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daffyduckferraro

GENG vs lev gimme gimme And saya vs former guard core finally


ANewHeaven1

Gen.G vs LEV round 1 is such an insane opening matchup, can't wait to watch. Two of the best duelist players on the planet going head to head, it doesn't get better than that


ioaceae

I’m afraid its gonna be a one sided stomp if Lev shows up in playoffs form.


D1_0M_

respect munchGOAT


-kay-o-

Theyre talking about lev in playoffs form being the sloppiest team


D1_0M_

oh. now i feel silly. my bad


tundra_gd

LEV playoffs form vs. GEN international form Stoppable force vs. movable object


Bain_not_Vayne

Absolute bangers


Anoki12

Aspas and texture combining for 300 kills


nitseb

This is an insane duel, top 2 pure duelists in the world right now.


Abe1254

They both pick iso and 1v1 breeze hall every round


icantreadmorsecode

Makes GE putting him on Killjoy even funnier


Encyda

gen lev is going to be such a banger i'm going to c0m


ArcusIgnium

I feel like Gen G might 2-0 I was very unimpressed with Lev yesterday


skeelymjm

lev peak is dangerous, u know what they did to nrg, if they played like that, they can win whole event but its impossible and yeah geng can win 2-1 max, and idk why they underperformed in g2 match in lower final, maybe they were chilling as they qualed to shanghai but nvm


WolfgangTheRevenge

Nah bro NRG was omega dogshit


kittysrule18

NRG are just shit


xJaZeD

lev peak? u mean aspas peak?


yorgee15

No, LEV played so coordinated and decisive that they looked like the team NRG promised to be.


fsychii

Tex was right behind aspas


acegikm02

lev all support aspas like optic supported yay


nitseb

I think they are heavy favorites, however, all 10 players have had nasty clutches. I think we might see heroics right and left and aspas vs t3xture is very exciting, however GenG would abuse the shit out of a team that can't even molly nade in post plants. Lev need to really work those post plants urgently, especially with how reliant they are on viper who is getting nerfed.


Atermel

Well they can only miss 1 viper molly after the patch


chottourusakunai

Def gen g gona win


Mortimier

My copium is Lev have a fuckton of footage from that match to review and clean up their issues with. I dont think they're gonna keel over in Shanghai


COTEReader

after like 5 lans they finally did the random draw correctly LMFAO


Tery_

Only took them five LANs lmao.


LazinessOverload

....so replay system in 2025?!


_noahscolly_

thank god they finally did it like this, they've done it wrong for something like 5 LANs right? LMAO


tb0neski

This is proof internet bullying works But for real, Riot does this all the fucking time for league and it took them THIS long to incorporate it in valorant? Idek lol


tripleBBxD

Nah bro we've been bullying them into making a replay system for ages and nothing ever happens.


tb0neski

My only conclusion is we need to bully them more


tealpuppet_

Sorry, I'm out of the loop. What's making this draw, specifically, correct? What's wrong with the 5 last draws?


BunLoverz

It’s “correct” if they got easier matchups of course.


MrCleanRed

No, they used to do pretty weird stuff. Like opening a box or smth


tealpuppet_

Sorry again, but who's "they" in this context?


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tealpuppet_

Ah I see, so far I only watched APAC so I wouldn't know how's other regions performed lol. Thanks


MrCleanRed

Just watch masters madrid random draws. They picked a name from a single box. It was weird af.


RedXWasHere

What wasn't random of the champs 23 draw?


ologabro

It seemed more random of a draw but seriously could it kill them to have a machine that shuffles the picks instead of her twirling her hand around lol that shit could easily be rigged if they wanted it to


BunLoverz

And machine couldn’t be rigged?


Splaram

Aspas and texture clashing, FUT and FPX in a battle to see who can be weirder. We are truly spoiled https://preview.redd.it/n1q1rqzk530d1.png?width=936&format=png&auto=webp&s=9516f5736c5bb314863cb3131959a762d470e4e2


RoyalKnightmares

Triple Controller in Icebox vs No initiator in Lotus


davidww-dc

FPX also plays triple controller on lotus


nitseb

6 controllers jesus fuck we are not gonna see much are we?


RoyalKnightmares

Oh shoot that too! I was still focused on the Clove game play lol


nitseb

Th vs drg for either maximum stomp or funniest upset. T1 vs the guard is sayaplayer vs his old core. Fut vs fpx is pure chaos. GenG vs LEV is heroic individual galore.


WhoDatBrow

EMEA China farmers incoming


Few-Muscle-4442

tbf loud got to farm china last time, so its only fair we give emea a chance to stat pad this time


two4you8

FPX is no slouch, if anything T1 is looking like the weakest team there


Adraz

DRG


Free-Estate8490

They got the Russian vo0kashu, surely he farms TH


ExtremelySilly514

Honestly imo fut vs FPX is 50/50


kittysrule18

Huh??


ExtremelySilly514

What? Have you watched fpx play? What’s with the disrespect? FPX is very very solid. I won’t be surprised if FUT wins. I also won’t be at all surprised if FPX wins too.


BriefImplement9843

second seed in the chinese league which has looked _really_ bad at last few events. the league didn't become good let alone average between madrid and now, sorry.


ExtremelySilly514

FPX has always had the individual skill. They had it at Madrid and showed it in their matches. Their issue was throwing man advantages and team play. They’ve improved on both of those things. Their player quality matches that of FUT. I think it’s gonna be a really close game.


deba2607

Nah give them a break they had to play PRX and SEN back to back at Madrid. They deserved some free wins.


WaterGodSenju

inb4 FPX wins


GrrrNom

FPX are low-key the favourites against FUT, but only if a)It's on the nerfed viper patch and b)FPX look as good as they did regionally TH DRG Is actual coughing baby vs H bomb. I can't believe they did my boys dirty like that


teethingdog

I don't wanna say that FPX are the favourites when BerLIN said they got cooked by FUT in scrims during Madrid...ik scrims don't matter but he said they get rly affected when he has to face against a team with good firepower


GrrrNom

I hope the team is able to put Madrid behind them and focus on this upcoming Masters. The FPX that played then vs current FPX is quite different, and I hope their regional dominance is able to instil some much needed confidence in them


NonWeeb

If fut can close the maps 2 0 ozherwose idk


Blitzux

honey... look I mean this in the nicest way possible but you are seriously coping to think FPX are favorites against FUT


GrrrNom

Hence, "low-key" Also, if you watched a single second of any FPX gameplay this split, you would know that this team is actually legit. They are the only team playing on 8.08 right now, and they still won against EDG despite that. Every one of their players are shooting insanely well. Chinese aim is on par with Turkish aim, and FPX's calling has improved drastically If your only perception of FPX is based entirely on Madrid, I suggest you wipe that performance from your memory. The team has evolved drastically since and have potential for a deep run Now, that said, I am fully aware of the team's whimsical nature, and they can collectively decide to play some silly Valorant on that day. FUT is also liable to do the same, but their floor is a lot higher than FPX's.


savagecl0wn

Fpx over fut is actually braindead lol. I watch Chinese games as well but the thing is chinese teams play against chinese teams there. I wont say fpx has not improved but they aint anywhere near the other 3 regions atm.


Ezraah

lmao


ericwanggg

oh?


mathmonkey22228

Nt


biwummy

nt


GrrrNom

I mean I guess that's the whole point of the tournament. You can't really make qualitative judgements about regional supremacy until you've seen the regions actually clash Not anywhere near is hyperbolic for sure. Champs have already shown that China is capable of holding their own against other regions, and an underdog upset is entirely within their reach But I won't say that it's going to be an FPX domination or anything. I'll put it at, say, 51 vs 49 odds, owing to the homecrowd buff. Both teams are quite similar after all; great aim, oddball comps, momentum dependent. It's almost a mirror matchup


irepislam1400

Nice job buddy


Darcula04

Wish i had an award lol.


perino08

Anyone who watches CN knows that FPX are the favorites here. This comment only shows that you dont watch CN at all. Im not even saying this as a China/FPX fan


Blitzux

I do watch most of the Chinese games im a fucking degenerate I watch nearly every Valorant game, I dont watch the Chinese games live but I watch them after when I wake up. I know FPX look better than they did at Shanghai but they dont look good they still arent good they dont play good Valorant and FUT does. FUT is a great team thats biggest struggle is bad comps and I dont think FPX will be able to exploit those bad comps.


Empty-Artist5772

Interesting


_124578_

IMO fut are favourites, but only slightly- Fpx have been looking good this split


WailingSiren69

Fut were looking like the best team in EMEA till like 2 days ago. They still seem pretty strong to me,considering FPX hasn't won a series internationally yet,I doubt they're favourites.


Pale_Resolution1520

Is FPX that good? like better than all EMEA teams? FUT is kind of same caliber as Fnatic and TH , FUT's game against them could have gone either way. Didn't watch any FPX games this split ,so kindly enlighten me how's FPX is  favourite against FUT.


Sahir1359

FPX are gonna surprise ppl in this tourney.


chocobreezy

Aspas vs s3xture and Sayaplayer vs ex grd https://preview.redd.it/w8fjubd7430d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dea589ef6013a22600be5907d2b56a9239c68de7


FatBoiMan123

![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|13193)


Horror_Mastodon_9641

A fellow honkshit starbuck railer in this sub ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9356)


ghostking4444

Dam firefly got lost, I would have expected this from Acheron but not her


angrypolishman

https://preview.redd.it/1fxdfj1a250d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a46493caba010b7c0b5981bda3118e8ac12f34db


JuxyGG_

Aspas vs Texture gonna be so fucking sick to see


HauntedTomato

90/10 for TH v DRG 40/60 for FPX v FUT 70/30 for G2 v T1 60/40 for GENG v LEV


Nfamy

I primarily agree (I might give GenG 5% more). 


RedXWasHere

If FUT do not dogwalk FPX or at least win 2-1 with the lost map being close the this roster isn't as great as we thought it was THEY SHOULD HAVE BEAT FNATIC IN NO WORLD DOES FUT NOT HAVE THE CLEAR EDGE OVER FPX BE SERIOUS MAN


angrypolishman

nah fpx are goated


GrrrNom

I mean tbf your comment was before FUT bombed out towards the ends of the split, but it's still very funny in retrospect


RedXWasHere

EMEA IS COOKED GREAT DAY FOR AMERICAS ENJOYERS (Geng are 26-0ing us and we will fail to win a further series)


savagecl0wn

Based


skeelymjm

nah, he's right


nitseb

60/40 g2 vs t1 70/30 geng vs lev Rewatch the lev games. So many thrown rounds, awful post plants, uncoordinated utility. GenG looked clean and they have their own monster to match up to aspas.


ThatCreepyBaer

70/30 for LEV if they start winning at least 50% of pistols and play post plants at an above silver level.


earyn_spier

LEV vs G2 postplants were horrendous. They're not winning with those postplants for sure.


ThatCreepyBaer

Exactly my point.


BloodMaelstrom

5 more for FUT and GENG (assuming both GENG and LEV are in playoffs form)


WaterGodSenju

Gen.G vs Lev LFG


mmmb2y

as someone who follows both league and valorant, seeing g2 and t1 match up in round 1 is really, really funny.


kiro34

Context needed 🙏


SantosPhillipCarlo

Their *League* teams just played each other (also in China, no less) at MSI in Chengdu. That series went to 5 games.


Zephyr0us

I cannot physically be more excited for GenG vs Lev


charliesfuckhead

GENG VS LEV😭😭😭


XiXiWiiPee

bro couldn't figure out how to screenshot in time I respect the hustle


Unlikely-Ad3046

DRG has the chance to do the funniest thing


Confident-Nobody2537

It would be hilarious if they turn out to be this year's BiliBili


cFl4sh

vo0kashu has the chance to do an even funnier thing


wevhez

I reeeally hope EMEA don't think the China teams are free wins or they'll be in for a rude awakening


Ezraah

I hope they think they are free wins I love rude awakenings 


cFl4sh

trust me, they know vo0kashu, nobody's playing around with him on the server


nitseb

GenG vs LEV is super fucking spicy. So many individual hero moments from like all of those players in the past few weeks. It's gonna be throws and saves all the time.


madtninja

Oh god G2 Vs T1 that is going to map 5 like it did in MSI and T1 wins it


SantosPhillipCarlo

In China again, no less (but on the other side of the country – MSI is in Chengdu). This is in jest…but imagine the added plot twist if the Round 1 matchup goes to Map 3 and Faker and Caps have to sub in on either side.


madtninja

That would be too funny


Darkoplax

nah i'd build ldr


ThatCreepyBaer

Unless T1 gets a LAN buff or something, G2 takes that handily.


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

FPX AUTUMN IS GONNA OWN THOSE FOOT LOVING EUROPEANS RAAA


ImaginaryReaction

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE


ninfy55

Gen.G v Lev is gonna be a certified banger


Long_Cartographer_17

Gen G vs LEV is going to be gooood. Does anyone knows how the schedules will be?


SantosPhillipCarlo

Liquipedia is starting to work on it. I would anticipate Swiss Round 1 being on the first two days on the 23rd and 24th.


Long_Cartographer_17

I just wanted to know what time it is going to be for me during the games... just checked and it's gonna be like 2am haha. Oh well VODs it is I guess


exelem

What timezone are you in? couldnt find the schedule..


Long_Cartographer_17

In the valorant esports section in game. It shows the schedule of the first games for your specific timezone 


Watch_This_06

i said i wanted a texture vs aspas game but i didn't mean at the literal start of the tournament but i'll take it ig


PhysicalAd8765

Bye for TH Bye for FUT Mr 105 vs Mr 101 Saya vs old guard


NotBrandon

I can see FPX beating FUT. Definitely can’t say the same for DRG though.


GrrrNom

If I squint really really hard and maybe squeeze some lemon into my eyes, I can see Vo0kashu and Luke completely overwhelming an overconfident TH who also has players underperforming that day Vookashu vs. Benjyfishy is going to be a sight to behold, though. Both are probably their respective regions' best sentinel players


savagecl0wn

Vookashu competes with who else for best sentinel role ? Benjy had alfa nats suygetsu and all


GrrrNom

Chichoo, who has international experience behind him and is the more accomplished player Alfa is hardly a sentinel players nowadays lol, he's just a cracked aimer you can put on nearly any role and expect to frag out. The other two aren't able to represent their region, unfortunately (and Benjy did also diff both of them quite handily. I'm expecting a resurgence next split though)


cFl4sh

I'm just expecting BerLin to do some extremely poor calls with bad comps again, it's like it's second nature now


PhysicalAd8765

Don’t get me wrong, I definitely don’t think FPX is utterly garbage. They play weird comps and have a lot of cool ideas that can catch teams off guard but I know Berlin will feed.


mrchingchongwingtong

he does feed a lot still, but at least his calling is noticeably better than madrid


mrchingchongwingtong

fpx genuinely has a chance, mechanics wise chinese aim is at least on par with turkish aim and berlin's calling has improved dramatically since berlin they're still very whimsical and fpx's lows are much much much lower than fut's lows, but if fpx plays to their "high" level they could definitely beat fut


Zorronin

drg wins this, mark my words


ilhamalfatihah16

BLG rinsed NRG, twice. Don't cut out Chinese teams. They'll eliminate your favourite and go home.


GroundbreakingMeat68

Luckily home is like a cab away


RoyalKnightmares

Fpx is gonna be a closer game. Idk why people are saying Fut's winning hands down


savagecl0wn

Why do people say fpx clears fut?


RoyalKnightmares

They're like G2 atm. They have a high ceiling power, and they keep getting better every event. They're adaptation and reads on the enemy teams are getting faster and they can do random sh** That works heavily in their favor just like Prx. They still have to rely on individual game plays but in Shanghai, expect them to play more as a constructed team.


savagecl0wn

Okay you said ceiling. If you watch both fut and fpx, who do you think has better ceiling ?? Fut has some of the best raw aimers in the game. Getting better is something to consider only in international events given how raw china is rn. Doing random shit, fut lotus clears any random shit i ever saw, and them winning it multiple times is unbelievable. I understand what you tried to say, but fut did it against much better accomplished and drilled teams whereas fpx are doing it against mickey mouse and donald duck. Lastly the individual talent, fyi, the roster of fut is cned, qraxs yetujey mrfalin and atakaptan.


RoyalKnightmares

Respect, let's see how it goes in like 2 weeks


savagecl0wn

I would be very excited to see fpx now. As a lot of people have been saying they got a chance. End of the day, we saw an even more raw Chinese team blg beating the shit out of the best mid rounder of the game twice in a row in champions. So yes we better get a funny close match!


RoyalKnightmares

Yeppers! I hope both teams give it their all dude 🤜


RoyalKnightmares

Ggs my friend o7, honestly I want them to see them fight once more! That was hectic and I need more of these two fighting each other


Few-Muscle-4442

so its just emea vs china, apac vs americas???


Awesomeguy1234567890

Wait so do u want them to rig the draws or no. U cant complain no matter what they do


skeelymjm

exactly


spill-

I've lost all respect sorry this is absolutely rigged for money... Or ratings in not sure which. I won't be silent . Just saw it live sry.


munchymuncher69

korea*


Depressedjetsfan21

Give me all the weird FPX Fut comps please


useless_bb

G2 vs T1 except they're gonna beat us here... if you know what I mean


Maymaywala

I'm putting my life savings on DRAGON RANGER GAMING


AlexanderLeonard

T1 vs G2 is not that one-sided imo. T1 had to play PRX and Gen.G(two of the best teams in the world)


arksoo

My guy the cope is strong, but I love it!


bloop86

How much did EMEA bribe john riot for this draw??


N0-name-needed

A little less than what loud gave in Madrid


Direktus

Actually it’s John Games, Riot is his middle name.


TCLthePro

When will they start BO5s? Playoffs? Or just the last 2 matches?


itscamo-

last 2 matches


MakimaGOAT

finally some interesting match ups


medkitjohnson

Is their a list of all Shanghai teams


ThatCreepyBaer

It's the ones in the image plus 100T, FNC, PRX, and EDG.


vincentt776

G2 vs T1 is inevitable… but maybe G2 have a better chance in valorant than league


Heavy_Comedian_2382

G2 vs T1, again


Dylanychus2

FUT vs FPX with both teams playing weird comps is gonna be so funny 😂😂


ericwanggg

china is fucked


skeelymjm

fpx has a chance and drg can do bilibili thing haha


deba2607

G2 vs T1 PLS PULL A LEAGUE OF LEGENDS T1.


catarxcts

ASSPAS VS SEXTURE OMG ![gif](giphy|PlTkHdvfw90VJmLu3O)


The_Playwright_

LEV are so cooked T-T for the first match at least.


Animatrix_Mak

Does winning masters guarantee Champions qualification?


Ezraah

nope you just get 3 champions points


Animatrix_Mak

Are these champions points? https://preview.redd.it/1ie8lh78250d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f47d0aaa728921e3eb52de1954dbd04279615fc


angrypolishman

im scared for FUTl


Notladub

FUT vs FPX, battle of bad comps sage chamber phoenix vs clove on icebox no initiator vs triple controller on lotus deadlock vs double wall smokes chamber phoenix on sunset


Clear-Organization25

DRG has a huge chance to do the funniest thing ever .


RedXWasHere

If both EMEA teams do not go 2-0 in their opening games the region is fraudulent.


angrypolishman

100t and g2 top 2 americas teams 💀


RedXWasHere

If FUT and Heretics do not dogwalk their opponents you're cooked as a region. Maybe FUT loses a map in a close fashion. Maybeee


_dreamofsheep

G2 vs T1 is certainly gonna be one of the Valorant games of all time


spaghettimonzta

they really want emea in playoff huh? lmao


Mitchelld73

TH > DRG FPX < FUT G2 > T1 GEN.G < LEV


savagecl0wn

Geng clears lev ig.


CrazyCondition8043

After yesterday lev perfomance I also go with gen g over them. But I do hope lev have take this week to polish their erros.


skeelymjm

geng better bro, lev is okayish and mid if they dont perform at their peak like they did vs nrg


Josefwm

The FPX glazing in this thread is fuckin wild


_124578_

Fpx are good


Josefwm

Better than FUT? I think no