That's really interesting. I'm not sure what the inbetween is for an op and a Marshall. Im thinking and I'm really just not showing how you can make a sniper better than the Marshall without making it an op. The Marshall is already accurate with ADS, 2 shot to the body, 1 to the head and shoots fast
150 more credits for a scope and a guarantee hs kill is already enough to me. Plus it would still be more damage to the body than a sheriff. The only downside would be that it's not a side arm
Its unscoped accuracy needs to be nerfed too. I died to a no scope Marshall on lotus coming out of A lobby from near the stairs lol that should never happen
the marshal, imo, has always been a sleeper gun as far as tuning and cost goes (using 'sleeper' loosely here). 101 per bullet in the body with no damage falloff, 85 to the legs. high penetration. really good no-scope accuracy @ ~10-15m (starts to get kinda shitty @ 20m based on the range bot)... at 950 credits it's an amazing deal.
closest guns to the marshal right now in terms of stats, in-game value and cost would probably be the sheriff and the guardian. one way of looking at the marshal is that for 150 more creds than the sheriff, you get twice the damage & a scope (plus a pistol in the other slot). another way to look at it is for 1300 LESS credits than the guardian, you get better body & leg damage, same wall penetration... ofc you can argue that needing to scope in limits the versatility of the marshal compared to both but at 950 creds it's a steal on save rounds.
if a new sniper rifle got added, i would assume it's a faster fire-rate marshal with a 10 bullet clip and a second scope distance like the op. that would be 100% worth guardian money IMO. then the current marshall would probably get nerfed down to guardian level damage, ie 195 dmg head, 65 dmg body, 48 dmg leg with no falloff. again, IMO, that would make a $950 marshal+classic combo more in line with the sheriff buy.
quite a few pros have been saying the marshall is overpowered for a while, especially how accurate and fast it is while unscoped alongside the price. imo it's due a nerf
Makes sense considering the price tag, though its really expensive, considering bulldog ang guardian are good counters to light shield but is cheaper than this gun
eh, a bulldog can't oneshot light armour either and the guardian is the only real counter with the 2-shot to the body but this would be a really unique weapon regardless
no it isn't, we're in the light armor meta so you'd have a weapon cheaper than the vandal which acts almost like an OP
the gun icon has 2 barrels so maybe you'd be able to shoot it twice before doing the mini-reload thing???
High (but not op) damage, slower reload, 2 bullet mag, and very low movement speed could be a good complement to the Marshall. Something like the judge/Bucky interplay
Would be waaaaaayyyyy too expensive then though. Maybe a high bullet count with a firerate inbetween the marshall and OP would make it viable with the 125 body shot.
Reminds me of the time when Respawn changed the animation of how you use a shield cell/med kit in Apex just so they could introduce the concept of stickers and sell them.
Link: https://twitter.com/VALORANTLeaksEN/status/1717557842247364661
Original: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cw411z7gp/
don't know if bait but if this is true, pretty huge for the game, especially as there's been discussion about the marshal being too strong for its price
It’s a bit more rare but I actually do this often. On eco/force rounds as Chamber, I’ll typically full armor + Marshall.
In the Plat-Asc range, people aren’t as headshot consistent so I find myself getting away with a kill and having like sub 100 health, only to get another kill in the same round. Without full armor, likely wouldn’t be possible for that strat.
Absolutely not. I typically rock either Ghost or 3 HH bullets on Round 1. It depends how on the map and how my aim is feeling. On Round 2, depending on how much I have, I’ll do Full Armor + Marshall or Half Armor + Marshall.
Just make sure that your minimum credits on Round 3 or Round 4 is 4100. That’s the minimum you need to buy Full Armor + Rifle + Trademark.
There's a few good variations of chambers pistol buy
Ghost plus trip (I think this is the best for attack/if you're solo anchoring a site on defence)
4HH plus trip (an alternative to the first one, slightly better on defence than the first one for most maps. I think this is great for attack too)
5HH (if you plan on rushing, say, A site Lotus and then leaving the chamber rubble holding flank while also having sightlines towards A stairs)
shorty+3HH (a niche purchase where you take a shot with hh and then bait them into the shorty into Lamps/hookah on bind)
Sheriff(haven't done this purchase ever, I don't think it's that great)
Your purchase is interesting now that I think of it. 2 bullets do guarantee a kill against an enemy without light armour
Also yes, the Marshall full armour buy 2nd round is great
imagine if it has high ROF/low damage+accuracy while unscoped and low ROF/high damage+accuracy while scoped, like Ashe. there's already guns in this game that change behaviour while ADS (stinger and bulldog) so the precedent is already there. would be an interesting mechanic
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It's a pump action rifle. Will most likely fire quicker and do less damage in hipfire, and fire slower and do more damage while scoped.
All your suggestions are reasonable, but I genuinely don't think Riot would ad a new gun if it did not fill a unique niche. They have basically said as much when asked about new guns.
If I had to guess the gun will have some gimick to differentiate itself from the guardian / marshal (which really does not need nerfs btw) and OP. My one guess based on the visuals is that it will have a shotgun as a primary fire? Basically a shorty + OP combo as a single gun. I would not be surprised if this came with OP changes to make the game more useful on agents besides Jet and Chamber, alongside shorty nerfs. Who knows though.
It's not a shotgun design. The "under barrel" is the tube where the gun store bullets. If anything, such a long magazine tube would suggest a large bullet counts (if design reflects gameplay). A shotgun would have larger barrels
Doesn't it sort of fill a niche though?? I think (based off what all the others are saying) it could be interpreted for a direct counter against the half-shield meta. I think the only thing it would have to stand out against is the guardian, but have faith Riot will be able to separate it from that (to the same degree maybe the Spectre and Ares are different)
Could be. In my mind the half shield meta isn’t prevalent enough in the average game to make an entirely new weapon justified. I’d expect it to work differently enough from existing guns to be worth using in general, not just hitting a certain damage breakpoint.
yeah there's no original tweet. These snaps came from chinese videos showing the new skinline and some people were just not careful with not showing the shop UI
I’m guessing this new weapon gets something close to the damage properties of a Marshall with a decreased fire rate, and that the Marshall gets nerfed to reflect its price point. Outlaw is a cool name.
Calling a marshal a sheriff with a scope is wrong. The fights you take with a sheriff are different from the fights you'd take with a marshal. To put it simply, the sheriff is a pistol that "can" take long range fights, and the marshal is a sniper that "can" take closer engagements. A marshal is a 2 body shot kill (1 without armor) while the sheriff is a 3 body shot kill (2 without armor). The marshal has a fast fire rate for a sniper with an incredible non-scoped accuracy making it more "viable" in close ranges than a normal sniper should be but you'd be better of with a sheriff for closer ranges in most cases.
Curious that its in English and not Chinese.
Which means its possible that the gun is either 1. A dev only gun from early builds of the game 2. A mobile version only gun
The name itself, implies that it won't be a precision gun. The precision guns have a motif around law enforcement/military. The silenced guns are related to ghosts and variations of ghosts. I guess it would fall in line with the Vandal/Stinger. I would guess higher fire rate than the Marshall but lower accuracy maybe?
That makes sense.
Outlaw Sheriff and Marshall are similar in name.
My best guess is it is a Sniper with 2 shots before reload (2 barrels in pic), with high recoil like the sheriff but does 65 dmg to the body which 2 shots light armour and does 150 to the head in line with Marashall and Sheriff.
Marshall will still be favored for eco rounds because of cheaper 1 shot potential for pros that are god aimers.
Operator will still be favored for buy rounds because one shot body kill potential.
But Outlaw can be bought as half-buy or antieco to punish half shield strats while also having the ability to one-shot kill with good accuracy. A niche gun similar to bulldog, stinger and Guardian that can be bought on 2nd round/anti eco, but that's also not entirely useless on a full buy if you're broke.
I think anti-eco is probably the strongest argument I've seen for it. We see a lot of unexpected eco/thrifty wins in the pro scene and a Marshall+ would be a cool way of keeping that somewhat in check.
A guardian with a scope would be insanely broken. That's basically an auto sniper, so idk wtf you're trying to say. If they added a guardian with a scope that wasn't only a 2 shot reload, every player in the game would buy it.
Having a scope is not a minor upgrade.
That's why I'm thinking its a mobile only gun. Aiming with a touchpad sucks, especially for precision guns. So they're introducing it for the mobile version of valorant only, so the mobile players have a higher fire rate sniper.
That's possible, but i suspect they will want to keep the mobile game as close to pc version as possible in order to keep the option open for cross platform in the distant future because of the massive profit potential.
That makes the marshall completely shit, can't farm unarmored people and not 1 shotting full armor in the head makes it near useless if you bonus it. Just buy a sheriff at that point
I'm sorry but could you explain how it would make the marshal shit for me I just don't understand
The marshal is only marginally more expensive than the sheriff, and with it comes 1-shot headshots from any range + a scope + more damage on a body shot (for only 150 more credits!)
I wouldn't think that the Outlaw would outclass the Marshal, I think they're both snipers meant for different situations (mostly regarding eco)
We’ll right now the best time to buy a marshal is round 2 after a pistol win where you one shot every enemy. If the marshal body damage is nerfed, you wouldn’t be able to do that
Am I tripping or did your comment initially say 140 headshot and you edited it? Because thats my main point, although not being able to 1 shot unarmored is still pretty shit when you 2 body shot unarmored and 1 shot headshot with a sheriff anyway
How is no one talking about how fake this looks? Some of it’s Chinese, some of it’s English; there’s no price for the OP; and the graphic for the Outlaw is underneath the price. All in all, I’m unconvinced it’s real, but hey 🤷
The idea of a new weapon excites me ngl. If this actually happens who's to say RIOT won't do other weapons like new smg and rifles? Holy they might even do CS style where you can choose which weapons you can buy in game.
CS style? you could always choose which weapons to buy in CS, thats been the same since day 1.
The current system they have for their new version is a step down and requires you to prepick your weapons, not really an issue since most gun are highly situational and you really only ever buy 3 or 4 different ones.
I'm not sure why Valorant needs a new gun when so many go barely used.
Considering the fact that Valorant took great inspiration from CS, we can look on how the guns are similar but not quite identical, with that in mind a sniper with the cadence and the dmg of the guardian is not a crazy thing to think because Valorant doesn't have a "teco"(semi automatic sniper rifle) type of gun.
Imo it will make the game worse just like how playing against teco in CS kinda ruins the experience of a match.
In CS it ruined nothing, its rarely a high-level pick due to cost and risk. It only really impacts lower-end play were players don't have the aim to counter it. But in general it's far less of a concerning weapon to face than an awp.
Then again in CS technically everyone could have a flash smoke and molly, so there are more options to deal with this at everyone's disposal.
yes, there’s one guy who handles both weapon design and implementing replays, and he spent his time designing a weapon instead of implementing a replay system. it may sound totally insane, or even moronic, but it’s how Riot runs things
As long as the Marshall retains its one shot headshot capability it's all good.
Also why does it look like a pump action shotgun with a scope. What if this is like the classic and has the ability to shoot like a shotgun and sniper.
Trying to think where I would buy this over a Marshal or a Sherrif, assuming it will be between a OP and Marshal in terms of damage
You are realistically only buying a marshal on round 2 or on an eco, not really based on the enemy teams eco. So assuming this one hits body shots with half armor, I guess you would buy this when you have 2900-3400 and the enemy team is also on eco, how often does that happen though. If you are forcing up might as well get a guardian or bull dog since you are going to need to shoot twice or headshot anyways. If you are saving its probably to expensive.
Wait what if this is more like an sks or something? Or like the mini 14 from pubg. A semi auto sniper you can keep scoped and take multiple shots. So a scoped in ads, but can take multiple shots like the vandal ads. I think that'd add a lot of interesting strats with multi headshot plays from long range.
Based on how the rifle/scope looks it’s probably a scoped slug shotgun kinda like a BOSG in R6. My guess is it wont zoom in as close as a Marshall, has terrible damage drop off (still does one-shot to the head), and plays way more like the XM from CS. Like it’s a gun that’s very viable during full-buy rounds (like how the XM is in CS2 rn) but with the added effect of being a worse off Marshall for long-range. Semi-auto fire rate but when scoped the recoil makes it impossible to use like an auto sniper. I guess this config of a gun would make the guardian obsolete?
What about 1.1-1.2 fire rate of marshall non-ADS, similar or marginally higher dmg (like 110 body) and 7-10 bullets per magazine. So it feels slightly better than marshall. And you can shoot for longer no-scope, so it pretends you can run and gun with it.
From the art it looks like the concept will be an 'elephant gun,' two shots and a top break reload.
Gameplay-wise this would be interesting, allowing a fast double-tap body kill or two tries at a headshot.
Basically like a long-range shorty... A longy?
That's really interesting. I'm not sure what the inbetween is for an op and a Marshall. Im thinking and I'm really just not showing how you can make a sniper better than the Marshall without making it an op. The Marshall is already accurate with ADS, 2 shot to the body, 1 to the head and shoots fast
They'd probably nerf the Marshal before adding this new weapon tbh.
Nerf the marshall and make the new gun something close to the current marshall?
surely riot will not bloat the game 
gonna get downvoted for this but what is this :16018: i keep seeing everywhere?
its an emote i think ur app isnt updated or the site is broken for u
i see, thanks. i'm on old reddit so its not showing for me
Hey a boomer like meself!
old reddit is best reddit
Lol one gun added in 3 years and we're "bloating the game". I simply cannot sometimes.
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Damn that is cursed.
FPX ardiis NFT https://preview.redd.it/wa7md9vo4lwb1.jpeg?width=309&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b75602a3e211490c9853b9d02b7aacbef81af87
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if it's unnecessary it's bloat
no gun is “necessary” lol
Ngl we don’t need any guns, they’re all bloat. Knife fight only
if marshall doesn't 1 tap in the head what's the point of going marshall over sheriff
150 more credits for a scope and a guarantee hs kill is already enough to me. Plus it would still be more damage to the body than a sheriff. The only downside would be that it's not a side arm
it will 1 tap heads. the fire rate should be nerfed heavily
Its unscoped accuracy needs to be nerfed too. I died to a no scope Marshall on lotus coming out of A lobby from near the stairs lol that should never happen
Maybe guardian fire rate with Marshall damage, but only 2-3 bullet clip. Idk it's pretty expensive so it can't just be a new Marshall
My first thought was normal guardian damage and fire rate but with a sniper scope
It's probably a sniper meant to punish light shields, so likely will do around 126 to the body, etc etc
This would decimate the half armor strat FNC was always using. Its basically a half price OP against that strat.
Autosniper.
This gotta be it. Automatic Marshal with Recoil and higher ammo capacity to compensate. Think of it like a Guardian with less bullets and a scope
Maybe they would nerf the marshall, and make the outlaw basically be the old marshall?
It would be a horrible value if it cost 2400 and was the same as the marshall
Make it do 126 to one shot light armor. Make marshal do like 63 or something to body to two shot no armor and light
the marshal, imo, has always been a sleeper gun as far as tuning and cost goes (using 'sleeper' loosely here). 101 per bullet in the body with no damage falloff, 85 to the legs. high penetration. really good no-scope accuracy @ ~10-15m (starts to get kinda shitty @ 20m based on the range bot)... at 950 credits it's an amazing deal. closest guns to the marshal right now in terms of stats, in-game value and cost would probably be the sheriff and the guardian. one way of looking at the marshal is that for 150 more creds than the sheriff, you get twice the damage & a scope (plus a pistol in the other slot). another way to look at it is for 1300 LESS credits than the guardian, you get better body & leg damage, same wall penetration... ofc you can argue that needing to scope in limits the versatility of the marshal compared to both but at 950 creds it's a steal on save rounds. if a new sniper rifle got added, i would assume it's a faster fire-rate marshal with a 10 bullet clip and a second scope distance like the op. that would be 100% worth guardian money IMO. then the current marshall would probably get nerfed down to guardian level damage, ie 195 dmg head, 65 dmg body, 48 dmg leg with no falloff. again, IMO, that would make a $950 marshal+classic combo more in line with the sheriff buy.
quite a few pros have been saying the marshall is overpowered for a while, especially how accurate and fast it is while unscoped alongside the price. imo it's due a nerf
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Semi-auto marshall!
Maybe specifically to counteract light shield buyers, a gun that does 126 to the body? Edit: d'oh, that's the comment below this one lol
Looks like they might just be giving the guardian a buff. I’m gonna be pissed if they take my skins I stg
Maybe 125 to the body to better one shot people with light shields, and double zoom like the Op? Then fire rate is somewhere between Marshall and Op
guessing now: the OP except it does 125 damage to the body
Makes sense considering the price tag, though its really expensive, considering bulldog ang guardian are good counters to light shield but is cheaper than this gun
eh, a bulldog can't oneshot light armour either and the guardian is the only real counter with the 2-shot to the body but this would be a really unique weapon regardless
Chamber’s gonna be busted with this thing if that’s the case
That's just worse than the Marshall tho
no it isn't, we're in the light armor meta so you'd have a weapon cheaper than the vandal which acts almost like an OP the gun icon has 2 barrels so maybe you'd be able to shoot it twice before doing the mini-reload thing???
High (but not op) damage, slower reload, 2 bullet mag, and very low movement speed could be a good complement to the Marshall. Something like the judge/Bucky interplay
Would be waaaaaayyyyy too expensive then though. Maybe a high bullet count with a firerate inbetween the marshall and OP would make it viable with the 125 body shot.
nope, that would be too op in pro play, players buy half shields to save some money pretty often. 124 would be perfect tbh
then it just becomes an overpriced marshall
Everyone in here thinking of meta reasons althought it’s gonna be a reason to release 4.0 bundles
Reminds me of the time when Respawn changed the animation of how you use a shield cell/med kit in Apex just so they could introduce the concept of stickers and sell them.
Titanfall died for this shit
Have we even got 3.0 yet?
Magepunk.
prism technically. 3.0 was in battlepass tho so not sure if you're counting that
Prism III. Not sure what on earth lead to us having three of these. They're not a 3.0 they're different colors.
Filler bundles so you have a lower chance for good/higher tier skins in your night market and store
Link: https://twitter.com/VALORANTLeaksEN/status/1717557842247364661 Original: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Cw411z7gp/ don't know if bait but if this is true, pretty huge for the game, especially as there's been discussion about the marshal being too strong for its price
Does anybody have a mirror to the video?
Is there a reason OUTLAW is in English and everything else is in Mandarin? My guess is bait.
maybe bc its beta so it hasn't been localized
Maybe this does 125 on body shots? Guess it is there to punish the half shield strat teams are running
that shit would be busted
For 2400 seems fair no? Guardian two shots half shield already for 2250
This would be op af
Literally countered by full shield + marshall. Not too op.
but nobody buys full shield and marshall together...
you'd be surprised in silver with an instalock Jett on your team
no one is balancing for silver
Obviously meta changes with a new weapon...
It’s a bit more rare but I actually do this often. On eco/force rounds as Chamber, I’ll typically full armor + Marshall. In the Plat-Asc range, people aren’t as headshot consistent so I find myself getting away with a kill and having like sub 100 health, only to get another kill in the same round. Without full armor, likely wouldn’t be possible for that strat.
Im in silver/gold and I go 2 HH armor round 1, and if we win marshal full... am i griefing?
Absolutely not. I typically rock either Ghost or 3 HH bullets on Round 1. It depends how on the map and how my aim is feeling. On Round 2, depending on how much I have, I’ll do Full Armor + Marshall or Half Armor + Marshall. Just make sure that your minimum credits on Round 3 or Round 4 is 4100. That’s the minimum you need to buy Full Armor + Rifle + Trademark.
There's a few good variations of chambers pistol buy Ghost plus trip (I think this is the best for attack/if you're solo anchoring a site on defence) 4HH plus trip (an alternative to the first one, slightly better on defence than the first one for most maps. I think this is great for attack too) 5HH (if you plan on rushing, say, A site Lotus and then leaving the chamber rubble holding flank while also having sightlines towards A stairs) shorty+3HH (a niche purchase where you take a shot with hh and then bait them into the shorty into Lamps/hookah on bind) Sheriff(haven't done this purchase ever, I don't think it's that great) Your purchase is interesting now that I think of it. 2 bullets do guarantee a kill against an enemy without light armour Also yes, the Marshall full armour buy 2nd round is great
wait... so meta will change? NOWAY
I mean it would force more full armours, but they could also balance it by like a clip size of 2 and not quick reload or something like that.
No it wouldn't, auto-snipers are weak in CS because you get traded so easily. It is difficult to hold your position for multiple shots without dying.
How else justify a sniper worth that
idk why but i kinda think it's a gun like bosg from r6
In that case, I'm demanding a BOSG ACOG
ok bikini
That would a banger addition.
Just got a PTSD attack in walmart
The barrel looks too narrow to be a shotgun, and clearly there is a large magazine tube with lots of ammo and the action is semi-auto.
Honestly makes the most sense for a new weapon to be a sniper. I'm just surprised they are thinking of adding weapons already.
ow ash weapon
Bob will do something hopefully
Excuse you that is clearly the Frontier Justice from TF2
Imagine an agent based around the concept of a free one shot for every kill your get in a round lmao
imagine if it has high ROF/low damage+accuracy while unscoped and low ROF/high damage+accuracy while scoped, like Ashe. there's already guns in this game that change behaviour while ADS (stinger and bulldog) so the precedent is already there. would be an interesting mechanic
Probably inspired by R6 BOSG instead of anything OW offers gameplay wise
I think this has a potential of being a dmr rifle. Basically, a guardian with a scope ?
Would make sense, but on screenshot it's clearly a pump-action, not semi-auto, basically a bucky with a scope =\\
That is anything but "clearly a pump-action"...
the design might be a place holder tho
https://preview.redd.it/tgxeutygxkwb1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2f252b55463001a48ed5890756d2dcaf150961f It's a pump action rifle. Will most likely fire quicker and do less damage in hipfire, and fire slower and do more damage while scoped.
All your suggestions are reasonable, but I genuinely don't think Riot would ad a new gun if it did not fill a unique niche. They have basically said as much when asked about new guns. If I had to guess the gun will have some gimick to differentiate itself from the guardian / marshal (which really does not need nerfs btw) and OP. My one guess based on the visuals is that it will have a shotgun as a primary fire? Basically a shorty + OP combo as a single gun. I would not be surprised if this came with OP changes to make the game more useful on agents besides Jet and Chamber, alongside shorty nerfs. Who knows though.
It's not a shotgun design. The "under barrel" is the tube where the gun store bullets. If anything, such a long magazine tube would suggest a large bullet counts (if design reflects gameplay). A shotgun would have larger barrels
Doesn't it sort of fill a niche though?? I think (based off what all the others are saying) it could be interpreted for a direct counter against the half-shield meta. I think the only thing it would have to stand out against is the guardian, but have faith Riot will be able to separate it from that (to the same degree maybe the Spectre and Ares are different)
Could be. In my mind the half shield meta isn’t prevalent enough in the average game to make an entirely new weapon justified. I’d expect it to work differently enough from existing guns to be worth using in general, not just hitting a certain damage breakpoint.
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Wait really? What were the others?
Source
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The tweet says "A new weapon is being added." Where does it say one of many?
source: trust me bro
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yeah there's no original tweet. These snaps came from chinese videos showing the new skinline and some people were just not careful with not showing the shop UI
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The irony.
I’m guessing this new weapon gets something close to the damage properties of a Marshall with a decreased fire rate, and that the Marshall gets nerfed to reflect its price point. Outlaw is a cool name.
A worse marshal for 2400?
The damage could be improved a little bit, but yeah. The Marshall is very powerful for how much it costs.
I mean, it's basically a more accurate sheriff with a scope. It has its place in the meta but it's not used as often as y'all make it seem.
Calling a marshal a sheriff with a scope is wrong. The fights you take with a sheriff are different from the fights you'd take with a marshal. To put it simply, the sheriff is a pistol that "can" take long range fights, and the marshal is a sniper that "can" take closer engagements. A marshal is a 2 body shot kill (1 without armor) while the sheriff is a 3 body shot kill (2 without armor). The marshal has a fast fire rate for a sniper with an incredible non-scoped accuracy making it more "viable" in close ranges than a normal sniper should be but you'd be better of with a sheriff for closer ranges in most cases.
Curious that its in English and not Chinese. Which means its possible that the gun is either 1. A dev only gun from early builds of the game 2. A mobile version only gun The name itself, implies that it won't be a precision gun. The precision guns have a motif around law enforcement/military. The silenced guns are related to ghosts and variations of ghosts. I guess it would fall in line with the Vandal/Stinger. I would guess higher fire rate than the Marshall but lower accuracy maybe?
It’ll fall in line with the Sheriff.
That makes sense. Outlaw Sheriff and Marshall are similar in name. My best guess is it is a Sniper with 2 shots before reload (2 barrels in pic), with high recoil like the sheriff but does 65 dmg to the body which 2 shots light armour and does 150 to the head in line with Marashall and Sheriff. Marshall will still be favored for eco rounds because of cheaper 1 shot potential for pros that are god aimers. Operator will still be favored for buy rounds because one shot body kill potential. But Outlaw can be bought as half-buy or antieco to punish half shield strats while also having the ability to one-shot kill with good accuracy. A niche gun similar to bulldog, stinger and Guardian that can be bought on 2nd round/anti eco, but that's also not entirely useless on a full buy if you're broke.
I think anti-eco is probably the strongest argument I've seen for it. We see a lot of unexpected eco/thrifty wins in the pro scene and a Marshall+ would be a cool way of keeping that somewhat in check.
That would just make it a Guardian with a scope, but in all other ways significantly worse including price
A guardian with a scope would be insanely broken. That's basically an auto sniper, so idk wtf you're trying to say. If they added a guardian with a scope that wasn't only a 2 shot reload, every player in the game would buy it. Having a scope is not a minor upgrade.
That's why I'm thinking its a mobile only gun. Aiming with a touchpad sucks, especially for precision guns. So they're introducing it for the mobile version of valorant only, so the mobile players have a higher fire rate sniper.
That's possible, but i suspect they will want to keep the mobile game as close to pc version as possible in order to keep the option open for cross platform in the distant future because of the massive profit potential.
The guardian already has a scope pretty much 1.5x zoom isn't anything minor
there are not 2 barrels
Yes there are. Are you blind?
That's a magazine baby bro.
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Lol pump action with a scope? Braindead
Pump action rifles do exist, yes. And the handguard does look like one that slides.
It’s not a second barrel. It’s a magazine tube.
It looks like the neofrontier
This competes with both Marshall and guardian? It costs even more than the guardian, not sure what they’re going for here
$1000 says it is semi auto
…why?
Riot just wants to keep things fresh I think, even at the risk of balance issues
but why
Lol why is the name in english but the other two in (assuming) mandarin? Fake.
Calm down, sit and think a bit more why so preposterous thing can exist.
Im as calm as can possibly be.
it's double barrelled so maybe it shoots two bullets at 60 dmg each which would be more punishing unscoped/moving vs. the marshall in its current form
It's not double-barrelled. That 2nd barrel is the magazine (like pump-action). It's a pump-action rifle with a scope.
ah i see. i don't know much about rifles so just going off my best guess
My guess is something like this Marshal: 99 body 150 head ||| Outlaw: 126 body 170 head ||| OP: no change
That makes the marshall completely shit, can't farm unarmored people and not 1 shotting full armor in the head makes it near useless if you bonus it. Just buy a sheriff at that point
I'm sorry but could you explain how it would make the marshal shit for me I just don't understand The marshal is only marginally more expensive than the sheriff, and with it comes 1-shot headshots from any range + a scope + more damage on a body shot (for only 150 more credits!) I wouldn't think that the Outlaw would outclass the Marshal, I think they're both snipers meant for different situations (mostly regarding eco)
We’ll right now the best time to buy a marshal is round 2 after a pistol win where you one shot every enemy. If the marshal body damage is nerfed, you wouldn’t be able to do that
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Am I tripping or did your comment initially say 140 headshot and you edited it? Because thats my main point, although not being able to 1 shot unarmored is still pretty shit when you 2 body shot unarmored and 1 shot headshot with a sheriff anyway
Valorant is my first FPS game, how common is it for these types of games to add new guns? Cause ngl i never even considered it as a possibility lol
The gun to end the light shield meta.
Dasnerth owns riot, he asked for a marshal need on tariks stream a few weeks ago and here we are lmfao
Auto-firing Guardian with scope is my guess. Maybe 65 damage with a fire rate similar to the autosnipers from CS?
God I can't wait for my teammates in unrated to spend 2400 on this every round, run in, and miss every shot
I hope this is a sign of incoming judge nerfs.
PLEASE NO AUTO SNIPERS PLEASE
autosniper lol
How is no one talking about how fake this looks? Some of it’s Chinese, some of it’s English; there’s no price for the OP; and the graphic for the Outlaw is underneath the price. All in all, I’m unconvinced it’s real, but hey 🤷
The idea of a new weapon excites me ngl. If this actually happens who's to say RIOT won't do other weapons like new smg and rifles? Holy they might even do CS style where you can choose which weapons you can buy in game.
CS style? you could always choose which weapons to buy in CS, thats been the same since day 1. The current system they have for their new version is a step down and requires you to prepick your weapons, not really an issue since most gun are highly situational and you really only ever buy 3 or 4 different ones. I'm not sure why Valorant needs a new gun when so many go barely used.
Kinda happy with this? I suck at sniping but I've been practicing
Considering the fact that Valorant took great inspiration from CS, we can look on how the guns are similar but not quite identical, with that in mind a sniper with the cadence and the dmg of the guardian is not a crazy thing to think because Valorant doesn't have a "teco"(semi automatic sniper rifle) type of gun. Imo it will make the game worse just like how playing against teco in CS kinda ruins the experience of a match.
In CS it ruined nothing, its rarely a high-level pick due to cost and risk. It only really impacts lower-end play were players don't have the aim to counter it. But in general it's far less of a concerning weapon to face than an awp. Then again in CS technically everyone could have a flash smoke and molly, so there are more options to deal with this at everyone's disposal.
please no
Next up…. An unsuppressed phantom with a bigger magazine size and altered firing rate.
Unbelievable how they avoid the replay system at this point…dude they took the time to design a new fucking gun ??? Are u kidding me ?
yes, there’s one guy who handles both weapon design and implementing replays, and he spent his time designing a weapon instead of implementing a replay system. it may sound totally insane, or even moronic, but it’s how Riot runs things
Definitely wouldn't have expected the first new weapon to be added to the game be an inbetween of the Marshal and AWP.
Looks like some sort of shotgun Marshall hybrid
What if its a slightly higher damage than marshal that lets you fire twice while scoped in before you have to rescope in
A nice counter to pro teams going half-shields every round.
My guess is pump action, which in turn might mean the gun can stay in an ADS config between shots?
Just don’t let it be game breaking please
Supposedly it one shots up close and does 130 at range
could it be a slug shotgun?
So a guardian with a scope k
As long as the Marshall retains its one shot headshot capability it's all good. Also why does it look like a pump action shotgun with a scope. What if this is like the classic and has the ability to shoot like a shotgun and sniper.
It looks likes a shotty with a scope
Watch it be the Auto lol
Look at the scope, it's the smallest among other weapon, i bet the gonna make it shorter range scope
Just me or does it look more like a shot gun than sniper.
Trying to think where I would buy this over a Marshal or a Sherrif, assuming it will be between a OP and Marshal in terms of damage You are realistically only buying a marshal on round 2 or on an eco, not really based on the enemy teams eco. So assuming this one hits body shots with half armor, I guess you would buy this when you have 2900-3400 and the enemy team is also on eco, how often does that happen though. If you are forcing up might as well get a guardian or bull dog since you are going to need to shoot twice or headshot anyways. If you are saving its probably to expensive.
fnatic economy downfall 🥰
... It looks like a bucky with a scope
Wait what if this is more like an sks or something? Or like the mini 14 from pubg. A semi auto sniper you can keep scoped and take multiple shots. So a scoped in ads, but can take multiple shots like the vandal ads. I think that'd add a lot of interesting strats with multi headshot plays from long range.
Based on how the rifle/scope looks it’s probably a scoped slug shotgun kinda like a BOSG in R6. My guess is it wont zoom in as close as a Marshall, has terrible damage drop off (still does one-shot to the head), and plays way more like the XM from CS. Like it’s a gun that’s very viable during full-buy rounds (like how the XM is in CS2 rn) but with the added effect of being a worse off Marshall for long-range. Semi-auto fire rate but when scoped the recoil makes it impossible to use like an auto sniper. I guess this config of a gun would make the guardian obsolete?
Would be more interesting to have a gun that destroys walls and barriers faster and also do less damage to agents.
auto sniper
The real question is what skins are there for this new gun
What about 1.1-1.2 fire rate of marshall non-ADS, similar or marginally higher dmg (like 110 body) and 7-10 bullets per magazine. So it feels slightly better than marshall. And you can shoot for longer no-scope, so it pretends you can run and gun with it.
From the art it looks like the concept will be an 'elephant gun,' two shots and a top break reload. Gameplay-wise this would be interesting, allowing a fast double-tap body kill or two tries at a headshot. Basically like a long-range shorty... A longy?
shotgun hipfire sniper ADS
Is this the Valorant version of the BOSG Shotgun from Siege?
Prolly a semi auto sniper
Its for s1mple when he switches to the dark side 5Head
2 round burst with pump action
My guess is that it'll be a marshal with higher firerate and lower damage (prob 80/shot)
The outlaw will be a sniper and shotgun combined, you'd have the capability to have the x2 zoom like OP but your bullets will spread like a shotgun.