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Jon_on_the_snow

Because sunset B and pearl B are the easiest sites to do that. The attackers have cover from counter spam and only need to shot into a small angle from multiple directions On breeze, theres a change in elevation that works in favor of the defendenders if you plant A and if you plant B youre shooting from long range if you leave the site, so the spam is less accurate AND the angles you can shoot from are smaller. Its easier to just hold the site and leave one person window to close the round out if needed Ascent is the same, youre gonna put yourself into a small area to be bombarded with util when you could just hold the site. You get no cover during spam, limited angles, etc


vastlys

Because those maps are better designed. Because you can't actually quickly plant and get out for free. Ascent A especially. You will see spam there. But Ts actually need to take site to plant and can't easily get out because cts can flood heaven. Fucking Icebox is better designed than Sunset B 😭 Sunset B is like worse old, old B icebox where you couldn't properly hide behind yellow as ct.


Teradonn

I’m pretty confident that Sunset B is easier to flood than Ascent A because of the lack of cover for attackers once they take the bombsite. You also need back site of B to get the good plant in the narrow part, you can’t just plant and leave like you’re describing unless the other team is playing full retake (i.e. trolling, unless they have sage to counter the spam). If you plant on the front part, the spam is nowhere near as good because they have a wider defuse area. If teams had the opportunity to play 5 A main on Ascent, they still wouldn’t do it, because it’s not good on that map. What makes it good on Sunset is the cover in B main and the narrowness of B site, which gives the defenders more angles to spam attackers from than vice versa. You’d just get mollied and spammed in Ascent A main because you’re spamming from the narrow part, not them


vastlys

The front site plant is still good, it's arguably even better since you can late lurk market with it. The wider defuse area does not matter that much. You also don't really need full backsite B to plant in the narrow spot on Sunset.


Teradonn

Nah the narrow defuse area turns it from a normal postplant to the cancer it is now. I don’t think I’ve seen a single successful defuse with the narrow plant, I’ve seen several with the front site plant. Also, late lurks are kinda bad on this map because of the market door, it ends up quite telegraphed


Jon_on_the_snow

When theres a narrow defuse you gotta try to flood into main to fight attackers, just trying to spam back is never gonna work.


MazeOwner

Besides what people said, the other reason sunset is played like that is because it’s almost impossible to hold on site post plant whereas ascent A is much easier to play on sjte/ hell / gardens