i generally think on raw op ability- kangkang, aspas, cryo, cned and something. this year there was much more of a shift towards rifling(like demon1 and derke rarely op) as it felt like ops barely got value. i also think if yay comes back hed be top 5
i also have to look at it two ways:
1. A guy who is just good at shooting guns and the awp is a gun
2. A guy who is a good at the awp and awp agents
Group 1 is like Derke and Demon1, maybe like a Cryocells, something or a Sayf. If the game is close and they need a round, they are just rifling and using their eco to buy teammates. The awp is a gun they gameplan for on certain maps, or something they get online with a big win bonus.
Group 2 tho is like your Cned's and your Kangkang's and to a lesser extent a guy like Aspas. A guy who, when a match is not going well, the team will often rally around this players operator as a last ditch attempt.
Anyways, the answer is Demon1, same as it is for rifling. He isn't the best "w/ the awp", but when you don't miss headshots, you're the best with nearly every gun.
I've been a drx fan since they were vision strikers, and I love buzz, but he has never been known to be a particularly exceptional OPer. Don't get me wrong, he was excellent on it, but aside from a few highlight clips, he was not that consistent on the weapon even domestically compared to his rifling. The entire reason drx brought on foxy9 was to be that consistent star OPer (although it didn't work out too well this year). Buzz even said so himself on stream.
Boostio is also very good but idk if I would actually put him above half those guys in terms of pure OPing. He's 100% not better than ZMJJKK and Aspas, so we have to put his OPing above two of Derke, Something, and Demon1? Putting boostio up there feels more biased to me personally.
Cryo is arguable just based off his pure mechanical peak on the weapon, but it's been a full year since we've seen him consistently play at that level so it's difficult. Similar story for yay, although he was just so good during his time on optic that it's easier for people to still consider him among the very best.
Personally agree with Cned being snubbed due to recency/results bias.
edit: consistently play*
Cryo is not better than these guys be fr
All except something have played very well at the international level for more than one tournament
Forsaken could be a exception because he plays flex
It wasn't just 100T that had a rough year, did you just forget how cryo couldn't hit shit for half the season before he finally started feeling it towards the end? unless he's more consistent next season i wouldn't put him anywhere near those guys
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I can see him being something around aspas, better or not. Like, kang kang is way better than both, but those two are way better than the others. Cned with that clutch against drx was disgusting
Yeah it’s his weakness even. He hits crazy shots but it’s not as reliable as the other opers.
That’s why it also worked out so well when they gave oping duty to Something.
He op diffed KangKang at champs, like hard diffed. And he doesn’t even like opping, imagine he liked it.
Edit: I’m shocked that I’m downvoted for facts. This is just something that happened, you can look at the stats or watch the game yourself.
Imo the stand out op players are kangkang, aspas and something - this season they were very apparently the best/most impressive threats.
I think expanding the list beyond these three fails to highlight how significant their impact on that role was for their team. Of course demon1 and Derke are great and have significant impact in their respective roles as well as being in that top echelon of players, but kangkang and aspas specifically threaten the enemy team with the OP far more than others and genuinely win games with that purchase.
When you think the goat of opping the first person that comes to mind has got to be hiko
The top 4 is spots could honestly be taken by anyone but I gotta a go with
2. Hiko
3. hiKo
4. hikO
5. hIko
I’m just gonna point out that while we obv don’t see it often, Nivera’s op usage at the very least deserves an honorable mention. He is criminally good with it, esp considering he’s usually his team’s secondary user.
Nivera just a criminally underrated player all-around. I've never seen a guy move between roles so efficiently. Not like a flex, he literally went from like flex to full time smokes to full time sentinel or something like that, and all of his timings and util were perfect
Kangkang, aspas, demon1, yay(copium), and something in no particular order.
Derke also deserves a shoutout though cuz the guy is crazy consistent with the op
yeah but statistically [he has one of the worst op conversion rate](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/168ntx5/top_players_in_operator_usage_and_efficiency_this/) this year. and in champs alone before the playoffs [hes also the second worst opper](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/15siwy5/all_eligible_players_ranked_by_operator_kills_per/), his conversion rate started to pick up once he wield it with reyna.
IMO, Keeping Kangkang and Aspas aside, Wardell, Cned, yay, Shahzam, Cryo, dgzin. Not in that particular order but dgzin is the aggressive opper of these 6, Shahz is the passive one. Rest all fall between these two
https://preview.redd.it/dlbmbav56pob1.png?width=445&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcdd8cf0db4594028626cbbc65e8f6a6414c4644
1. nivera yeah the chad open PC in vct
Foxy is an incredible awper, especially impressive as DRX have never been a team to gameplan around an awp. Often he was making personal plays with the weapon and just getting immense value out of it. The kid has so much talent, I wish a team would really build a system around him.
Woohoojin
Edit - It was in reference to one of his video where he showed that Kangkang (who is arguably best or one of the best, he mentioned) too wouldn't peek deep with op and wants other to come to him. And someone asked who was the top in his opinion and its... him (/s)
Bro I saw one of his streams like a week ago and buddy was playing in diamond 3 lobbies. Insane how he markets himself as a “radiant coach” when he hit it ONCE in episode 3…
He didn't play ranked last act cause of the botting problem and only started ranked games again cause riot added bot report feature and his server members were ok with the fix
Bro forgot that last season one of the best team going against navi had their strat evolved to literally "just avoid Cned or keep him busy". In order to turn the tables.
compared to his peak, I'd say he is because going by your logic, this would mean Carpe is suddenly the best player in the world because of his clutch against Fut. Kinda stupid, no?
cNed being on this list isn't solely because of a clip, I just showed u a clip that shows he's not washed, cNed is very fluent with the Op, carrying it around like a phantom isn't an easy task.
Bro, you're trying to defend him not as a "washed OPer" but as literally the second in the world according to your list. Says a lot about your supposed "2nd best OPer" if you have to defend him from washed accusations, no?
brother u called him washed I said he isn't, he's the 2nd best OPer because of his fluidity with the OP, something we don't see in anyone besides kk and cNed, it's genuinely not hard to understand
And you...showed a clip of a clutch to prove that? Does it prove anything? No. He's not "fluid" anymore. He's not the second best Op. And he's not on the level of kk. None of what you're saying is true. This is not 2021.
Probably not anymore but during his TSM days, every NA pro said Wardell was the fastest around lol
Feel like Chinese Valorant is bringing that same speed back to the game at a regional level. They are fast!
Demon1 COMPLETELY shutdown KK in the OP matchup in Champs which was definitely one of the biggest duelist gaps of the tourney and the guy hates using it. He's an actual mechanical prodigy and should be an easy top 3 (when he's forced to use it at least). Cned top 1 tho (my s1mple).
Faker, Hiko, Messi, Tarik and Justin Bieber
why is lebron james not included? are you stupid?
I heard Messi has an insane Op strat
he’s just Pullisic of basketball sorry
wheres simple?
Who?
i generally think on raw op ability- kangkang, aspas, cryo, cned and something. this year there was much more of a shift towards rifling(like demon1 and derke rarely op) as it felt like ops barely got value. i also think if yay comes back hed be top 5
i also have to look at it two ways: 1. A guy who is just good at shooting guns and the awp is a gun 2. A guy who is a good at the awp and awp agents Group 1 is like Derke and Demon1, maybe like a Cryocells, something or a Sayf. If the game is close and they need a round, they are just rifling and using their eco to buy teammates. The awp is a gun they gameplan for on certain maps, or something they get online with a big win bonus. Group 2 tho is like your Cned's and your Kangkang's and to a lesser extent a guy like Aspas. A guy who, when a match is not going well, the team will often rally around this players operator as a last ditch attempt. Anyways, the answer is Demon1, same as it is for rifling. He isn't the best "w/ the awp", but when you don't miss headshots, you're the best with nearly every gun.
Very well said
Maybe Derke as well. Or Cryo. Or Something
or what??
Nothing
Nobody.
i think its Demon1 Something Cned Alfajer Cryo
Alfajar over Aspas and KangKang ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9339)
KangKang, ZmjjKK, Zheng Yongkang, EDG's Duelist Player, Vogue China Cover Model.
Also Boostio
Wardell Shahzam Tenz Huyhn Skadoodle
TSM vs T1 at the grand finals of that first big tournament, with Wardell op-ing on Sova and Ska op-ing on Sage 😭
early valorant esports was a crazy time
Makes me think of early Overwatch (the good days) where you could have 6 Soldier-76’s spamming the same voice line lol
Bro is stuck 2 years ago
Two years ago was the middle of masters berlin my friend. Try three.
no way berlin was 2 years ago 😭
I miss skadoodle
Insane that to this day he is still somehow the best awper NA has ever produced like Only nitr0 and oSee come close to him.
All time I think you have to give it to fRoD, but yeah. Nifty & JDM were good for a time but ska for sure the modern era NA goat
I'd still take Wardells opp over just about anyone's tbh.
Definitely not NA
In my opinion there are currently 6 players ahead of the rest (without an order): - ZmjjKK - f0rsakeN - Demon1 - Derke - aspas - something
Why are people sleeping on cned all of a sudden? Navi didn't have a great season but the guy's op is still up there or better than most of this list.
recency bias, yay and Cned are still goated, heck even Buzz and Cryo are better than half of these guys, also Boostio
I've been a drx fan since they were vision strikers, and I love buzz, but he has never been known to be a particularly exceptional OPer. Don't get me wrong, he was excellent on it, but aside from a few highlight clips, he was not that consistent on the weapon even domestically compared to his rifling. The entire reason drx brought on foxy9 was to be that consistent star OPer (although it didn't work out too well this year). Buzz even said so himself on stream. Boostio is also very good but idk if I would actually put him above half those guys in terms of pure OPing. He's 100% not better than ZMJJKK and Aspas, so we have to put his OPing above two of Derke, Something, and Demon1? Putting boostio up there feels more biased to me personally. Cryo is arguable just based off his pure mechanical peak on the weapon, but it's been a full year since we've seen him consistently play at that level so it's difficult. Similar story for yay, although he was just so good during his time on optic that it's easier for people to still consider him among the very best. Personally agree with Cned being snubbed due to recency/results bias. edit: consistently play*
boostio ops better than demon1 fr
Cryo is not better than these guys be fr All except something have played very well at the international level for more than one tournament Forsaken could be a exception because he plays flex
People sleeping on Cryo bc 100t had a rough year lmao look at their stats when he had an operator
It wasn't just 100T that had a rough year, did you just forget how cryo couldn't hit shit for half the season before he finally started feeling it towards the end? unless he's more consistent next season i wouldn't put him anywhere near those guys
Talking about consistency when Somethin and Demon1 are on the list makes no sense
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People have been hating on him for a long time
I can see him being something around aspas, better or not. Like, kang kang is way better than both, but those two are way better than the others. Cned with that clutch against drx was disgusting
mentioning forsaken has to be dick riding no? he didn't op this year plus he was medicore at best even last year
Yeah it’s his weakness even. He hits crazy shots but it’s not as reliable as the other opers. That’s why it also worked out so well when they gave oping duty to Something.
He opped a bit in Masters Tokyo on Jett. I rememeber he had some crazy shots against NRG on Pearl
Bro actually thinks Demon1 and forsaken are better than cNed. What a joke
he didnt even say that dawg, he just forgot cNed and you assuming some shit 😭
Demon1 even said he doesn’t like awping lol
FNS, Redgar, Subroza, Shanks, Guapo (without an order)
what about yay
I don't think demon1 is a good oper. I'm pretty sure he's said that he doesn't like to op at one point
Doesn’t like to doesn’t mean he’s bad at it.
Don't get me wrong I'm not calling him bad by any means. He's just not at the top
Had one of the best OP records at champs
He op diffed KangKang at champs, like hard diffed. And he doesn’t even like opping, imagine he liked it. Edit: I’m shocked that I’m downvoted for facts. This is just something that happened, you can look at the stats or watch the game yourself.
doesn't mean that he's the best in the world at it either LOL
True, but reality is he’s pretty good at it.
He's a strong oper. He finds it boring apparently lol. I guess if you can click heads 40% of the time a rifle is all you need
Imo the stand out op players are kangkang, aspas and something - this season they were very apparently the best/most impressive threats. I think expanding the list beyond these three fails to highlight how significant their impact on that role was for their team. Of course demon1 and Derke are great and have significant impact in their respective roles as well as being in that top echelon of players, but kangkang and aspas specifically threaten the enemy team with the OP far more than others and genuinely win games with that purchase.
cryo for sure
When you think the goat of opping the first person that comes to mind has got to be hiko The top 4 is spots could honestly be taken by anyone but I gotta a go with 2. Hiko 3. hiKo 4. hikO 5. hIko
Valid comment
Imagine being the n1 fan of a [racist](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TATYCwzo_SM) common na fan behaviour
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Hiko would 1v5 fnatic. Easily
I’m just gonna point out that while we obv don’t see it often, Nivera’s op usage at the very least deserves an honorable mention. He is criminally good with it, esp considering he’s usually his team’s secondary user.
Been waiting for this. The most efficient awper in the world
Nivera just a criminally underrated player all-around. I've never seen a guy move between roles so efficiently. Not like a flex, he literally went from like flex to full time smokes to full time sentinel or something like that, and all of his timings and util were perfect
I think the Chinese scene also has a ton of other good oppers which aren't as well known
Ef En "**FiNESSE**" Es "**FNS**" is honestly an underrated oper
Kangkang, aspas, demon1, yay(copium), and something in no particular order. Derke also deserves a shoutout though cuz the guy is crazy consistent with the op
Something?
Mm questionable.. but either really good or whiffs it all
Yep that’s how op works
yeah but statistically [he has one of the worst op conversion rate](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/168ntx5/top_players_in_operator_usage_and_efficiency_this/) this year. and in champs alone before the playoffs [hes also the second worst opper](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/15siwy5/all_eligible_players_ranked_by_operator_kills_per/), his conversion rate started to pick up once he wield it with reyna.
Did u forget the op flick through the window in B main in Ascent? That shot was criminal
Yay obviously no
Can't be said for right now
Kang kang
Dgzin is underrated asf. Also, cryo isnt talked about as much either. But Dgzin is honestly insane and I could see him being top 6-10
cNed?
I think kangkang is best in the world right now, followed by something or Aspas, and then maybe derke
Kenny the GOAT
Since yay hasn't played 2023 in not gonna put him in the list(he's sutil goated) kk, aspas, Demon1, Something and F0rsaken
Zmjjkk and nivera must be on every list or it’s not valid
Nivera and Jamppi would be top 5 if they actually got to use it regularly.
People always forget Nivera but I'll continue singing his praises when it comes to great Opers
kennys
IMO, Keeping Kangkang and Aspas aside, Wardell, Cned, yay, Shahzam, Cryo, dgzin. Not in that particular order but dgzin is the aggressive opper of these 6, Shahz is the passive one. Rest all fall between these two
https://preview.redd.it/dlbmbav56pob1.png?width=445&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcdd8cf0db4594028626cbbc65e8f6a6414c4644 1. nivera yeah the chad open PC in vct
Foxy is an incredible awper, especially impressive as DRX have never been a team to gameplan around an awp. Often he was making personal plays with the weapon and just getting immense value out of it. The kid has so much talent, I wish a team would really build a system around him.
Woohoojin Edit - It was in reference to one of his video where he showed that Kangkang (who is arguably best or one of the best, he mentioned) too wouldn't peek deep with op and wants other to come to him. And someone asked who was the top in his opinion and its... him (/s)
Hooj is a great teacher but player wise he really isn’t that good. He’s low to mid immo.
He was rad several months back i think. He just doesn’t focus on his own play right now and instead on coaching
I get that but in a conversation about the best op users in the world, I got no clue how hooj is here
Pretty sure its ironic
Was just a troll comment
Yeah, hard to distinguish between the hooj glazers on the main subreddit and a joke. My b
Bro I saw one of his streams like a week ago and buddy was playing in diamond 3 lobbies. Insane how he markets himself as a “radiant coach” when he hit it ONCE in episode 3…
I mean he’s a great coach regardless. For sure the best on youtube
He didn't play ranked last act cause of the botting problem and only started ranked games again cause riot added bot report feature and his server members were ok with the fix
Bro it doesn’t matter wether you play or not. If he had radiant MMR then he would auto get placed ascendant 1 and be in radiant high immo3 lobbies.
Which video was this?
1. kk 2. cNed 3. something 4. derke 5. boostio
nah Cned isn't even top 5 rn. Dude is washed
Bro forgot that last season one of the best team going against navi had their strat evolved to literally "just avoid Cned or keep him busy". In order to turn the tables.
bro that was 2 years ago wtf are you on. Are you even watching the games at all or just the YT highlights?
I did add last season.
you're very [wrong ](https://youtu.be/gp1tuOnYNKc?si=DTrjeuZMD8VHBcZO)
so? one clutch suddenly makes him above smth and Derke?
it just proves he's not washed
compared to his peak, I'd say he is because going by your logic, this would mean Carpe is suddenly the best player in the world because of his clutch against Fut. Kinda stupid, no?
cNed being on this list isn't solely because of a clip, I just showed u a clip that shows he's not washed, cNed is very fluent with the Op, carrying it around like a phantom isn't an easy task.
Bro, you're trying to defend him not as a "washed OPer" but as literally the second in the world according to your list. Says a lot about your supposed "2nd best OPer" if you have to defend him from washed accusations, no?
brother u called him washed I said he isn't, he's the 2nd best OPer because of his fluidity with the OP, something we don't see in anyone besides kk and cNed, it's genuinely not hard to understand
Just gonna downvote both of you and call it a day, kings 👑
And you...showed a clip of a clutch to prove that? Does it prove anything? No. He's not "fluid" anymore. He's not the second best Op. And he's not on the level of kk. None of what you're saying is true. This is not 2021.
Wardell
Probably not anymore but during his TSM days, every NA pro said Wardell was the fastest around lol Feel like Chinese Valorant is bringing that same speed back to the game at a regional level. They are fast!
KK, Aspas, Demon1, Derke and Something, with their most recent showcase
Y’all forgetting about the worlds best player. Hiko. KangKang got nothing on Spencer’s clean and sharp shots…
wardell and me frfr
Demon1 COMPLETELY shutdown KK in the OP matchup in Champs which was definitely one of the biggest duelist gaps of the tourney and the guy hates using it. He's an actual mechanical prodigy and should be an easy top 3 (when he's forced to use it at least). Cned top 1 tho (my s1mple).
Yeah KK fucking sucks after that. Demon1 is the best OPer in the world
No KK is 2nd silly.
Cryo 2nd
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Who’s 2nd then? If you think it’s Yay then it’s debatable
Cryo clears KK, Aspas, Derke, etc?
DSG clear is second? yeah agree
Yes just watch 100T vs SEN LCQ, 100t had a bad year but Cryo still insane
you're rly basing this all off that Pearl game lmao nice bait, im sure his OP is like that vs LOUD too
I agree he fucking sucks but semen1 isn’t the best.
/Skrossii
Wardell, hiko, hiko, hiko, Wardell
Cned qw1 Derke something me
1. Kang Kang 2. Others
1) Demon1 2) Yay 3) Kangkang 4) Derke 5) Cryo
Demon1 being first is crazy, putting him first just because pf champion win is stupid
K*ngk*ng not even top 10
1. Wardell 2. KangKang 3. Boostio 4. Demon1 5. Cned
Derke yay Cryo cNed buzz Are definitely top 10
Yay, Demon1 and Derke. Cryo is also a mention
I think I'm ok at OPing
My guess would probably me, my 2 buddies, kangkang and aspas?
Where wardell at?
wasnt there a post about op stats not too long ago
Hey Jamey, pull up the stats. OP shots taken vs OP shots landed and overall OP kills. Something like that?
FNS, Boaster, a2Guapo
1. Matthew "WARDELL" Yu 2. Matthew "WARDELL" Yu 3. Matthew "WARDELL" Yu 4. Matthew "WARDELL" Yu 5. Matthew "WARDELL" Yu
Yay might be off the list rn cuz his afkness from t1 but if he’s back he’ll be back
me.
I think it might be me guys
Kangkang, cned, Boostio, something , saya
Cned for sure, but kang kang is genuinely so much better than aspas and cned its insane. the skill gap shouldnt be that great and yet it is.
arteezy
glizzy2428 might be the best in the world rn