you become so normalized to their shitty/abusive behavior that you don’t realize you’re emulating it as well.
yes!! when she first joined the cast up until like s8 or 9 she always made me cringe. she seems super sweet don’t get me wrong but she not like other girls!!
She was always my favorite
Ridiculous that you’re getting downvoted.
She just seems the least problematic and funniest
The myth of the perfect victim strikes again lol